Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of
Radio 2 for many!
Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of
Radio 2 for many!
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:15:07 +0000, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 17/01/2023 11:58, MB wrote:
Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of
Radio 2 for many!
Got to make room for the ones retiring from Radio 1. So it is, always
has been, and always will be.
I don't think Ken Bruce was ever on Radio 1 actually.
On 17/01/2023 11:58, MB wrote:
Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of
Radio 2 for many!
Got to make room for the ones retiring from Radio 1. So it is, always
has been, and always will be.
On 17/01/2023 12:29, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:15:07 +0000, John WilliamsonHe snuck in via Radio Scotland, but you know what I mean...
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 17/01/2023 11:58, MB wrote:
Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of >>>> Radio 2 for many!
Got to make room for the ones retiring from Radio 1. So it is, always
has been, and always will be.
I don't think Ken Bruce was ever on Radio 1 actually.
They said the same about Radio 2 when Terry Wogan left.
They said the same about Radio 2 when Terry Wogan left.
Seems to be confirmed that he is following the money and going to a >commercial station with limited coverage.
Limited coverage that is increasing all the time: https://radiotoday.co.uk/2023/01/12/bauer-to-rebrand-seven-heritage-scottish-stations-to-greatest-hits-radio/
On 17/01/2023 13:06, Scott wrote:
Limited coverage that is increasing all the time:
https://radiotoday.co.uk/2023/01/12/bauer-to-rebrand-seven-heritage-scottish-stations-to-greatest-hits-radio/
Still very limited when compared with the BBC even BBC DAB.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:26:19 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 17/01/2023 13:06, Scott wrote:I would't say 'very limited'. It's quite a long list especially
Limited coverage that is increasing all the time:
https://radiotoday.co.uk/2023/01/12/bauer-to-rebrand-seven-heritage-scottish-stations-to-greatest-hits-radio/
Still very limited when compared with the BBC even BBC DAB.
taking account of populatoin distribution:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:26:19 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 17/01/2023 13:06, Scott wrote:I would't say 'very limited'.
Limited coverage that is increasing all the time:Still very limited when compared with the BBC even BBC DAB.
https://radiotoday.co.uk/2023/01/12/bauer-to-rebrand-seven-heritage-scottish-stations-to-greatest-hits-radio/
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 14:14:19 +0000, ScottFunnily enough
<newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:26:19 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:Sorry - should read 'population' and have quoted source: https://jack-bromby.com/greatest-hits-radio-frequencies/
On 17/01/2023 13:06, Scott wrote:I would't say 'very limited'. It's quite a long list especially
Limited coverage that is increasing all the time:Still very limited when compared with the BBC even BBC DAB.
https://radiotoday.co.uk/2023/01/12/bauer-to-rebrand-seven-heritage-scottish-stations-to-greatest-hits-radio/
taking account of populatoin distribution:
Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of
Radio 2 for many!
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 11:58:56 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of >>Radio 2 for many!
I think many will feel that way. Radio 2 is losing its distinctive character.
Do you think they could follow Gold and get rid of the presenters
entirely? Or maybe they should merge with Radio 5 Live?
Is there any indication whether he was 'encouraged' to retire?
On 17/01/2023 11:58, MB wrote:
Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of
Radio 2 for many!
Got to make room for the ones retiring from Radio 1. So it is, always has been, and always will be.
--
Tciao for Now!
John.
On 17/01/2023 11:58, MB wrote:
Ken Bruce just announced he is retiring in March so that is the end of
Radio 2 for many!
Got to make room for the ones retiring from Radio 1. So it is, always
has been, and always will be.
There is nobody outstanding on Radio 1 or 1 xtra to get on R2.
You can broadcast from anywhere these days, so why not have somebody say, on the south coast doing it from a spare local radio studio.
Brian
Well they got rid of Keith Skews by encouraging him to retire on localNo they didn't. Keith Skues left Radio 1 in 1974 to start up and be the
radio. He was very old though.
Yes he is getting on. Where are all the normal sounding but witty people. There are quite a few still on local radio, but its debatable whether the
bbc will want to test them and whether they would want to do a daily show in London.
Well they got rid of Keith Skews by encouraging him to retire on local
radio. He was very old though.
I personally feel that the music is the problem and it needs to have a wider playlist, going back further and doing away with stuff since about 1990, and let 6 play that.
I would't say 'very limited'. It's quite a long list especially
taking account of populatoin distribution:
I just wish they could give Jeremy Whine a voice transplant, as he is quit funny and witty, but its that whiney voice that jars.
On 17/01/2023 14:14, Scott wrote:
I would't say 'very limited'. It's quite a long list especially
taking account of populatoin distribution:
I can easily drive a hundred miles without any non-BBC DAB and I could >probably drive a couple of hundred miles without any.
On 17/01/2023 16:29, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes he is getting on. Where are all the normal sounding but witty people. >> There are quite a few still on local radio, but its debatable whether theIf they already work for the BBC in, say Birmingham, Manchester or
bbc will want to test them and whether they would want to do a daily show in >> London.
anywhere with a BBC local station, they can work locally, and the feed >switched as required. If pushed, I could even do a broadcast quality
feed from my boat, given a 4G base station or two within range.
The only reason presenters go into the studio now is to have personal >interaction with the rest of the staff. If you listen to some of the
shows on Radio Stoke, the producer is on air almost as much a the main >presenter, and they are obviously sitting across a desk from each other.
There is nobody outstanding on Radio 1 or 1 xtra to get on R2.
You can broadcast from anywhere these days, so why not have somebody say, on >the south coast doing it from a spare local radio studio.
Did that apply to John Acres, who has now moved to Radio Devon? I
find him uninspiring - certainly no comparison with his predecessor
(the legendary Gordon Sparks).
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:11:47 +0000, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 17/01/2023 16:29, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes he is getting on. Where are all the normal sounding but witty people. >>> There are quite a few still on local radio, but its debatable whether the >>> bbc will want to test them and whether they would want to do a daily show inIf they already work for the BBC in, say Birmingham, Manchester or
London.
anywhere with a BBC local station, they can work locally, and the feed
switched as required. If pushed, I could even do a broadcast quality
feed from my boat, given a 4G base station or two within range.
The only reason presenters go into the studio now is to have personal
interaction with the rest of the staff. If you listen to some of the
shows on Radio Stoke, the producer is on air almost as much a the main
presenter, and they are obviously sitting across a desk from each other.
Could they not still have been in different studios?
On 17/01/2023 16:29, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes he is getting on. Where are all the normal sounding but witty people. >> There are quite a few still on local radio, but its debatable whether theIf they already work for the BBC in, say Birmingham, Manchester or
bbc will want to test them and whether they would want to do a daily show in >> London.
anywhere with a BBC local station, they can work locally, and the feed >switched as required. If pushed, I could even do a broadcast quality
feed from my boat, given a 4G base station or two within range.
The only reason presenters go into the studio now is to have personal >interaction with the rest of the staff. If you listen to some of the
shows on Radio Stoke, the producer is on air almost as much a the main >presenter, and they are obviously sitting across a desk from each other.
On 19/01/2023 16:33, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:11:47 +0000, John WilliamsonPossibly, but if so, they were working hard to make it feel as if they
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 17/01/2023 16:29, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes he is getting on. Where are all the normal sounding but witty people. >>>> There are quite a few still on local radio, but its debatable whether the >>>> bbc will want to test them and whether they would want to do a daily show inIf they already work for the BBC in, say Birmingham, Manchester or
London.
anywhere with a BBC local station, they can work locally, and the feed
switched as required. If pushed, I could even do a broadcast quality
feed from my boat, given a 4G base station or two within range.
The only reason presenters go into the studio now is to have personal
interaction with the rest of the staff. If you listen to some of the
shows on Radio Stoke, the producer is on air almost as much a the main
presenter, and they are obviously sitting across a desk from each other.
Could they not still have been in different studios?
were in the same room. Why go to the bother of using different rooms,
when you could just add a microphone?
There is a live video feed on the website, but I never bothered checking
it. It's an old link, but this shows how it was probably done.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46896000/jpg/_46896441_studio1.jpg
On 19/01/2023 17:51, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:45:39 +0000, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 19/01/2023 16:33, Scott wrote:
Could they not still have been in different studios?Possibly, but if so, they were working hard to make it feel as if they
were in the same room. Why go to the bother of using different rooms,
when you could just add a microphone?
I meant one could be in Devon and one in Stoke, but this was before I
knew about the video evidence.
They had been using the same style for a long time before he moved home,
and during the handover period to the new presenter, his eventual
replacement used the same style.
I might have a listen in the morning to see how things are going on there.
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:45:39 +0000, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 19/01/2023 16:33, Scott wrote:
Could they not still have been in different studios?Possibly, but if so, they were working hard to make it feel as if they
were in the same room. Why go to the bother of using different rooms,
when you could just add a microphone?
I meant one could be in Devon and one in Stoke, but this was before I
knew about the video evidence.
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:18:22 +0000, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
They had been using the same style for a long time before he moved home,
and during the handover period to the new presenter, his eventual
replacement used the same style.
I still don't see why this could not be achieved from two different
studios, unless there is some Ofcom rule about misleading listeners.
I might have a listen in the morning to see how things are going on there.
To Radio Devon?
Hmm... Interesting, BBC Radio Stoke and BBC West Midlands are playing
the same songs in sync with different presenters.
Voice-tracking?
On 19/01/2023 18:43, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:18:22 +0000, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
They had been using the same style for a long time before he moved home, >>> and during the handover period to the new presenter, his eventual
replacement used the same style.
I still don't see why this could not be achieved from two different
studios, unless there is some Ofcom rule about misleading listeners.
Technically, I could present from the boat I live on using my existing
pair of 4G routers. Why they did it the way they did, I have no idea
unless there is a policy to keep all the warm bodies within reach of
each other.
To Radio Stoke. Check whether they changed the show format after heTo Radio Devon?
I might have a listen in the morning to see how things are going on there. >>
left. I can only get Radio Devon on line here, but Radio Stoke is on >Freeview.
Hmm... Interesting, BBC Radio Stoke and BBC West Midlands are playing
the same songs in sync with different presenters.
Any possibility it was the same presenter, presenting two different
shows? That's what they do with Clyde 2 / Forth 2 etc. The presenter
can record specific links for the individual stations.
On 19/01/2023 22:20, Scott wrote:
Any possibility it was the same presenter, presenting two differentOne male, one female. One also ran a phone-in competition in the opt out.
shows? That's what they do with Clyde 2 / Forth 2 etc. The presenter
can record specific links for the individual stations.
On 19/01/2023 21:39, Scott wrote:
They had what sounded like an opt out for a while, then got back inHmm... Interesting, BBC Radio Stoke and BBC West Midlands are playing
the same songs in sync with different presenters.
Voice-tracking?
sync. The announcers were talking over the music at different times, and
the opt out was completely different.
I'd not swear the music was frame identical, but certainly close enough
to sound in tempo when switching between the two on Freeview. I'd guess
a central playlist server and a local override.
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:23:49 +0000, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 19/01/2023 22:20, Scott wrote:
Any possibility it was the same presenter, presenting two differentOne male, one female. One also ran a phone-in competition in the opt out.
shows? That's what they do with Clyde 2 / Forth 2 etc. The presenter
can record specific links for the individual stations.
Could the royalties be cheaper if you play one track to 10 stations
rather than 10 tracks to one station each?
On 19/01/2023 22:40, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:23:49 +0000, John WilliamsonPossibly, but it makes the paperwork easier. Just copy and paste the >playlist.
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 19/01/2023 22:20, Scott wrote:Could the royalties be cheaper if you play one track to 10 stations
Any possibility it was the same presenter, presenting two differentOne male, one female. One also ran a phone-in competition in the opt out. >>
shows? That's what they do with Clyde 2 / Forth 2 etc. The presenter >>>> can record specific links for the individual stations.
rather than 10 tracks to one station each?
Hmm... Interesting, BBC Radio Stoke and BBC West Midlands are playing
the same songs in sync with different presenters.
On 19/01/2023 19:07, John Williamson wrote:
All BBC local radio stations are using the same centrally compiled
Hmm... Interesting, BBC Radio Stoke and BBC West Midlands are playing
the same songs in sync with different presenters.
playlist, so you will hear the same track on different stations at the
same time.
All the stations are 'virtualised', ViLOR and all that, but that's got nothing per se to do with hearing the same track at the same time (yet !)
https://www.ibc.org/trends/bbc-completes-groundbreaking-vilor-local-radio-project/3865.article
On 19/01/2023 19:07, John Williamson wrote:
All BBC local radio stations are using the same centrally compiled
Hmm... Interesting, BBC Radio Stoke and BBC West Midlands are playing
the same songs in sync with different presenters.
playlist, so you will hear the same track on different stations at the
same time.
All the stations are 'virtualised', ViLOR and all that, but that's got >nothing per se to do with hearing the same track at the same time (yet !)
https://www.ibc.org/trends/bbc-completes-groundbreaking-vilor-local-radio-project/3865.article
Hmm... Interesting, BBC Radio Stoke and BBC West Midlands are playing
the same songs in sync with different presenters.
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