https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64174141
[quote]
The government has confirmed it will not go ahead with a controversial
plan to privatise Channel 4.
Former Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries had said government ownership
was "holding Channel 4 back".
But her successor Michelle Donelan has now said the broadcaster "should
not be sold", instead proposing other reforms because "change is
necessary".
Channel 4 welcomed the news, saying the decision "allows us to be even
more of a power in the digital world".
[/quote]
On 05/01/2023 13:09, John Williamson wrote:
Channel 4 welcomed the news, saying the decision "allows us to be even
more of a power in the digital world".
[/quote]
Bear in mind they dropped their "killer programme" years ago. Countdown
has never been the same since Richard Whiteley and Carol Vorderman left.
I don't think Richard had any other choice but to leave the show !
Bear in mind they dropped their "killer programme" years ago. Countdown
has never been the same since Richard Whiteley and Carol Vorderman
left.
Channel 4 welcomed the news, saying the decision "allows us to be even
more of a power in the digital world".
[/quote]
Bear in mind they dropped their "killer programme" years ago.
Countdown has never been the same since Richard Whiteley and Carol
Vorderman left.
On 05/01/2023 13:09, John Williamson wrote:
Channel 4 welcomed the news, saying the decision "allows us to be even
more of a power in the digital world".
[/quote]
Bear in mind they dropped their "killer programme" years ago.
Countdown has never been the same since Richard Whiteley and Carol
Vorderman left.
I don't think Richard had any other choice but to leave the show !
Because what the country really, really, needs is yet another "race to
the bottom" TV channel to help scrape the bottom of the programme barrel really clean. :-/
The broadcaster will continue its descent into irrelevance.
"John Williamson" <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:k1o0h8FboqsU1@mid.individual.net...
Because what the country really, really, needs is yet another "race to
the bottom" TV channel to help scrape the bottom of the programme barrel
really clean. :-/
If someone said to ne "race to the bottom TV channel" the first that
came to mind would be Channel 4 - a mixture of formulaic banal daytime
drivel and, in so-called primetime, lots of lewd filth justified by some
WOKE ideological box-ticking exercise.
Cancellation of the privatisation plans mean that the nepotism will
continue I suspect - people who are only in management positions because
of the people they know, awarding lucrative programme-making contracts
to their own chums.
The broadcaster will continue its descent into irrelevance.
In my opinion.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64174141
[quote]
The government has confirmed it will not go ahead with a controversial
plan to privatise Channel 4.
Former Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries had said government ownership was "holding Channel 4 back".
But her successor Michelle Donelan has now said the broadcaster "should
not be sold", instead proposing other reforms because "change is
necessary".
Channel 4 welcomed the news, saying the decision "allows us to be even
more of a power in the digital world".
[/quote]
If someone said to ne "race to the bottom TV channel" the first that
came to mind would be Channel 4 - a mixture of formulaic banal daytime
drivel and, in so-called primetime, lots of lewd filth justified by some
WOKE ideological box-ticking exercise.
Combination of too much soft porn
Where do you find porn on C4 these days?
It was known for the 'foreign films' that it broadcast when it started
but it's been a long time since they broadcast any of them.
They have quite a good selection of foreign TV dramas with subtitles
on their streaming service. BBC4 has showed how popular this can be.
Combination of too much soft porn
Where do you find porn on C4 these days?
It was known for the 'foreign films' that it broadcast when it started but it's
been a long time since they broadcast any of them.
"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:fjufrhp9esjkj4e7lk4suidah8nkblr4pf@4ax.com...
They have quite a good selection of foreign TV dramas with subtitles
on their streaming service. BBC4 has showed how popular this can be.
It doesn't need to be State-owned to deliver foreign TV with
subtitles.
"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:fjufrhp9esjkj4e7lk4suidah8nkblr4pf@4ax.com...
They have quite a good selection of foreign TV dramas with subtitles
on their streaming service. BBC4 has showed how popular this can be.
It doesn't need to be State-owned to deliver foreign TV with
subtitles.
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 23:00:30 -0000, "Alexander" <none@nowhere.fr>
wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fjufrhp9esjkj4e7lk4suidah8nkblr4pf@4ax.com...
They have quite a good selection of foreign TV dramas with subtitles
on their streaming service. BBC4 has showed how popular this can be.
It doesn't need to be State-owned to deliver foreign TV with
subtitles.
Indeed. The "World Drama" section on All4 is a handy collection of
them in one place, but this could be done by any streaming channel.
Alexander <none@nowhere.fr> wrote:
It doesn't need to be State-owned to deliver foreign TV with
subtitles.
Doesn’t need to be, but the commercial streamers, with one or two minor exceptions, are doing a very poor job of delivering much that is not US/mid-Atlantic centric. Even when they do, they don’t seem to be able to do a very good job with the sub titles. In general, the PSBs put up
decently large lettering, with the outlines properly edged. The streamers seem to prefer a much smaller size.
Ch4 has put some effort into curating a collection of decent foreign
series, under the Walter Presents genere. I haven’t seen any other service doing this. BBC4 are also well known for presenting foreign series.
"Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message news:tpdvgi$3q5uk$1@dont-email.me...
Alexander <none@nowhere.fr> wrote:
It doesn't need to be State-owned to deliver foreign TV with
subtitles.
Doesn’t need to be, but the commercial streamers, with one or two minor
exceptions, are doing a very poor job of delivering much that is not
US/mid-Atlantic centric. Even when they do, they don’t seem to be able to >> do a very good job with the sub titles. In general, the PSBs put up
decently large lettering, with the outlines properly edged. The streamers
seem to prefer a much smaller size.
Ch4 has put some effort into curating a collection of decent foreign
series, under the Walter Presents genere. I haven’t seen any other service >> doing this. BBC4 are also well known for presenting foreign series.
That's definitely my favourite defence for the existence of State-owned broadcasters yet - "They need to be State-owned, otherwise the subtitles would be too small".
I'll be sure to try that one myself, if ever I take the paid job with
Capita, to defend the TV Licence model on internet forums ;-)
The presence of State-owned broadcasters which have been
given a de facto prominent position by government decree (and
regardless of their merit), will always distort the commercial market.
In other words, if the BBC/C4 weren't doing X, and there was a public
demand for X, then the market would step in to provide X. No problem at
all.
On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:49:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Combination of too much soft porn
Where do you find porn on C4 these days?
It was known for the 'foreign films' that it broadcast when it started
but it's been a long time since they broadcast any of them.
In other words, if the BBC/C4 weren't doing X, and there was a public
demand for X, then the market would step in to provide X. No problem at
all.
Is the Mull of Kintyre test still in use?
Ch5 has a prominent EPG position but provides no foreign language programming, nor does ITV.
On 08/01/2023 13:41, Alexander wrote:
In other words, if the BBC/C4 weren't doing X, and there was a public
demand for X, then the market would step in to provide X. No problem at
all.
No always true, often "X" will be too expensive for some small private station to do properly considering that many are really being run as a
hobby virtually. Also standards can vary.
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 23:00:30 -0000, "Alexander" <none@nowhere.fr>But isn’t…..
wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fjufrhp9esjkj4e7lk4suidah8nkblr4pf@4ax.com...
They have quite a good selection of foreign TV dramas with subtitles
on their streaming service. BBC4 has showed how popular this can be.
It doesn't need to be State-owned to deliver foreign TV with
subtitles.
Indeed. The "World Drama" section on All4 is a handy collection of
them in one place, but this could be done by any streaming channel.
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