I was intrigued by Countryfile on Sunday, there seems to have been a
decision made that all the interviewees would only speak Welsh and be >subtitled. I have seen the programe in Wales previous and perhaps the odd >person would speak Welsh. There was only one exception, an elderly lady
who seemed to have lived in the area for years but only spoke in English.
It does not bother me - I am half Welsh and my family come from Penygroes
and Bethesda (I even lived there for a short time as a child) which is why
I watched.
Well maybe the BBC needed as many Welsh speakers as possible for their own funding reasons.
Brian
On 13/12/2022 16:44, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well maybe the BBC needed as many Welsh speakers as possible for their own funding reasons.
Brian
There is a bit of a storm about it on Twitter!
I have no objection but wonder what was behind the decision.
Perhaps we can have a future edition of Countryfile in Lankie, then one
in Geordie .....
On 13/12/2022 16:44, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well maybe the BBC needed as many Welsh speakers as possible for their
own
funding reasons.
Brian
There is a bit of a storm about it on Twitter!
I have no objection but wonder what was behind the decision.
Perhaps we can have a future edition of Countryfile in Lankie, then one in Geordie .....
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 13/12/2022 16:44, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well maybe the BBC needed as many Welsh speakers as possible for their
own
funding reasons.
Brian
There is a bit of a storm about it on Twitter!
I have no objection but wonder what was behind the decision.
Perhaps we can have a future edition of Countryfile in Lankie, then one
in Geordie .....
We already have most of the R4 news in Scottish.
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Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
I think one accent that does begin to get annoying is estewari, or that
is how the word would be said. Seems to be a mix of black American, Cockney, and Essex talk, but its got all the bad lazy habits of all of them, and none of the good ones It makes everyone sound like they have badly fitting fails teeth and are chewing a toffee. Brian
I don't mind Scottish accents in moderation but R4 is beginning to sound
like a local Scottish radio staion: every reporter and a
well-above-average proportion of the interviewees speak with such thick Scottish accents it makes understanding them hard work.
I think one accent that does begin to get annoying is estewari, or that is how the word would be said. Seems to be a mix of black American, Cockney,
and Essex talk, but its got all the bad lazy habits of all of them, and none of the good ones It makes everyone sound like they have badly fitting fails teeth and are chewing a toffee.
Brian
Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
I think one accent that does begin to get annoying is estewari, or that is >> how the word would be said. Seems to be a mix of black American, Cockney,
and Essex talk, but its got all the bad lazy habits of all of them, and none >> of the good ones It makes everyone sound like they have badly fitting fails >> teeth and are chewing a toffee.
Brian
I don't mind Scottish accents in moderation but R4 is beginning to sound
like a local Scottish radio staion: every reporter and a
well-above-average proportion of the interviewees speak with such thick Scottish accents it makes understanding them hard work.
How often do you hear a reporter with a distinctly West Country accent
on R4 - even a moderately strong one, let alone one so thick you have to
do mental gymnastics to understand it?
In article <1q2ygdf.138f2u5qpsdjmN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
I think one accent that does begin to get annoying is estewari, or that
is how the word would be said. Seems to be a mix of black American,
Cockney, and Essex talk, but its got all the bad lazy habits of all of
them, and none of the good ones It makes everyone sound like they have
badly fitting fails teeth and are chewing a toffee. Brian
I don't mind Scottish accents in moderation but R4 is beginning to sound
like a local Scottish radio staion: every reporter and a
well-above-average proportion of the interviewees speak with such thick
Scottish accents it makes understanding them hard work.
About 40 years ago,someone asked, at an internal meeting, whether you had
too be a Scot to become a senior engineer at the BBC.
The word is 'proportion', not 'moderation'. About 10% of the British population is Scottish but on many occasions over 50% of the BBC R4 news reporters have a scottish accent. Far more than 10% of the R4
presenters are scottish. The number is out of all proportion to the
actual number of Scots and, in contrast, many accents from other parts
of Britain are not represented at all.
Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
I think one accent that does begin to get annoying is estewari, or that
is how the word would be said. Seems to be a mix of black American,
Cockney, and Essex talk, but its got all the bad lazy habits of all of
them, and none of the good ones It makes everyone sound like they have
badly fitting fails teeth and are chewing a toffee. Brian
I don't mind Scottish accents in moderation but R4 is beginning to sound like a local Scottish radio staion: every reporter and a
well-above-average proportion of the interviewees speak with such thick Scottish accents it makes understanding them hard work.
How often do you hear a reporter with a distinctly West Country accent
on R4 - even a moderately strong one, let alone one so thick you have to
do mental gymnastics to understand it?
I don’t hail from Scotland nor do I live there, but I have absolutely no problem understanding the folk you complain about. I’d be pretty insulted as a Scot if I was told my accent was only allowed on UK national radio in moderation.
On 14/12/2022 17:28, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
The word is 'proportion', not 'moderation'. About 10% of the British population is Scottish but on many occasions over 50% of the BBC R4 news reporters have a scottish accent. Far more than 10% of the R4
presenters are scottish. The number is out of all proportion to the
actual number of Scots and, in contrast, many accents from other parts
of Britain are not represented at all.
If we are only condisering news, is it possible that a focus group once declared that a slight Scottish accent made people trust the news more?
I certainly get the impression that Brummie and Scouse accents have the opposite effect.
I don't mind Scottish accents in moderation but R4 is beginning to sound
like a local Scottish radio staion: every reporter and a
well-above-average proportion of the interviewees speak with such thick Scottish accents it makes understanding them hard work.
I don’t hail from Scotland nor do I live there, but I have absolutely no problem understanding the folk you complain about. I’d be pretty insulted as a Scot if I was told my accent was only allowed on UK national radio in moderation.
If we are only condisering news, is it possible that a focus group once declared that a slight Scottish accent made people trust the news more?
Just well educated in science and engineering. Something perhaps neglected further south?
On 14/12/2022 14:20, Tweed wrote:
Just well educated in science and engineering. Something perhaps neglected >> further south?
I think the superiority of Scottish education system was always
exaggerated, we were advised against Scottish universities when I was at school because they had four years courses and we were told the first of those years was to get them to English A Level standard so would be
wasted on us.
On 14/12/2022 17:36, John Williamson wrote:
If we are only condisering news, is it possible that a focus group once
declared that a slight Scottish accent made people trust the news more?
Again, which 'Scottish accent'?
I hardly think most Glasgow accents (i.e. Rab C Nesbitt) will inspire
any confidence.
On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 06:51:37 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 14/12/2022 14:20, Tweed wrote:
Just well educated in science and engineering. Something perhaps neglected >>>> further south?
I think the superiority of Scottish education system was always
exaggerated, we were advised against Scottish universities when I was at >>> school because they had four years courses and we were told the first of >>> those years was to get them to English A Level standard so would be
wasted on us.
But wasnÂ’t that because they left school a year earlier? Apparently these >> days Scottish school education is in a mess, but I say apparently because
my source of information is the Scottish section of The Times, and that
paper has a visceral hatred of the SNP (I pass no comment as to whether or >> not that hatred is justified).
From what I read regularly in the news these days, educational
establishments everywhere appear to be turning into ideological
indoctrinaton centres dedicated to promulgating the aims and
philosophies of, or capitulating to the demands of, the most
vociferous but often the least knowledgeable minorities.
Good luck learning anything that makes sense.
Rod.
On 14/12/2022 17:28, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
The word is 'proportion', not 'moderation'. About 10% of the BritishIf we are only condisering news, is it possible that a focus group once >declared that a slight Scottish accent made people trust the news more?
population is Scottish but on many occasions over 50% of the BBC R4 news
reporters have a scottish accent. Far more than 10% of the R4
presenters are scottish. The number is out of all proportion to the
actual number of Scots and, in contrast, many accents from other parts
of Britain are not represented at all.
I certainly get the impression that Brummie and Scouse accents have the >opposite effect.
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 14/12/2022 14:20, Tweed wrote:
Just well educated in science and engineering. Something perhaps neglected >>> further south?
I think the superiority of Scottish education system was always
exaggerated, we were advised against Scottish universities when I was at
school because they had four years courses and we were told the first of
those years was to get them to English A Level standard so would be
wasted on us.
But wasn’t that because they left school a year earlier? Apparently these >days Scottish school education is in a mess, but I say apparently because
my source of information is the Scottish section of The Times, and that
paper has a visceral hatred of the SNP (I pass no comment as to whether or >not that hatred is justified).
On 14/12/2022 14:04, Tweed wrote:
I don‘t hail from Scotland nor do I live there, but I have absolutely no problem understanding the folk you complain about. I‘d be pretty insulted as a Scot if I was told my accent was only allowed on UK national radio in moderation.
I worked several times around Aberdeen and people on the radio would
usually ask if I could understand them but I never had any problem.
I have some friends in Buckie and if you mishear their kids say, they
will go into thick Buchan and you have no chance then!
Tweed wrote:
I'd be pretty insulted as a Scot if I was told my accent was only allowed
on UK national radio in moderation.
The word is 'proportion', not 'moderation'.
On 14/12/2022 12:23, Brian Gaff wrote:
Talking of Shawn, has anyone heard how the Shawn the sheep model hasThe Orion capsule returned safely a couple of days ago.
gone
on on the moon mission yet? Is the capsule still out there, or did it
come
back?
Apart from the hydrogen leaks before the launch, it was a satisfyingly
boring mission.
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Tciao for Now!
John.
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