• Maida Vale

    From MB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 24 11:12:43 2022
    It is reported that the BBC Maida Vale studios are up for sale.

    https://www.lsh.co.uk/find/properties/london/london/2049733?listing=true

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 24 11:15:32 2022
    On 24/11/2022 11:12, MB wrote:
    It is reported that the BBC Maida Vale studios are up for sale.

    https://www.lsh.co.uk/find/properties/london/london/2049733?listing=true

    Yep, been on the cards for several years now. The Beeb's plan is to
    relocate them to Stratford I think (E20 not CV37)

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  • From Robin@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Thu Nov 24 13:39:12 2022
    On 24/11/2022 11:15, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 24/11/2022 11:12, MB wrote:
    It is reported that the BBC Maida Vale studios are up for sale.

    https://www.lsh.co.uk/find/properties/london/london/2049733?listing=true

    Yep, been on the cards for several years now. The Beeb's plan is to
    relocate them to Stratford I think (E20 not CV37)

    Right (as usual): they're coming to Stratford's "East Bank" - another of
    the trendy post-Olympics developments that mean I now have to travel
    miles further to find useful things like a wood yard, pipe bender, panel beater, ...

    https://londonist.com/london/latest-news/what-is-the-new-east-bank-in-the-olympic-park



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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Fri Nov 25 11:07:50 2022
    That is a shame, they should be somehow listed for historical interest.
    Brian

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    "MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:tlnjja$l2g6$1@dont-email.me...
    It is reported that the BBC Maida Vale studios are up for sale.

    https://www.lsh.co.uk/find/properties/london/london/2049733?listing=true


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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Fri Nov 25 11:47:35 2022
    On 25/11/2022 11:07, Brian Gaff wrote:
    That is a shame, they should be somehow listed for historical interest.
    Brian




    BBC Maida Vale Studios

    British Broadcasting Corporation, Delaware Road, London, W9 2LG

    Listed on the National Heritage List for England. Search over 400,000
    listed places


    https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1463441

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 25 21:33:39 2022
    In article <tlqa0n$vfkn$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> scribeth
    thus
    On 25/11/2022 11:07, Brian Gaff wrote:
    That is a shame, they should be somehow listed for historical interest.
    Brian




    BBC Maida Vale Studios

    British Broadcasting Corporation, Delaware Road, London, W9 2LG

    Listed on the National Heritage List for England. Search over 400,000
    listed places


    https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1463441



    So sad to see that place closing! Spent some time there whilst working
    for Audix Broadcast installing and commissioning some desks there one
    for the Val Gielgud studio IIRC.

    Great place to work, canteen was very good and cheap and amazing who
    you'd bump into shared the same table as John Cleese that was an
    interesting conversation!

    Great to listen to the orchestra or band in the studio and it being
    reproduced in the control room on decent speakers thats why I've been a
    big fan of such as the LS5/8's

    Be interested to see what they'll do with it can't see it being used for recording or radio or TV expect it may well be split into smaller
    industrial office spaces.

    Offers over 10.5 million humm!!

    Very nice part of London too:)
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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to tony sayer on Sat Nov 26 10:19:42 2022
    tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:
    Be interested to see what they'll do with it can't see it being used for recording or radio or TV expect it may well be split into smaller
    industrial office spaces.

    Offers over 10.5 million humm!!

    The agent's brochure: https://prism.agencypilot.com/crm/store/documents/other/2725568_uh264fio4i42wt79.pdf

    has various options for what the purchaser might try to squeeze past
    planning, including:


    "Complete redevelopment behind retained facade
    In this option it is assumed the current use is not viable
    The option illustrates a complete redevelopment within the
    external walls and breaches the roof form. New massing sits
    inside the retained facade
    Cultural space/retail memorabilia and interactive
    experiences could be located behind the existing main
    entrance within newly built space
    If massing restricted to ridge height then 4 new floors are
    possible - 10,900 sq m new build - 127 residential units
    If massing breaches ridge height say 5/6 floors
    - approx. 12,900 sq m - 150 residential units
    Acceptability in heritage terms dependent upon delivering
    sufficiently great (substantial) public benefits."


    So really depends on what they manage to wangle.

    Theo

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Theo on Sat Nov 26 15:33:57 2022
    On 26/11/2022 10:19, Theo wrote:
    tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:
    Be interested to see what they'll do with it can't see it being used for
    recording or radio or TV expect it may well be split into smaller
    industrial office spaces.

    Offers over 10.5 million humm!!

    The agent's brochure: https://prism.agencypilot.com/crm/store/documents/other/2725568_uh264fio4i42wt79.pdf

    has various options for what the purchaser might try to squeeze past planning, including:


    "Complete redevelopment behind retained facade
    In this option it is assumed the current use is not viable
    The option illustrates a complete redevelopment within the
    external walls and breaches the roof form. New massing sits
    inside the retained facade

    I hate it when they do that. In the 70s there was a triangular
    development just opposite Charing Cross station where they gutted a load
    of buildings (probably originally residential), just leaving the
    facades. I can see why they had to do it, as all the internal walls and chimney-stacks would have taken so much space up, but they might as well
    have knocked the whole lot down and built one of their hideous modern
    buildings (like the skyscraper that melts cars).

    There's a particular egregious example in the high street of Swindon Old
    Town; I think it was originally a bank, but it's so obviously a fudge.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Sun Nov 27 12:57:08 2022
    On 27/11/2022 12:49, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Kingston, however will never be finished as they are now redeveloping parts the already redeveloped in the 70s again.


    Probably a good thing, isn't it said of many town in the South of
    England that councils did more damage in the 1960s than the Luftwaffe in
    WWII!

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Sun Nov 27 12:49:43 2022
    Bentalls in Kingston Upon Thames, a completely new shopping centre built behind the original listed walls of the front and sides.
    I'm really not sure. The original building did have third party shops etc, even a post office, but it was great to explore as it had ramps and steps in all sorts of odd places. Now its just a lot of normal looking shops and a
    big Bentalls at the back.
    There used to be some nice water features inside the main area where the escalators and lifts were, but I don't think they are there any more. On the Opposite corner of the junction was a similarly old building and that has of course been redeveloped into a John Lewis and Waitrose.
    Kingston, however will never be finished as they are now redeveloping parts the already redeveloped in the 70s again.
    Brian

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    On 26/11/2022 10:19, Theo wrote:
    tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:
    Be interested to see what they'll do with it can't see it being used for >>> recording or radio or TV expect it may well be split into smaller
    industrial office spaces.

    Offers over 10.5 million humm!!

    The agent's brochure:
    https://prism.agencypilot.com/crm/store/documents/other/2725568_uh264fio4i42wt79.pdf

    has various options for what the purchaser might try to squeeze past
    planning, including:


    "Complete redevelopment behind retained facade
    In this option it is assumed the current use is not viable
    The option illustrates a complete redevelopment within the
    external walls and breaches the roof form. New massing sits
    inside the retained facade

    I hate it when they do that. In the 70s there was a triangular development just opposite Charing Cross station where they gutted a load of buildings (probably originally residential), just leaving the facades. I can see why they had to do it, as all the internal walls and chimney-stacks would have taken so much space up, but they might as well have knocked the whole lot down and built one of their hideous modern buildings (like the skyscraper that melts cars).

    There's a particular egregious example in the high street of Swindon Old Town; I think it was originally a bank, but it's so obviously a fudge.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 27 14:03:05 2022
    On Sun 27/11/2022 12:57, MB wrote:
    On 27/11/2022 12:49, Brian Gaff wrote:
      Kingston, however will never be finished as they are now
    redeveloping parts
    the already redeveloped in the 70s again.


    Probably a good thing, isn't it said of many town in the South of
    England that councils did more damage in the 1960s than the Luftwaffe in WWII!




    Not just the South East! Try visiting Hull sometime.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 27 18:07:57 2022
    That is South East from here. :-)

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sun Nov 27 18:15:46 2022
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 27/11/2022 12:49, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Kingston, however will never be finished as they are now redeveloping parts the already redeveloped in the 70s again.


    Probably a good thing, isn't it said of many town in the South of
    England that councils did more damage in the 1960s than the Luftwaffe in WWII!

    I have said that to some German visitors I was showing around Bath - I'm
    not sure they believed me.

    A few years ago the old Bath tramway depot was put on the market. The
    facade was a dreadful ugly eyesore, but inside the building was a
    treasure trove of industrial archaeolgy. We campaigned to have the
    interior preserved. but the facade was kept and everything else
    destroyed.


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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 28 12:10:30 2022
    Yes money talks, particularly at the moment with Government not giving
    councils the money to run vital services.

    Brian

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    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 27/11/2022 12:49, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Kingston, however will never be finished as they are now redeveloping
    parts the already redeveloped in the 70s again.


    Probably a good thing, isn't it said of many town in the South of
    England that councils did more damage in the 1960s than the Luftwaffe in
    WWII!

    I have said that to some German visitors I was showing around Bath - I'm
    not sure they believed me.

    A few years ago the old Bath tramway depot was put on the market. The
    facade was a dreadful ugly eyesore, but inside the building was a
    treasure trove of industrial archaeolgy. We campaigned to have the
    interior preserved. but the facade was kept and everything else
    destroyed.


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