• Marconi Wireless Telegraph (Locomotive?) No.1

    From MB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 14:27:58 2022
    I posted this on uk.railways, though might interest someone here.



    Thunderbird is very flakey at the moment


    Anyone know if any Marconi locomotived survive anywhere


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    Marconi Wireless Telegraph (Locomotive?) No.1

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 14:24:47 2022
    I posted this on uk.railways, might interest someone here



    Marconi Wireless Telegraph (Locomotive?) No.1


    I wonder if any of their locomotives survive anywhere?


    http://images.galwaylibrary.ie/greenstone/cgi-bin/library.cgi?a=q&r=1&hs=1&e=p-01000-00---off-0t3--00-1----01-10-00---0---0direct-10----4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-3-1-00-00--4--0--0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&fqf=CN&t=1&q=marconi+wireless+station+
    clifden

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    Aristocratic Visitors to the Marconi Radio Station

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Thu Oct 6 11:22:37 2022
    Are these locomotives built by them or merely named after the product to promote it?
    Brian

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    I posted this on uk.railways, though might interest someone here.



    Thunderbird is very flakey at the moment


    Anyone know if any Marconi locomotived survive anywhere


    shorturl.at/eoxRS


    Marconi Wireless Telegraph (Locomotive?) No.1



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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Thu Oct 6 12:31:45 2022
    On 06/10/2022 11:22, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Are these locomotives built by them or merely named after the product to promote it?
    Brian

    The sign writing on the one in the picture was just a way to let people
    know who owned it, and which one it was. It worked on a railway which
    was entirely on site, and never went outside the fence.

    Basically, poorly stencilled white lettering on a plain black
    locomotive. It is attached to a passenger carriage which looks as if it
    was made specially for a VIP visit by fastening a few seats and
    decoration to a goods waggon.

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    John.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Thu Oct 6 14:57:09 2022
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    I posted this on uk.railways, though might interest someone here.



    Thunderbird is very flakey at the moment


    Anyone know if any Marconi locomotived survive anywhere


    shorturl.at/eoxRS


    Marconi Wireless Telegraph (Locomotive?) No.1

    Try asking the Railway and Canal Historical Society, they are full of information like that.


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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Thu Oct 6 16:16:54 2022
    On 06/10/2022 14:57, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    I posted this on uk.railways, though might interest someone here.



    Thunderbird is very flakey at the moment


    Anyone know if any Marconi locomotived survive anywhere


    shorturl.at/eoxRS


    Marconi Wireless Telegraph (Locomotive?) No.1

    Try asking the Railway and Canal Historical Society, they are full of information like that.


    Wikilies says it was built by Dick & Kerr in Glasgow, and it is not
    listed among their surviving production.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick,_Kerr_%26_Co.#Locomotives

    The line was torn up and all the rolling stock probably scrapped in
    1922, when the Marconi works burned down.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Thu Oct 6 17:47:18 2022
    John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

    On 06/10/2022 14:57, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    I posted this on uk.railways, though might interest someone here.



    Thunderbird is very flakey at the moment


    Anyone know if any Marconi locomotived survive anywhere


    shorturl.at/eoxRS


    Marconi Wireless Telegraph (Locomotive?) No.1

    Try asking the Railway and Canal Historical Society, they are full of information like that.


    Wikilies says it was built by Dick & Kerr in Glasgow, and it is not
    listed among their surviving production.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick,_Kerr_%26_Co.#Locomotives

    The line was torn up and all the rolling stock probably scrapped in
    1922, when the Marconi works burned down.

    I doubt if an industrial locomotive would be scrapped unless it was too
    badly damaged or near the end of its life anyway. They were often sold
    on to another owner, overhauled, re-named, re-numbered and put back into
    use.


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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Thu Oct 6 19:31:17 2022
    On 06/10/2022 17:47, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    I doubt if an industrial locomotive would be scrapped unless it was too
    badly damaged or near the end of its life anyway. They were often sold
    on to another owner, overhauled, re-named, re-numbered and put back into
    use.


    A lot of the others of that type were nearing their end of life, as
    looking at the dates, it was one of the last of that type produced, in
    the early 1900s, but as you say, they did tend to have the last ounce of
    use worked out of them. As this was a narrow gauge line, though, the
    market was more limited.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Fri Oct 7 10:47:53 2022
    I was going to say, the line gauges being different for different rail
    systems was always an issue. Some were of course built to be modified for similar if not the same gauges.

    Brian

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    "John Williamson" <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:jq8l7oFrce5U1@mid.individual.net...
    On 06/10/2022 17:47, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    I doubt if an industrial locomotive would be scrapped unless it was too
    badly damaged or near the end of its life anyway. They were often sold
    on to another owner, overhauled, re-named, re-numbered and put back into
    use.


    A lot of the others of that type were nearing their end of life, as
    looking at the dates, it was one of the last of that type produced, in the early 1900s, but as you say, they did tend to have the last ounce of use worked out of them. As this was a narrow gauge line, though, the market
    was more limited.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Fri Oct 7 10:45:40 2022
    Hmm, more of a curio than anything else then.

    Brian

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    "John Williamson" <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:jq7sl5Fnle9U1@mid.individual.net...
    On 06/10/2022 11:22, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Are these locomotives built by them or merely named after the product to
    promote it?
    Brian

    The sign writing on the one in the picture was just a way to let people
    know who owned it, and which one it was. It worked on a railway which was entirely on site, and never went outside the fence.

    Basically, poorly stencilled white lettering on a plain black locomotive.
    It is attached to a passenger carriage which looks as if it was made specially for a VIP visit by fastening a few seats and decoration to a
    goods waggon.

    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Fri Oct 7 13:33:07 2022
    On 07/10/2022 10:45, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Hmm, more of a curio than anything else then.

    Brian

    Now, yes, but in the years before the picture was taken, it was a very
    useful piece of equipment, as it used to pull trains loaded with peat
    from where it had been cut to where it got burned to power the factory.

    The crew and all the workshop staff probably spent the entire night
    before the visit cleaning and polishing it....

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Mon Oct 10 10:19:53 2022
    Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    I was going to say, the line gauges being different for different rail systems was always an issue. Some were of course built to be modified for similar if not the same gauges.

    Many basic contractors' locomotive designs were sold as different models
    to suit different gauges. Altering them later was often just a matter
    of a few component changes and may not have even involved returning the
    whole locomotive to the factory. Wheel sets, complete with their axles,
    were often changed when the tyres became worn or developed flats during
    the normal working life; it was a routine operation.

    For light railways, such as temporary contractors' railways, the
    narrower gauges has the advantage of allowing tighter curves and lighter
    weight track. Track was often transported to the site in the form of pre-assembled panels and was frequently pulled up and re-laid several
    times as the work progressed, so track weight was more significant than
    on permanent railways.

    Re-selling a viable narrow-gauge contractors locomotive would not have
    been as difficult as it first appears, but a worn-out specimen, which
    had to be transported from an isolated location, might well have been
    scrapped instead.

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