I would have expected that some official person would have had to inform the media. I would not expect flags at half mast to be the only indication.
Compilation of how six BBC channels announced the death.
BBC Scotland switched to it then went back to their own programming for several minutes.
BBC2 took ages to catch up.
I wonder if the brief shot of the Buckingham Palace flag at half mast on BBC1/BBC News was intentional or someone did not realise the significance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxngVQPc8Yw
Compilation of how six BBC channels announced the death.
BBC Scotland switched to it then went back to their own programming
for several minutes.
BBC2 took ages to catch up.
Compilation of how six BBC channels announced the death.
BBC Scotland switched to it then went back to their own programming for several minutes.
BBC2 took ages to catch up.
Is there one central point in the BBC network that all programme feeds
can be intercepted to substitute a single feed when there is a major
news story?
I would have expected that some official person would have had to inform
the media. I would not expect flags at half mast to be the only
indication.
I imagine that Huw Edwards and the people who prepare the news website were >all lined-up to announce/publish the news, on the assumption that it would
be bad, but with alternative bulletins in case it was "no further news" or >"she's recovering", waiting for the instant when they were authorised to >"press the button". I wonder if broadcasters got any advance warning, with >the news embargoed until 18:30, or whether it was literally news to >newsreaders like Huw Edwards,
NY wrote:
I imagine that Huw Edwards and the people who prepare the news website
were
all lined-up to announce/publish the news, on the assumption that it would >>be bad, but with alternative bulletins in case it was "no further news" or >>"she's recovering", waiting for the instant when they were authorised to >>"press the button". I wonder if broadcasters got any advance warning, with >>the news embargoed until 18:30, or whether it was literally news to >>newsreaders like Huw Edwards,
It struck me that once they had put their presenters in black
suit and tie, it would have been more than a little embarrassing
to then announce that all was well, for the time being.
I am of the opinion that they had been given pretty reliable
information, but, as you say, embargoed waiting for the official
word.
Isn't there provision in London Bridge (which I presume must have
at least had a cursory update by now) for the sequence of
notification, which prioritises such as overseas embassies.
NY wrote:
I wonder if the presenters were deliberately *not* told until very close to >>the embargo time, to avoid them having to do the impossible: continuing to >>fill in time on what is still a story of "she's gravely ill" when they know >>that she's died. Presuming that she may well die is very different from >>knowing that she definitely has.
I often wonder how things were organised back when signal beacons
were lit to convey urgent news.
With effectively only one data channel, If you were anticipating
a possible invasion, but the ruler died, what would the signal
be?
Chris
I wonder if the presenters were deliberately *not* told until very close to >the embargo time, to avoid them having to do the impossible: continuing to >fill in time on what is still a story of "she's gravely ill" when they know >that she's died. Presuming that she may well die is very different from >knowing that she definitely has.
Yes, It's almost as if they were waiting for someone to fade out BBC 2
(or for someone to figure out how to override the automation on BBC 2
!), before making the formal announcement, and playing the national anthen
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 13:22:16 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
With effectively only one data channel, If you were anticipating
a possible invasion, but the ruler died, what would the signal
be?
Somebody on a fast horse perhaps?
I would have expected that some official person would have had to inform the media. I would not expect flags at half mast to be the only indication.
I imagine that Huw Edwards and the people who prepare the news website were all lined-up to announce/publish the news, on the assumption that it would
be bad, but with alternative bulletins in case it was "no further news" or "she's recovering", waiting for the instant when they were authorised to "press the button". I wonder if broadcasters got any advance warning, with the news embargoed until 18:30, or whether it was literally news to newsreaders like Huw Edwards, in the same way that Walter Cronkite was
handed a piece of paper while he was on air, to tell him that JFK had died. That Cronkite footage, with him removing and replacing his glasses, looking off-camera for a second, and pausing to take in what he had just read, is powerful stuff.
On 23/09/2022 08:21, Mark Carver wrote:
Yes, It's almost as if they were waiting for someone to fade out BBC 2
(or for someone to figure out how to override the automation on BBC 2
!), before making the formal announcement, and playing the national
anthen
They need to improve things, what if it was warning of war. They need
to be able to change over all networks centrally on command.
I wondered if someone at BBC2 wanted to show the end of a race and
ignored the order the switch over.
BBC News Channel I don't think goes anywhere near Red Bee, it's just
studio output, directly the the code/mux centres.
On 23/09/2022 09:46, Mark Carver wrote:
BBC News Channel I don't think goes anywhere near Red Bee, it's just
studio output, directly the the code/mux centres.
Weren't BBC News already carrying BBC 1.
"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:3ubriht0lue4onadufgmuloa9i2ln92gs3@4ax.com...
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 13:22:16 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
With effectively only one data channel, If you were anticipating
a possible invasion, but the ruler died, what would the signal
be?
Somebody on a fast horse perhaps?
If it was in the steam punk era of Terry Pratchet's Going Postal, the
fastest way would of course be the Klacks. ;-)
It struck me that once they had put their presenters in black
suit and tie, it would have been more than a little embarrassing
to then announce that all was well, for the time being.
I am of the opinion that they had been given pretty reliable
information, but, as you say, embargoed waiting for the official
word.
On 23/09/2022 14:52, NY wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in messageIt was here as well. In 1836, the Navy set up a semaphore line from London
news:3ubriht0lue4onadufgmuloa9i2ln92gs3@4ax.com...
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 13:22:16 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
With effectively only one data channel, If you were anticipating
a possible invasion, but the ruler died, what would the signal
be?
Somebody on a fast horse perhaps?
If it was in the steam punk era of Terry Pratchet's Going Postal, the
fastest way would of course be the Klacks. ;-)
to Portsmouth, which was only closed in 1850 when the railways took over
as the carrier of choice.
http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php?title=Portsmouth_Semaphore_Line
There were also chains of beacons maintained to tell people there was a problem, with the details being carried by messengers on the fastest horse they had, in a nationwide network of stables. It was a touch faster than
the stagecoaches, whose owners owned the horses and the stables. Instead
of broadcast radio and TV, they had Town Cryers.
NY wrote:I read somewhere once that the beacon semaphore system in around nelsons
I wonder if the presenters were deliberately *not* told until very close to >>the embargo time, to avoid them having to do the impossible: continuing to >>fill in time on what is still a story of "she's gravely ill" when they know >>that she's died. Presuming that she may well die is very different from >>knowing that she definitely has.
I often wonder how things were organised back when signal beacons
were lit to convey urgent news.
With effectively only one data channel, If you were anticipating
a possible invasion, but the ruler died, what would the signal
be?
Chris
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Compilation of how six BBC channels announced the death.
BBC Scotland switched to it then went back to their own programming for
several minutes.
BBC2 took ages to catch up.
The World Service was still running English lessons in Chinese at least
two hours later.
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Mark Carver wrote:
If you believe some of what you read on the internet, The Queen probably
passed away early afternoon.
15:10 according to the death certificate
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