• Bilsdale has been demolished

    From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 6 16:22:36 2021
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    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

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  • From David Williams@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Wed Oct 6 17:38:31 2021
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    [ Cross-posted, as in OP ]

    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Thanks. Looks like a neat job, with simultaneous explosions at
    the base of the mast and two stay points on the same side. Some
    debris from the top sections landed across an access track but
    ... that may make cleaning up easier.

    Tyne Tees have a tweet leading to an article and Arqiva footage
    from multiple viewpoints. (Search "Bilsdale" because they haven't
    used any hashtags.)

    --
    David

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  • From Tweed@21:1/5 to David Williams on Wed Oct 6 16:42:01 2021
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    David Williams <davidw_3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    [ Cross-posted, as in OP ]

    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Thanks. Looks like a neat job, with simultaneous explosions at
    the base of the mast and two stay points on the same side. Some
    debris from the top sections landed across an access track but
    ... that may make cleaning up easier.

    Tyne Tees have a tweet leading to an article and Arqiva footage
    from multiple viewpoints. (Search "Bilsdale" because they haven't
    used any hashtags.)


    On YouTube https://youtu.be/AA-fmLFaqAc

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Wed Oct 6 17:56:03 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to watch.
    Bloody spoilsports...

    I've seen amateur video of the collapse - not the Arqiva video on Youtube -
    so I wonder how *they* knew.

    Interesting that there's nothing (yet) on the Arqiva Bilsdale page https://www.arqiva.com/news-views/news/update-on-incident-at-bilsdale-mast

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 6 17:56:05 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <sjkjkp$gm5$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> scribeth thus
    David Williams <davidw_3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    [ Cross-posted, as in OP ]

    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Thanks. Looks like a neat job, with simultaneous explosions at
    the base of the mast and two stay points on the same side. Some
    debris from the top sections landed across an access track but
    ... that may make cleaning up easier.

    Tyne Tees have a tweet leading to an article and Arqiva footage
    from multiple viewpoints. (Search "Bilsdale" because they haven't
    used any hashtags.)


    On YouTube https://youtu.be/AA-fmLFaqAc


    Yes that went as I'd expect it to come down, right stays cut and..

    You'd think they'd sell off bits as souvenirs wouldn't you?, no
    imagination Arqiva;!...

    --
    Tony Sayer


    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 6 18:19:13 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 06/10/2021 17:56, NY wrote:
    I've seen amateur video of the collapse - not the Arqiva video on Youtube - so I wonder how*they* knew.

    I wonder if a NOTAM was issued?

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to tony sayer on Wed Oct 6 18:21:51 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 06/10/2021 17:56, tony sayer wrote:
    You'd think they'd sell off bits as souvenirs wouldn't you?, no
    imagination Arqiva;!...

    No bits on eBay yet?

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Oct 6 22:02:24 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:xn0n3tkicsj99kh025@news.individual.net...
    On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:

    I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to watch. >>Bloody spoilsports...

    The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday October
    31 at 7am if it's not too far away.

    Sadly, the other end of the country. I'd have gone to see Didcot's towers coming down a few years ago if I'd still lived a mile or so from them: I bet Wittenham Clumps (hill nearby with good view) was packed! But we now live in Yorkshire - hence being able to get over to Bilsdale easily. We went for a
    walk on Bilsdale *East* Moor (opposite side of Helmsley-Stokesley road) a
    few weeks ago and there was a good view of the mast from near the trig
    point, so we'd decided that's where we'd go there once it was announced when the demolition would be... But H&S and safety exclusions won over allowing
    the public to witness it, even from a distance. Apparently the locals were told, but for some reason none of the locals told the newspapers - I keep an eye on the York Press and the Ryedale Gazette sites.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me on Wed Oct 6 20:32:42 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:

    I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to watch. >Bloody spoilsports...

    The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday October
    31 at 7am if it's not too far away.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
    The true meaning of life is to plant trees under whose shade you do not
    expect to sit.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Thu Oct 7 08:45:03 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 06/10/2021 21:32, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:

    I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to
    watch. Bloody spoilsports...

    The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday
    October 31 at 7am if it's not too far away.

    Yes, we're going to watch from Meon Shore. I suspect we won't be alone,
    but at least it's free parking until 10am

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 7 08:50:59 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 06/10/2021 17:56, NY wrote:
    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to watch.

    You and thousands of others. That's the problem

    I've seen amateur video of the collapse - not the Arqiva video on
    Youtube - so I wonder how *they* knew.

    Probably locals who had been tipped off, and/or noticed lots of drones
    suddenly being flown and/or the exclusion zone suddenly being widened

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Thu Oct 7 09:08:14 2021
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    I wonder why they did not do a live broadcast or publicise it more locally. Maybe they were frightened of the idiot factor of people getting too close
    to it, but nonetheless, its did sound a bit like a load of old scrap iron on the audio I listened to, and yet only about three days ago somebody was
    talking about repairing it and rewiring it. I guess the bean counters
    weighed up the possible danger of collapse in the meantime against the cost
    of a rebuild, but still site clearance is not going to be cheap, I wonder if souvenir hunters will be up there in the dead of night for some bits they
    can take away?
    Brian

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    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Thu Oct 7 09:10:26 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 07/10/2021 08:45, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 21:32, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:

    I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to
    watch. Bloody spoilsports...

    The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday
    October 31 at 7am if it's not too far away.

    Yes, we're going to watch from Meon Shore. I suspect we won't be alone,
    but at least it's free parking until 10am

    I hope it's not going to be too nippy for you... <https://www.walkingclub.org.uk/nudist-beach/Meon-near-Lee-on-Solent-Hampshire.html>

    --

    Jeff

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Thu Oct 7 09:12:17 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 07/10/2021 09:10, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 07/10/2021 08:45, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 21:32, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:

    I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to
    watch. Bloody spoilsports...

    The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday
    October 31 at 7am if it's not too far away.

    Yes, we're going to watch from Meon Shore. I suspect we won't be alone,
    but at least it's free parking until 10am

    I hope it's not going to be too nippy for you... <https://www.walkingclub.org.uk/nudist-beach/Meon-near-Lee-on-Solent-Hampshire.html>


    Ha ha, yes, we stumbled across (literally !) that lot a few weeks ago.
    Not a pretty sight !

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Thu Oct 7 09:14:06 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981


    "Just cutting the stays on one side should allow it to fall in the >>preferred direction." [Liz Tuddenham]

    "Bet you as mucho as you like Liz that they will blow out a bit at the >>bottom!," [Tony Sayer]

    Looks as though we were both right.


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    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 7 09:17:09 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 07/10/2021 09:08, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    I wonder why they did not do a live broadcast or publicise it more locally. Maybe they were frightened of the idiot factor of people getting too close
    to it,

    It's a national park, with narrow and poor roads. There'd have been
    utter chaos.
    The whole reason the replacement etc is taking so long is because of all
    the environmental concerns.

    but nonetheless, its did sound a bit like a load of old scrap iron on
    the audio I listened to, and yet only about three days ago somebody was talking about repairing it and rewiring it.

    Who was ? Provide a link please. There's never been any recent
    suggestion (from Arqiva or the broadcasters) it was repairable

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Thu Oct 7 11:45:26 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:22:36 +0100
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Blaster Bates would have approved!
    And if you don't know who he was, then you need edificating.

    Davey.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Davey on Thu Oct 7 12:34:16 2021
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    "Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message news:sjmj46$pci$4@dont-email.me...
    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:22:36 +0100
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Blaster Bates would have approved!
    And if you don't know who he was, then you need edificating.

    Blaster Bates was a legend, alongside Fred Dibnah. I love his story about "a shower of shit over Cheshire" when he blew up a cesspit which showered a lot
    of well-rotted excrement into the air; all would have gone well except that someone strayed into the line of fire, started to run away and *nearly*
    outran the shower but tripped at the last minute and got covered...

    I borrowed a couple of cassettes of his talks from a friend at work many
    years ago. There's one story he told which I've never managed to find on Youtube. It concerns Father Christmas coming down a chimney and meeting a nubile lass who invites him into bed. He's a busy man and he's got lots more presents to deliver, so he resists her invitation three times, but
    eventually her nakedness has the expected effect on his anatomy, and the
    story ends with him saying "Sod it, I might as well stay. With this stiffy
    I'll never get back up the chimney anyway."

    Another good raconteur was David Gunson, an air-traffic controller who gave
    an after-dinner talk which was recorded and released on cassette. He
    describes in hilarious terms his work of a controller (and the problems that the French controllers used to cause to British flights when they staged a lightning strike) and ends with a description of how to fly a jumbo jet.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Thu Oct 7 12:38:25 2021
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    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Here are a few close-up pictures of the felled mast that I grabbed from the local Tyne Tees report last night, as well as one of the new 80 metre mast which looks *very* small in comparison...

    https://i.postimg.cc/BnR9cHFv/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m08s11.png https://i.postimg.cc/j50TKPq1/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m11s37.png https://i.postimg.cc/9F8j0vFZ/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m16s82.png

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Thu Oct 7 12:57:05 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 12:34:16 +0100
    "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    Blaster Bates would have approved!
    And if you don't know who he was, then you need edificating.

    Blaster Bates was a legend, alongside Fred Dibnah. I love his story
    about "a shower of shit over Cheshire" when he blew up a cesspit
    which showered a lot of well-rotted excrement into the air; all would
    have gone well except that someone strayed into the line of fire,
    started to run away and *nearly* outran the shower but tripped at the
    last minute and got covered...

    "Like gossamer, it were!"

    One of his tales involved getting involved in a fox hunt, and his
    memorable phrase about the horses approaching at speed was: "They don't
    have Ferodo, you know."

    Yep, he and Fred were two of a kind.

    I might have heard a David Gunson talk, without knowing anything about
    him. Your description sounds familiar. I remember somebody talking
    about pulling his boots on in the morning, checking that the 'L' and
    'R' marks were on the correct feet.

    --
    Davey,

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to briang1@blueyonder.co.uk on Thu Oct 7 12:17:10 2021
    On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 09:08:14 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    its did sound a bit like a load of old scrap iron on
    the audio I listened to,

    That's pretty much what it is now.

    Rod.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Davey on Thu Oct 7 13:40:15 2021
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    "Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message news:sjmnai$pci$5@dont-email.me...
    I might have heard a David Gunson talk, without knowing anything about
    him. Your description sounds familiar. I remember somebody talking
    about pulling his boots on in the morning, checking that the 'L' and
    'R' marks were on the correct feet.

    That sounds like him. I think it was "kid-leather gloves" with L and R on
    the backs

    He had a laconic Birmingham accent and a talent for telling a story in a
    very entertaining way. He describes how to fly a helicopter: (I'm
    paraphrasing) "It's all a bit hit-and-miss. You move the stick like crazy,
    all over the place, then you hold it steady and you watch what happens,
    because if you want it to do that again, *that* is where you put the stick". When he was talking about the French air-traffic controller's strike (on a Friday) he recounts phoning them after several days of pandemonium because flights had to take a long detour to avoid French air-space. He finds that
    they are back at work: "Affirmative. We came back to work Saturday. It's
    been *very* quiet this weekend" - they'd gone on strike for one day, gone
    back to work again the next day... but hadn't told any of the neighbouring countries.

    The tape is called "What goes up might come down". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_iTG1CsQBs


    Another very memorable (though more serious) talk that I heard was very dramatic account of a helicopter pilot who managed to land his helicopter safely after the tail rotor failed, which normally makes the helicopter impossible to fly, and it spins and crashes. Somehow this guy managed to mentally sift through his memory of everything he had learned and he managed
    to work out a plan for getting it down, even if it did land on one wheel and
    go sideways down the runway till he tipped it back over and brought it to
    rest. The crucial thing was that he had to land it at speed, because it was only the forward motion of air over the tail which was preventing it
    spinning. He was one of the pilots who flew the comms helicopter for
    Treasure Hunt (there's a photo of the helicopter in the livery that we saw
    in TH) and was returning to base after a day's filming. The TV cameraman performed a crucial task in cutting the engines at exactly the right moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNkwk2d_DJ8

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 7 13:32:54 2021
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    On 07/10/2021 12:34, NY wrote:
    Blaster Bates was a legend, alongside Fred Dibnah. I love his story about "a shower of shit over Cheshire" when he blew up a cesspit which showered a lot of well-rotted excrement into the air; all would have gone well except that someone strayed into the line of fire, started to run away and*nearly*
    outran the shower but tripped at the last minute and got covered...


    Years ago I read a book the founder of the Met's Bomb Squad. He had
    been an AT in army and spent time in Libya clearing wartime munitions.
    He went to one village where there a bomb in a cesspit. The villagers
    were all waiting for him to get into the cesspit to make it safe but he
    just blew it up without getting into the tank.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Thu Oct 7 15:10:42 2021
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    On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 13:40:15 +0100
    "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    The tape is called "What goes up might come down".

    Yes, that's the one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_iTG1CsQBs


    Another very memorable (though more serious) talk that I heard was
    very dramatic account of a helicopter pilot who managed to land his helicopter safely after the tail rotor failed, which normally makes
    the helicopter impossible to fly, and it spins and crashes. Somehow
    this guy managed to mentally sift through his memory of everything he
    had learned and he managed to work out a plan for getting it down,
    even if it did land on one wheel and go sideways down the runway till
    he tipped it back over and brought it to rest. The crucial thing was
    that he had to land it at speed, because it was only the forward
    motion of air over the tail which was preventing it spinning. He was
    one of the pilots who flew the comms helicopter for Treasure Hunt
    (there's a photo of the helicopter in the livery that we saw in TH)
    and was returning to base after a day's filming. The TV cameraman
    performed a crucial task in cutting the engines at exactly the right
    moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNkwk2d_DJ8

    When we lived in the US, there was a TV documentary called 'Condition
    Black' about a record surfing event off of Hawaii's North Shore.
    Massive, massive swells, a total ban on anybody going out there to surf,
    which of course was ignored. The helicopter pilot with the IMAX camera
    on board was an ex-Vietnam pilot, and he kept on flying so low that the
    'copter kept disappearing below wave-top height, with subsequent
    stoppings of hearts of the shore-bound onlookers. If you can, watch it, although I have no idea where you would find it. It has to be about 15
    years old now, at least.
    It was probably a Discovery Channel, a PBS Channel, or maybe a
    Smithsonian Channel programme. I have forgotten all the different
    channels there now.
    I have it on NTSC videotape........marked as about 2003. It is not
    transcribed to PC digital file.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 7 17:20:54 2021
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    On Thu 07/10/2021 12:38, NY wrote:
    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Here are a few close-up pictures of the felled mast that I grabbed from
    the local Tyne Tees report last night, as well as one of the new 80
    metre mast which looks *very* small in comparison...

    https://i.postimg.cc/BnR9cHFv/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m08s11.png https://i.postimg.cc/j50TKPq1/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m11s37.png https://i.postimg.cc/9F8j0vFZ/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m16s82.png

    The reason for the new temp mast looking small is because its base is
    lower than the big tube, and the picture was taken probably from the
    track below the site so the temp will look small.

    Have a look at the link Mark put in of the demolition yesterday and you
    will get a glimpse of the temp.

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Woody on Fri Oct 8 08:27:28 2021
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    80Mtres is only a bit higher than a 5g telecom mast these days.


    Brian

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    "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:sjn6p6$pp5$1@dont-email.me...
    On Thu 07/10/2021 12:38, NY wrote:
    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Here are a few close-up pictures of the felled mast that I grabbed from
    the local Tyne Tees report last night, as well as one of the new 80 metre
    mast which looks *very* small in comparison...

    https://i.postimg.cc/BnR9cHFv/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m08s11.png
    https://i.postimg.cc/j50TKPq1/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m11s37.png
    https://i.postimg.cc/9F8j0vFZ/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m16s82.png

    The reason for the new temp mast looking small is because its base is
    lower than the big tube, and the picture was taken probably from the track below the site so the temp will look small.

    Have a look at the link Mark put in of the demolition yesterday and you
    will get a glimpse of the temp.

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 8 13:24:43 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <sjort5$65h$1@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff (Sofa) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> scribeth thus
    80Mtres is only a bit higher than a 5g telecom mast these days.


    Brian


    Brian the main type of roadside 5G mast now, well around our way, is 20
    to 25 Metres!.

    80 meters is quite high. We did a coverage plot of the area at that
    height and it wasn't that much different in coverage terms But i don't
    think they'll be using the same ERP!...


    FWIW Nelsons column is only 52 metres!..
    --
    Tony Sayer


    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 8 13:26:49 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <sjmm7p$c82$1@dont-email.me>, NY <me@privacy.invalid>
    scribeth thus
    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message >news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Here are a few close-up pictures of the felled mast that I grabbed from the >local Tyne Tees report last night, as well as one of the new 80 metre mast >which looks *very* small in comparison...

    https://i.postimg.cc/BnR9cHFv/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m08s11.png >https://i.postimg.cc/j50TKPq1/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m11s37.png >https://i.postimg.cc/9F8j0vFZ/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m16s82.png


    Might be a few odd salvageable panels of that lot plus the Pikey's
    scrappies will be pleased they won't have to burn the insulation off the cables;)...

    --
    Tony Sayer


    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to tony sayer on Fri Oct 8 14:32:19 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 08/10/2021 13:26, tony sayer wrote:

    Might be a few odd salvageable panels of that lot plus the Pikey's
    scrappies will be pleased they won't have to burn the insulation off the cables;)...

    Looks to me that the pair of Siras seen here:-

    http://admin.mb21.co.uk/tx/userimages/27471proc20191109024109.jpg

    Made it to the ground intact (by virtue of them on the top of the tube
    after landing)

    I'm sure they'll be repurposed for '107.4 The Lobster' or equivalent
    service, and start a new life strapped to the roof of an office block.

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 8 14:43:03 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <isavj3Fb1tmU1@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
    On 08/10/2021 13:26, tony sayer wrote:

    Might be a few odd salvageable panels of that lot plus the Pikey's
    scrappies will be pleased they won't have to burn the insulation off the
    cables;)...

    Looks to me that the pair of Siras seen here:-

    http://admin.mb21.co.uk/tx/userimages/27471proc20191109024109.jpg

    Made it to the ground intact (by virtue of them on the top of the tube
    after landing)

    I'm sure they'll be repurposed for '107.4 The Lobster' or equivalent
    service, and start a new life strapped to the roof of an office block.


    Yep weighty old things those, well built!..

    --
    Tony Sayer


    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to tony sayer on Fri Oct 8 15:02:12 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 08/10/2021 14:43, tony sayer wrote:
    In article <isavj3Fb1tmU1@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
    On 08/10/2021 13:26, tony sayer wrote:
    Might be a few odd salvageable panels of that lot plus the Pikey's
    scrappies will be pleased they won't have to burn the insulation off the >>> cables;)...
    Looks to me that the pair of Siras seen here:-

    http://admin.mb21.co.uk/tx/userimages/27471proc20191109024109.jpg

    Made it to the ground intact (by virtue of them on the top of the tube
    after landing)

    I'm sure they'll be repurposed for '107.4 The Lobster' or equivalent
    service, and start a new life strapped to the roof of an office block.

    Yep weighty old things those, well built!..

    There was one on a pole 'looking' straight into our 6th floor hotel
    window in Portugal.
    The other side of the street, about 20-30 metres away. Oh well.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to tony sayer on Fri Oct 8 14:28:39 2021
    On 08/10/2021 13:26, tony sayer wrote:
    Might be a few odd salvageable panels of that lot plus the Pikey's
    scrappies will be pleased they won't have to burn the insulation off the cables;)...

    Probably find a few bits are refurbished so they can tell everyone how
    "green" they are even if never actually re-used,

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 8 14:35:18 2021
    On 08/10/2021 14:28, MB wrote:
    On 08/10/2021 13:26, tony sayer wrote:
    Might be a few odd salvageable panels of that lot plus the Pikey's
    scrappies will be pleased they won't have to burn the insulation off the
    cables;)...

    Probably find a few bits are refurbished so they can tell everyone how "green" they are even if never actually re-used,

     Even the aircraft industry do that, after 'un-controlled' landings

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 8 17:07:56 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    A section of the mast, more or less the very bottom part, that just
    turned 90 degs and fell on the roof of one of the Tx buildings.
    The building wasn't demolished by that, and the section (maybe 15 to 20
    ft of 8ft diameter tube) is on the flat roof.

    On 08/10/2021 16:58, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    What of the accompanying building, was that knocked down too? Apparently
    that Youtube video has seen quite a few views, Many people I know have
    viewed it several times. People like to see things demolished I suppose.


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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Fri Oct 8 16:58:02 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    What of the accompanying building, was that knocked down too? Apparently
    that Youtube video has seen quite a few views, Many people I know have
    viewed it several times. People like to see things demolished I suppose.
    Brian

    --

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    Note this Signature is meaningless.!
    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:isb1b4Fbc29U1@mid.individual.net...
    On 08/10/2021 14:43, tony sayer wrote:
    In article <isavj3Fb1tmU1@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver
    <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
    On 08/10/2021 13:26, tony sayer wrote:
    Might be a few odd salvageable panels of that lot plus the Pikey's
    scrappies will be pleased they won't have to burn the insulation off
    the
    cables;)...
    Looks to me that the pair of Siras seen here:-

    http://admin.mb21.co.uk/tx/userimages/27471proc20191109024109.jpg

    Made it to the ground intact (by virtue of them on the top of the tube
    after landing)

    I'm sure they'll be repurposed for '107.4 The Lobster' or equivalent
    service, and start a new life strapped to the roof of an office block.

    Yep weighty old things those, well built!..

    There was one on a pole 'looking' straight into our 6th floor hotel window
    in Portugal.
    The other side of the street, about 20-30 metres away. Oh well.

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  • From James Heaton@21:1/5 to Davey on Fri Oct 8 19:41:35 2021
    "NY" wrote in message news:sjmlvv$aqo$1@dont-email.me...

    "Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message news:sjmj46$pci$4@dont-email.me...
    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:22:36 +0100
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Happened this morning

    https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

    Blaster Bates would have approved!
    And if you don't know who he was, then you need edificating.

    I borrowed a couple of cassettes of his talks from a friend at work many .>years ago. There's one story he told which I've never managed to find on >Youtube. It concerns Father Christmas coming down a chimney and meeting a >nubile lass who invites him into bed. He's a busy man and he's got lots
    more presents to deliver, so he resists her invitation three times, but >eventually her nakedness has the expected effect on his anatomy, and the >story ends with him saying "Sod it, I might as well stay. With this stiffy >I'll never get back up the chimney anyway."

    It's on one of the CDs as I've heard him tell it.

    Which one of the 4 I cant' tell you without some digging.

    He's a bloody genius but not for the snowflakes, there's probably about
    20mins of broadcastable material per cd. And that's including the one where
    he kills the dog after the owner didn't secure the site properly... was a retriever... you get the picture...

    James

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to James Heaton on Fri Oct 8 19:56:21 2021
    On 08/10/2021 19:41, James Heaton wrote:

    He's a bloody genius but not for the snowflakes, there's probably about 20mins of broadcastable material per cd. And that's including the one
    where
    he kills the dog after the owner didn't secure the site properly... was a retriever... you get the picture...

    <Grin> Trained to deliver to the hand. I remember that one, as well as
    many of his other stories.

    As for broadcastable now, he would probably not even be buzzed at or
    trimmed much for some of the comedy shows on Channel 4 nowadays. I was
    watching one a while ago, and they were telling what appeared to be old Morecambe and Wise jokes, "spiced up" for the modern audience by adding
    the "F" word to every feed and punch line. A lot of snowflakes would get offended, probably, but that was deliberate and part of his humour.

    He used to do talks at the WI, and moderated his act accordingly.


    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to James Heaton on Fri Oct 8 22:20:40 2021
    On 08/10/2021 19:41, James Heaton wrote:
    He's a bloody genius but not for the snowflakes, there's probably about 20mins of broadcastable material per cd. And that's including the one where he kills the dog after the owner didn't secure the site properly... was a retriever... you get the picture...

    Seems to be something about people working with explosive. Years ago I
    was in the same digs as some doing the blasting on a new road.

    He told me that he cleared a harbour in the Channel Islands, blowing up
    any projecting rocks on the bottom. The divers surfaced and told him
    they had found a large WWII bomb. If he had reported it, they would
    have had to stop works for days whilst a RN EOD was sent out. They
    would just take it out to sea and blow it up.

    So they carried on working as normal and at the end of the week when
    they fired the charges in the harbour there was a much larger explosion
    than expected. He just commented that there must have been a bomb in
    the harbour but the local police were very suspicious!

    If you can get hold of any copies, Ragnar Benson's books are interesting!

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sat Oct 9 11:00:20 2021
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    Cannot have done it much good though, I'd have thought, its hardly a bit of
    old drainpipe after all.

    So how did they build the mast in the first place with all that aerial stuff
    on the top and cabling inside?

    Brian

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    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:isb8msFcodrU1@mid.individual.net...
    A section of the mast, more or less the very bottom part, that just turned
    90 degs and fell on the roof of one of the Tx buildings.
    The building wasn't demolished by that, and the section (maybe 15 to 20 ft
    of 8ft diameter tube) is on the flat roof.

    On 08/10/2021 16:58, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    What of the accompanying building, was that knocked down too? Apparently
    that Youtube video has seen quite a few views, Many people I know have
    viewed it several times. People like to see things demolished I suppose.




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