In a modern TV camera, do all the pixel values of a frame reflect the illumination at a single moment, or are they values varying over the
time of a single frame, so that the bottom line is later than the
first?
On 11/07/2022 13:40, Richard Tobin wrote:
In a modern TV camera, do all the pixel values of a frame reflect the
illumination at a single moment, or are they values varying over the
time of a single frame, so that the bottom line is later than the
first?
Well, now, that opens a huge rabbit hole on the topic of Global or Rolling shutters !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter
<https://www.alliedvision.com/en/news/detail/sensor-shutter-modes-rolling-shutter-vs-global-shutter/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwlK-WBhDjARIsAO2sErROzhUf0KjWwLVoH0PYFB3UTdI-aGQ4Du2wkrax1DH8AoCGB42KR7UaAi28EALw_wcB>
I always thought that semiconductor cameras were merely moving memory
about in silicon. Every chunk is a frame, and its then handled from the place it has gone to depending on the system that is used. One assumes as
you can now get extremely fast frame rates for video cameras, that this is dictated by how fast memory can be copied and processed.
The concept of the shutter type is a mechanical construct. I remember many years ago watching a picture load into a zx Spectrum. The screen was
divided into three, and the first row of pixels in the first third filled
in etc, till that third was occupied, but no colour was there yet. then
the second, then the third and finally the colour. It appears that this
was the way the hardware was designed and so you were stuck with it as it was, but later on when the machine had a second screen, you could hide the screens and sequence the completed ones as an animation, just by switching the page of memory you were using mapped to the screen.
I always thought that semiconductor cameras were merely moving memory about in silicon. Every chunk is a frame, and its then handled from the place it has gone to depending on the system that is used. One assumes as you can now get extremely fast frame rates for video cameras, that this is dictated by how fast memory can be copied and processed.
Brian
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:40:59 +0000 (UTC), richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
(Richard Tobin) wrote:
In a modern TV camera, do all the pixel values of a frame reflect the >>illumination at a single moment, or are they values varying over the
time of a single frame, so that the bottom line is later than the
first?
-- Richard
I've seen too many distorted aeroplane propellers to think that the
whole frame represents one instant in time.
"Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:51grchli30np3qseumg1mkrtecjj9r25r8@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:40:59 +0000 (UTC), richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
(Richard Tobin) wrote:
In a modern TV camera, do all the pixel values of a frame reflect the >>>illumination at a single moment, or are they values varying over the
time of a single frame, so that the bottom line is later than the
first?
-- Richard
I've seen too many distorted aeroplane propellers to think that the
whole frame represents one instant in time.
That's exacerbated by the fact that many mini cameras mounted on aeroplane windows to show a TV presenter can only adjust the exposure by varying the shutter speed, because they have a primitive fixed-iris lens. This means
that you get *sharp* images of the disjointed propeller blades rather than blurred ones with a 1/25 sec shutter speed.
Besides, the definition of a single moment is meaningless everything takes >time or we would be in the present for ever.
In article <tam135$2avon$1@dont-email.me>,
Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
Besides, the definition of a single moment is meaningless everything takes >> time or we would be in the present for ever.How long does 6 o'clock last?
In article <tam135$2avon$1@dont-email.me>,
Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
Besides, the definition of a single moment is meaningless everything takes >>time or we would be in the present for ever.
How long does 6 o'clock last?
-- Richard
In article <tam135$2avon$1@dont-email.me>,
Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
Besides, the definition of a single moment is meaningless everything takes >> time or we would be in the present for ever.
How long does 6 o'clock last?
-- Richard
On 13/07/2022 10:54, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <tam135$2avon$1@dont-email.me>,
Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
Besides, the definition of a single moment is meaningless everything takes >> time or we would be in the present for ever.
How long does 6 o'clock last?
-- Richard
If time suddenly reversed would we know?
On 13/07/2022 10:54, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <tam135$2avon$1@dont-email.me>,
Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
Besides, the definition of a single moment is meaningless everything
takes
time or we would be in the present for ever.
How long does 6 o'clock last?
-- Richard
If time suddenly reversed would we know?
Bill
Yes all the dog mess would reverse back into the dogs.
"williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
If time suddenly reversed would we know?
Bill
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