I mean they have the so called watch dog role, but no teeth. The state of AD even on terrestrial is going backward, Series that had it on first time
round have lost it, and the streaming channels have in many ways just stuck two fingers up at the ruling. TV set makers seem to have no binding law to keep their apps updated so they stay accessible over the life of the TV.
Then there is their interference investigation and enforcement side. In them old days they could take away devices like noisy psus and over the mains internet devices and force telecoms services to stop broadcasting crap from their wires, but now you just get a, thanks for letting us know and never hear any more
One day somebody will need to use the lower frequencies for something and find it full of crap.
Brian
On 02/07/2022 10:41, Tony Gamble wrote:
On 25/06/2022 10:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
I mean they have the so called watch dog role, but no teeth. The
state of AD
even on terrestrial is going backward, Series that had it on first time
round have lost it, and the streaming channels have in many ways
just stuck
two fingers up at the ruling. TV set makers seem to have no binding
law to
keep their apps updated so they stay accessible over the life of the TV. >>> Then there is their interference investigation and enforcement
side. In
them old days they could take away devices like noisy psus and over the >>> mains internet devices and force telecoms services to stop
broadcasting crap
from their wires, but now you just get a, thanks for letting us know and >>> never hear any more
One day somebody will need to use the lower frequencies for
something and
find it full of crap.
And how are they helping the viewing public by allowing broadcasters
to increase the amount of advertising in each hour?
I have yet to come across a viewer who told me there were not enough ads.
Would those viewers rather see programmes dropped and more repeats? Or channels close?
Ofcom, like other regulators, has to have regard to the commercial realities. And I think Ofcom set out clearly in their Small Screen: Big Debate statement the pressures on PSBs which justify looking at changes
in the amount and form of advertising.
On 25/06/2022 10:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
I mean they have the so called watch dog role, but no teeth. The state
of AD
even on terrestrial is going backward, Series that had it on first time
round have lost it, and the streaming channels have in many ways just
stuck
two fingers up at the ruling. TV set makers seem to have no binding
law to
keep their apps updated so they stay accessible over the life of the TV.
Then there is their interference investigation and enforcement side. In >> them old days they could take away devices like noisy psus and over the
mains internet devices and force telecoms services to stop
broadcasting crap
from their wires, but now you just get a, thanks for letting us know and
never hear any more
One day somebody will need to use the lower frequencies for
something and
find it full of crap.
Brian
And how are they helping the viewing public by allowing broadcasters to increase the amount of advertising in each hour?
I have yet to come across a viewer who told me there were not enough ads.
On 02/07/2022 11:16, Robin wrote:
On 02/07/2022 10:41, Tony Gamble wrote:
On 25/06/2022 10:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
I mean they have the so called watch dog role, but no teeth. The
state of AD
even on terrestrial is going backward, Series that had it on first time >>>> round have lost it, and the streaming channels have in many ways
just stuck
two fingers up at the ruling. TV set makers seem to have no binding
law to
keep their apps updated so they stay accessible over the life of the
TV.
Then there is their interference investigation and enforcement
side. In
them old days they could take away devices like noisy psus and over
the
mains internet devices and force telecoms services to stop
broadcasting crap
from their wires, but now you just get a, thanks for letting us know
and
never hear any more
One day somebody will need to use the lower frequencies for
something and
find it full of crap.
And how are they helping the viewing public by allowing broadcasters
to increase the amount of advertising in each hour?
I have yet to come across a viewer who told me there were not enough
ads.
Would those viewers rather see programmes dropped and more repeats? Or
channels close?
Ofcom, like other regulators, has to have regard to the commercial
realities. And I think Ofcom set out clearly in their Small Screen:
Big Debate statement the pressures on PSBs which justify looking at
changes in the amount and form of advertising.
They don't know what the "commercial realities" are except what they are
told in their no doubt cosy meetings, probably after a nice lunch with
wine.
Would those viewers rather see programmes dropped and more repeats? Or channels close?
On 02/07/2022 11:16, Robin wrote:
Would those viewers rather see programmes dropped and more repeats? Or
channels close?
When was the last UK TV broadcaster to go bust?
Don't take Ofgem as your model:) In a well-regulated public service
sector companies won't go bust. They may quietly merge or be taken
over. And look how many companies hold Channel 3 licences today.
Who thought that sponsorship messages either side of the ad break were a
good idea?
On 25/06/2022 10:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
I mean they have the so called watch dog role, but no teeth. The state of AD >> even on terrestrial is going backward, Series that had it on first time
round have lost it, and the streaming channels have in many ways just stuck >> two fingers up at the ruling. TV set makers seem to have no binding law to >> keep their apps updated so they stay accessible over the life of the TV.
Then there is their interference investigation and enforcement side. In
them old days they could take away devices like noisy psus and over the
mains internet devices and force telecoms services to stop broadcasting crap >> from their wires, but now you just get a, thanks for letting us know and
never hear any more
One day somebody will need to use the lower frequencies for something and >> find it full of crap.
Brian
And how are they helping the viewing public by allowing broadcasters to >increase the amount of advertising in each hour?
I have yet to come across a viewer who told me there were not enough ads.
Tony
On 02/07/2022 11:16, Robin wrote:
Would those viewers rather see programmes dropped and more repeats? Or
channels close?
When was the last UK TV broadcaster to go bust?
They seem to be able to give far higher salaries than the BBC hence
various people leaving the BBC.
It's slightly more difficult to skip over sponsorship messages
especially when the duration of the messages vary. I have to use fast
forward rather than fix time skips.
I have always said that advertising is a very inefficient way to fund >television and probably costs viewers more than the TV Licence but just >hidden in the costs of everything you buy.
On 25/06/2022 10:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
I mean they have the so called watch dog role, but no teeth. The state of
AD
even on terrestrial is going backward, Series that had it on first time
round have lost it, and the streaming channels have in many ways just
stuck
two fingers up at the ruling. TV set makers seem to have no binding law
to
keep their apps updated so they stay accessible over the life of the TV.
Then there is their interference investigation and enforcement side. In
them old days they could take away devices like noisy psus and over the
mains internet devices and force telecoms services to stop broadcasting
crap
from their wires, but now you just get a, thanks for letting us know and
never hear any more
One day somebody will need to use the lower frequencies for something
and
find it full of crap.
Brian
And how are they helping the viewing public by allowing broadcasters to increase the amount of advertising in each hour?
I have yet to come across a viewer who told me there were not enough ads.
Tony
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 at 11:31:10, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
On 02/07/2022 11:16, Robin wrote:I was a little surprised earlier today, on selecting channel 69 on
Would those viewers rather see programmes dropped and more repeats? Or
channels close?
When was the last UK TV broadcaster to go bust?
They seem to be able to give far higher salaries than the BBC hence
various people leaving the BBC.
FreeView, to get
CBS Justice has now closed.
Continue watching more of your
favourite shows from our sister channels
CBS reality on channel 67, Legend on channel 41,
and RealityXtra on channel 68.
Thank you for watching.
OK, this is probably _not_ a going bust, but it _is_ unusual; _usually_,
when they're paying musical chairs with FreeView LCNs, there's a popup
on the channel for a few days beforehand.
On checking the Radio Times, it _was_ known about in advance, as it was
there on Wednesday's pages but not Thursday's (the RT has at least a fortnight's publication lag) - but for once there was no on-screen
warning (or if there was, I didn't see it).
--
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labor..." - Harlan Ellison
On 02/07/2022 10:41, Tony Gamble wrote:
On 25/06/2022 10:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
I mean they have the so called watch dog role, but no teeth. The state
of AD
even on terrestrial is going backward, Series that had it on first time
round have lost it, and the streaming channels have in many ways just
stuck
two fingers up at the ruling. TV set makers seem to have no binding law
to
keep their apps updated so they stay accessible over the life of the TV. >>> Then there is their interference investigation and enforcement side. In
them old days they could take away devices like noisy psus and over the
mains internet devices and force telecoms services to stop broadcasting
crap
from their wires, but now you just get a, thanks for letting us know and >>> never hear any more
One day somebody will need to use the lower frequencies for something
and
find it full of crap.
Brian
And how are they helping the viewing public by allowing broadcasters to
increase the amount of advertising in each hour?
I have yet to come across a viewer who told me there were not enough ads.
Would those viewers rather see programmes dropped and more repeats? Or channels close?
Ofcom, like other regulators, has to have regard to the commercial
realities. And I think Ofcom set out clearly in their Small Screen: Big Debate statement the pressures on PSBs which justify looking at changes in the amount and form of advertising.
--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 at 11:31:10, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
On 02/07/2022 11:16, Robin wrote:I was a little surprised earlier today, on selecting channel 69 on
Would those viewers rather see programmes dropped and more repeats? OrWhen was the last UK TV broadcaster to go bust?
channels close?
They seem to be able to give far higher salaries than the BBC hence
various people leaving the BBC.
FreeView, to get
CBS Justice has now closed.
Surely they must realise with all the advertising on the web and everywhere you go in life these days, people are probably just ignoring them.
I think RT decided to jump before they were pushed.No they didn't.
On 02/07/2022 11:25, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/07/2022 11:16, Robin wrote:
Ofcom, like other regulators, has to have regard to the commercial
realities. And I think Ofcom set out clearly in their Small Screen:
Big Debate statement the pressures on PSBs which justify looking at
changes in the amount and form of advertising.
They don't know what the "commercial realities" are except what they
are told in their no doubt cosy meetings, probably after a nice lunch
with wine.
Do you think Ofcom are incapable of looking at their accounts to see
things like the revenues from advertising,? And at market rates for advertising? At the costs of producing programmes? At numbers of
viewers? At comparators in other commercial broadcasters (not to
mention the BBC)?
Do you think the figures in the SS:BD statement (eg for increases in
SVoD subs and decreases in ad revenue) were invented?
It is crap.
We have too many channels all running repeats of things from other channels now.The phrase new to Yesterday, for example really means the main channels have repeated it so often they can let us run it for peanuts.
Surely they must realise with all the advertising on the web and everywhere
you go in life these days, people are probably just ignoring them.
Brian
I think RT decided to jump before they were pushed. That is politics and to >my mind is definitely not what one might expect in a free society.[]
On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 at 10:59:43, Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote
(my responses usually FOLLOW):
[]
Surely they must realise with all the advertising on the web andI'm sure they aren't just blindly pouring money down a well. They will
everywhere
you go in life these days, people are probably just ignoring them.
Brian
be measuring the effectiveness of their advertising. They're not that
dim; they're businesses.
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 01:49:30 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 at 10:59:43, Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote
(my responses usually FOLLOW):
[]
Surely they must realise with all the advertising on the web andI'm sure they aren't just blindly pouring money down a well. They will
everywhere
you go in life these days, people are probably just ignoring them.
Brian
be measuring the effectiveness of their advertising. They're not that
dim; they're businesses.
Jobs for the boys.
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 01:49:30 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 at 10:59:43, Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote
(my responses usually FOLLOW):
[]
Surely they must realise with all the advertising on the web andI'm sure they aren't just blindly pouring money down a well. They will
everywhere
you go in life these days, people are probably just ignoring them.
Brian
be measuring the effectiveness of their advertising. They're not that
dim; they're businesses.
Jobs for the boys.
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