• Premature Finish

    From Tweed@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 5 07:11:41 2022
    Last night’s broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the
    BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a
    few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to trailers. Had shades of “right lads, it’s 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug”

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Tweed on Sun Jun 5 09:04:45 2022
    On 05/06/2022 08:11, Tweed wrote:
    Last night’s broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the
    BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a
    few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to trailers. Had shades of “right lads, it’s 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug”

    Isn't there a 22:30h end to a lot of events in London?

    I think there have been previous concerts that have had to finish
    quickly to avoid a fine.

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 5 10:14:00 2022
    On 05/06/2022 09:04, MB wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 08:11, Tweed wrote:
    Last night’s broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was >> expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the
    BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a
    few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to
    trailers. Had
    shades of “right lads, it’s 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug”

    Isn't there a 22:30h end to a lot of events in London?

    I think there have been previous concerts that have had to finish
    quickly to avoid a fine.

    On the French version of MSN, Diana Ross finished her set in a very
    predictable manner, though they cut the applause short.

    I couldn't watch it live as I was waiting for some people to come out of
    a Red Hot Chilli Pipers gig at the tine...

    https://www.msn.com/fr-fr/divertissement/actualite/diana-ross-the-platinum-jubilee-concert-4-june-2022/vi-AAY566B
    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From Tweed@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sun Jun 5 08:18:11 2022
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 08:11, Tweed wrote:
    Last night’s broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was >> expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the
    BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a
    few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to trailers. Had >> shades of “right lads, it’s 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug”

    Isn't there a 22:30h end to a lot of events in London?

    I think there have been previous concerts that have had to finish
    quickly to avoid a fine.



    The concert hadn’t properly finished - it was the TV coverage that did a swift exit. There wasn’t even any proper end credits.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Tweed on Sun Jun 5 10:32:35 2022
    On 05/06/2022 09:18, Tweed wrote:
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 08:11, Tweed wrote:
    Last night’s broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was >>> expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the >>> BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a >>> few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to trailers. Had >>> shades of “right lads, it’s 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug”
    Isn't there a 22:30h end to a lot of events in London?

    I think there have been previous concerts that have had to finish
    quickly to avoid a fine.


    The concert hadn’t properly finished - it was the TV coverage that did a swift exit. There wasn’t even any proper end credits.

    It was odd, because as noted in other threads, the BBC usually love
    about an hour or so of idle chit chat before and after any event.

    The show itself had to end at 22:30 hrs, that's normal for large outdoor concerts, to avoid waking up local residents (err, hang on)

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  • From Tweed@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sun Jun 5 09:50:00 2022
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 09:18, Tweed wrote:
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 08:11, Tweed wrote:
    Last night’s broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was
    expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the >>>> BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a >>>> few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to trailers. Had
    shades of “right lads, it’s 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug”
    Isn't there a 22:30h end to a lot of events in London?

    I think there have been previous concerts that have had to finish
    quickly to avoid a fine.


    The concert hadn’t properly finished - it was the TV coverage that did a >> swift exit. There wasn’t even any proper end credits.

    It was odd, because as noted in other threads, the BBC usually love
    about an hour or so of idle chit chat before and after any event.

    The show itself had to end at 22:30 hrs, that's normal for large outdoor concerts, to avoid waking up local residents (err, hang on)


    Someone not paid for the links after 2230?

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 5 11:16:58 2022
    In article <t7hu88$r5a$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 09:18, Tweed wrote:
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 08:11, Tweed wrote:
    Last nights broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than
    I was expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement
    why did the BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had
    Diana Ross then a few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and
    then off to trailers. Had shades of right lads, its 2230, no
    overtime being paid, pull the plug
    Isn't there a 22:30h end to a lot of events in London?

    I think there have been previous concerts that have had to finish
    quickly to avoid a fine.


    The concert hadnt properly finished - it was the TV coverage that did
    a swift exit. There wasnt even any proper end credits.

    It was odd, because as noted in other threads, the BBC usually love
    about an hour or so of idle chit chat before and after any event.

    The show itself had to end at 22:30 hrs, that's normal for large
    outdoor concerts, to avoid waking up local residents (err, hang on)


    Someone not paid for the links after 2230?

    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    --
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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Tweed on Sun Jun 5 17:09:01 2022
    A lot of people said that to me as well, it was a bit like the end of the
    world came.
    I was also thinking about having it annually to see who is still alive
    this year.
    Also, I obviously did not see the thing visually, but lots of questions
    about pictures in the sky. Would I be right in thinking this is about 500 drones with LEDs all flying in formation?
    Brian

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    "Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t7hkvc$38j$1@dont-email.me...
    Last night's broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the
    BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a
    few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to trailers.
    Had
    shades of "right lads, it's 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug"


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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to charles on Sun Jun 5 19:14:45 2022
    On 05/06/2022 11:16, charles wrote:
    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    It still does actually. Belfast, Glasgow, and Cardiff all each have an
    HD OB truck, BBC Radio still operate them (they have five I think ?) and
    a lot of the news vans are still in house too.

    Not that anything alters the fact the fibre routes for events in London
    all pass through the BT Tower these days, and your connection has
    bookable 'time limits' !

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  • From Tweed@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sun Jun 5 18:28:09 2022
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 11:16, charles wrote:
    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    It still does actually. Belfast, Glasgow, and Cardiff all each have an
    HD OB truck, BBC Radio still operate them (they have five I think ?) and
    a lot of the news vans are still in house too.

    Not that anything alters the fact the fibre routes for events in London
    all pass through the BT Tower these days, and your connection has
    bookable 'time limits' !




    Shame nobody thought to book a bit extra for potential late running.

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sun Jun 5 20:11:58 2022
    In article <jg4a4kFt6dnU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 11:16, charles wrote:
    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    It still does actually. Belfast, Glasgow, and Cardiff all each have an
    HD OB truck, BBC Radio still operate them (they have five I think ?) and
    a lot of the news vans are still in house too.

    Yes, but London TV OBs got sold off and they are the ones who would have covered these prestige events - with possible help from the regions..


    Not that anything alters the fact the fibre routes for events in London
    all pass through the BT Tower these days, and your connection has
    bookable 'time limits' !

    Gone are days of the BBC's 'own' cable network.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Tweed on Sun Jun 5 20:12:39 2022
    In article <t7isjp$bbj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 11:16, charles wrote:
    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    It still does actually. Belfast, Glasgow, and Cardiff all each have an
    HD OB truck, BBC Radio still operate them (they have five I think ?)
    and a lot of the news vans are still in house too.

    Not that anything alters the fact the fibre routes for events in London
    all pass through the BT Tower these days, and your connection has
    bookable 'time limits' !




    Shame nobody thought to book a bit extra for potential late running.

    accountants rule KO?

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Chris J Dixon@21:1/5 to Tweed on Sun Jun 5 21:33:36 2022
    Tweed wrote:

    Last nights broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was >expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the
    BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a
    few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to trailers. Had >shades of right lads, its 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug

    I noticed that today's procession coverage similarly ended
    without any credits. Curious.

    Chris
    --
    Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
    chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

    Plant amazing Acers.

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 5 22:20:20 2022
    In article <jg3aeqFo0aeU1@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> scribeth thus
    On 05/06/2022 09:04, MB wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 08:11, Tweed wrote:
    Last night’s broadcast from outside Buck House was much better than I was >>> expecting, especially the light shows. But in its excitement why did the >>> BBC finish the broadcast so quickly? One moment we had Diana Ross then a >>> few seconds of a caption (no rolling credits) and then off to
    trailers. Had
    shades of “right lads, it’s 2230, no overtime being paid, pull the plug”

    Isn't there a 22:30h end to a lot of events in London?

    I think there have been previous concerts that have had to finish
    quickly to avoid a fine.

    On the French version of MSN, Diana Ross finished her set in a very >predictable manner, though they cut the applause short.

    I couldn't watch it live as I was waiting for some people to come out of
    a Red Hot Chilli Pipers gig at the tine...

    https://www.msn.com/fr-fr/divertissement/actualite/diana-ross-the-platinum- >jubilee-concert-4-june-2022/vi-AAY566B

    Is it me or did someone screw up the mix?, her voice sounded a bit quiet
    and weak it seemed she was trying to alter something on her radio mic
    monitor on stage?.

    Still fine performance by a grand dame of pop!, almost 80 years old so
    much better then wheeling out Macca!..
    --
    Tony Sayer


    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 5 22:16:34 2022
    In article <59f3ed7985charles@candehope.me.uk>, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> scribeth thus
    In article <t7isjp$bbj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 11:16, charles wrote:
    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    It still does actually. Belfast, Glasgow, and Cardiff all each have an
    HD OB truck, BBC Radio still operate them (they have five I think ?)
    and a lot of the news vans are still in house too.

    Not that anything alters the fact the fibre routes for events in London
    all pass through the BT Tower these days, and your connection has
    bookable 'time limits' !




    Shame nobody thought to book a bit extra for potential late running.

    accountants rule KO?


    Wouldn't have happened if Henry the 8th had been on the throne !...

    Thats if they really wanted to keep their heads!..

    --
    Tony Sayer


    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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  • From steve@swingnn.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 6 15:41:00 2022
    On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 17:09:01 +0100, "Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Would I be right in thinking this is about 500
    drones with LEDs all flying in formation?
    Brian

    I think it was done with projections on the palace plus 700 drones
    doing amazingly good formations. The controlling software must have
    been rather complex or was it all done by a few hundred volunteers
    hands.

    --
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    JustNN Just a neural network http://www.justnn.com EasyNN-plus More than just a neural network http://www.easynn.com
    SwingNN Prediction software http://www.swingnn.com


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  • From Dickie mint@21:1/5 to charles on Mon Jun 6 15:28:12 2022
    On 05/06/2022 20:11, charles wrote:

    Gone are days of the BBC's 'own' cable network.

    The good old Loco!

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Dickie mint on Mon Jun 6 17:48:57 2022
    In article <jg6h7sFa090U1@mid.individual.net>,
    Dickie mint <richard_taylor01@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 20:11, charles wrote:

    Gone are days of the BBC's 'own' cable network.

    The good old Loco!

    among others

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Paul Ratcliffe@21:1/5 to charles@candehope.me.uk on Tue Jun 7 17:59:18 2022
    On Sun, 05 Jun 2022 11:16:58 +0100, charles
    <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    I rather beg to differ.

    Anyway, it depends what you define as OB kit.

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  • From Paul Ratcliffe@21:1/5 to charles on Tue Jun 7 18:14:24 2022
    On Sun, 05 Jun 2022 20:11:58 +0100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    Not that anything alters the fact the fibre routes for events in London
    all pass through the BT Tower these days, and your connection has
    bookable 'time limits' !

    Gone are days of the BBC's 'own' cable network.

    How do you know they don't have a modern IP contribution network?

    Would you like to know how many Megabits are currently being used
    for something like Springwatch?
    When I looked at the routers about half an hour ago the two links
    were running at about (Mbps) 256 RX / 130 TX and 253 RX / 64 TX.

    Scanner output (in our car park) goes on conventional HD-SDI fibre
    circuits even though it's all done as IP over BT's infrastructure.

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Paul Ratcliffe on Tue Jun 7 20:00:30 2022
    In article <slrnt9v4fm.1fi8.abuse@news.pr.network>,
    Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> wrote:
    On Sun, 05 Jun 2022 11:16:58 +0100, charles
    <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    I rather beg to differ.

    Anyway, it depends what you define as OB kit.

    I was thinking of the vehicles, etc, that lived at Kendal Avenue

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78 on Tue Jun 7 20:51:35 2022
    In article <slrnt9v5c0.1fi8.abuse@news.pr.network>, Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> wrote:
    On Sun, 05 Jun 2022 20:11:58 +0100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:

    Not that anything alters the fact the fibre routes for events in
    London all pass through the BT Tower these days, and your connection
    has bookable 'time limits' !

    Gone are days of the BBC's 'own' cable network.

    How do you know they don't have a modern IP contribution network?

    I was thinking abut all those bits of co-ax under the London streets. Yes,
    I know there is a national distribution/contribution system

    Would you like to know how many Megabits are currently being used for something like Springwatch? When I looked at the routers about half an
    hour ago the two links were running at about (Mbps) 256 RX / 130 TX and
    253 RX / 64 TX.

    Scanner output (in our car park) goes on conventional HD-SDI fibre
    circuits even though it's all done as IP over BT's infrastructure.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 7 22:17:58 2022
    In article <slrnt9v4fm.1fi8.abuse@news.pr.network>, Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> scribeth thus
    On Sun, 05 Jun 2022 11:16:58 +0100, charles
    <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -

    I rather beg to differ.

    Anyway, it depends what you define as OB kit.


    Radio surely, theres one o pops up her in Cambridge for Xmas;?...

    --
    Tony Sayer


    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to tony sayer on Wed Jun 8 08:44:43 2022
    On 07/06/2022 22:17, tony sayer wrote:
    In article <slrnt9v4fm.1fi8.abuse@news.pr.network>, Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> scribeth thus
    On Sun, 05 Jun 2022 11:16:58 +0100, charles
    <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    remember the BBC doesn't own any OB kit -
    I rather beg to differ.

    Anyway, it depends what you define as OB kit.

    Radio surely, theres one o pops up her in Cambridge for Xmas;?...

    Does anybody bother to read the whole thread first,  before making a
    post these days ?

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  • From Paul Ratcliffe@21:1/5 to tony sayer on Thu Jun 9 23:22:18 2022
    On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 22:20:20 +0100, tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:

    https://www.msn.com/fr-fr/divertissement/actualite/diana-ross-the-platinum- >>jubilee-concert-4-june-2022/vi-AAY566B

    Is it me or did someone screw up the mix?

    The Sunday afternoon thing was certainly weird for quite a while at the
    start. All commentators and hardly any FX.

    The Saturday evening thing was odd in several places. The dreadful echo
    on Lee Mack for one.

    Think I preferred 2002, but that may be nostalgia.

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  • From Chris J Dixon@21:1/5 to Paul Ratcliffe on Fri Jun 10 08:48:08 2022
    Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

    On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 22:20:20 +0100, tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:

    https://www.msn.com/fr-fr/divertissement/actualite/diana-ross-the-platinum- >>>jubilee-concert-4-june-2022/vi-AAY566B

    Is it me or did someone screw up the mix?

    The Sunday afternoon thing was certainly weird for quite a while at the >start. All commentators and hardly any FX.

    The Saturday evening thing was odd in several places. The dreadful echo
    on Lee Mack for one.

    There was a strange moment on the Sunday evening compilation
    programme. When they played the Paddington excerpt, it began with
    the sound track doubled with a delay. They managed to kill one of
    the sounds, but it was the wrong one. Eventually they got it
    right. It seemed pretty unusual for a pre-recorded broadcast.

    Chris
    --
    Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
    chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

    Plant amazing Acers.

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to Chris J Dixon on Fri Jun 10 16:23:52 2022
    On 10/06/2022 08:48, Chris J Dixon wrote:

    There was a strange moment on the Sunday evening compilation
    programme. When they played the Paddington excerpt, it began with
    the sound track doubled with a delay. They managed to kill one of
    the sounds, but it was the wrong one. Eventually they got it
    right. It seemed pretty unusual for a pre-recorded broadcast.

    Chris

    Yes, that's exactly what happened. I'm glad you posted. I was beginning
    to suspect that I was losing my marbles.

    Bill

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Chris J Dixon on Fri Jun 10 17:30:36 2022
    On 10/06/2022 08:48, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

    On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 22:20:20 +0100, tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:

    https://www.msn.com/fr-fr/divertissement/actualite/diana-ross-the-platinum-
    jubilee-concert-4-june-2022/vi-AAY566B
    Is it me or did someone screw up the mix?
    The Sunday afternoon thing was certainly weird for quite a while at the
    start. All commentators and hardly any FX.

    The Saturday evening thing was odd in several places. The dreadful echo
    on Lee Mack for one.
    There was a strange moment on the Sunday evening compilation
    programme. When they played the Paddington excerpt, it began with
    the sound track doubled with a delay. They managed to kill one of
    the sounds, but it was the wrong one. Eventually they got it
    right. It seemed pretty unusual for a pre-recorded broadcast.

    Could have been the audio routing from the server play-out the
    compilation, likely it was played out from one of the many OB trucks on
    site, and there will have been a multitude of different routing routes
    for audio and video !

    Some people seem to think that that Paddington video was a 'deep fake'
    CGI rendering ?  (The Queen of course, obviously not the bear)

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Fri Jun 10 18:48:37 2022
    On 10/06/2022 17:30, Mark Carver wrote:

    Some people seem to think that that Paddington video was a 'deep fake'
    CGI rendering ? (The Queen of course, obviously not the bear)

    Probably at least as valid as the James Bond and parachute sequence in
    2012 at the Olympics.

    Who cares anyway? It was certainly approved by Her Majesty, even if they
    used an actress to play her part.

    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to johnwilliamson@btinternet.com on Fri Jun 10 20:51:43 2022
    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 at 18:48:37, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
    On 10/06/2022 17:30, Mark Carver wrote:

    Some people seem to think that that Paddington video was a 'deep fake'
    CGI rendering ? (The Queen of course, obviously not the bear)

    My first thought was that it was; some very minor aspects I'd be hard
    pressed to define.

    Probably at least as valid as the James Bond and parachute sequence in
    2012 at the Olympics.

    Who cares anyway? It was certainly approved by Her Majesty, even if
    they used an actress to play her part.

    It was fun. (Though I was sad we've moved to the American need for something/someone to make a mess.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    The desire to remain private and/or anonymous used to be a core British value, but in recent times it has been treated with suspicion - an unfortunate by- product of the widespread desire for fame. - Chris Middleton,
    Computing 6 September 2011

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to G6JPG@255soft.uk on Fri Jun 10 22:15:36 2022
    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:LYwixmXPD6oiFwzZ@a.a...
    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 at 18:48:37, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
    On 10/06/2022 17:30, Mark Carver wrote:

    Some people seem to think that that Paddington video was a 'deep fake'
    CGI rendering ? (The Queen of course, obviously not the bear)

    So you're saying that the Queen may have been CGI or an actress, but
    Paddington was real ;-)

    My first thought was that it was; some very minor aspects I'd be hard
    pressed to define.

    Probably at least as valid as the James Bond and parachute sequence in
    2012 at the Olympics.

    Who cares anyway? It was certainly approved by Her Majesty, even if they >>used an actress to play her part.

    It was fun. (Though I was sad we've moved to the American need for something/someone to make a mess.)

    Yes I could see the fumbling of the teapot and the squidging of the cream
    cake coming a mile off, followed by the shot of narrow-eyed Simon Farnaby as the equerry wiping a splatter of cream off his cheek. But the kiddies will
    have through it was funny.

    It's a good thing no-one made a last minute change to the use of the
    drummers playing the intro to We Will Rock You. The tie-in with the
    teaspoons was brilliant - and it was the Queen who started that, not Paddington.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 11 07:37:31 2022
    The Daily Mail has an article today on the people who did the drone display.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10905323/JENNY-JOHNSTON-Meet-team-dazzling-Jubilee-light-show.html

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 11 10:02:56 2022
    On 10/06/2022 22:15, NY wrote:
    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:LYwixmXPD6oiFwzZ@a.a...
    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 at 18:48:37, John Williamson
    <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
    On 10/06/2022 17:30, Mark Carver wrote:

    Some people seem to think that that Paddington video was a 'deep fake' >>>> CGI rendering ? (The Queen of course, obviously not the bear)

    So you're saying that the Queen may have been CGI or an actress, but Paddington was real ;-)

    Of course Paddington was real. How cold anyone think otherwise?
    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 11 12:45:38 2022
    On 11/06/2022 12:11, NY wrote:
    "MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t81d7a$bo8$1@dont-email.me...
    The Daily Mail has an article today on the people who did the drone
    display.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10905323/JENNY-JOHNSTON-Meet-team-dazzling-Jubilee-light-show.html


    Calendar, the ITV local news for the various Yorkshire regions, had an interview with the creator a few days ago. He said that testing was very difficult because it would have given the game away, so they had to do
    the testing in some very remote (and unidentified!!!) location.

    Since most of us could only watch it on TV it might as well have been CGI.

    Shades of, "Watch the 1999 solar eclipse on TV or you'll go blind!" and
    "Watch the millennium fireworks on TV or you'll be crushed to death or
    fall in the Thames!"

    We're not encouraged to have authentic experiences.

    --
    Max Demian

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sat Jun 11 12:11:28 2022
    "MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t81d7a$bo8$1@dont-email.me...
    The Daily Mail has an article today on the people who did the drone
    display.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10905323/JENNY-JOHNSTON-Meet-team-dazzling-Jubilee-light-show.html

    Calendar, the ITV local news for the various Yorkshire regions, had an interview with the creator a few days ago. He said that testing was very difficult because it would have given the game away, so they had to do the testing in some very remote (and unidentified!!!) location.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 11 12:14:27 2022
    On 11/06/2022 12:11, NY wrote:
    Calendar, the ITV local news for the various Yorkshire regions, had an interview with the creator a few days ago. He said that testing was very difficult because it would have given the game away, so they had to do the testing in some very remote (and unidentified!!!) location.

    The Mail article says they did the full scale test on a Yorkshire farm

    They did a few small scale trials at Buckingham Palace itself.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to williamwright on Sat Jun 11 12:14:19 2022
    "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message news:jgjao1Ff8scU2@mid.individual.net...
    On 11/06/2022 10:02, John Williamson wrote:
    Of course Paddington was real. How could anyone think otherwise?

    He was born in an old transport cafe near here.

    No he wasn't! How can you spoil the story that he was born in Darkest Peru? Michael Bond, the creator, was a cameraman (not sure whether film or studio) for Blue Peter, which is why the Blue Peter annuals used to have a
    Paddington story in them.

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Sat Jun 11 11:57:04 2022
    On 11/06/2022 10:02, John Williamson wrote:
    Of course Paddington was real. How cold anyone think otherwise?

    He was born in an old transport cafe near here.

    Bill

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Sat Jun 11 13:51:41 2022
    On 11/06/2022 12:45, Max Demian wrote:
    Since most of us could only watch it on TV it might as well have been CGI.

    Shades of, "Watch the 1999 solar eclipse on TV or you'll go blind!" and "Watch the millennium fireworks on TV or you'll be crushed to death or
    fall in the Thames!"

    We're not encouraged to have authentic experiences.


    But some could watch it live and being in central London with crowds
    around the Palace, there would be many watching.

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