• OT: big film reels (was: Re: the royal home movie archive)

    From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid on Thu Jun 2 16:38:10 2022
    On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 at 16:19:35, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
    J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    ...The one thing I remember (so probably they _did_ get all the
    image on the screen or I'd have remembered that!) was the huge reel(s?);
    I think it was a 16mm print, same as I used to show as school
    projectionist on film nights, but I think they'd got it all on one reel
    (or big ones, at least) to reduce the number of reel-change intervals
    (possibly to 0).

    There was a similar set-up in Wrington in the early 1970s. The feed

    (Mine would have been 197x too. [x=1-8])

    spool was huge and was mounted on a floor stand behind the projector,
    but the take-up spool had to be mounted on, and driven by, the
    projector; so its size was limited.

    Ah, I was wondering about that - I didn't remember there being _two_
    huge reels ...

    I wondered what the operator would do when the take-up spool was full,
    so I watched carefully. As the cue dots appeared, a splice went through
    the machine, the operator caught the splice coming out and tore it
    apart. Then he let the loose end feed onto the floor while he removed
    the full spool and mounted up an empty one. Finally he picked up the
    loose end, threaded it onto the empty spool and the show continued
    without interruption.

    ... so I presume it was similar to what you describe. (I was watching
    the film! [I'd paid to!])

    Presumably he then spliced up the films at home, ready for the next show
    the following night in another hall. At the end of the hire period,
    before he could return the films to the distributors, I imagine he would
    have to splice back all the leaders and trailers he had initially
    removed.

    And - if he really did let it fall to the floor, rather than into a
    clean box - the distributors wouldn't have been too pleased with the
    state of the first few yards of each reel. Assuming they noticed.

    Sounds an enterprising - though Heath-Robinson and labour-intensive -
    approach! Presumably avoided taking two projectors, especially if you
    didn't know whether the venue had room for two (or you knew it didn't).
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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to G6JPG@255soft.uk on Thu Jun 2 22:39:05 2022
    J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    [...]
    Sounds an enterprising - though Heath-Robinson and labour-intensive - approach! Presumably avoided taking two projectors, especially if you
    didn't know whether the venue had room for two (or you knew it didn't).

    It was a weekly show, so he would have been familiar with the (quite
    large) hall. I presumed he only owned one projector, otherwise he would
    have shown the film in the usual way.

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