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  • Re: Spinal Tap is no more

    From SimonM@21:1/5 to SimonM on Fri May 6 08:22:30 2022
    On 06/05/2022 08:21, SimonM wrote:
    A sad coincidence:

    Very sadly, Ric Parnell, drummer of Spinal Tap
    died (for real) this month.

    The Daily Telegraph has an obituary here:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/05/03/ric-parnell-exploding-drummer-mock-rock-legends-spinal-tap/


    Parnell was only 70, which is no age these days,
    and prior to the Tap, he played with Atomic
    Rooster and was a successful session drummer.

    The DT doesn't report whether he will be cremated
    or not...


    Sorry - forgot to say the DT obit is behind their
    paywall. Others are probably available (haven't
    looked).

    S.

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  • From SimonM@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 6 08:21:19 2022
    A sad coincidence:

    Very sadly, Ric Parnell, drummer of Spinal Tap
    died (for real) this month.

    The Daily Telegraph has an obituary here:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/05/03/ric-parnell-exploding-drummer-mock-rock-legends-spinal-tap/

    Parnell was only 70, which is no age these days,
    and prior to the Tap, he played with Atomic
    Rooster and was a successful session drummer.

    The DT doesn't report whether he will be cremated
    or not...

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to SimonM on Fri May 6 08:49:22 2022
    On 06/05/2022 08:21, SimonM wrote:
    A sad coincidence:

    Very sadly, Ric Parnell, drummer of Spinal Tap died (for real) this
    month.

    The Daily Telegraph has an obituary here:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/05/03/ric-parnell-exploding-drummer-mock-rock-legends-spinal-tap/


    Parnell was only 70, which is no age these days, and prior to the Tap,
    he played with Atomic Rooster and was a successful session drummer.

    The DT doesn't report whether he will be cremated or not...

    Hopefully, if Ric is cremated, they'll set the furnace to 11 ?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to SimonM on Fri May 6 08:26:02 2022
  • From NY@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Fri May 6 09:27:36 2022
    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:jdk281Fmm9kU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 06/05/2022 08:21, SimonM wrote:
    A sad coincidence:

    Very sadly, Ric Parnell, drummer of Spinal Tap died (for real) this
    month.

    The Daily Telegraph has an obituary here:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/05/03/ric-parnell-exploding-drummer-mock-rock-legends-spinal-tap/

    Parnell was only 70, which is no age these days, and prior to the Tap, he
    played with Atomic Rooster and was a successful session drummer.

    The DT doesn't report whether he will be cremated or not...

    Hopefully, if Ric is cremated, they'll set the furnace to 11 ?

    And hopefully the furnace won't explode.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 6 09:33:08 2022
    On 06/05/2022 09:27, NY wrote:
    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:jdk281Fmm9kU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 06/05/2022 08:21, SimonM wrote:
    A sad coincidence:

    Very sadly, Ric Parnell, drummer of Spinal Tap died (for real) this
    month.

    The Daily Telegraph has an obituary here:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/05/03/ric-parnell-exploding-drummer-mock-rock-legends-spinal-tap/


    Parnell was only 70, which is no age these days, and prior to the
    Tap, he played with Atomic Rooster and was a successful session
    drummer.

    The DT doesn't report whether he will be cremated or not...

    Hopefully, if Ric is cremated, they'll set the furnace to 11 ?

    And hopefully the furnace won't explode.

    From any pacemaker battery !

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Fri May 6 11:13:31 2022
    On 06/05/2022 09:33, Mark Carver wrote:
    From any pacemaker battery !


    Years ago I spoke to a hospital technician who use to connect up
    pacemakers (some surgeons were hopeless at using a screwdrive and saw
    him grimace as the surgeon struggled so told him to get scrubbed and do
    the job). He said the pacemakers using isotopes had to be able withstand cremation (also a shot from a Magnum Special pistol at point blank range).

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Fri May 6 12:48:20 2022
    "MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t52sca$f4p$1@dont-email.me...
    On 06/05/2022 09:33, Mark Carver wrote:
    From any pacemaker battery !


    Years ago I spoke to a hospital technician who use to connect up
    pacemakers (some surgeons were hopeless at using a screwdrive and saw him grimace as the surgeon struggled so told him to get scrubbed and do the
    job). He said the pacemakers using isotopes had to be able withstand cremation (also a shot from a Magnum Special pistol at point blank range).

    I gather that undertakers routinely check for and remove pacemakers, a)
    because they can explode during cremation, and b) hospitals often want them back.

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 6 13:14:45 2022
    On 06/05/2022 12:48, NY wrote:


    I gather that undertakers routinely check for and remove pacemakers, a) because they can explode during cremation, and b) hospitals often want
    them back.

    That didn't happen when my wife died. I asked and they said there was no
    need to do anything. Nor did the pacemaker attempt to restart her heart
    after the moment of death.

    Bill

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 6 17:07:56 2022
    On 06/05/2022 12:48, NY wrote:
    I gather that undertakers routinely check for and remove pacemakers, a) because they can explode during cremation, and b) hospitals often want them back.

    They should not, as I wrote, the spec contains (or at least did when I
    was told and no reason to believe it has changed).


    Withstand cremation
    Withstand Magnum Special at point-blank range
    Withstand hitting concrete in a fall from the height that airliners operate. Withstand sinking to the deepest part of the ocean.

    The important thing is that the integrity of the casing is not breached.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Fri May 6 20:04:37 2022
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 06/05/2022 12:48, NY wrote:
    I gather that undertakers routinely check for and remove pacemakers, a) because they can explode during cremation, and b) hospitals often want them back.

    They should not, as I wrote, the spec contains (or at least did when I
    was told and no reason to believe it has changed).


    Withstand cremation

    Cremation, if done properly, generates temperatures at which organic
    matter completely decomposes, at least 400 C. The thermal mass of a
    pacemaker is very small, so it would quickly attain that temperature
    right through. and everything organic inside it would be redued to ash.
    That would include all epoxy potting and circuit boards, all insulation
    except ceramic and all flexible seals. All the solder joints would
    melt, so would lithium if it is used in the batteries.

    The only way that specification could be true is if it defines
    'withstand' to mean that some identifiable residue would be left after
    the cremation.


    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Fri May 6 21:42:31 2022
    On 06/05/2022 20:04, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    The only way that specification could be true is if it defines
    'withstand' to mean that some identifiable residue would be left after
    the cremation.

    From what I understood, the main concern was the long life which have
    some sort of isotope inside.

    You only get one of those if you are relatively young, older people get
    the ones with a replaceable battery.

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sat May 7 07:52:10 2022
    On Fri, 6 May 2022 17:07:56 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 06/05/2022 12:48, NY wrote:
    I gather that undertakers routinely check for and remove pacemakers, a)
    because they can explode during cremation, and b) hospitals often want them >> back.

    They should not, as I wrote, the spec contains (or at least did when I
    was told and no reason to believe it has changed).


    Withstand cremation
    Withstand Magnum Special at point-blank range
    Withstand hitting concrete in a fall from the height that airliners operate. >Withstand sinking to the deepest part of the ocean.

    The important thing is that the integrity of the casing is not breached.


    It's a shame we can't make a device that bestows those properties upon
    its wearers. I think they'd sell quite well, don't you?

    Rod.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 8 16:01:19 2022
    On 06/05/2022 17:07, MB wrote:

    Withstand hitting concrete in a fall from the height that airliners
    operate.

    Or just from the top of an office block. Terminal velocity is terminal
    velocity is 120ish mph ?

    (An airliner hitting the side of a mountain at 500 mph is a different
    kettle of fish of course)

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