I have not seen much of an increase in stations seemingly aimed at Ukraine yet. I'd have thought portable radios might be very handy there right now.The BBC are providing a service, as discussed in here recently.
On 25/03/2022 07:33, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I have not seen much of an increase in stations seemingly aimed at Ukraine yet. I'd have thought portable radios might be very handy there right now.The BBC are providing a service, as discussed in here recently.
How else are you expecting to do it ?
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 25/03/2022 07:33, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I have not seen much of an increase in stations seemingly aimed atThe BBC are providing a service, as discussed in here recently.
Ukraine
yet. I'd have thought portable radios might be very handy there right
now.
How else are you expecting to do it ?
It would have been far more useful if the BBC had been able to broadcast trustworthy news in Russian, into Russia at an early stage of the war.
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On 25/03/2022 07:33, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I have not seen much of an increase in stations seemingly aimed atThe BBC are providing a service, as discussed in here recently.
Ukraine
yet. I'd have thought portable radios might be very handy there right
now.
How else are you expecting to do it ?
Maybe they do that already? However I do not think many Russians are under any illusions about what is going on. Whether they choose to actually act on it or indeed believe it or care is a moot point. You can always get rent a crowd to cheer the leader if you pay them enough.
Maybe they do that already? However I do not think many Russians are under >any illusions about what is going on. Whether they choose to actually act on
and I fear for his safety - a significant proportion _are_ under a very different impression about what's going on than the rest of us; plentyControl the media, control the people?
of them support what the "leader" is doing. Especially the older
generation, who get _all_ their information from state television. What proportion this is, is hard to tell - but it may well be over 50% in
much of Russia.
[]
To a lesser degree, we have that here, with most UK news media
controlled by a few very rich capitalists who don't approve of
socialism in any form.
On 27/03/2022 14:00, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
From what little is getting out - Steve Rosenberg's reports are gold,
and I fear for his safety - a significant proportion _are_ under a veryControl the media, control the people?
different impression about what's going on than the rest of us; plenty
of them support what the "leader" is doing. Especially the older
generation, who get _all_ their information from state television. What
proportion this is, is hard to tell - but it may well be over 50% in
much of Russia.
[]
To a lesser degree, we have that here,
with most UK news media controlled by a few very rich capitalists who
don't approve of socialism in any form.
There is a very small percentage of people here making the effort to
look beyond what is in the red top rags and soundbite news bulletins.
To improve his hit rate and influence, Murdoch bought what used to be a >widely trusted newspaper a while back...
On 27/03/2022 14:51, John Williamson wrote:
To a lesser degree, we have that here, with most UK news media
controlled by a few very rich capitalists who don't approve of
socialism in any form.
They still seem to have a lot of very keen Lefties in positions of
influence in the UK news media.
Channel 4 is a long way to the Left though fortunately not many watch it.Why is that fortunate?
BBC News seem to have high proportionIt certainly often gets criticised for that (left-leaning). Whether it's
and still seem to have many Remoaners.Brexit/remain isn't a left/right matter; I think a lot of the "red wall"
The Guardian and Daily Maxwell are both still well to the Left, others
a bit of a mixture.
BBC News [...] certainly often gets criticised for that (left-leaning). Whether it'strue, I question.
On 27/03/2022 17:49, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
BBC News [...] certainly often gets criticised for thattrue, I question.
(left-leaning). Whether it's
I don't.
A few days ago Look North had an item about food banks. It was a part of
the BBC’s barrage of criticism of Rishi Sunak’s budget. As it happens I have some sympathy with them about the budget, but what Look North did
was disgraceful. The food bank item had sad music in the background, all
the way through. Now this is a news programme remember. The only reason
for using music is to elicit an emotional response in the viewer. It is
not an acceptable for a news programme to attempt to sway the emotions
(and thus the political views) by the use of music. News programmes are supposed to present an unbiased account of events, and then leave us to decide what we think about them, not to attempt to alter our opinion.
On Sun 27/03/2022 19:19, williamwright wrote:I'd agree with you about the use of music: worthy of complaints to
On 27/03/2022 17:49, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
I don't.BBC News [...] certainly often gets criticised for that >>>>(left-leaning). Whether it'strue, I question.
A few days ago Look North had an item about food banks. It was a
part of the BBC’s barrage of criticism of Rishi Sunak’s budget.
As it happens I have some sympathy with them about the budget, but
what Look North did was disgraceful. The food bank item had sad music
in the background, all the way through. Now this is a news programme >>remember. The only reason for using music is to elicit an emotional >>response in the viewer. It is not an acceptable for a news programme
to attempt to sway the emotions (and thus the political views) by the
use of music. News programmes are supposed to present an unbiased
account of events, and then leave us to decide what we think about
them, not to attempt to alter our opinion.
Also notice Bill that it was not only circulated with BBC news progs
but also onto the News Channel (and IMSMC the 1 news.)
On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 at 19:45:07, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wroteIf you gauge what are the important issues in ascending order, by the
(my responses usually FOLLOW):
On Sun 27/03/2022 19:19, williamwright wrote:I'd agree with you about the use of music: worthy of complaints to
On 27/03/2022 17:49, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
I don't.BBC News [...] certainly often gets criticised for thattrue, I question.
(left-leaning). Whether it's
A few days ago Look North had an item about food banks. It was a
part of the BBC’s barrage of criticism of Rishi Sunak’s budget. As >>> it happens I have some sympathy with them about the budget, but
what Look North did was disgraceful. The food bank item had sad
music in the background, all the way through. Now this is a news
programme remember. The only reason for using music is to elicit an
emotional response in the viewer. It is not an acceptable for a
news programme to attempt to sway the emotions (and thus the
political views) by the use of music. News programmes are supposed
to present an unbiased account of events, and then leave us to
decide what we think about them, not to attempt to alter our opinion.
various bodies (and a tweet or two).
I suppose it would be better to say the Beeb _can_ be biased in its
reporting - but IMO both ways. (As someone pointed out probably some
decades ago, I don't think they've ever referred to a "heroic
picket".) I guess we are more sensitive to the biased reports that are against our own POV. (I think of myself as slightly right of centre
[if we must stick to such a single axis; I'm also libertarian], but I
still notice right-biased reports too.) Certainly they're prone to
PC-ism and woke-ism, but then so are all the media. (And there are
good intentions behind at least a lot of PC-ism - just those
implementing it don't know when to stop.)
I got very fed up with Partygate - not that I didn't (and don't) think
there is some wrongdoing there, just there was a period not long ago
when we heard about little else; but equally, I got very fed up with
the way they hounded the previous labour party leader chap. (Name
escapes me - chap with a beard.) But not just the BBC - all the media
(on both those stories).
Though monostoryism goes beyond just matters of bias, to the detriment
of _all_ news coverage (on all news channels). (Even the current
Ukraine war is arguably pushing everything else out, though perhaps justifiably so. But lots is being buried - sometimes to the delight of
some who _want_ to bury things.)
Also notice Bill that it was not only circulated with BBC news progs
but also onto the News Channel (and IMSMC the 1 news.)
Don't even think about putting the telly on right now. Never a good idea
on the morning after the Oscars anyway, but 10 times less of a reason today
Don't even think about putting the telly on right now. Never a good idea
on the morning after the Oscars anyway, but 10 times less of a reason today
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