On 21/03/2022 08:46, charles wrote:
I'm sure you could have your electricialy delivered in batteries by
your locsl supermarket instead of by wire if you wanted.
An extract from my dad's astonishing book about life in the 1930s,
"Two Bentley Lads" (Amazon/Kindle)
While I was on short time at Stevens I sometimes went with my friend
Harold Wilson on his round delivering accumulators for wirelesses.
Harold worked for the Forward Stores at Bentley. He drove an Austin
Ten van and had several “rounds” delivering charged accumulators
to people with battery wireless sets, and collecting the discharged
ones, so that they could be charged up at the shop. Most of these
rounds were in the countryside north of Askern. I would meet him at
the shop and we would load up the van with accumulators and high
tension batteries and off we went. Most of the customers were farms
and cottages so we did quite a lot of travelling. Harold would call
at a pub and buy us a pie each for dinner, we would get back to the
shop in time to put all the batteries on charge ready for the next
day. One day as we were going along the Selby road we came up behind
an open backed lorry loaded with people who could have been going pea
picking or something like that. As we were about to pass the lorry it
moved over to the right and forced the van off the road. The offside
wheels went over the verge and the van slowly turned over and
finished on its side on the grass. Acid from the batteries was all
over the place. We washed our hands and faces in the dyke the best we
could do. Eddie Crannich who owned the Forward Stores came out with
his car — he had a big old-fashioned Bentley — and he towed the
van back to the shop. I went home to get my acid-soaked clothes off.
Mam washed my overalls and my trousers and when they were dried the
trousers weren’t too bad; they could be patched, but the overalls
– they were past redemption.
Bill
On 21/03/2022 08:46, charles wrote:
I'm sure you could have your electricialy delivered in batteries by
your locsl supermarket instead of by wire if you wanted.
An extract from my dad's astonishing book about life in the 1930s,
"Two Bentley Lads" (Amazon/Kindle)
While I was on short time at Stevens I sometimes went with my friend
Harold Wilson on his round delivering accumulators for wirelesses.
Harold worked for the Forward Stores at Bentley. He drove an Austin
Ten van and had several “rounds” delivering charged accumulators
to people with battery wireless sets, and collecting the discharged
ones, so that they could be charged up at the shop. Most of these
rounds were in the countryside north of Askern. I would meet him at
the shop and we would load up the van with accumulators and high
tension batteries and off we went. Most of the customers were farms
and cottages so we did quite a lot of travelling. Harold would call
at a pub and buy us a pie each for dinner, we would get back to the
shop in time to put all the batteries on charge ready for the next
day. One day as we were going along the Selby road we came up behind
an open backed lorry loaded with people who could have been going pea
picking or something like that. As we were about to pass the lorry it
moved over to the right and forced the van off the road. The offside
wheels went over the verge and the van slowly turned over and
finished on its side on the grass. Acid from the batteries was all
over the place. We washed our hands and faces in the dyke the best we
could do. Eddie Crannich who owned the Forward Stores came out with
his car — he had a big old-fashioned Bentley — and he towed the
van back to the shop. I went home to get my acid-soaked clothes off.
Mam washed my overalls and my trousers and when they were dried the
trousers weren’t too bad; they could be patched, but the overalls
– they were past redemption.
Bill
Mark Carver wrote:
On 21/03/2022 11:01, charles wrote:My council is supposed to, but when I tried I found my batteries
In article <j9qvk5Fdm7cU1@mid.individual.net>,How very civilised !
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 21/03/2022 09:36, Robin wrote:our council refuse collection also takes batteries - in a separate
I love the way shops hide out of sight their battery recyclingI'm sure you could have your electricialy delivered inBut I don't think they'd take away the empties.
batteries by your locsl supermarket instead of by wire if you
wanted.
containers. In my local Mini-Tescos I had to shift several
trolley cages out of the way, and stand on a pile of Sunday
newspapers, to drop my 4 x AA cells into the container.
SuperDrug had theirs behind their counter
bag.
scattered over the road.
Mark Carver wrote:
On 21/03/2022 11:01, charles wrote:
In article <j9qvk5Fdm7cU1@mid.individual.net>,
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 21/03/2022 09:36, Robin wrote:
I'm sure you could have your electricialy delivered in
batteries by your locsl supermarket instead of by wire if you wanted.
But I don't think they'd take away the empties.
I love the way shops hide out of sight their battery recycling containers. In my local Mini-Tescos I had to shift several
trolley cages out of the way, and stand on a pile of Sunday
newspapers, to drop my 4 x AA cells into the container.
SuperDrug had theirs behind their counter
our council refuse collection also takes batteries - in a separate
bag.
How very civilised !
My council is supposed to, but when I tried I found my batteries
scattered over the road.
--
On 21/03/2022 11:01, charles wrote:
In article <j9qvk5Fdm7cU1@mid.individual.net>,
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 21/03/2022 09:36, Robin wrote:
I'm sure you could have your electricialy delivered in
batteries by your locsl supermarket instead of by wire if you
wanted.
But I don't think they'd take away the empties.
I love the way shops hide out of sight their battery recycling containers. In my local Mini-Tescos I had to shift several
trolley cages out of the way, and stand on a pile of Sunday
newspapers, to drop my 4 x AA cells into the container.
SuperDrug had theirs behind their counter
our council refuse collection also takes batteries - in a separate
bag.
How very civilised !
Oh, well, our council seem to have great difficulty in empting the
wheelie bins into the back of the dustcart, without spilling lots of the contents all over the road.
perhaps you should hve put them in a stonger bag - and sealed it.
On 22/03/2022 10:32, Mark Carver wrote:
Oh, well, our council seem to have great difficulty in empting the
wheelie bins into the back of the dustcart, without spilling lots of the
contents all over the road.
I used to put my shredded paper in plastic bags in the recycle bin but
it has to be loose, I put it loose in the bin then it would be all over
the place if the bin blew over (*) or blow all over the place as emptied.
On 22/03/2022 10:56, MB wrote:
On 22/03/2022 10:32, Mark Carver wrote:
Oh, well, our council seem to have great difficulty in empting theI used to put my shredded paper in plastic bags in the recycle bin
wheelie bins into the back of the dustcart, without spilling lots of the >>> contents all over the road.
but it has to be loose, I put it loose in the bin then it would be
all over the place if the bin blew over (*) or blow all over the
place as emptied.
I used to put it in empty cereal boxes. (My current council doesn't
like shredded paper at all, as the fibres are made too short somehow. I >thought paper fibres are always very short anyway.)
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:43:17, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
On 22/03/2022 10:56, MB wrote:
On 22/03/2022 10:32, Mark Carver wrote:
Oh, well, our council seem to have great difficulty in empting theI used to put my shredded paper in plastic bags in the recycle bin
wheelie bins into the back of the dustcart, without spilling lots of
the
contents all over the road.
I've never thought of it until now, but _paper_ bags ought to be OK - _if_ you can find any big enough.
Ashford don't like shredded paper - the stated reason (and I can seebut it has to be loose, I put it loose in the bin then it would be all >>>over the place if the bin blew over (*) or blow all over the place as >>>emptied.
I used to put it in empty cereal boxes. (My current council doesn't like >>shredded paper at all, as the fibres are made too short somehow. I thought >>paper fibres are always very short anyway.)
_some_ validity in this) being that it was easily scattered by even the slightest wind, and thus messy. I like the cereal-box idea: might try it. (Though I can see the transfer being difficult.)
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message >news:Tf9UgpbhYeOiFwgb@a.a...
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:43:17, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote >> (my responses usually FOLLOW):
On 22/03/2022 10:56, MB wrote:
On 22/03/2022 10:32, Mark Carver wrote:
Oh, well, our council seem to have great difficulty in empting theI used to put my shredded paper in plastic bags in the recycle bin
wheelie bins into the back of the dustcart, without spilling lots of >>>>> the
contents all over the road.
I've never thought of it until now, but _paper_ bags ought to be OK - _if_ >> you can find any big enough.
Ashford don't like shredded paper - the stated reason (and I can seebut it has to be loose, I put it loose in the bin then it would be all >>>>over the place if the bin blew over (*) or blow all over the place as >>>>emptied.
I used to put it in empty cereal boxes. (My current council doesn't like >>>shredded paper at all, as the fibres are made too short somehow. I thought >>>paper fibres are always very short anyway.)
_some_ validity in this) being that it was easily scattered by even the
slightest wind, and thus messy. I like the cereal-box idea: might try it.
(Though I can see the transfer being difficult.)
I have heard that some recycling centres don't want shredded paper, even if >it is securely contained in a paper (recyclable) bag because the shreddings >jam up their shredding machinery. Ah diddums. They need better equipment if >they cannot handle shredded paper.
They say that you should compost your confidential waste or else burn it >(either whole or shredded), or else put it in the non-recyclable bin in a >bag. Seems a crying shame that all the recyclable paper can't be recycled >just because you've quite sensibly shredded it to avoid data theft.
On 22/03/2022 10:57, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 21/03/2022 14:22, williamwright wrote:
On 21/03/2022 08:46, charles wrote:
I'm sure you could have your electricialy delivered in
batteries by your locsl supermarket instead of by wire if you
wanted.
An extract from my dad's astonishing book about life in the
1930s, "Two Bentley Lads" (Amazon/Kindle)
While I was on short time at Stevens I sometimes went with my
friend Harold Wilson on his round delivering accumulators for wirelesses. Harold worked for the Forward Stores at Bentley.
He drove an Austin Ten van and had several “rounds†delivering charged accumulators to people with battery wireless
sets, and collecting the discharged ones, so that they could be
charged up at the shop. Most of these rounds were in the
countryside north of Askern. I would meet him at the shop and
we would load up the van with accumulators and high tension
batteries and off we went.
I assume that the HT batteries were zi/carbon, with lots of
cylindrical cells wired in series with soldered connections. My
father said that it was possible to get lead/acid HT batteries
for a price; I assume that the same people would be able to
charge them.
There were HT batteries with nickel-iron cells and a clever
series-parallel switch that allowed them to be charged like normal accumulators. They still occasionally turn up and only need fresh electrolyte to start working again like new.
There are also grid bias batteries of course. I bought one from
Woolworth's (I think) around 1960. I'm surprised that radios that
require them were still around. It was thin and rectangular with lots
of wander sockets on top for the different voltages. I assume there
was some method of decoupling so the same battery could be used for
more than one valve. Presumably they lasted until they leaked as they
weren't required to deliver any current.
NY wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message
news:Tf9UgpbhYeOiFwgb@a.a...
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:43:17, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote >>> (my responses usually FOLLOW):
On 22/03/2022 10:56, MB wrote:
On 22/03/2022 10:32, Mark Carver wrote:
Oh, well, our council seem to have great difficulty in empting the >>>>>> wheelie bins into the back of the dustcart, without spilling lots of >>>>>> theI used to put my shredded paper in plastic bags in the recycle bin
contents all over the road.
I've never thought of it until now, but _paper_ bags ought to be OK - _if_ >>> you can find any big enough.
Ashford don't like shredded paper - the stated reason (and I can seebut it has to be loose, I put it loose in the bin then it would be all >>>>> over the place if the bin blew over (*) or blow all over the place as >>>>> emptied.
I used to put it in empty cereal boxes. (My current council doesn't like >>>> shredded paper at all, as the fibres are made too short somehow. I thought >>>> paper fibres are always very short anyway.)
_some_ validity in this) being that it was easily scattered by even the
slightest wind, and thus messy. I like the cereal-box idea: might try it. >>> (Though I can see the transfer being difficult.)
I have heard that some recycling centres don't want shredded paper, even if >> it is securely contained in a paper (recyclable) bag because the shreddings >> jam up their shredding machinery. Ah diddums. They need better equipment if >> they cannot handle shredded paper.
They say that you should compost your confidential waste or else burn it
(either whole or shredded), or else put it in the non-recyclable bin in a
bag. Seems a crying shame that all the recyclable paper can't be recycled
just because you've quite sensibly shredded it to avoid data theft.
We are permitted to put shredded paper in our recycling bins.
When I visited our local sorting facility, we saw the trommel
screen which removed all small "contamination" which then went
straight to landfill. This would clearly pass any crosscut paper
shreddings.
I queried this, and they said that I was correct, but they
felt that it was psychologically better to encourage recycling.
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