• Re: Tubes/Valves

    From charles@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 12 19:48:10 2022
    In article <o8adnY9gRIBselbPnZ2dnUVZ8kCdnZ2d@bt.com>, MB <MB@nospam.nospam> wrote:
    On 07/01/2014 11:21, Roderick Stewart wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:14:41 +0000, Jim Guthrie wrote:

    In BBC Glasgow Control Room many years ago we used to do an unofficial
    technical support in the evenings when people phoned up complaining
    about technical problems with their radio or television receivers. If
    the complaint was no sound or picture then the first question we asked
    was whether it was plugged in and switched on. It was surprising how
    many times there was an embarrassed silence. :-)

    I've done tech support for internet services and found exactly the same thing. Some people just reach for the phone without thinking.

    Rod.



    Or if you work for a certain tabloid newspaper, you run a front page
    story on BBC incompetence and how they have managed to lose your TV
    signal.

    i do remember a school being very irate that an overnight programme they
    had intended to record hadn't bee broadcast. Since I knew it gone out, I
    had a brainwave and phoned the elecricity supply company - yes, there had
    been a mains outage overnight in the school's area.

    --
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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to charles on Sun Feb 13 11:01:08 2022
    Well, I never did understand why videos did not all have battery backed
    clocks from the start, almost, but a surprising number never did have them which meant even if the recording was when the power
    was back it still never got recorded and the owner saw a flashing display
    on return.
    Brian

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    "charles" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote in message news:59b9bf43c7charles@candehope.me.uk...
    In article <o8adnY9gRIBselbPnZ2dnUVZ8kCdnZ2d@bt.com>, MB
    <MB@nospam.nospam>
    wrote:
    On 07/01/2014 11:21, Roderick Stewart wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:14:41 +0000, Jim Guthrie wrote:

    In BBC Glasgow Control Room many years ago we used to do an unofficial
    technical support in the evenings when people phoned up complaining
    about technical problems with their radio or television receivers. If
    the complaint was no sound or picture then the first question we asked
    was whether it was plugged in and switched on. It was surprising how
    many times there was an embarrassed silence. :-)

    I've done tech support for internet services and found exactly the same
    thing. Some people just reach for the phone without thinking.

    Rod.



    Or if you work for a certain tabloid newspaper, you run a front page
    story on BBC incompetence and how they have managed to lose your TV
    signal.

    i do remember a school being very irate that an overnight programme they
    had intended to record hadn't bee broadcast. Since I knew it gone out, I
    had a brainwave and phoned the elecricity supply company - yes, there had been a mains outage overnight in the school's area.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to charles on Sun Feb 13 11:03:46 2022
    One of the commonest things that got reported to the Rediffusion chaps in some of the wired areas in Wales when I worked there was everyone has
    squashed heads. Usually a good hard thump cured it as it was a common
    problem in the frame timebases on the sets of the time. grin.
    Brian

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    "charles" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote in message news:59b9bf43c7charles@candehope.me.uk...
    In article <o8adnY9gRIBselbPnZ2dnUVZ8kCdnZ2d@bt.com>, MB
    <MB@nospam.nospam>
    wrote:
    On 07/01/2014 11:21, Roderick Stewart wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:14:41 +0000, Jim Guthrie wrote:

    In BBC Glasgow Control Room many years ago we used to do an unofficial
    technical support in the evenings when people phoned up complaining
    about technical problems with their radio or television receivers. If
    the complaint was no sound or picture then the first question we asked
    was whether it was plugged in and switched on. It was surprising how
    many times there was an embarrassed silence. :-)

    I've done tech support for internet services and found exactly the same
    thing. Some people just reach for the phone without thinking.

    Rod.



    Or if you work for a certain tabloid newspaper, you run a front page
    story on BBC incompetence and how they have managed to lose your TV
    signal.

    i do remember a school being very irate that an overnight programme they
    had intended to record hadn't bee broadcast. Since I knew it gone out, I
    had a brainwave and phoned the elecricity supply company - yes, there had been a mains outage overnight in the school's area.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 11:31:19 2022
    On 13/02/2022 11:01, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    Well, I never did understand why videos did not all have battery backed clocks from the start, almost, but a surprising number never did have them which meant even if the recording was when the power
    was back it still never got recorded and the owner saw a flashing display on return.
    Brian

    It was no longer necessary once they had teletext, the clock updated
    very soon after you switched on.

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to briang1@blueyonder.co.uk on Sun Feb 13 11:54:03 2022
    In article <suaoij$ljl$1@dont-email.me>,
    Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    One of the commonest things that got reported to the Rediffusion chaps in some of the wired areas in Wales when I worked there was everyone has squashed heads. Usually a good hard thump cured

    The technical term is "percussive maintenance"

    --
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    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Edward Richardson@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Mon Feb 14 01:56:11 2022
    On Saturday, 4 January 2014 at 16:45:00 UTC, Mark Carver wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Dave Liquorice wrote:
    Yes, the meters have to manually read every 6 months I think and the
    supply companies get quite twitchy if the unread period gets over 12
    months.

    Up until 4-5 years ago the energy companies seemed fairly relaxed about reading the meters themselves, and were happy to fill-in with estimates between the customer readings. Then they seemed to get 'harder' on
    reading them themselves (when did outsourced readings start?) of course they can play the "we're entitled to break into your house and do a
    safety inspection" card ... strange that when the meter reader arrived after such a letter, it only took him 5 seconds of looking at the dials before he was on his way.
    We had a Water Meter fitted two years ago, (as part of a programme of converting all of South East Water fed homes to a metered supply).

    I read some documentation recently that indicated modern water meters have
    an RFID device fitted, and to extract the reading the water board simply drive a vehicle up your road, with an active coil fitted to harvest the readings ?

    Last year my lad was away for six months travelling, he left his car in its usual place, which meant the back wheel sits right on top of the meter flap. It didn't stop us getting a bill, and the meter reading on it was 'company read'. So I thought, ah it is an RFID system. Super. Last November, another bill came, with a estimated reading, and a vaguely threatening letter saying they had been able to read the meter, because a vehicle was parked on top, well yes there was, but I'm slightly baffled because someone (not least the lad himself) would have been at home, so why not ring the door bell, and ask us to shift it. Anyway they were only five units out with their estimate, so they can carry on with their estimates, if they're too shy to ring our door bell.
    --
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    Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.


    Anglian Water apparently has trials in Norwich, where the RFID readings are taken by the refuse collection vehicles.

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 14 10:10:13 2022
    Yes I'm sure there has been an epidemic of meter readers being doffed up
    after ringing door bells....
    Brian

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    "Edward Richardson" <tedjrr@gmail.com> wrote in message news:260c5a09-b273-454b-a96d-e1a68d89cae5n@googlegroups.com...
    On Saturday, 4 January 2014 at 16:45:00 UTC, Mark Carver wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Dave Liquorice wrote:
    Yes, the meters have to manually read every 6 months I think and the
    supply companies get quite twitchy if the unread period gets over 12
    months.

    Up until 4-5 years ago the energy companies seemed fairly relaxed about
    reading the meters themselves, and were happy to fill-in with estimates
    between the customer readings. Then they seemed to get 'harder' on
    reading them themselves (when did outsourced readings start?) of course
    they can play the "we're entitled to break into your house and do a
    safety inspection" card ... strange that when the meter reader arrived
    after such a letter, it only took him 5 seconds of looking at the dials
    before he was on his way.
    We had a Water Meter fitted two years ago, (as part of a programme of
    converting all of South East Water fed homes to a metered supply).

    I read some documentation recently that indicated modern water meters
    have
    an RFID device fitted, and to extract the reading the water board simply
    drive a vehicle up your road, with an active coil fitted to harvest the
    readings ?

    Last year my lad was away for six months travelling, he left his car in
    its
    usual place, which meant the back wheel sits right on top of the meter
    flap.
    It didn't stop us getting a bill, and the meter reading on it was
    'company
    read'. So I thought, ah it is an RFID system. Super. Last November,
    another
    bill came, with a estimated reading, and a vaguely threatening letter
    saying
    they had been able to read the meter, because a vehicle was parked on
    top,
    well yes there was, but I'm slightly baffled because someone (not least
    the
    lad himself) would have been at home, so why not ring the door bell, and
    ask
    us to shift it. Anyway they were only five units out with their estimate,
    so
    they can carry on with their estimates, if they're too shy to ring our
    door
    bell.
    --
    Mark
    Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.


    Anglian Water apparently has trials in Norwich, where the RFID readings
    are taken by the refuse collection vehicles.

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to charles on Sun Feb 20 12:08:08 2022
    We in Chessington used to get all these pcbs back and after cleaning about 2 inches of much out with carbon tec, you eventually found all the pots on the rear edge of the pcb had dry joints where they were soldered to the
    board.They were skeletal pots on a mounting bracket.

    Later on of course when colour came in it was convergence boards that had
    the intermittent pots that put all the colours out of alignment until the correct thump was used.

    Brian

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    "charles" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote in message news:59ba17b1b0charles@candehope.me.uk...
    In article <suaoij$ljl$1@dont-email.me>,
    Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    One of the commonest things that got reported to the Rediffusion chaps
    in
    some of the wired areas in Wales when I worked there was everyone has
    squashed heads. Usually a good hard thump cured

    The technical term is "percussive maintenance"

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sun Feb 20 12:03:45 2022
    Yes but how many had teletext built into the vcr, I had an akai like this,
    but it had full teletext and you could program the video with it.
    Brian

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    "MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:suaq67$ucj$1@dont-email.me...
    On 13/02/2022 11:01, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    Well, I never did understand why videos did not all have battery backed
    clocks from the start, almost, but a surprising number never did have
    them
    which meant even if the recording was when the power
    was back it still never got recorded and the owner saw a flashing
    display
    on return.
    Brian

    It was no longer necessary once they had teletext, the clock updated very soon after you switched on.

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to briang1@blueyonder.co.uk on Sun Feb 20 12:02:14 2022
    Unless it was made by grundig of course who did have batteries. I also found out later on that some indeed did have a battery, but nobody knew it was
    there and it had not been fitted in any case, just a socket.
    Brian

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    "Brian Gaff (Sofa)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:suaodl$knq$1@dont-email.me...
    Well, I never did understand why videos did not all have battery backed clocks from the start, almost, but a surprising number never did have them which meant even if the recording was when the power
    was back it still never got recorded and the owner saw a flashing display
    on return.
    Brian

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    "charles" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote in message news:59b9bf43c7charles@candehope.me.uk...
    In article <o8adnY9gRIBselbPnZ2dnUVZ8kCdnZ2d@bt.com>, MB
    <MB@nospam.nospam>
    wrote:
    On 07/01/2014 11:21, Roderick Stewart wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:14:41 +0000, Jim Guthrie wrote:

    In BBC Glasgow Control Room many years ago we used to do an
    unofficial
    technical support in the evenings when people phoned up complaining
    about technical problems with their radio or television receivers.
    If
    the complaint was no sound or picture then the first question we
    asked
    was whether it was plugged in and switched on. It was surprising
    how
    many times there was an embarrassed silence. :-)

    I've done tech support for internet services and found exactly the
    same
    thing. Some people just reach for the phone without thinking.

    Rod.



    Or if you work for a certain tabloid newspaper, you run a front page
    story on BBC incompetence and how they have managed to lose your TV
    signal.

    i do remember a school being very irate that an overnight programme they
    had intended to record hadn't bee broadcast. Since I knew it gone out, I
    had a brainwave and phoned the elecricity supply company - yes, there had
    been a mains outage overnight in the school's area.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle



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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 20 13:18:23 2022
    On 20/02/2022 12:03, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

    Yes but how many had teletext built into the vcr, I had an akai like this, but it had full teletext and you could program the video with it.

    I had a Philips VCR with teletext at at time when my TV didn't. It had
    NICAM too, likewise.

    All the VCRs I have had (from 1988) could set their time from the TV
    signal. I don't know whether they had a skeletal teletext decoder or
    whether they got from something else in the TV signal.

    --
    Max Demian

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to briang1@blueyonder.co.uk on Sun Feb 20 14:11:57 2022
    In article <sutak6$tk0$1@dont-email.me>,
    Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    Unless it was made by grundig of course who did have batteries. I also found out later on that some indeed did have a battery, but nobody knew it was there and it had not been fitted in any case, just a socket.
    Brian

    Certainly, I had to fit the battery in my Grundig V2000

    --
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    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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