Ofcom to investigate Channel 4 over subtitle outage
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60167724
Not a good time to break that particular rule with public awareness of
deaf viewers heightened after Strictly Come Dancing and the proposed
bill to give BSL full recognition.
Ofcom to investigate Channel 4 over subtitle outage
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60167724
I presume the point of the investigation is to encourage all broadcasters from this point onwards to make sure their subtitling hardware and software is up to date and resilient, rather than some afterthought using ancient
kit. It allows engineering to make a stronger case to the manglement if the latter fear regulatory grief might fall upon them.
Yes well stables and lost horses come to mind here. The world is constantly Changing, and sadly as it does so we lose the ability to cope when
Single point of failure should be avoided as much as is practical.
Brian
On 16:14 28 Jan 2022, MB said:
Not a good time to break that particular rule with public awareness of
deaf viewers heightened after Strictly Come Dancing and the proposed
bill to give BSL full recognition.
I can only hope the new BSL proposals don't further clutter up our
screens with signers gesticulating distractingly at the side of the
screen.
Sign language is surely fully replacable by subtitles on tv broadcasts.
Subtitles convey specialist terms (such as "devolution") far better
than sign language and nowadays automatically generated ones are
surprisingly accurate.
This new regulation seems to be a last gasp fightback by devoted
signers demanding rights. There's little more than 150,000 people in
the UK who understand sign language and only a half of those are deaf.
On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:48:09 GMT, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
On 16:14 28 Jan 2022, MB said:
Not a good time to break that particular rule with public awareness
of deaf viewers heightened after Strictly Come Dancing and the
proposed bill to give BSL full recognition.
I can only hope the new BSL proposals don't further clutter up our
screens with signers gesticulating distractingly at the side of the
screen.
Sign language is surely fully replacable by subtitles on tv
broadcasts.
Subtitles convey specialist terms (such as "devolution") far better
than sign language and nowadays automatically generated ones are >>surprisingly accurate.
This new regulation seems to be a last gasp fightback by devoted
signers demanding rights. There's little more than 150,000 people in
the UK who understand sign language and only a half of those are
deaf.
It would also be technically feasible, as I've suggested before, to
transmit the signing person on a separate channel (at lower
resolution on one of the red button channels perhaps?) and combine it
in any required manner at the receiver. A special receiver, or a
modified one, or maybe a separate adaptor unit that would combine the
outputs of two standard receivers, could present the result on a
single screen in the way that is currently done by the broadcasters. Alternatively, a user who was interested in using this service could
simply buy an extra receiver to display it on a separate screen. If
they wanted to, the broadcasters could start tomorrow. I wonder how
long it's been since they stopped recruiting people with imagination.
Rod.
I can't ever forget the fake signer at Nelson mandela's funeral.
On 10:47 29 Jan 2022, Roderick Stewart said:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:48:09 GMT, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
On 16:14 28 Jan 2022, MB said:
Not a good time to break that particular rule with public awareness
of deaf viewers heightened after Strictly Come Dancing and the
proposed bill to give BSL full recognition.
I can only hope the new BSL proposals don't further clutter up our >>>screens with signers gesticulating distractingly at the side of the >>>screen.
Sign language is surely fully replacable by subtitles on tv
broadcasts.
Subtitles convey specialist terms (such as "devolution") far better
than sign language and nowadays automatically generated ones are >>>surprisingly accurate.
This new regulation seems to be a last gasp fightback by devoted
signers demanding rights. There's little more than 150,000 people in
the UK who understand sign language and only a half of those are
deaf.
It would also be technically feasible, as I've suggested before, to
transmit the signing person on a separate channel (at lower
resolution on one of the red button channels perhaps?) and combine it
in any required manner at the receiver. A special receiver, or a
modified one, or maybe a separate adaptor unit that would combine the
outputs of two standard receivers, could present the result on a
single screen in the way that is currently done by the broadcasters.
Alternatively, a user who was interested in using this service could
simply buy an extra receiver to display it on a separate screen. If
they wanted to, the broadcasters could start tomorrow. I wonder how
long it's been since they stopped recruiting people with imagination.
Rod.
That might win the technical battle but signers appear to have won the >political battle. Seems we're destinated to have even more
gesticulaters on screen for years to come even if no one is watching
them.
I can't ever forget the fake signer at Nelson mandela's funeral.
There's a lesson there although I can't say exactly what it is!
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
On 29/01/2022 18:49, Pamela wrote:
I can't ever forget the fake signer at Nelson mandela's funeral.
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
On 29/01/2022 18:49, Pamela wrote:
I can't ever forget the fake signer at Nelson mandela's funeral.
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
Bill
williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
On 29/01/2022 18:49, Pamela wrote:
I can't ever forget the fake signer at Nelson mandela's funeral.
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
I was once called in as a First Aider to a case of Transient Global
Amnesia, it was quite frightening and definitely not fun.
williamwright wrote:
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
Was that a one-off?
williamwright wrote:
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
Was that a one-off?
Andy Burns wrote:
williamwright wrote:
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
Was that a one-off?
Probably ARW has told you the full story?
williamwright wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
williamwright wrote:
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
Was that a one-off?
Probably ARW has told you the full story?
He mentioned that it happened, and how badly it affected you, but when I
read about it, it seems like it often reoccurs?
On 01/02/2022 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
williamwright wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
williamwright wrote:
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
Was that a one-off?
Probably ARW has told you the full story?
He mentioned that it happened, and how badly it affected you, but
when I read about it, it seems like it often reoccurs?
No, it was a one-off, at least so far. It was a 24 hour event, but
recovery took a while. It was a case of learning many things again. I
still have practical problems caused by missing memories. However
apart from that I have all my faculties. I took a cognitive
impairment test a fortnight after the event and passed it with flying colours. I remain a charming, witty, and urbane soul. Oh and modest
as well.
Bill
There are a few cases of transient global amnesia in people after
starting statin medication. A NASA doctor wrote a book about his
experience.
On 19:20 1 Feb 2022, williamwright said:
On 01/02/2022 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
williamwright wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
williamwright wrote:
Tried global amnesia? It's great fun.
Was that a one-off?
Probably ARW has told you the full story?
He mentioned that it happened, and how badly it affected you, but
when I read about it, it seems like it often reoccurs?
No, it was a one-off, at least so far. It was a 24 hour event, but
recovery took a while. It was a case of learning many things again. I
still have practical problems caused by missing memories. However
apart from that I have all my faculties. I took a cognitive
impairment test a fortnight after the event and passed it with flying colours. I remain a charming, witty, and urbane soul. Oh and modest
as well.
Bill
There are a few cases of transient global amnesia in people after
starting statin medication. A NASA doctor wrote a book about his
experience.
On 01/02/2022 20:43, Pamela wrote:
There are a few cases of transient global amnesia in people after
starting statin medication. A NASA doctor wrote a book about his
experience.
I hadn't heard of that one.
Bill
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