• Re: GUNSMOKE

    From Rink@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 23 21:34:52 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    Op 9-2-2019 om 13:05 schreef Lestrade of the Yard:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ui-mzTCmZPE



    the sound of the gun is before he shoots.....


    And again in some other intro's....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W_A6VJEDYc

    Rink

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to Rink on Sun Jan 23 21:30:07 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    On 23/01/2022 20:34, Rink wrote:
    Op 9-2-2019 om 13:05 schreef Lestrade of the Yard:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ui-mzTCmZPE



    the sound of the gun is before he shoots.....


    And again in some other intro's.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W_A6VJEDYc

    Rink
    They're just shooting at each other. That's not very nice.

    Bill

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to williamwright on Mon Jan 24 08:54:46 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    Did you know that most filming of guns for tv and films use a special charge with a more visible muzzle flash or smoke exhaust event? Normal bullets and cartridges would be made to minimise this, as any military person would not wish to give away their position by this method.
    However entertainment tends to shoot blanks and needs something to appear
    to happen.
    Brian

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    "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message news:j55vmvFio17U1@mid.individual.net...
    On 23/01/2022 20:34, Rink wrote:
    Op 9-2-2019 om 13:05 schreef Lestrade of the Yard:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ui-mzTCmZPE



    the sound of the gun is before he shoots.....


    And again in some other intro's....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W_A6VJEDYc

    Rink
    They're just shooting at each other. That's not very nice.

    Bill

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to mark.carver@invalid.invalid on Mon Jan 24 09:53:52 2022
    A movie armourer once told me that he used several types and strengths
    of blank ammunition, depending on what the director wanted for the
    scene. It might require lots of smoke, a visible flash, or enough
    blast to destroy a prop or a sugar glass window, or maybe some
    combination of the above, and he would load the gun accordingly.

    He would always hand the gun directly to the actor immediately before
    the shot (camera shot and gun shot) and shout "live weapon on set",
    and then take it back immediately afterwards, and never entrust this
    to a third party. I don't know if this was a legal requirement but
    it's what this particular armourer did.

    Rod.

    On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:24:37 +0000, Mark Carver
    <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    You've heard about the recent tragic accident involving the actor Alec >Baldwin on a film set ?!

    On 24/01/2022 08:54, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    Did you know that most filming of guns for tv and films use a special charge >> with a more visible muzzle flash or smoke exhaust event? Normal bullets and >> cartridges would be made to minimise this, as any military person would not >> wish to give away their position by this method.
    However entertainment tends to shoot blanks and needs something to appear >> to happen.
    Brian


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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 24 09:24:37 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    You've heard about the recent tragic accident involving the actor Alec
    Baldwin on a film set ?!

    On 24/01/2022 08:54, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    Did you know that most filming of guns for tv and films use a special charge with a more visible muzzle flash or smoke exhaust event? Normal bullets and cartridges would be made to minimise this, as any military person would not wish to give away their position by this method.
    However entertainment tends to shoot blanks and needs something to appear to happen.
    Brian


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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 24 09:57:30 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    On 24/01/2022 08:54, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    Did you know that most filming of guns for tv and films use a special charge with a more visible muzzle flash or smoke exhaust event? Normal bullets and cartridges would be made to minimise this, as any military person would not wish to give away their position by this method.
    However entertainment tends to shoot blanks and needs something to appear to happen.
    Brian

    We had a demonstration of various guns when visiting a firearms company
    that uses the old indoor firing range that was built for the US SEALs.

    He fired one of the classic Wild West guns which used black powder (or
    some equivalent) and did produce a considerable amount of smoke and a
    muzzle flash (I think). Also frequently misfired and had to be reloaded.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Mon Jan 24 11:00:21 2022
    "Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:7vssugtur4jue28c3jqm7qfe3su6d77kvm@4ax.com...
    A movie armourer once told me that he used several types and strengths
    of blank ammunition, depending on what the director wanted for the
    scene. It might require lots of smoke, a visible flash, or enough
    blast to destroy a prop or a sugar glass window, or maybe some
    combination of the above, and he would load the gun accordingly.

    He would always hand the gun directly to the actor immediately before
    the shot (camera shot and gun shot) and shout "live weapon on set",
    and then take it back immediately afterwards, and never entrust this
    to a third party. I don't know if this was a legal requirement but
    it's what this particular armourer did.

    How clearly are the rounds of ammunition marked to distinguish between live
    and blank? If blanks looked very clearly different (*), it would be easy for
    an armourer to spot a live round that had got in with blanks.

    Ultimately the responsibility for ensuring that live rounds are only used
    when the film needs them rests with the armourer. And ideally, using a blank wherever possible, with shots being simulated by squibs on the objects being fired at.

    I'm not sure in the recent tragic case whether the gun went off accidently
    or whether the actor intentionally pulled the trigger believing that it was
    not loaded.

    Do blanks fire anything (maybe just wadding) or is the only thing to come
    out of the barrel the combustion gases?


    (*) Eg a green ring around the barrel of the round and a green fir ing cap - green=safe.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Mon Jan 24 15:36:58 2022
    On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 11:00:21, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote (my
    responses usually follow points raised):
    "Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message >news:7vssugtur4jue28c3jqm7qfe3su6d77kvm@4ax.com...
    A movie armourer once told me that he used several types and strengths
    of blank ammunition, depending on what the director wanted for the
    scene. It might require lots of smoke, a visible flash, or enough
    blast to destroy a prop or a sugar glass window, or maybe some
    combination of the above, and he would load the gun accordingly.
    []
    Do blanks fire anything (maybe just wadding) or is the only thing to
    come out of the barrel the combustion gases?
    []
    I read somewhere that ideally nothing else comes out, but in practice
    there will be wadding, or a cardboard disc, or something (there needs to
    be something in the end to keep the bang-powder inside while the blank
    round is in storage - or in the gun before it is fired), and that for
    that reason, you shouldn't _assume_ nothing comes out; if it's a real
    gun, these items will have to come out somewhere (and the end of the
    barrel is the only opening), and will do so at speed. (There was also at
    least one episode of one of the TV crimis where someone was
    [unintentionally] killed by a blank fired with the barrel actually in
    contact with them.)

    RS's account above implies that there are several grades of blank, too.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Does God believe in people?

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  • From Unsteadyken@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 24 16:16:58 2022
    In article <gWGIS$0aes7hFwjf@a.a>,

    J. P. Gilliver (John) says...

    []
    I read somewhere that ideally nothing else comes out, but in practice
    there will be wadding, or a cardboard disc, or something (there needs to
    be something in the end to keep the bang-powder inside while the blank
    round is in storage - or in the gun before it is fired),


    All the blanks I've fired have had crimped ends, sealed with a
    waterproof lacquer coating like these:

    https://talesfromthesupplydepot.blog/2019/03/29/5-56mm-blank-rounds/


    Apart from going bang, they are also used to propel rifle grenades and
    the like. Unofficially they will propel a pencil a couple of hundred
    yards.

    Firing a blank at a sheet of paper shows a small amount of fine debris
    is expelled, not the sort of stuff you would want in your eyes or
    peppering your face.
    Not as bad as anti-tank projectiles, which give you a face-full of
    rocket exhaust as they depart.





    --
    Ken

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Mon Jan 24 17:26:17 2022
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    [...]
    He fired one of the classic Wild West guns which used black powder (or
    some equivalent) and did produce a considerable amount of smoke and a
    muzzle flash (I think). Also frequently misfired and had to be reloaded.

    I've fired one at a target, the recoil of the gun nearly took my ear
    with it. I wouldn't want to do that again.

    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Mon Jan 24 19:38:53 2022
    On 24/01/2022 17:26, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    I've fired one at a target, the recoil of the gun nearly took my ear
    with it. I wouldn't want to do that again.

    -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk

    It was the number of misfires that surprised me, not like in the films!

    He had a good range of guns to demonstrate to us.

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 24 21:48:40 2022
    On 24/01/2022 11:00, NY wrote:


    How clearly are the rounds of ammunition marked to distinguish between
    live and blank? If blanks looked very clearly different (*), it would be
    easy for an armourer to spot a live round that had got in with blanks.

    I was in the cadets at school.

    It was obvious which were blanks, and which were live; blanks have
    crimped ends, and live ones have bullets sticking out. Pistol bullets
    aren't as big, but even the .22 we used for target shooting had an
    obvious bullet.

    Ultimately the responsibility for ensuring that live rounds are only
    used when the film needs them rests with the armourer. And ideally,
    using a blank wherever possible, with shots being simulated by squibs on
    the objects being fired at.

    I'm not sure in the recent tragic case whether the gun went off
    accidently or whether the actor intentionally pulled the trigger
    believing that it was not loaded.

    AIUI think the actor thought it was a blank. And it wasn't.

    Do blanks fire anything (maybe just wadding) or is the only thing to
    come out of the barrel the combustion gases?

    We had a demo with a sandbag and a Lee-Enfield (WW2 vintage!)

    A rifle loaded with a blank will blow a hole through the sacking around
    a sandbag at point blank range. I'm sure it would take an eye out, and
    might well remove fingers.


    (*) Eg a green ring around the barrel of the round and a green fir ing
    cap - green=safe.

    Andy

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  • From SimonM@21:1/5 to Rink on Tue Jan 25 10:13:35 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    On 23/01/2022 20:34, Rink wrote:
    Op 9-2-2019 om 13:05 schreef Lestrade of the Yard:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ui-mzTCmZPE



    the sound of the gun is before he shoots.....

    If this is the "Drama" channel on UK Freeview, my
    wife often watches (or listens to) it:

    It is often woefully out of sync, but sound was
    late (it's easier to spot sound leading usually).

    Inspector Lynley(?) was about 8-10 frames this
    last week. I don't think there is anybody
    technically competent involved in the TX process.
    It is obviously a technical issue as the entire
    shows have been massively off all the way through.
    They're shot on film too, so there would be a sync
    plop on the leader for telecine to check (and they
    would have done that).


    Note that nowadays there are few points in the TX
    chan in where a human can accurately tell sync.

    Paul R. will confirm that there were two CRT
    displays still used in regional news here, one for
    the Sound Super and one for the TM, to assess sync
    on stuff leaving the studio (and in preview,
    obviously), but that's it, and the studio in
    question does exclusively NCA.

    If something pre-recorded (i.e. all drama, for
    example) gets 'ingested' wildly out, there is no
    magic way it will be spotted before transmission.

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Tue Jan 25 09:59:47 2022
    On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:26:17 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    [...]
    He fired one of the classic Wild West guns which used black powder (or
    some equivalent) and did produce a considerable amount of smoke and a
    muzzle flash (I think). Also frequently misfired and had to be reloaded.

    I've fired one at a target, the recoil of the gun nearly took my ear
    with it. I wouldn't want to do that again.

    I'm nearly 74 and have literally never so much as touched a real
    working firearm in my entire life. For some reason I have absolutely
    zero curiosity about what it's like even to handle one, never mind
    fire one.

    Not that I'm frightened of loud bangs or crazy youthful experiments,
    such as encasing fireworks in clay, or connecting 25V electrolytics
    across 120V radio batteries or liquid filled ones across the mains, or
    pouring paint thinner on a bonfire, or other exciting things of that
    ilk. I've been fascinated by many things over the years, but they
    don't include machinery designed with the sole purpose of punching
    holes in people at a distance.

    Rod.

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Tue Jan 25 09:35:45 2022
    On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:00:21 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    "Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message >news:7vssugtur4jue28c3jqm7qfe3su6d77kvm@4ax.com...
    A movie armourer once told me that he used several types and strengths
    of blank ammunition, depending on what the director wanted for the
    scene. It might require lots of smoke, a visible flash, or enough
    blast to destroy a prop or a sugar glass window, or maybe some
    combination of the above, and he would load the gun accordingly.

    He would always hand the gun directly to the actor immediately before
    the shot (camera shot and gun shot) and shout "live weapon on set",
    and then take it back immediately afterwards, and never entrust this
    to a third party. I don't know if this was a legal requirement but
    it's what this particular armourer did.

    How clearly are the rounds of ammunition marked to distinguish between live >and blank? If blanks looked very clearly different (*), it would be easy for >an armourer to spot a live round that had got in with blanks.

    I don't remember discussing the matter in that sort of detail, but
    armourers in general must be constantly aware that if they get things
    wrong, people can die, just as engineers like myself and my colleagues
    had to be constantly aware that if we made mistakes with electrical
    equipment people could die. I probably never thought to ask because it
    would have been something I effectively already knew because it
    applied to me as well - just a matter of being a responsible person,
    using one's knowledge, training and experience, and taking care

    Rod.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to The Other John on Tue Jan 25 11:08:30 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    "The Other John" <nomail@home.org> wrote in message news:ssojvl$840$1@dont-email.me...
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:13:35 +0000, SimonM wrote:

    Note that nowadays there are few points in the TX chan in where a human
    can accurately tell sync.

    I briefly watched GBNews this morning and the live studio presenters were
    out of sync by about 4 or 6 frames late audio.

    Yes, well you have to allow time for the nerve transmission from the brain
    to the arsehole, since that is the orifice that they speak out of ;-)

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  • From The Other John@21:1/5 to SimonM on Tue Jan 25 10:38:45 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:13:35 +0000, SimonM wrote:

    Note that nowadays there are few points in the TX chan in where a human
    can accurately tell sync.

    I briefly watched GBNews this morning and the live studio presenters were
    out of sync by about 4 or 6 frames late audio.

    --
    TOJ.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Tue Jan 25 11:51:28 2022
    Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:26:17 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    [...]
    He fired one of the classic Wild West guns which used black powder (or
    some equivalent) and did produce a considerable amount of smoke and a
    muzzle flash (I think). Also frequently misfired and had to be reloaded.

    I've fired one at a target, the recoil of the gun nearly took my ear
    with it. I wouldn't want to do that again.

    I'm nearly 74 and have literally never so much as touched a real
    working firearm in my entire life. For some reason I have absolutely
    zero curiosity about what it's like even to handle one, never mind
    fire one.

    Not that I'm frightened of loud bangs or crazy youthful experiments,
    such as encasing fireworks in clay, or connecting 25V electrolytics
    across 120V radio batteries or liquid filled ones across the mains, or pouring paint thinner on a bonfire, or other exciting things of that
    ilk. I've been fascinated by many things over the years, but they
    don't include machinery designed with the sole purpose of punching
    holes in people at a distance.

    My sister and I were both fairly good shots with an air rifle and we
    discovered that my mother had trained as a sniper during WWII, but we
    were never interested in guns beyond that.

    My day on the firing range was the result of making an electronic
    controller for the pneumatically-operated targets at a gun club. They
    gave me some practical experiencewith different firearms as a 'treat'
    for doing the job. It was enough to put me off real guns for life.

    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Tue Jan 25 12:07:47 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    Yes but that one supposes was somebody not doing their job properly. The Americans are too gun infested to be allowed to actually have them, Look at
    the news yesterday where a British tourist was killed in his room by a stray bullet from guns being played with in the street. You did that here and the whole place would be blitzed by police.
    Brian

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    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:j579ikFq5p7U1@mid.individual.net...
    You've heard about the recent tragic accident involving the actor Alec Baldwin on a film set ?!

    On 24/01/2022 08:54, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    Did you know that most filming of guns for tv and films use a special
    charge
    with a more visible muzzle flash or smoke exhaust event? Normal bullets
    and
    cartridges would be made to minimise this, as any military person would
    not
    wish to give away their position by this method.
    However entertainment tends to shoot blanks and needs something to
    appear
    to happen.
    Brian



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  • From NY@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 13:15:33 2022
    "Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:1pmc5ze.nnjwrf1eubq9sN%> My sister and I were both fairly good shots
    with an air rifle and we
    discovered that my mother had trained as a sniper during WWII, but we
    were never interested in guns beyond that.

    My day on the firing range was the result of making an electronic
    controller for the pneumatically-operated targets at a gun club. They
    gave me some practical experiencewith different firearms as a 'treat'
    for doing the job. It was enough to put me off real guns for life.

    I tried .22 rifle shooting as an alternative to more physical sport at
    school, but I was singularly inept at it. Even from a prone position, lying
    on a mat with the rifle supported on my arms as a "tripod". I couldn't hold
    the thing steady enough to get the pellets to hit the target with any consistency - any which did hit (and I occasionally scored remarkably good shots) were the result of pure fluke. It was disheartening for the teacher,
    an elderly and rather doddery man close to retirement age, to demonstrate to
    us how he managed to hit the bull-eye consistently with every single shot.
    He said that no-one should ever need more than three bullets to hit a stationary target: one to assess the accuracy of the sight, one to make a correction for that and a third (if necessary) to fine-tune the correction.
    He got us to prove this by asking one of us to make an arbitrary adjustment
    to the sight in two directions. He missed with the first shot (inevitably),
    got pretty close to the bull on the second and hit the bull with the third.
    He then tweaked the sight back into perfect alignment by eye, being able to judge how many turns of the adjustment corresponded to the error that he had seen. People like that make me feel very inadequate - they are just too good ;-)

    This was from either 100 or 200 metres - I forget which - using a
    bolt-action rifle.

    I remember he counted every spent cartridge case at the end of the lesson
    and made sure this tallied with the number of cartridges that he had issued
    to us.

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  • From =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mr_=D6n!on?=@21:1/5 to williamwright on Tue Jan 25 15:11:33 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

    On 25/01/2022 11:08, NY wrote:


    I briefly watched GBNews this morning and the live studio presenters were >> out of sync by about 4 or 6 frames late audio.

    Yes, well you have to allow time for the nerve transmission from the
    brain to the arsehole, since that is the orifice that they speak out of ;-)

    There are some very illuminating discussions on GB News.

    Bill

    Now we know from whence the Sun shines.

    --
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    When we shake the ketchup bottle
    First none comes and then a lot'll.

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 14:52:04 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    On 25/01/2022 11:08, NY wrote:


    I briefly watched GBNews this morning and the live studio presenters were
    out of sync by about 4 or 6 frames late audio.

    Yes, well you have to allow time for the nerve transmission from the
    brain to the arsehole, since that is the orifice that they speak out of ;-)

    There are some very illuminating discussions on GB News.

    Bill

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  • From tony sayer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 15:22:54 2022
    In article <ssot7a$ak7$1@dont-email.me>, NY <me@privacy.invalid>
    scribeth thus
    "Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message >news:1pmc5ze.nnjwrf1eubq9sN%> My sister and I were both fairly good shots >with an air rifle and we
    discovered that my mother had trained as a sniper during WWII, but we
    were never interested in guns beyond that.

    My day on the firing range was the result of making an electronic
    controller for the pneumatically-operated targets at a gun club. They
    gave me some practical experiencewith different firearms as a 'treat'
    for doing the job. It was enough to put me off real guns for life.

    I tried .22 rifle shooting as an alternative to more physical sport at >school, but I was singularly inept at it. Even from a prone position, lying >on a mat with the rifle supported on my arms as a "tripod". I couldn't hold >the thing steady enough to get the pellets to hit the target with any >consistency - any which did hit (and I occasionally scored remarkably good >shots) were the result of pure fluke. It was disheartening for the teacher, >an elderly and rather doddery man close to retirement age, to demonstrate to >us how he managed to hit the bull-eye consistently with every single shot.
    He said that no-one should ever need more than three bullets to hit a >stationary target: one to assess the accuracy of the sight, one to make a >correction for that and a third (if necessary) to fine-tune the correction. >He got us to prove this by asking one of us to make an arbitrary adjustment >to the sight in two directions. He missed with the first shot (inevitably), >got pretty close to the bull on the second and hit the bull with the third. >He then tweaked the sight back into perfect alignment by eye, being able to >judge how many turns of the adjustment corresponded to the error that he had >seen. People like that make me feel very inadequate - they are just too good >;-)

    This was from either 100 or 200 metres - I forget which - using a
    bolt-action rifle.

    I remember he counted every spent cartridge case at the end of the lesson
    and made sure this tallied with the number of cartridges that he had issued >to us.


    I was bought up with guns dad was an armourour on Hurricanes and Spits
    at Duxford.

    He used to have this high powered .22 cartridge rifle superb machine a
    lot of our neighbours used to have high garden masts in order to get the coveted ITV London on VHF cannel 9 back then so lots of high bird
    perches and lots of targets but from time to time the connection boxes
    and diplexer's were hit and it was quite a job getting access to those
    masts I did wonder how some ofd them were put up!

    After two instances the finger of blame was pointed at my dad who blamed
    me still i was I think a good shot:)

    Two things were drummed into me!

    1. Never ever point a gun at anymore.

    2. When were you pick a gun up or someone hands you one you MUST always
    check it to see if its loaded or not.

    Said rifle was excellent up the local breakers yard cum tip, with the telescopic sights on the rats never stood a chance:))

    Bloody assassins weapon that was;!..
    --
    Tony Sayer


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    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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  • From Paul Ratcliffe@21:1/5 to somewhere@large.in.the.world on Tue Jan 25 19:50:49 2022
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:13:35 +0000, SimonM
    <somewhere@large.in.the.world> wrote:

    Note that nowadays there are few points in the TX
    chan in where a human can accurately tell sync.

    Paul R. will confirm that there were two CRT
    displays still used in regional news here, one for
    the Sound Super and one for the TM, to assess sync
    on stuff leaving the studio (and in preview,
    obviously), but that's it, and the studio in
    question does exclusively NCA.

    One of those has gone, and quite a while ago. Not sure about the
    other. If it hasn't then its days are certainly numbered, cos we
    ain't got no spares. I'll have a look next week, if...

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to williamwright on Wed Jan 26 08:00:53 2022
    XPost: uk.local.south-wales

    Yes and some brain numbing ones as well.
    Whats this morning news channel thing I spotted in the listing?
    I've still not got over GB news being called gigabyte news by my tellies voice.

    Brian

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    "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message news:j5ah4kFelqsU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 25/01/2022 11:08, NY wrote:


    I briefly watched GBNews this morning and the live studio presenters
    were
    out of sync by about 4 or 6 frames late audio.

    Yes, well you have to allow time for the nerve transmission from the
    brain to the arsehole, since that is the orifice that they speak out of
    ;-)

    There are some very illuminating discussions on GB News.

    Bill

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