• 3D numberplates

    From MrSpud_n6@bcy363pj80qzrkeo8.co.uk@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 28 08:27:39 2021
    No idea if anyone still reads this group or the trolls have scared everyone off, but in case someone does , has anyone noticed the sudden prevelance of
    3D style number plates where the letters are raised up plastic moulds?
    Looks bloody ugly to me.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_n6@bcy363pj80qzrkeo8.co.uk on Mon Jun 28 11:34:13 2021
    On 28/06/2021 09:27 am, MrSpud_n6@bcy363pj80qzrkeo8.co.uk wrote:

    No idea if anyone still reads this group or the trolls have scared everyone off, but in case someone does , has anyone noticed the sudden prevelance of 3D style number plates where the letters are raised up plastic moulds?
    Looks bloody ugly to me.

    I can remember a time when all number plates were made like that.

    For example: <https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuIP_KU3QggtJ_NicovI_AJ442beqQZyOmdhCRrmPaJCnqmRKZKEpDOaSpR55F1TiwPjs&usqp=CAU>

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  • From MrSpud_i5jhwq@ox9oeo.org@21:1/5 to JNugent on Mon Jun 28 11:35:11 2021
    On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:34:13 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 28/06/2021 09:27 am, MrSpud_n6@bcy363pj80qzrkeo8.co.uk wrote:

    No idea if anyone still reads this group or the trolls have scared everyone >> off, but in case someone does , has anyone noticed the sudden prevelance of >> 3D style number plates where the letters are raised up plastic moulds?
    Looks bloody ugly to me.

    I can remember a time when all number plates were made like that.

    For example: ><https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuIP_KU3QggtJ_NicovI_AJ4
    42beqQZyOmdhCRrmPaJCnqmRKZKEpDOaSpR55F1TiwPjs&usqp=CAU>

    Fair enough. They look just as amateurish however.

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  • From Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 3 16:42:33 2021
    On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:34:13 +0100, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm>
    wrote:

    On 28/06/2021 09:27 am, MrSpud_n6@bcy363pj80qzrkeo8.co.uk wrote:

    No idea if anyone still reads this group or the trolls have scared everyone >> off, but in case someone does , has anyone noticed the sudden prevelance of >> 3D style number plates where the letters are raised up plastic moulds?
    Looks bloody ugly to me.

    I can remember a time when all number plates were made like that.

    For example: ><https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuIP_KU3QggtJ_NicovI_AJ442beqQZyOmdhCRrmPaJCnqmRKZKEpDOaSpR55F1TiwPjs&usqp=CAU>

    Those didn't reflect light like the modern ones do, did they?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells on Sun Jul 4 01:22:13 2021
    On 04/07/2021 12:42 am, Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells wrote:

    On JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 28/06/2021 09:27 am, MrSpud_n6@bcy363pj80qzrkeo8.co.uk wrote:

    No idea if anyone still reads this group or the trolls have scared everyone >>> off, but in case someone does , has anyone noticed the sudden prevelance of >>> 3D style number plates where the letters are raised up plastic moulds?
    Looks bloody ugly to me.

    I can remember a time when all number plates were made like that.

    For example:
    <https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuIP_KU3QggtJ_NicovI_AJ442beqQZyOmdhCRrmPaJCnqmRKZKEpDOaSpR55F1TiwPjs&usqp=CAU>

    Those didn't reflect light like the modern ones do, did they?

    They did reflect light (otherwise you wouldn't have been... er... able
    to see them).

    Whether that was "like the modern ones", I can't say.

    It is possible that the modern ones are made with better-suited materials.

    But to be accurate, the PP had only commented on their lack of beauty.

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to jennings&co@fastmail.fm on Sun Jul 4 09:01:48 2021
    In message <ikcd9lFlhluU6@mid.individual.net>, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 04/07/2021 12:42 am, Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells wrote:

    On JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 28/06/2021 09:27 am, MrSpud_n6@bcy363pj80qzrkeo8.co.uk wrote:

    No idea if anyone still reads this group or the trolls have scared everyone
    off, but in case someone does , has anyone noticed the sudden prevelance of
    3D style number plates where the letters are raised up plastic moulds? >>>> Looks bloody ugly to me.

    I can remember a time when all number plates were made like that.

    For example:

    <https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuIP_KU3QggtJ_N >>>icovI_AJ442beqQZyOmdhCRrmPaJCnqmRKZKEpDOaSpR55F1TiwPjs&usqp=CAU>
    Those didn't reflect light like the modern ones do, did they?

    They did reflect light (otherwise you wouldn't have been... er... able
    to see them).

    Whether that was "like the modern ones", I can't say.

    It is possible that the modern ones are made with better-suited materials.

    But to be accurate, the PP had only commented on their lack of beauty.

    Actually, the old-style plates only partially reflected the light. The
    backing plate was black - so little light was reflected from it. The
    letters, being white, reflected most of the light - but, of course, had
    a relatively small total surface area.

    However, it was decided that it was desirable to make vehicles more
    visible at night by making the backing plate highly reflective by
    covering it with tiny (glass?) beads, and to distinguish the front from
    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the
    front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and
    not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown
    that yellow was more visible than red.]
    --
    Ian

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  • From Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 4 11:41:29 2021
    On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 01:22:13 +0100, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm>
    wrote:

    On 04/07/2021 12:42 am, Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells wrote:

    On JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 28/06/2021 09:27 am, MrSpud_n6@bcy363pj80qzrkeo8.co.uk wrote:

    No idea if anyone still reads this group or the trolls have scared everyone
    off, but in case someone does , has anyone noticed the sudden prevelance of
    3D style number plates where the letters are raised up plastic moulds? >>>> Looks bloody ugly to me.

    I can remember a time when all number plates were made like that.

    For example:
    <https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuIP_KU3QggtJ_NicovI_AJ442beqQZyOmdhCRrmPaJCnqmRKZKEpDOaSpR55F1TiwPjs&usqp=CAU>

    Those didn't reflect light like the modern ones do, did they?

    They did reflect light (otherwise you wouldn't have been... er... able
    to see them).

    Technically speaking, yes.

    Whether that was "like the modern ones", I can't say.

    It wasn't.

    It is possible that the modern ones are made with better-suited materials.

    They are.

    But to be accurate, the PP had only commented on their lack of beauty.

    All in the eye(s) of the beholder.
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  • From The Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 4 22:02:41 2021
    On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 11:41:29 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells", farted again:


    Technically speaking, yes.

    Technically speaking you ARE a filthy pedo swine, subnormal nazi and psychopathic asshole! Agreed, cretin? <BG>

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    seriously think that a 12-year old who spends 15 hours a day on Facebook doesn't know what's going on?"
    MID: <FnMUE.676068$H25.227834@usenetxs.com>

    So 12-year-olds are your thing, filthy old pedo swine?

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  • From The Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 4 22:00:54 2021
    On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 16:42:33 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells", farted again:


    Those didn't reflect light like the modern ones do, did they?

    Trying to get a foot in urd now, my pedophilic nazoid punching bag?

    Guess what will come of it! LMAO

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    Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
    "Why do we still have outdated laws prohibiting paedophilia?"
    MID: <FnMUE.676068$H25.227834@usenetxs.com>

    You will NEVER understand it, eh, filthy old pedo swine?

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  • From MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Mon Jul 5 08:24:23 2021
    On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 09:01:48 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the
    front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and
    not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown
    that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white
    at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered with that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he gave the obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way around a car
    is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking the number or plate colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 5 10:18:37 2021
    In message <sbufjn$nls$1@gioia.aioe.org>, MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk
    writes
    On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 09:01:48 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the
    front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and
    not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown
    that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white
    at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered with >that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he gave the >obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way around a car
    is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking the number or plate >colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?
    --
    Ian

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  • From MrSpud_r_8A031@km0gurf3edrjmfzdbo.o@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Mon Jul 5 10:44:38 2021
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 10:18:37 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <sbufjn$nls$1@gioia.aioe.org>, MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk
    writes
    On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 09:01:48 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the >>>front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and
    not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown >>>that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white >>at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered with >>that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he gave the >>obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way around a car >>is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking the number or plate >>colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    Nice try at being clever, bad luck it didn't work out. Braking is a fast virtually subconcious action and you need to be able to tell the difference between a car braking in front or a car coming towards you in the other direction instantly. Reading a numberplate however is a slow concious action
    so by the time you've done it you've had plenty of time to tell which way around the car is and which way its going.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Mon Jul 5 14:43:05 2021
    On 05/07/2021 10:18 am, Ian Jackson wrote:

    MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk writes
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the
    front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and
    not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown
    that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white
    at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered
    with that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he
    gave the obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way>
    around a car is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking
    the number or plate colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    +1.

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  • From MrSpud_dko@3v5elh_f5fwkxm.edu@21:1/5 to JNugent on Mon Jul 5 16:05:27 2021
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 14:43:05 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 05/07/2021 10:18 am, Ian Jackson wrote:

    MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk writes
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the
    front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and
    not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown >>>> that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white >>> at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered
    with that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he
    gave the obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way>
    around a car is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking
    the number or plate colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    +1.

    Seriously?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_dko@3v5elh_f5fwkxm.edu on Mon Jul 5 17:17:07 2021
    On 05/07/2021 05:05 pm, MrSpud_dko@3v5elh_f5fwkxm.edu wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 14:43:05 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 05/07/2021 10:18 am, Ian Jackson wrote:

    MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk writes
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the >>>>> front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and >>>>> not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown >>>>> that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white >>>> at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered >>>> with that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he >>>> gave the obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way> >>>> around a car is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking
    the number or plate colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    +1.

    Seriously?

    Yes. I support the point that IJ was making by asking his question.

    it isn't controversial. Every country I've ever been to has a rule that
    front lights are white (or yellow!) and rear lights are red and it is
    fairly obvious that the distinction would be carried through into the
    specified colours of numberplates.

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to MrSpud_r_8A031@km0gurf3edrjmfzdbo.o on Mon Jul 5 17:34:45 2021
    In message <sbunqm$iac$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
    MrSpud_r_8A031@km0gurf3edrjmfzdbo.org writes
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 10:18:37 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <sbufjn$nls$1@gioia.aioe.org>, MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk
    writes
    On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 09:01:48 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the >>>>front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and >>>>not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown >>>>that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white >>>at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered with >>>that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he gave the >>>obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way around a car >>>is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking the number or plate >>>colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    Nice try at being clever, bad luck it didn't work out. Braking is a fast >virtually subconcious action and you need to be able to tell the difference >between a car braking in front or a car coming towards you in the other >direction instantly.

    Who mentioned braking?

    Reading a numberplate however is a slow concious action
    so by the time you've done it you've had plenty of time to tell which way >around the car is and which way its going.

    Who mentioned reading?
    --
    Ian

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to jennings&co@fastmail.fm on Mon Jul 5 19:24:45 2021
    In message <ikgpk2Fgsp9U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 05/07/2021 05:05 pm, MrSpud_dko@3v5elh_f5fwkxm.edu wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 14:43:05 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 05/07/2021 10:18 am, Ian Jackson wrote:

    MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk writes
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the >>>>>> front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and >>>>>> not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown >>>>>> that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white >>>>> at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered >>>>> with that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he >>>>> gave the obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way> >>>>> around a car is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking
    the number or plate colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    +1.
    Seriously?

    Yes. I support the point that IJ was making by asking his question.

    it isn't controversial. Every country I've ever been to has a rule that
    front lights are white (or yellow!) and rear lights are red and it is
    fairly obvious that the distinction would be carried through into the >specified colours of numberplates.

    Having been introduced, the UK plates have stayed white and yellow
    However, the RoI white and red plates (introduced in 1969) didn't last
    for very long (1987?). [Actually, as far as readability is concerned, in
    my opinion the RoI black letters on a red plate were not as readable as
    the UK black on yellow - but at least you initially instinctively
    associated it with the rear of the vehicle.]
    --
    Ian

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  • From MrSpud_m06wob@sptp.info@21:1/5 to JNugent on Tue Jul 6 08:15:35 2021
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 17:17:07 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 05/07/2021 05:05 pm, MrSpud_dko@3v5elh_f5fwkxm.edu wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 14:43:05 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white >>>>> at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered >>>>> with that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he >>>>> gave the obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way> >>>>> around a car is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking
    the number or plate colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    +1.

    Seriously?

    Yes. I support the point that IJ was making by asking his question.

    it isn't controversial. Every country I've ever been to has a rule that
    front lights are white (or yellow!) and rear lights are red and it is
    fairly obvious that the distinction would be carried through into the >specified colours of numberplates.

    Perhaps you missed my reply to him, but its quite useful to know if a car
    is braking ahead instantly without having to watch it first. It is not
    useful to know which way a car is facing when looking at the numberplate
    since at night it would be given away by the lights anyway and in daytime unless you're blind you can see from the car body itself. Therefore having different colour plates is non sensical.

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  • From MrSpud_bszq@shlmhz3f.eu@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Tue Jul 6 08:16:31 2021
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 17:34:45 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <sbunqm$iac$1@gioia.aioe.org>, >MrSpud_r_8A031@km0gurf3edrjmfzdbo.org writes
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 10:18:37 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <sbufjn$nls$1@gioia.aioe.org>, MrSpud_U_mpe3@jjw.gov.uk
    writes
    On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 09:01:48 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    the rear by making the colours different. The obvious choice for the >>>>>front was white, but (rather strangely) the rear was made yellow, and >>>>>not red. [The RoI changed to red, but, apparently, our tests had shown >>>>>that yellow was more visible than red.]

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white >>>>at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered with >>>>that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he gave the >>>>obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way around a car >>>>is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking the number or plate >>>>colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    Nice try at being clever, bad luck it didn't work out. Braking is a fast >>virtually subconcious action and you need to be able to tell the difference >>between a car braking in front or a car coming towards you in the other >>direction instantly.

    Who mentioned braking?

    If the lights are on due to them acting as lights you don't need any
    further indication of which way around the car is so why have coloured
    plates?

    Reading a numberplate however is a slow concious action
    so by the time you've done it you've had plenty of time to tell which way >>around the car is and which way its going.

    Who mentioned reading?

    What else are numberplates for, decoration?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_m06wob@sptp.info on Tue Jul 6 10:33:17 2021
    On 06/07/2021 09:15 am, MrSpud_m06wob@sptp.info wrote:

    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    MrSpud_dko@3v5elh_f5fwkxm.edu wrote:
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates were white
    at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered >>>>>> with that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he >>>>>> gave the obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way> >>>>>> around a car is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking >>>>>> the number or plate colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    +1.

    Seriously?

    Yes. I support the point that IJ was making by asking his question.
    it isn't controversial. Every country I've ever been to has a rule that
    front lights are white (or yellow!) and rear lights are red and it is
    fairly obvious that the distinction would be carried through into the
    specified colours of numberplates.

    Perhaps you missed my reply to him, but its quite useful to know if a car
    is braking ahead instantly without having to watch it first. It is not
    useful to know which way a car is facing when looking at the numberplate since at night it would be given away by the lights anyway and in daytime unless you're blind you can see from the car body itself. Therefore having different colour plates is non sensical.

    Someone else has already pointed out that reading black characters* on a
    yellow background is easier than reading them on a red background, and
    I'm inclined to agree with that.

    [* I hope I'm allowed to say "black characters".]

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to jennings&co@fastmail.fm on Tue Jul 6 11:35:58 2021
    In message <ikimatFrss5U2@mid.individual.net>, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 06/07/2021 09:15 am, MrSpud_m06wob@sptp.info wrote:

    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    MrSpud_dko@3v5elh_f5fwkxm.edu wrote:
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    I was asked once by a foreign aquaintance why UK number plates >>>>>>>were white
    at the front and yellow at the back since no other EU country bothered >>>>>>> with that. I told him so you could tell which was front and back and he >>>>>>> gave the obvious response that if you're too stupid to tell which way> >>>>>>> around a car is just from looking at it the chances of you clocking >>>>>>> the number or plate colour are pretty slim too. He had a point.

    So why have we always had red lights at the rear?

    +1.

    Seriously?

    Yes. I support the point that IJ was making by asking his question.
    it isn't controversial. Every country I've ever been to has a rule that
    front lights are white (or yellow!) and rear lights are red and it is
    fairly obvious that the distinction would be carried through into the
    specified colours of numberplates.

    Perhaps you missed my reply to him, but its quite useful to know if a car
    is braking ahead instantly without having to watch it first. It is not
    useful to know which way a car is facing when looking at the numberplate
    since at night it would be given away by the lights anyway and in daytime
    unless you're blind you can see from the car body itself. Therefore having >> different colour plates is non sensical.

    Someone else has already pointed out that reading black characters* on
    a yellow background is easier than reading them on a red background,
    and I'm inclined to agree with that.

    [* I hope I'm allowed to say "black characters".]

    [On this rare occasion that you agree with me, I'll grant you my
    special, personal permission.]

    Anyway, having different colour plates is not 'non-sensical'. Instead,
    try arguing that it's 'of little advantage'. After all many (if not
    most) countries don't have different coloured plates.
    --
    Ian

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0 on Tue Jul 6 16:04:12 2021
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz wrote:

    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 06/07/2021 09:15 am, MrSpud_m06wob@sptp.info wrote:

    Perhaps you missed my reply to him, but its quite useful to know if a car >>> is braking ahead instantly without having to watch it first. It is not
    useful to know which way a car is facing when looking at the numberplate >>> since at night it would be given away by the lights anyway and in daytime >>> unless you're blind you can see from the car body itself. Therefore having >>> different colour plates is non sensical.

    Someone else has already pointed out that reading black characters* on a
    yellow background is easier than reading them on a red background, and
    I'm inclined to agree with that.

    Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing else will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is obvious
    even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like
    reflectors.

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  • From MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0@21:1/5 to JNugent on Tue Jul 6 14:37:21 2021
    On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 10:33:17 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 06/07/2021 09:15 am, MrSpud_m06wob@sptp.info wrote:
    Perhaps you missed my reply to him, but its quite useful to know if a car
    is braking ahead instantly without having to watch it first. It is not
    useful to know which way a car is facing when looking at the numberplate
    since at night it would be given away by the lights anyway and in daytime
    unless you're blind you can see from the car body itself. Therefore having >> different colour plates is non sensical.

    Someone else has already pointed out that reading black characters* on a >yellow background is easier than reading them on a red background, and
    I'm inclined to agree with that.

    Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing else will save money.

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  • From MrSpud_p51@7hadkmg6_2t7rlet.com@21:1/5 to JNugent on Tue Jul 6 15:30:44 2021
    On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 16:04:12 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz wrote:

    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 06/07/2021 09:15 am, MrSpud_m06wob@sptp.info wrote:

    Perhaps you missed my reply to him, but its quite useful to know if a car >>>> is braking ahead instantly without having to watch it first. It is not >>>> useful to know which way a car is facing when looking at the numberplate >>>> since at night it would be given away by the lights anyway and in daytime >>>> unless you're blind you can see from the car body itself. Therefore having >>>> different colour plates is non sensical.

    Someone else has already pointed out that reading black characters* on a >>> yellow background is easier than reading them on a red background, and
    I'm inclined to agree with that.

    Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why don't >> we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing else

    will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is obvious
    even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like
    reflectors.

    And that matters because?

    "Mr Poirot, I saw the car parked north-south, not south-north that night"
    "Aha, in that case I have solved zee case!"

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to jennings&co@fastmail.fm on Tue Jul 6 20:13:05 2021
    In message <ikj9ncF1375U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz wrote:

    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 06/07/2021 09:15 am, MrSpud_m06wob@sptp.info wrote:

    Perhaps you missed my reply to him, but its quite useful to know if a car >>>> is braking ahead instantly without having to watch it first. It is not >>>> useful to know which way a car is facing when looking at the numberplate >>>> since at night it would be given away by the lights anyway and in daytime >>>> unless you're blind you can see from the car body itself. Therefore having >>>> different colour plates is non sensical.

    Someone else has already pointed out that reading black characters* on a >>> yellow background is easier than reading them on a red background, and
    I'm inclined to agree with that.
    Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why >>don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing else
    will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is obvious
    even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like
    reflectors.

    In the dark, the direction of a parked, unlit vehicle should be
    reasonably obvious by the presence of its passive red rear reflectors.
    However, the use of different colour reflective plates will certainly
    provide additional useful information.
    --
    Ian

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  • From MrSpud_egmx@3dr_5we13k36c_.edu@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Wed Jul 7 07:39:29 2021
    On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:13:05 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <ikj9ncF1375U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent ><jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz wrote:
    Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why >>>don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing >else
    will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is obvious
    even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like >>reflectors.

    In the dark, the direction of a parked, unlit vehicle should be
    reasonably obvious by the presence of its passive red rear reflectors. >However, the use of different colour reflective plates will certainly
    provide additional useful information.

    Who the hell cares which way around a car is parked in the dark?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_egmx@3dr_5we13k36c_.edu on Wed Jul 7 12:08:58 2021
    On 07/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_egmx@3dr_5we13k36c_.edu wrote:
    On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:13:05 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <ikj9ncF1375U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
    <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz wrote:
    Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why >>>> don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing >> else
    will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is obvious
    even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like
    reflectors.

    In the dark, the direction of a parked, unlit vehicle should be
    reasonably obvious by the presence of its passive red rear reflectors.
    However, the use of different colour reflective plates will certainly
    provide additional useful information.

    Who the hell cares which way around a car is parked in the dark?

    The law of the land does, for a start. The idea is that you pass red
    lights or reflectors to the right, white to their left.

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  • From MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Jul 7 11:19:11 2021
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:08:58 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_egmx@3dr_5we13k36c_.edu wrote:
    On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:13:05 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <ikj9ncF1375U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
    <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz wrote: >>>>> Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why >>>>> don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing >>> else
    will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is obvious
    even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like
    reflectors.

    In the dark, the direction of a parked, unlit vehicle should be
    reasonably obvious by the presence of its passive red rear reflectors.
    However, the use of different colour reflective plates will certainly
    provide additional useful information.

    Who the hell cares which way around a car is parked in the dark?

    The law of the land does, for a start. The idea is that you pass red
    lights or reflectors to the right, white to their left.

    Huh? The law of what land? Not the UK I can assure you where you can park in any direction you like. Some anally retentive countries like canada might
    care but ironically they have the same colour plates on the front and rear.

    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, white
    on the right.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk on Wed Jul 7 12:44:09 2021
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:08:58 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_egmx@3dr_5we13k36c_.edu wrote:
    On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:13:05 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <ikj9ncF1375U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
    <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz wrote: >>>>>> Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why >>>>>> don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing >>>> else
    will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is obvious >>>>> even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like
    reflectors.

    In the dark, the direction of a parked, unlit vehicle should be
    reasonably obvious by the presence of its passive red rear reflectors. >>>> However, the use of different colour reflective plates will certainly
    provide additional useful information.

    Who the hell cares which way around a car is parked in the dark?

    The law of the land does, for a start. The idea is that you pass red
    lights or reflectors to the right, white to their left.

    Huh? The law of what land? Not the UK I can assure you where you can park in any direction you like. Some anally retentive countries like canada might care but ironically they have the same colour plates on the front and rear.

    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, white
    on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the road
    during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

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  • From MrSpud_iqbZ4@ejavm966b5308rqn34zz.n@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Jul 7 13:45:23 2021
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:44:09 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, white
    on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the road >during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Utter rubbish. Who told you that?

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  • From MrSpud_9vocIt1m@fnx3.tv@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Wed Jul 7 13:55:56 2021
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 14:49:56 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <iklic9Fea8nU1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent ><jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the
    road during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Indeed. After dark you must not park on the 'wrong' side of the road
    except in a designated parking space. In some countries, you must ALWAYS
    park on the correct side.

    We're not talking about other countries , we're talking about the UK and
    no, you won't get a ticket for it.

    Highway Code, rule 248 states: ‘you MUST NOT park on a road at night
    facing against the direction of the traffic flow unless in a recognised >parking space’.

    If that ancient rule were enforced half the cars parked on suburban streets in the UK would get a ticket.

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to jennings&co@fastmail.fm on Wed Jul 7 14:49:56 2021
    In message <iklic9Fea8nU1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:08:58 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_egmx@3dr_5we13k36c_.edu wrote:
    On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:13:05 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <ikj9ncF1375U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
    <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz wrote: >>>>>>> Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. So why >>>>>>> don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if nothing
    else
    will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is obvious >>>>>> even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like
    reflectors.

    In the dark, the direction of a parked, unlit vehicle should be
    reasonably obvious by the presence of its passive red rear reflectors. >>>>> However, the use of different colour reflective plates will certainly >>>>> provide additional useful information.

    Who the hell cares which way around a car is parked in the dark?

    The law of the land does, for a start. The idea is that you pass red
    lights or reflectors to the right, white to their left.
    Huh? The law of what land? Not the UK I can assure you where you can
    park in
    any direction you like. Some anally retentive countries like canada might
    care but ironically they have the same colour plates on the front and rear. >> Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left,
    white
    on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the
    road during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Indeed. After dark you must not park on the 'wrong' side of the road
    except in a designated parking space. In some countries, you must ALWAYS
    park on the correct side.

    Highway Code, rule 248 states: ‘you MUST NOT park on a road at night
    facing against the direction of the traffic flow unless in a recognised
    parking space’.
    --
    Ian

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_iqbZ4@ejavm966b5308rqn34zz.n on Wed Jul 7 15:26:24 2021
    On 07/07/2021 02:45 pm, MrSpud_iqbZ4@ejavm966b5308rqn34zz.net wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:44:09 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, white >>> on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the road
    during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Utter rubbish. Who told you that?

    The police officer who put the FPN on my car parked outside my mother's terraced house.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Wed Jul 7 15:26:55 2021
    On 07/07/2021 02:49 pm, Ian Jackson wrote:
    In message <iklic9Fea8nU1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:08:58 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_egmx@3dr_5we13k36c_.edu wrote:
    On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:13:05 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <ikj9ncF1375U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
    <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    On 06/07/2021 03:37 pm, MrSpud_cBk81tiqr@qkaa_ypmhyrv0429y0.biz
    wrote:
       Probably, and reading black on white is probably even easier. >>>>>>>> So why
    don't
    we ditch the yellow rear plate and make them both white which if >>>>>>>> nothing
    else
    will save money.

    In the dark, the distinction between front and rear plates is
    obvious
    even when the vehicle is not showing any other lights. A bit like >>>>>>> reflectors.

    In the dark, the direction of a parked, unlit vehicle should be
    reasonably obvious by the presence of its passive red rear
    reflectors.
    However, the use of different colour reflective plates will certainly >>>>>> provide additional useful information.

    Who the hell cares which way around a car is parked in the dark?

    The law of the land does, for a start. The idea is that you pass red
    lights or reflectors to the right, white to their left.
     Huh? The law of what land? Not the UK I can assure you where you can
    park in
    any direction you like. Some anally retentive countries like canada
    might
    care but ironically they have the same colour plates on the front and
    rear.
     Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left,
    white
    on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the
    road during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Indeed. After dark you must not park on the 'wrong' side of the road
    except in a designated parking space. In some countries, you must ALWAYS
    park on the correct side.

    Highway Code, rule 248 states: ‘you MUST NOT park on a road at night
    facing against the direction of the traffic flow unless in a recognised parking space’.

    Thank you.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_9vocIt1m@fnx3.tv on Wed Jul 7 15:30:12 2021
    On 07/07/2021 02:55 pm, MrSpud_9vocIt1m@fnx3.tv wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 14:49:56 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <iklic9Fea8nU1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
    <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> writes
    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the
    road during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Indeed. After dark you must not park on the 'wrong' side of the road
    except in a designated parking space. In some countries, you must ALWAYS
    park on the correct side.

    We're not talking about other countries , we're talking about the UK and
    no, you won't get a ticket for it.

    Highway Code, rule 248 states: ‘you MUST NOT park on a road at night >> facing against the direction of the traffic flow unless in a recognised
    parking space’.

    If that ancient rule were enforced half the cars parked on suburban streets in
    the UK would get a ticket.

    In London (where I was living), the rule is rarely enforced, so much so
    that no-one I knew had ever heard of it.

    In Liverpool, it was and may still be enforced sporadically. I suspect
    that I was the "victim" of a probationer PC and his or her puppy-walking sergeant. This was in a cul-de-sac terraced street with (of course) no
    through traffic. FPNs then still cost £2.

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  • From MrSpud_j_drw5@6_kumjiw3lpb.gov@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Jul 7 15:47:31 2021
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 15:26:24 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 02:45 pm, MrSpud_iqbZ4@ejavm966b5308rqn34zz.net wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:44:09 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, white >>>> on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the road >>> during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Utter rubbish. Who told you that?

    The police officer who put the FPN on my car parked outside my mother's >terraced house.

    Plods haven't dished out parking tickets for decades. Have another go.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_j_drw5@6_kumjiw3lpb.gov on Wed Jul 7 16:57:57 2021
    On 07/07/2021 04:47 pm, MrSpud_j_drw5@6_kumjiw3lpb.gov wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 15:26:24 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 02:45 pm, MrSpud_iqbZ4@ejavm966b5308rqn34zz.net wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:44:09 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, white >>>>> on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the road >>>> during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Utter rubbish. Who told you that?

    The police officer who put the FPN on my car parked outside my mother's
    terraced house.

    Plods haven't dished out parking tickets for decades. Have another go.

    It was decades ago.

    The law is still in place and the same.

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  • From MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.c@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Jul 8 07:39:40 2021
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 16:57:57 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 04:47 pm, MrSpud_j_drw5@6_kumjiw3lpb.gov wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 15:26:24 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 02:45 pm, MrSpud_iqbZ4@ejavm966b5308rqn34zz.net wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:44:09 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, white

    on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the road >>>>> during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Utter rubbish. Who told you that?

    The police officer who put the FPN on my car parked outside my mother's
    terraced house.

    Plods haven't dished out parking tickets for decades. Have another go.

    It was decades ago.

    The law is still in place and the same.

    So was being able to shoot a welshman with an arrow within the walls of
    Chester until a few years back. However an unenforced law is an irrelevant
    law and anyone who got a ticket now for parking in the wrong direction
    would almost certainly win any appeal as signs or painted lines are now required by law to inform drivers of parking restrictions.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.c on Thu Jul 8 11:03:24 2021
    On 08/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.com wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 16:57:57 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 04:47 pm, MrSpud_j_drw5@6_kumjiw3lpb.gov wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 15:26:24 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 02:45 pm, MrSpud_iqbZ4@ejavm966b5308rqn34zz.net wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:44:09 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, white

    on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the road >>>>>> during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Utter rubbish. Who told you that?

    The police officer who put the FPN on my car parked outside my mother's >>>> terraced house.

    Plods haven't dished out parking tickets for decades. Have another go.

    It was decades ago.

    The law is still in place and the same.

    So was being able to shoot a welshman with an arrow within the walls of Chester until a few years back. However an unenforced law is an irrelevant law and anyone who got a ticket now for parking in the wrong direction
    would almost certainly win any appeal as signs or painted lines are now required by law to inform drivers of parking restrictions.

    The law is still in place.

    Not "until a few years back".

    *Now*.

    The Road Vehicle (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986:

    <https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/101/made>

    QUOTE:
    101.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2) no person shall, except with
    the except with the permission of a police officer in a uniform, cause
    or permit any motor vehicle to stand on a road at any time between half
    an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise unless the *near*
    *side* of the vehicle is as close as may be to the edge of the carriageway. ENDQUOTE

    Paragraph (2) contains exceptions for police cars, ambulances, roadworks vehicles, etc, as well as for one-way streets and marked out parking places.

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  • From MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo77@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Jul 8 11:40:04 2021
    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 11:03:24 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.com wrote:
    So was being able to shoot a welshman with an arrow within the walls of
    Chester until a few years back. However an unenforced law is an irrelevant >> law and anyone who got a ticket now for parking in the wrong direction
    would almost certainly win any appeal as signs or painted lines are now
    required by law to inform drivers of parking restrictions.

    The law is still in place.

    Plenty of unenforced laws are still in place.

    Not "until a few years back".

    *Now*.

    Since when is 1986 now?

    QUOTE:
    101.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2) no person shall, except with
    the except with the permission of a police officer in a uniform, cause
    or permit any motor vehicle to stand on a road at any time between half
    an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise unless the *near*
    *side* of the vehicle is as close as may be to the edge of the carriageway. >ENDQUOTE

    There is no way in hell that could or would ever be enforced now. As I said, parking restrictions by law need a sign or a road marking to be enforcable.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo77 on Thu Jul 8 15:35:39 2021
    On 08/07/2021 12:40 pm, MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo776.biz wrote:

    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.com wrote:

    So was being able to shoot a welshman with an arrow within the walls of
    Chester until a few years back. However an unenforced law is an irrelevant >>> law and anyone who got a ticket now for parking in the wrong direction
    would almost certainly win any appeal as signs or painted lines are now
    required by law to inform drivers of parking restrictions.

    The law is still in place.

    Plenty of unenforced laws are still in place.

    Not "until a few years back".
    *Now*.

    Since when is 1986 now?

    The 1986 Act is in force now. It also specifies the condition in which a vehicle must be maintained (lights, tyres, brakes, visibility, security
    of seats, etc.).

    Acts don't have to be replaced every few years. They don't "run out".
    There is still legislation from 1847 on the statute book (and yes, part
    of it relates to obstructive vehicles) and probably from earlier than that.

    QUOTE:
    101.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2) no person shall, except with
    the except with the permission of a police officer in a uniform, cause
    or permit any motor vehicle to stand on a road at any time between half
    an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise unless the *near*
    *side* of the vehicle is as close as may be to the edge of the carriageway. >> ENDQUOTE

    There is no way in hell that could or would ever be enforced now. As I said, parking restrictions by law need a sign or a road marking to be enforcable.

    The one about parking with the nearside to the kerb does not need signs
    or markings. Everyone knows which is the nearside of a vehicle and
    everyone knows where the kerb "edge of carriageway") is.

    What is your problem with this?

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  • From MrSpud_qfD@yu3s26wv93kgq2j7wa2ia8.o@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Jul 8 14:43:31 2021
    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:35:39 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 12:40 pm, MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo776.biz wrote:
    Since when is 1986 now?

    The 1986 Act is in force now. It also specifies the condition in which a >vehicle must be maintained (lights, tyres, brakes, visibility, security
    of seats, etc.).

    See my example about shooting welshmen in Chester.

    There is no way in hell that could or would ever be enforced now. As I said, >> parking restrictions by law need a sign or a road marking to be enforcable.

    The one about parking with the nearside to the kerb does not need signs
    or markings. Everyone knows which is the nearside of a vehicle and
    everyone knows where the kerb "edge of carriageway") is.

    What is your problem with this?

    Its not taught in driving lessons either in the car or in the theory test.
    It cannot be enforced because it would not be upheld in court. If it could councils would be making hay with it as we speak.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to MrSpud_qfD@yu3s26wv93kgq2j7wa2ia8.o on Thu Jul 8 15:47:56 2021
    On 08/07/2021 03:43 pm, MrSpud_qfD@yu3s26wv93kgq2j7wa2ia8.org wrote:

    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 12:40 pm, MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo776.biz wrote:

    Since when is 1986 now?

    The 1986 Act is in force now. It also specifies the condition in which a
    vehicle must be maintained (lights, tyres, brakes, visibility, security
    of seats, etc.).

    See my example about shooting welshmen in Chester.

    What about it?

    There is no way in hell that could or would ever be enforced now. As I said,
    parking restrictions by law need a sign or a road marking to be enforcable.

    The one about parking with the nearside to the kerb does not need signs
    or markings. Everyone knows which is the nearside of a vehicle and
    everyone knows where the kerb "edge of carriageway") is.

    What is your problem with this?

    Its not taught in driving lessons either in the car or in the theory test.

    So what? A lot of things aren't.

    On that basis, anyone who passed their test before late 1967 could argue
    that the Breathalyser can't apply to them because they weren't asked
    about on their driving test (there was no separate theory test then).

    It cannot be enforced because it would not be upheld in court. If it could councils would be making hay with it as we speak.

    What makes you say that the law of the land would not be upheld in court
    when a prosecution is brought?

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo77 on Thu Jul 8 15:55:10 2021
    In message <sc6o6k$1dm9$1@gioia.aioe.org>, MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo776.biz writes
    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 11:03:24 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 08:39 am, MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.com wrote:
    So was being able to shoot a welshman with an arrow within the walls of
    Chester until a few years back. However an unenforced law is an irrelevant >>> law and anyone who got a ticket now for parking in the wrong direction
    would almost certainly win any appeal as signs or painted lines are now
    required by law to inform drivers of parking restrictions.

    The law is still in place.

    Plenty of unenforced laws are still in place.

    Not "until a few years back".

    *Now*.

    Since when is 1986 now?

    Once a law is enacted, it stays in force until it is either rescinded or amended. It doesn't cease to apply the following year. [But, of course,
    you know that.]

    QUOTE:
    101.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2) no person shall, except with
    the except with the permission of a police officer in a uniform, cause
    or permit any motor vehicle to stand on a road at any time between half
    an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise unless the *near* >>*side* of the vehicle is as close as may be to the edge of the carriageway. >>ENDQUOTE

    There is no way in hell that could or would ever be enforced now. As I said, >parking restrictions by law need a sign or a road marking to be enforcable.

    Don't be silly. There are countless thousands of situations where laws
    apply, but don't require signage to make you aware of them. And
    ignorance of then law is no defence.

    I'm sure a person of your calibre knows, for example, that "unless an
    order has been made and the road is signed to the contrary, a 30 mph
    speed limit applies where there are three or more lamps throwing light
    on the carriageway and placed not more than 183 metres apart". [Google
    '30 limit street lights distance'.] Or, if you want a totally ridiculous example, when did you ever see any signs saying "Murder is illegal"?
    [It's back under the bridge time,]
    --
    Ian

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  • From Nick Finnigan@21:1/5 to MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.c on Thu Jul 8 22:30:00 2021
    On 08/07/2021 08:39, MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.com wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 16:57:57 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    The law is still in place and the same.

    So was being able to shoot a welshman with an arrow within the walls of Chester until a few years back.

    Which law was that?

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  • From Nick Finnigan@21:1/5 to MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo77 on Thu Jul 8 22:30:42 2021
    On 08/07/2021 12:40, MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo776.biz wrote:

    There is no way in hell that could or would ever be enforced now. As I said, parking restrictions by law need a sign or a road marking to be enforcable.


    Which law is that ?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nick Finnigan@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Jul 8 22:25:22 2021
    On 07/07/2021 16:57, JNugent wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 04:47 pm, MrSpud_j_drw5@6_kumjiw3lpb.gov wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 15:26:24 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 02:45 pm, MrSpud_iqbZ4@ejavm966b5308rqn34zz.net wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:44:09 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 07/07/2021 12:19 pm, MrSpud_6pv@l8kpn0fs3j3xh.ac.uk wrote:
    Also ITYF in a RHD country like the UK it would be red on the left, >>>>>> white
    on the right.

    I was talking about which side of them you *pass*.

    You can definitely get a FPN for parking on the "wrong" side of the road >>>>> during the hours of darkness. Even with lights on.

    Utter rubbish. Who told you that?

    The police officer who put the FPN on my car parked outside my mother's
    terraced house.

    Plods haven't dished out parking tickets for decades. Have another go.

    It was decades ago.

    The law is still in place and the same.

    Regulation 101 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations
    1986 may well not have been amended, but in controlled parking zones you
    can not get a FPN for contravening it.

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  • From MrSpud_Fmib0@7te34tivyt92gy.com@21:1/5 to JNugent on Fri Jul 9 08:43:43 2021
    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:47:56 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 03:43 pm, MrSpud_qfD@yu3s26wv93kgq2j7wa2ia8.org wrote:
    See my example about shooting welshmen in Chester.

    What about it?

    Have a think.

    Its not taught in driving lessons either in the car or in the theory test.

    So what? A lot of things aren't.

    If it was enforced it would be rather fundamental, you know, like yellow lines etc. In lessons during parking exercises it would certainly come up don't
    you think?

    On that basis, anyone who passed their test before late 1967 could argue
    that the Breathalyser can't apply to them because they weren't asked
    about on their driving test (there was no separate theory test then).

    You mean they won't have seen all the xmas ads and all the stories in newspapers and on TV about drunk driving?

    It cannot be enforced because it would not be upheld in court. If it could >> councils would be making hay with it as we speak.

    What makes you say that the law of the land would not be upheld in court
    when a prosecution is brought?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Freeman

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  • From MrSpud_aq@7iqgw.ac.uk@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Fri Jul 9 08:45:34 2021
    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:55:10 +0100
    Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <sc6o6k$1dm9$1@gioia.aioe.org>, >MrSpud_vm2uF7U3ej@qv6_8no5syxtxdo776.biz writes
    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 11:03:24 +0100
    There is no way in hell that could or would ever be enforced now. As I said, >>parking restrictions by law need a sign or a road marking to be enforcable. >>
    Don't be silly. There are countless thousands of situations where laws
    apply, but don't require signage to make you aware of them. And
    ignorance of then law is no defence.

    Don't be obstuse, there are laws and then there are laws that no one gives
    a shit about and arn't enforced by either the police or councils. This will
    be one of them.

    I'm sure a person of your calibre knows, for example, that "unless an
    order has been made and the road is signed to the contrary, a 30 mph
    speed limit applies where there are three or more lamps throwing light
    on the carriageway and placed not more than 183 metres apart". [Google

    That comes up in the theory and practical tests.

    '30 limit street lights distance'.] Or, if you want a totally ridiculous >example, when did you ever see any signs saying "Murder is illegal"?
    [It's back under the bridge time,]

    Are you seriously comparing murder to an obscure parking bylaw? Don't be
    a fucking ass.

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  • From MrSpud_qhqGc1@yp_plp.gov.uk@21:1/5 to Nick Finnigan on Fri Jul 9 08:46:31 2021
    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 22:30:00 +0100
    Nick Finnigan <Nix@genie.co.uk> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 08:39, MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.com wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 16:57:57 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    The law is still in place and the same.

    So was being able to shoot a welshman with an arrow within the walls of
    Chester until a few years back.

    Which law was that?

    www.google.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nick Finnigan@21:1/5 to MrSpud_qhqGc1@yp_plp.gov.uk on Sun Jul 11 17:15:42 2021
    On 09/07/2021 09:46, MrSpud_qhqGc1@yp_plp.gov.uk wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 22:30:00 +0100
    Nick Finnigan <Nix@genie.co.uk> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 08:39, MrSpud_3adesmou7@ovb6wf8h1a93zy9d.com wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 16:57:57 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    The law is still in place and the same.

    So was being able to shoot a welshman with an arrow within the walls of
    Chester until a few years back.

    Which law was that?

    www.google.com


    Doesn't help. Which law was that?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Roman the Foreskin PEELER@21:1/5 to MrSpud_Fmib0@7te34tivyt92gy.com on Tue Jul 13 14:34:05 2021
    On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 08:43:43 +0000 (UTC),
    MrSpud_Fmib0@7te34tivyt92gy.com wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:47:56 +0100
    JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    On 08/07/2021 03:43 pm, MrSpud_qfD@yu3s26wv93kgq2j7wa2ia8.org wrote:
    See my example about shooting welshmen in Chester.

    What about it?

    Have a think.

    Its not taught in driving lessons either in the car or in the theory test. >>
    So what? A lot of things aren't.

    If it was enforced it would be rather fundamental, you know, like yellow lines >etc. In lessons during parking exercises it would certainly come up don't
    you think?

    On that basis, anyone who passed their test before late 1967 could argue >>that the Breathalyser can't apply to them because they weren't asked
    about on their driving test (there was no separate theory test then).

    You mean they won't have seen all the xmas ads and all the stories in >newspapers and on TV about drunk driving?

    It cannot be enforced because it would not be upheld in court. If it could >>> councils would be making hay with it as we speak.

    What makes you say that the law of the land would not be upheld in court >>when a prosecution is brought?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Freeman

    Classic example of a sleazy jew shyshter.

    --

    The Illiterate Foreskin Peeling Grik anus admits he got
    no life AT ALL outside stalking on THE Usenet!
    "Frankly, if he were gone, I wouldn't know what to do here."
    Message-ID: <FCOQt.107901$hp7.96925@fx13.fr7>

    The Illiterate Foreskin Peeling Grik anus, defending his fellow
    Grik sodomite the Grikboxer and under the delusion that he's
    been able to grow a pair: "You'd have to get past me first,"
    Message-ID: <LOOQt.337647$Qr2.32934@fx08.fr7>

    Yet more proof that the Illiterate Foreskin Peeling Grik anus
    thinks he got a pair: "Just to let you know: ANYONE who "befriends"
    the subnormal swine will have to deal with me! Get ready, bitch!"
    Message-ID: <FHg6t.166438$Nl5.48106@newsfe07.iad>

    The Illiterate Foreskin Peeling Grik anus STILL seems to think
    he got a pair: "Which will NEVER happen! You'd have to get past
    me first, poor psycho! LOL"
    Message-ID: <MCSIu.1$c56.0@fx32.fr7>

    The Illiterate Foreskin Peeling Grik anus having still MORE delusions
    about growing a pair: "If ANYONE dared to grab me by the neck
    like that he'd get my fist in his face."
    Message-ID: <qeilfu$iog$1@gioia.aioe.org>

    In spite of all the evidence, the Illiterate Foreskin Peeling Grik anus
    STILL has delusions about growing a pair!
    "What kind of other-worldly pussies (men?) are you all? If someone
    would dare to grab me by the back of my neck like that and push me
    around, my instinctive, AUTOMATIC reaction would be to knock him in
    the face! NOBODY is allowed to do that to ANYONE!"
    Message-ID: <qfnPE.73303$YG3.18805@usenetxs.com>

    Best of all! From the Foreskin Peeler's doctoral dissertation in divinity, 'University' of Salonica (1992): "The jew g-d is your g-d's dad."

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  • From The Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 14 00:17:30 2021
    On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:34:05 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Roman the Foreskin PEELER",
    farted again:


    Classic example of a sleazy jew shyshter.

    Classic example of a typical clinically insane pedophilic nazitard, you
    filthy old pedo swine!

    --
    Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
    "A lowering of the age of consent to reflect the rate at which today's youngsters 'mature'."
    MID: <gKNUE.1374684$Szs1.984965@usenetxs.com>

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