• [Cycling] Self-entitled cyclists at their worst

    From Spike@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 29 15:07:22 2024
    “They have all the resources in the world to pick on cyclists”: Council slammed for stopping and fining cyclists on pedestrianised city centre
    street

    South Wales Police has issued over a dozen Fixed Penalty Notices to
    cyclists riding on the “popular” city centre route in the last two months by ADWITIYA PAL FRI, JAN 12, 2024 15:57

    Cyclists have slammed Cardiff City Council's latest social media post about
    the crackdown on cyclists on the only pedestrianised street in the city
    centre, raising concerns about the rising trend of picking on cyclists, including commuters and delivery riders who are allegedly seen as easy
    targets by the police.

    In the social media post, the council states that city centre wardens,
    joined forces with South Wales Police to enforce the no-cycling rule along Queen Street. It said: "Between October-December, OpCastor has seen: 504 cyclists stopped, 98 stolen OvoBikes seized, 14 fixed penalty notices
    issued, [and] two Section 59s issued to electric scooter riders."

    Queen Street is one of the three major streets curtailed off to vehicles in Cardiff's city centre. However, it is the only one where cycling is
    officially banned. In fact, it has been illegal ever since the street was pedestrianised in 1974, yet it is far from an uncommon sight to see riders, partially because it is a busy shopping area with a number of cafes and
    retail stores, as well as because it runs along the horizontal length of
    almost the entirety of the city centre, starting from Newport Road on one
    end and opening up at Duke Street on the other.

    The cyclists stopped and fined in the past couple of months were part of Operation Castor, a SWP initiative aimed at "tackling bike crime through education and enforcement", with people signing up with the force as police community support officers (PSCO) and taking on the responsibility of
    dealing with cyclists illegally riding on Queen Street.

    The reaction to the council revealing the figures on social media has been
    sort of mixed, with some people agreeing that cycling shouldn't be allowed
    and even asking for further bans in the rest of the city centre. However, cyclists seemed to be in unison in criticising the council's decision to
    police cyclists strictly while ignoring other behaviours which could potentially endanger pedestrians and wheelers, such as pavement parking and speeding.

    Michael Young said: "Cycling should be allowed on Queen Street. It's wide enough for a designated section to be put aside. This is anti-cycling
    nonsense. Shame on you all.", while another Twitter account named Scowling Monkey wrote: "Please can we see instead a focus on the awful driving
    standards around the city. They put far more citizens at risk of severe
    injury or death than a few folk cycling down Queen Street. I am far more interested in seeing you crack down on irresponsible and dangerous
    drivers."

    Another account on Twitter called @closepassescdf, which documents near
    misses by motorists on cyclists in Cardiff, asked the council if Operation Castor still potentially breaking the law by targeting disabled cyclists
    with adapted bikes, as was allegedly confirmed by the council's official
    social media account last year.

    Council “escalates war on cycling menaces” with new town centre ban, saying: “We will not stop until we eradicate this behaviour”

    Meanwhile, Penny Dinh on Twitter said: "The council can’t afford to pay bin collectors liveable wages (link is external). The council has no resources
    to crack down on landlords guilty of illegal evictions. Yet they have all
    the resources in the world to pick on cyclists, many of whom are precarious gig-economy workers. Make it make sense!"

    On Facebook, Paul Rock argued that if Queen Street was pedestrianised
    today, it would have been designed to allow cycling as other streets have
    been. He added: "The police always has the power to deal with people who
    cycle dangerously. The status and design of Queen Street needs to be
    reviewed in the light of why it has become such a popular route for
    cyclists.

    road.cc has contacted Cardiff City Council for comment.

    Despite cycling being banned on Queen Street, it is not however, a breach
    of the infamous Public Space Protection Order (PSPO), which has been used
    by many councils in the last couple of years to charge hefty fines from cyclists.

    Just last month, North Lincolnshire Council said that it has "escalated"
    and “intensified” its "war on cycling menaces" by implementing a complete ban on riding a bike in pedestrianised zones, as part of a wider crackdown
    on anti-social behaviour.

    Following a public consultation earlier this year, the council announced
    the PSPO will be in place in Scunthorpe and Brigg, while also introducing stronger powers and increasing fines for what the local authority described
    as the "scourge" of "irresponsible behaviour".

    In March, the North Lincolnshire Council leader Rob Waltham came under fire from cyclists for his rhetoric. He said: “Residents are fed up and we are
    fed up with that small minority of people who think the rules do not apply
    to them.

    "We have taken a zero-tolerance approach to anti-social behaviour, and we
    have spent a great deal of time - and taxpayers' money - to crack down on
    these people already. Despite this, they just will not listen nor learn.

    In the past, PSPOs have also been used to target the elderly as well. In
    2022, an 82-year-old cyclist was fined £100 for riding in the Grimsby town centre. However, he defied them by saying he would rather go to jail than a
    pay a fine.

    I've been riding my bike around here for 40 years and have never once been fined," he said. "When he gave it to me I told him, 'stick it up your
    arse'."

    <https://road.cc/content/news/council-slammed-fining-cyclists-city-centre-street-306165>

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu Feb 29 15:40:47 2024
    Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:

    “They have all the resources in the world to pick on cyclists”: Council slammed for stopping and fining cyclists on pedestrianised city centre
    street

    South Wales Police has issued over a dozen Fixed Penalty Notices to
    cyclists riding on the “popular” city centre route in the last two months by ADWITIYA PAL FRI, JAN 12, 2024 15:57

    Cyclists have slammed Cardiff City Council's latest social media post about the crackdown on cyclists on the only pedestrianised street in the city centre, raising concerns about the rising trend of picking on cyclists, including commuters and delivery riders who are allegedly seen as easy targets by the police.

    In the social media post, the council states that city centre wardens,
    joined forces with South Wales Police to enforce the no-cycling rule along Queen Street. It said: "Between October-December, OpCastor has seen: 504 cyclists stopped, 98 stolen OvoBikes seized, 14 fixed penalty notices
    issued, [and] two Section 59s issued to electric scooter riders."

    Queen Street is one of the three major streets curtailed off to vehicles in Cardiff's city centre. However, it is the only one where cycling is officially banned. In fact, it has been illegal ever since the street was pedestrianised in 1974, yet it is far from an uncommon sight to see riders, partially because it is a busy shopping area with a number of cafes and retail stores, as well as because it runs along the horizontal length of almost the entirety of the city centre, starting from Newport Road on one
    end and opening up at Duke Street on the other.

    The cyclists stopped and fined in the past couple of months were part of Operation Castor, a SWP initiative aimed at "tackling bike crime through education and enforcement", with people signing up with the force as police community support officers (PSCO) and taking on the responsibility of
    dealing with cyclists illegally riding on Queen Street.

    The reaction to the council revealing the figures on social media has been sort of mixed, with some people agreeing that cycling shouldn't be allowed and even asking for further bans in the rest of the city centre. However, cyclists seemed to be in unison in criticising the council's decision to police cyclists strictly while ignoring other behaviours which could potentially endanger pedestrians and wheelers, such as pavement parking and speeding.

    Michael Young said: "Cycling should be allowed on Queen Street. It's wide enough for a designated section to be put aside. This is anti-cycling nonsense. Shame on you all.", while another Twitter account named Scowling Monkey wrote: "Please can we see instead a focus on the awful driving standards around the city. They put far more citizens at risk of severe injury or death than a few folk cycling down Queen Street. I am far more interested in seeing you crack down on irresponsible and dangerous
    drivers."

    Another account on Twitter called @closepassescdf, which documents near misses by motorists on cyclists in Cardiff, asked the council if Operation Castor still potentially breaking the law by targeting disabled cyclists
    with adapted bikes, as was allegedly confirmed by the council's official social media account last year.

    Council “escalates war on cycling menaces” with new town centre ban,
    saying: “We will not stop until we eradicate this behaviour”

    Meanwhile, Penny Dinh on Twitter said: "The council can’t afford to pay bin collectors liveable wages (link is external). The council has no resources
    to crack down on landlords guilty of illegal evictions. Yet they have all
    the resources in the world to pick on cyclists, many of whom are precarious gig-economy workers. Make it make sense!"

    On Facebook, Paul Rock argued that if Queen Street was pedestrianised
    today, it would have been designed to allow cycling as other streets have been. He added: "The police always has the power to deal with people who cycle dangerously. The status and design of Queen Street needs to be
    reviewed in the light of why it has become such a popular route for
    cyclists.

    road.cc has contacted Cardiff City Council for comment.

    Despite cycling being banned on Queen Street, it is not however, a breach
    of the infamous Public Space Protection Order (PSPO), which has been used
    by many councils in the last couple of years to charge hefty fines from cyclists.

    Just last month, North Lincolnshire Council said that it has "escalated"
    and “intensified” its "war on cycling menaces" by implementing a complete ban on riding a bike in pedestrianised zones, as part of a wider crackdown
    on anti-social behaviour.

    Following a public consultation earlier this year, the council announced
    the PSPO will be in place in Scunthorpe and Brigg, while also introducing stronger powers and increasing fines for what the local authority described as the "scourge" of "irresponsible behaviour".

    In March, the North Lincolnshire Council leader Rob Waltham came under fire from cyclists for his rhetoric. He said: “Residents are fed up and we are fed up with that small minority of people who think the rules do not apply
    to them.

    "We have taken a zero-tolerance approach to anti-social behaviour, and we have spent a great deal of time - and taxpayers' money - to crack down on these people already. Despite this, they just will not listen nor learn.

    In the past, PSPOs have also been used to target the elderly as well. In 2022, an 82-year-old cyclist was fined £100 for riding in the Grimsby town centre. However, he defied them by saying he would rather go to jail than a pay a fine.

    I've been riding my bike around here for 40 years and have never once been fined," he said. "When he gave it to me I told him, 'stick it up your
    arse'."

    <https://road.cc/content/news/council-slammed-fining-cyclists-city-centre-street-306165>


    Interesting defence.

    Reminds me of a certain ‘legal expert’ who is now doing serious time.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Brian on Thu Feb 29 16:24:35 2024
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:

    “They have all the resources in the world to pick on cyclists”: Council >> slammed for stopping and fining cyclists on pedestrianised city centre
    street

    South Wales Police has issued over a dozen Fixed Penalty Notices to
    cyclists riding on the “popular” city centre route in the last two months
    by ADWITIYA PAL FRI, JAN 12, 2024 15:57

    Cyclists have slammed Cardiff City Council's latest social media post about >> the crackdown on cyclists on the only pedestrianised street in the city
    centre, raising concerns about the rising trend of picking on cyclists,
    including commuters and delivery riders who are allegedly seen as easy
    targets by the police.

    In the social media post, the council states that city centre wardens,
    joined forces with South Wales Police to enforce the no-cycling rule along >> Queen Street. It said: "Between October-December, OpCastor has seen: 504
    cyclists stopped, 98 stolen OvoBikes seized, 14 fixed penalty notices
    issued, [and] two Section 59s issued to electric scooter riders."

    Queen Street is one of the three major streets curtailed off to vehicles in >> Cardiff's city centre. However, it is the only one where cycling is
    officially banned. In fact, it has been illegal ever since the street was
    pedestrianised in 1974, yet it is far from an uncommon sight to see riders, >> partially because it is a busy shopping area with a number of cafes and
    retail stores, as well as because it runs along the horizontal length of
    almost the entirety of the city centre, starting from Newport Road on one
    end and opening up at Duke Street on the other.

    The cyclists stopped and fined in the past couple of months were part of
    Operation Castor, a SWP initiative aimed at "tackling bike crime through
    education and enforcement", with people signing up with the force as police >> community support officers (PSCO) and taking on the responsibility of
    dealing with cyclists illegally riding on Queen Street.

    The reaction to the council revealing the figures on social media has been >> sort of mixed, with some people agreeing that cycling shouldn't be allowed >> and even asking for further bans in the rest of the city centre. However,
    cyclists seemed to be in unison in criticising the council's decision to
    police cyclists strictly while ignoring other behaviours which could
    potentially endanger pedestrians and wheelers, such as pavement parking and >> speeding.

    Michael Young said: "Cycling should be allowed on Queen Street. It's wide
    enough for a designated section to be put aside. This is anti-cycling
    nonsense. Shame on you all.", while another Twitter account named Scowling >> Monkey wrote: "Please can we see instead a focus on the awful driving
    standards around the city. They put far more citizens at risk of severe
    injury or death than a few folk cycling down Queen Street. I am far more
    interested in seeing you crack down on irresponsible and dangerous
    drivers."

    Another account on Twitter called @closepassescdf, which documents near
    misses by motorists on cyclists in Cardiff, asked the council if Operation >> Castor still potentially breaking the law by targeting disabled cyclists
    with adapted bikes, as was allegedly confirmed by the council's official
    social media account last year.

    Council “escalates war on cycling menaces” with new town centre ban, >>> saying: “We will not stop until we eradicate this behaviour”

    Meanwhile, Penny Dinh on Twitter said: "The council can’t afford to pay bin
    collectors liveable wages (link is external). The council has no resources >> to crack down on landlords guilty of illegal evictions. Yet they have all
    the resources in the world to pick on cyclists, many of whom are precarious >> gig-economy workers. Make it make sense!"

    On Facebook, Paul Rock argued that if Queen Street was pedestrianised
    today, it would have been designed to allow cycling as other streets have
    been. He added: "The police always has the power to deal with people who
    cycle dangerously. The status and design of Queen Street needs to be
    reviewed in the light of why it has become such a popular route for
    cyclists.

    road.cc has contacted Cardiff City Council for comment.

    Despite cycling being banned on Queen Street, it is not however, a breach
    of the infamous Public Space Protection Order (PSPO), which has been used
    by many councils in the last couple of years to charge hefty fines from
    cyclists.

    Just last month, North Lincolnshire Council said that it has "escalated"
    and “intensified” its "war on cycling menaces" by implementing a complete
    ban on riding a bike in pedestrianised zones, as part of a wider crackdown >> on anti-social behaviour.

    Following a public consultation earlier this year, the council announced
    the PSPO will be in place in Scunthorpe and Brigg, while also introducing
    stronger powers and increasing fines for what the local authority described >> as the "scourge" of "irresponsible behaviour".

    In March, the North Lincolnshire Council leader Rob Waltham came under fire >> from cyclists for his rhetoric. He said: “Residents are fed up and we are >> fed up with that small minority of people who think the rules do not apply >> to them.

    "We have taken a zero-tolerance approach to anti-social behaviour, and we
    have spent a great deal of time - and taxpayers' money - to crack down on
    these people already. Despite this, they just will not listen nor learn.

    In the past, PSPOs have also been used to target the elderly as well. In
    2022, an 82-year-old cyclist was fined £100 for riding in the Grimsby town >> centre. However, he defied them by saying he would rather go to jail than a >> pay a fine.

    I've been riding my bike around here for 40 years and have never once been >> fined," he said. "When he gave it to me I told him, 'stick it up your
    arse'."

    <https://road.cc/content/news/council-slammed-fining-cyclists-city-centre-street-306165>

    Interesting defence.

    Reminds me of a certain ‘legal expert’ who is now doing serious time.

    “We have taken a zero-tolerance approach to anti-social behaviour, and we have spent a great deal of time - and taxpayers' money - to crack down on
    these people already. Despite this, they just will not listen nor learn.”

    No surprises there…

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    Spike

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