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    From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Sat Feb 10 14:38:45 2024
    On 10/02/2024 02:13 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A cyclist with a “bizarre” bike extension has been spotted on a Perthshire road.
    The cyclist was seen on the A85 going towards Comrie from Crieff on Wednesday morning.
    A picture shared with The Courier shows the bike with an extension out the side and a light/reflector at the end.
    The driver who captured the cyclist was in disbelief at the sight.
    A85 motorist had ‘never seen anything like it’
    He told The Courier: “I thought I saw him in the distance, and suddenly the car in front of me slowed down.
    “When they overtook him I saw him properly and I thought: ‘What the hell is that?’
    “I had never seen anything like it in my life.
    “It could be dangerous, but I think he just wants to get the space that he’s legally entitled to.
    “But it certainly is a funny thing to see – he’s certainly going to get his space with that sticking out.
    “He’s maybe had a scare before so does something like that. You never know with people.
    “I got passed him pretty quickly. He wasn’t quite in the side though and gave himself a bit more space than he needed.”
    While it is unclear if the cyclist was breaking any law, the Highway Code does set rules for those on two wheels.
    Rule 66 states that: “Cyclists should avoid any actions that could reduce your control of your cycle.”
    It adds that cyclists “should not carry anything which will affect your balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain.”
    Cyclists are also told to “be considerate” of other road users and to keep a 0.5m gap between them and the kerb on busy roads.
    Meanwhile, drivers should leave at least a 1.5m gap when overtaking cyclists. Police Scotland has been approached for comment.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/perth-kinross/4888871/cyclist-bizarre-extension-perthshire-a85/

    SFW:

    <https://wpcluster.dctdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2024/02/Cyclist-on-road-to-Crieff-181oxen5a-e1707302686892.jpg>

    The only logical and correct way to approach this is to ask oneself
    whether it would be acceptable for such a device - with all the extra
    risk of danger of damage to property and injury or worse to other
    people, especially pedestrians - to be affixed to a car, van, bus or
    lorry. And then to answer that question realistically and honestly
    (which rules out predictable responses from chav-cyclists).

    And the answer is that it cannot possibly be acceptable or lawful for
    such a dangerous contraption to be used attached to any vehicle, even a
    horse and cart.

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to JNugent on Sat Feb 10 18:20:53 2024
    JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/02/2024 02:13 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A cyclist with a “bizarre” bike extension has been spotted on a Perthshire road.
    The cyclist was seen on the A85 going towards Comrie from Crieff on Wednesday morning.
    A picture shared with The Courier shows the bike with an extension out
    the side and a light/reflector at the end.
    The driver who captured the cyclist was in disbelief at the sight.
    A85 motorist had ‘never seen anything like it’
    He told The Courier: “I thought I saw him in the distance, and suddenly
    the car in front of me slowed down.
    “When they overtook him I saw him properly and I thought: ‘What the hell is that?’
    “I had never seen anything like it in my life.
    “It could be dangerous, but I think he just wants to get the space that
    he’s legally entitled to.
    “But it certainly is a funny thing to see – he’s certainly going to get
    his space with that sticking out.
    “He’s maybe had a scare before so does something like that. You never know with people.
    “I got passed him pretty quickly. He wasn’t quite in the side though and >> gave himself a bit more space than he needed.”
    While it is unclear if the cyclist was breaking any law, the Highway
    Code does set rules for those on two wheels.
    Rule 66 states that: “Cyclists should avoid any actions that could
    reduce your control of your cycle.”
    It adds that cyclists “should not carry anything which will affect your
    balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain.”
    Cyclists are also told to “be considerate” of other road users and to
    keep a 0.5m gap between them and the kerb on busy roads.
    Meanwhile, drivers should leave at least a 1.5m gap when overtaking cyclists.
    Police Scotland has been approached for comment.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/perth-kinross/4888871/cyclist-bizarre-extension-perthshire-a85/

    SFW:

    <https://wpcluster.dctdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2024/02/Cyclist-on-road-to-Crieff-181oxen5a-e1707302686892.jpg>

    The only logical and correct way to approach this is to ask oneself
    whether it would be acceptable for such a device - with all the extra
    risk of danger of damage to property and injury or worse to other
    people, especially pedestrians - to be affixed to a car, van, bus or
    lorry. And then to answer that question realistically and honestly
    (which rules out predictable responses from chav-cyclists).

    And the answer is that it cannot possibly be acceptable or lawful for
    such a dangerous contraption to be used attached to any vehicle, even a
    horse and cart.






    It would be ‘interesting’ to see what he does when trying to undertake or overtake line of cars when his ‘extension’ would protrude across the centre of the road into the other on coming lane.

    In such circumstances, he would be liable for any damage, injury, etc. and
    it could be argued his vehicle was in a dangerous condition.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Brian on Sat Feb 10 22:00:31 2024
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/02/2024 02:13 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A cyclist with a “bizarre” bike extension has been spotted on a Perthshire road.
    The cyclist was seen on the A85 going towards Comrie from Crieff on Wednesday morning.
    A picture shared with The Courier shows the bike with an extension out
    the side and a light/reflector at the end.
    The driver who captured the cyclist was in disbelief at the sight.
    A85 motorist had ‘never seen anything like it’
    He told The Courier: “I thought I saw him in the distance, and suddenly >>> the car in front of me slowed down.
    “When they overtook him I saw him properly and I thought: ‘What the hell is that?’
    “I had never seen anything like it in my life.
    “It could be dangerous, but I think he just wants to get the space that >>> he’s legally entitled to.
    “But it certainly is a funny thing to see – he’s certainly going to get
    his space with that sticking out.
    “He’s maybe had a scare before so does something like that. You never know with people.
    “I got passed him pretty quickly. He wasn’t quite in the side though and
    gave himself a bit more space than he needed.”
    While it is unclear if the cyclist was breaking any law, the Highway
    Code does set rules for those on two wheels.
    Rule 66 states that: “Cyclists should avoid any actions that could
    reduce your control of your cycle.”
    It adds that cyclists “should not carry anything which will affect your >>> balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain.”
    Cyclists are also told to “be considerate” of other road users and to >>> keep a 0.5m gap between them and the kerb on busy roads.
    Meanwhile, drivers should leave at least a 1.5m gap when overtaking cyclists.
    Police Scotland has been approached for comment.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/perth-kinross/4888871/cyclist-bizarre-extension-perthshire-a85/

    SFW:

    <https://wpcluster.dctdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2024/02/Cyclist-on-road-to-Crieff-181oxen5a-e1707302686892.jpg>

    The only logical and correct way to approach this is to ask oneself
    whether it would be acceptable for such a device - with all the extra
    risk of danger of damage to property and injury or worse to other
    people, especially pedestrians - to be affixed to a car, van, bus or
    lorry. And then to answer that question realistically and honestly
    (which rules out predictable responses from chav-cyclists).

    And the answer is that it cannot possibly be acceptable or lawful for
    such a dangerous contraption to be used attached to any vehicle, even a
    horse and cart.






    It would be ‘interesting’ to see what he does when trying to undertake or overtake line of cars when his ‘extension’ would protrude across the centre
    of the road into the other on coming lane.

    In such circumstances, he would be liable for any damage, injury, etc. and
    it could be argued his vehicle was in a dangerous condition.

    And don’t forget the general right of cyclists to swerve out into traffic, e.g. to avoid a pothole, and expect every other road user to get out of
    their way while doing so.

    One good thing about out that contraption…he won’t be cycling on the footway.

    --
    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Sun Feb 11 00:42:42 2024
    On 10/02/2024 10:00 pm, Spike wrote:
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/02/2024 02:13 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A cyclist with a “bizarre” bike extension has been spotted on a Perthshire road.
    The cyclist was seen on the A85 going towards Comrie from Crieff on Wednesday morning.
    A picture shared with The Courier shows the bike with an extension out >>>> the side and a light/reflector at the end.
    The driver who captured the cyclist was in disbelief at the sight.
    A85 motorist had ‘never seen anything like it’
    He told The Courier: “I thought I saw him in the distance, and suddenly >>>> the car in front of me slowed down.
    “When they overtook him I saw him properly and I thought: ‘What the hell is that?’
    “I had never seen anything like it in my life.
    “It could be dangerous, but I think he just wants to get the space that >>>> he’s legally entitled to.
    “But it certainly is a funny thing to see – he’s certainly going to get
    his space with that sticking out.
    “He’s maybe had a scare before so does something like that. You never know with people.
    “I got passed him pretty quickly. He wasn’t quite in the side though and
    gave himself a bit more space than he needed.”
    While it is unclear if the cyclist was breaking any law, the Highway
    Code does set rules for those on two wheels.
    Rule 66 states that: “Cyclists should avoid any actions that could
    reduce your control of your cycle.”
    It adds that cyclists “should not carry anything which will affect your >>>> balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain.”
    Cyclists are also told to “be considerate” of other road users and to >>>> keep a 0.5m gap between them and the kerb on busy roads.
    Meanwhile, drivers should leave at least a 1.5m gap when overtaking cyclists.
    Police Scotland has been approached for comment.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/perth-kinross/4888871/cyclist-bizarre-extension-perthshire-a85/

    SFW:

    <https://wpcluster.dctdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2024/02/Cyclist-on-road-to-Crieff-181oxen5a-e1707302686892.jpg>

    The only logical and correct way to approach this is to ask oneself
    whether it would be acceptable for such a device - with all the extra
    risk of danger of damage to property and injury or worse to other
    people, especially pedestrians - to be affixed to a car, van, bus or
    lorry. And then to answer that question realistically and honestly
    (which rules out predictable responses from chav-cyclists).

    And the answer is that it cannot possibly be acceptable or lawful for
    such a dangerous contraption to be used attached to any vehicle, even a
    horse and cart.






    It would be ‘interesting’ to see what he does when trying to undertake or
    overtake line of cars when his ‘extension’ would protrude across the centre
    of the road into the other on coming lane.

    In such circumstances, he would be liable for any damage, injury, etc. and >> it could be argued his vehicle was in a dangerous condition.

    And don’t forget the general right of cyclists to swerve out into traffic, e.g. to avoid a pothole, and expect every other road user to get out of
    their way while doing so.

    One good thing about out that contraption…he won’t be cycling on the footway.

    :-) !

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Spike on Sun Feb 11 07:11:53 2024
    Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/02/2024 02:13 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A cyclist with a “bizarre” bike extension has been spotted on a Perthshire road.
    The cyclist was seen on the A85 going towards Comrie from Crieff on Wednesday morning.
    A picture shared with The Courier shows the bike with an extension out >>>> the side and a light/reflector at the end.
    The driver who captured the cyclist was in disbelief at the sight.
    A85 motorist had ‘never seen anything like it’
    He told The Courier: “I thought I saw him in the distance, and suddenly >>>> the car in front of me slowed down.
    “When they overtook him I saw him properly and I thought: ‘What the hell is that?’
    “I had never seen anything like it in my life.
    “It could be dangerous, but I think he just wants to get the space that >>>> he’s legally entitled to.
    “But it certainly is a funny thing to see – he’s certainly going to get
    his space with that sticking out.
    “He’s maybe had a scare before so does something like that. You never know with people.
    “I got passed him pretty quickly. He wasn’t quite in the side though and
    gave himself a bit more space than he needed.”
    While it is unclear if the cyclist was breaking any law, the Highway
    Code does set rules for those on two wheels.
    Rule 66 states that: “Cyclists should avoid any actions that could
    reduce your control of your cycle.”
    It adds that cyclists “should not carry anything which will affect your >>>> balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain.”
    Cyclists are also told to “be considerate” of other road users and to >>>> keep a 0.5m gap between them and the kerb on busy roads.
    Meanwhile, drivers should leave at least a 1.5m gap when overtaking cyclists.
    Police Scotland has been approached for comment.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/perth-kinross/4888871/cyclist-bizarre-extension-perthshire-a85/

    SFW:

    <https://wpcluster.dctdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2024/02/Cyclist-on-road-to-Crieff-181oxen5a-e1707302686892.jpg>

    The only logical and correct way to approach this is to ask oneself
    whether it would be acceptable for such a device - with all the extra
    risk of danger of damage to property and injury or worse to other
    people, especially pedestrians - to be affixed to a car, van, bus or
    lorry. And then to answer that question realistically and honestly
    (which rules out predictable responses from chav-cyclists).

    And the answer is that it cannot possibly be acceptable or lawful for
    such a dangerous contraption to be used attached to any vehicle, even a
    horse and cart.






    It would be ‘interesting’ to see what he does when trying to undertake or
    overtake line of cars when his ‘extension’ would protrude across the centre
    of the road into the other on coming lane.

    In such circumstances, he would be liable for any damage, injury, etc. and >> it could be argued his vehicle was in a dangerous condition.

    And don’t forget the general right of cyclists to swerve out into traffic, e.g. to avoid a pothole, and expect every other road user to get out of
    their way while doing so.

    One good thing about out that contraption…he won’t be cycling on the footway.


    Are you sure?

    Remember the case of the cyclist who harassed a pedestrian and, when the cyclist fell under a car, the pedestrian was jailed.

    Dangerous cyclists riding on pavements do as they please.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Brian on Sun Feb 11 09:30:00 2024
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/02/2024 02:13 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A cyclist with a “bizarre” bike extension has been spotted on a Perthshire road.
    The cyclist was seen on the A85 going towards Comrie from Crieff on Wednesday morning.
    A picture shared with The Courier shows the bike with an extension out >>>>> the side and a light/reflector at the end.
    The driver who captured the cyclist was in disbelief at the sight.
    A85 motorist had ‘never seen anything like it’
    He told The Courier: “I thought I saw him in the distance, and suddenly >>>>> the car in front of me slowed down.
    “When they overtook him I saw him properly and I thought: ‘What the hell is that?’
    “I had never seen anything like it in my life.
    “It could be dangerous, but I think he just wants to get the space that >>>>> he’s legally entitled to.
    “But it certainly is a funny thing to see – he’s certainly going to get
    his space with that sticking out.
    “He’s maybe had a scare before so does something like that. You never know with people.
    “I got passed him pretty quickly. He wasn’t quite in the side though and
    gave himself a bit more space than he needed.”
    While it is unclear if the cyclist was breaking any law, the Highway >>>>> Code does set rules for those on two wheels.
    Rule 66 states that: “Cyclists should avoid any actions that could >>>>> reduce your control of your cycle.”
    It adds that cyclists “should not carry anything which will affect your >>>>> balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain.”
    Cyclists are also told to “be considerate” of other road users and to >>>>> keep a 0.5m gap between them and the kerb on busy roads.
    Meanwhile, drivers should leave at least a 1.5m gap when overtaking cyclists.
    Police Scotland has been approached for comment.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/perth-kinross/4888871/cyclist-bizarre-extension-perthshire-a85/

    SFW:

    <https://wpcluster.dctdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2024/02/Cyclist-on-road-to-Crieff-181oxen5a-e1707302686892.jpg>

    The only logical and correct way to approach this is to ask oneself
    whether it would be acceptable for such a device - with all the extra
    risk of danger of damage to property and injury or worse to other
    people, especially pedestrians - to be affixed to a car, van, bus or
    lorry. And then to answer that question realistically and honestly
    (which rules out predictable responses from chav-cyclists).

    And the answer is that it cannot possibly be acceptable or lawful for
    such a dangerous contraption to be used attached to any vehicle, even a >>>> horse and cart.






    It would be ‘interesting’ to see what he does when trying to undertake or
    overtake line of cars when his ‘extension’ would protrude across the centre
    of the road into the other on coming lane.

    In such circumstances, he would be liable for any damage, injury, etc. and >>> it could be argued his vehicle was in a dangerous condition.

    And don’t forget the general right of cyclists to swerve out into traffic, >> e.g. to avoid a pothole, and expect every other road user to get out of
    their way while doing so.

    One good thing about out that contraption…he won’t be cycling on the
    footway.

    Are you sure?

    Remember the case of the cyclist who harassed a pedestrian and, when the cyclist fell under a car, the pedestrian was jailed.

    Dangerous cyclists riding on pavements do as they please.

    Yes, the Auriol Grey affair was a disgraceful miscarriage of justice. Let’s hope her case doesn’t get forgotten.

    --
    Spike

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Feb 14 14:56:18 2024
    Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/02/2024 02:13 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A cyclist with a “bizarre” bike extension has been spotted on a Perthshire road.
    The cyclist was seen on the A85 going towards Comrie from Crieff on Wednesday morning.
    A picture shared with The Courier shows the bike with an extension out >>>>>> the side and a light/reflector at the end.
    The driver who captured the cyclist was in disbelief at the sight. >>>>>> A85 motorist had ‘never seen anything like it’
    He told The Courier: “I thought I saw him in the distance, and suddenly
    the car in front of me slowed down.
    “When they overtook him I saw him properly and I thought: ‘What the hell is that?’
    “I had never seen anything like it in my life.
    “It could be dangerous, but I think he just wants to get the space that
    he’s legally entitled to.
    “But it certainly is a funny thing to see – he’s certainly going to get
    his space with that sticking out.
    “He’s maybe had a scare before so does something like that. You >>>>>> never know with people.
    “I got passed him pretty quickly. He
    wasn’t quite in the side though and
    gave himself a bit more space than he needed.”
    While it is unclear if the cyclist was breaking any law, the Highway >>>>>> Code does set rules for those on two wheels.
    Rule 66 states that: “Cyclists should avoid any actions that could >>>>>> reduce your control of your cycle.”
    It adds that cyclists “should not carry anything which will affect your
    balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain.”
    Cyclists are also told to “be considerate” of other road users and to
    keep a 0.5m gap between them and the kerb on busy roads.
    Meanwhile, drivers should leave at least a 1.5m gap when overtaking cyclists.
    Police Scotland has been approached for comment.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/perth-kinross/4888871/cyclist-bizarre-extension-perthshire-a85/

    SFW:

    <https://wpcluster.dctdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2024/02/Cyclist-on-road-to-Crieff-181oxen5a-e1707302686892.jpg>

    The only logical and correct way to approach this is to ask oneself
    whether it would be acceptable for such a device - with all the extra >>>>> risk of danger of damage to property and injury or worse to other
    people, especially pedestrians - to be affixed to a car, van, bus or >>>>> lorry. And then to answer that question realistically and honestly
    (which rules out predictable responses from chav-cyclists).

    And the answer is that it cannot possibly be acceptable or lawful for >>>>> such a dangerous contraption to be used attached to any vehicle, even a >>>>> horse and cart.






    It would be ‘interesting’ to see what he does when trying to undertake or
    overtake line of cars when his ‘extension’ would protrude across the centre
    of the road into the other on coming lane.

    In such circumstances, he would be liable for any damage, injury, etc. and >>>> it could be argued his vehicle was in a dangerous condition.

    And don’t forget the general right of cyclists to swerve out into traffic,
    e.g. to avoid a pothole, and expect every other road user to get out of
    their way while doing so.

    One good thing about out that contraption…he won’t be cycling on the >>> footway.

    Are you sure?

    Remember the case of the cyclist who harassed a pedestrian and, when the
    cyclist fell under a car, the pedestrian was jailed.

    Dangerous cyclists riding on pavements do as they please.

    Yes, the Auriol Grey affair was a disgraceful miscarriage of justice. Let’s hope her case doesn’t get forgotten.


    Of course, if the idiot who undertook a lorry as it was turning left had
    used one, she may still be alive and the entirely innocent lorry driver not facing charges.

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