• Jail for driver who used false name to book taxi after smash

    From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 04:53:29 2023
    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be breath tested.

    Banned driver Robert McLeod, 41, is starting 17 weeks behind bars after a court heard he caused the crash seconds after leaving the city’s Ivy House pub

    McLeod, of Cossack Terrace, Pallion, was caught on CCTV exiting the boozer with a woman and getting behind the wheel of her BMW.

    Footage from a household Ring doorbell moments later showed the car hitting a parked red vintage Mercedes in Worcester Terrace, Ashbrooke.

    The force of the smash, at around 11pm on Sunday, April 16, caused over £4,000 of damage to the Mercedes and sent it careering into a second motor.

    McLeod then used a false name in phoning a taxi on his mobile, which along with DNA evidence linked him to the crash, prosecutor Ruth Foster said.

    She said McLeod, who has previous convictions for driving while banned and drink and drug driving, would have been breathalysed had he stayed at the scene.

    He claimed the crash had been caused by a pooch running into the road – and that he had not been boozing, magistrates in South Tyneside heard.

    Mrs Foster added: “The defendant was seen leaving the Ivy House with a female and getting into a black BMW.

    “The vehicle is seen being driven at speed and into a red Mercedes, which shunts another vehicle.

    “The defendant is seen getting picked up by a taxi. He gave a different name, but from the mobile he used to call officers in relation to this investigation.

    “The steering wheel and airbag were taken from the BMW for forensic analysis, and they came back with the DNA of the defendant.

    “It was quite clear from the Ring doorbell that the BMW collided with the Mercedes at considerable speed and shunted it down the road.

    “The Mercedes was a classic car and improvements had been done. The insurance only paid for a basic car, which left £1,850 outstanding.”

    McLeod pleaded guilty to driving while disqualified, failing to stop after an accident, driving without due care and attention and driving without insurance.

    He has 19 previous convictions, including drink driving in 2009 and drug driving in 2018.

    And McLeod, who works overseas, was given a 32-month ban in 2021 for driving while disqualified.

    Joanne Gatens, defending, said: “He has significant personal mitigation. He’s in employment and has a good job.

    “In terms of the accident, he would say that a dog ran out in front of the car.

    “He tells me he doesn’t drink and hasn’t for some time. He would not want the assumption to be that he had been drinking.”

    McLeod was sentenced to concurrent 17-week jail terms for failing to stop and driving while banned, with no separate penalty for the other charges.

    He was disqualified from driving for 20 months, with an additional eight weeks for time spent in prison.

    https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/jail-for-driver-who-used-false-name-to-book-taxi-after-smash-4393191

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 1 12:10:29 2023
    On 01/11/2023 11:53 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be breath tested.

    IOW: driving whilst only a chav-cyclist and failing to stop (actually,
    he did stop, but failed to hang around as a pedestrian).

    Banned driver Robert McLeod, 41, is starting 17 weeks behind bars after a court heard he caused the crash seconds after leaving the city’s Ivy House pub
    McLeod, of Cossack Terrace, Pallion, was caught on CCTV exiting the boozer with a woman and getting behind the wheel of her BMW.
    Footage from a household Ring doorbell moments later showed the car hitting a parked red vintage Mercedes in Worcester Terrace, Ashbrooke.
    The force of the smash, at around 11pm on Sunday, April 16, caused over £4,000 of damage to the Mercedes and sent it careering into a second motor.
    McLeod then used a false name in phoning a taxi on his mobile, which along with DNA evidence linked him to the crash, prosecutor Ruth Foster said.
    She said McLeod, who has previous convictions for driving while banned and drink and drug driving, would have been breathalysed had he stayed at the scene.
    He claimed the crash had been caused by a pooch running into the road – and that he had not been boozing, magistrates in South Tyneside heard.
    Mrs Foster added: “The defendant was seen leaving the Ivy House with a female and getting into a black BMW.
    “The vehicle is seen being driven at speed and into a red Mercedes, which shunts another vehicle.
    “The defendant is seen getting picked up by a taxi. He gave a different name, but from the mobile he used to call officers in relation to this investigation.
    “The steering wheel and airbag were taken from the BMW for forensic analysis, and they came back with the DNA of the defendant.
    “It was quite clear from the Ring doorbell that the BMW collided with the Mercedes at considerable speed and shunted it down the road.
    “The Mercedes was a classic car and improvements had been done. The insurance only paid for a basic car, which left £1,850 outstanding.”
    McLeod pleaded guilty to driving while disqualified [ie, while only a fully-unqualified chav-cyclist], failing to stop after an accident, driving without due care and attention and driving without insurance.
    He has 19 previous convictions, including drink driving in 2009 and drug driving in 2018.

    Typical chav-cyclist, would you say?

    It's certainly TCCB.

    And McLeod, who works overseas, was given a 32-month ban in 2021 for driving while disqualified.
    Joanne Gatens, defending, said: “He has significant personal mitigation. He’s in employment and has a good job.
    “In terms of the accident, he would say that a dog ran out in front of the car.
    “He tells me he doesn’t drink and hasn’t for some time. He would not want the assumption to be that he had been drinking.”
    McLeod was sentenced to concurrent 17-week jail terms for failing to stop and driving while banned, with no separate penalty for the other charges.
    He was disqualified from driving for 20 months, with an additional eight weeks for time spent in prison.

    https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/jail-for-driver-who-used-false-name-to-book-taxi-after-smash-4393191

    So no conviction for drink-driving.

    And why is that?

    For the time-honoured reason that there was no evidence for it.

    Still... "driving whilst being nothing more than a mere
    fully-unqualified chav-cyclist" will do nicely. And of course, no fully-unqualified chav-cyclist who causes an accident is going to stop
    and exchange details for very obvious reasons.

    But... there's another fully-unqualified chav-cyclist off the road for a
    few weeks.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Nov 1 12:14:36 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 11:53 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a
    three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be breath tested.

    IOW: driving whilst only a chav-cyclist and failing to stop (actually,
    he did stop, but failed to hang around as a pedestrian).

    Interesting…There was no OP showing here, only your reply to it. I wonder what filter took it out? The ‘poor English’ one, perhaps?

    --
    Spike

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 06:46:19 2023
    QUOTE: She said McLeod, who has previous convictions for driving while banned and drink and drug driving, would have been breathalysed had he stayed at the scene. ENDS

    Had the non existent dog been drinking? :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 1 17:17:47 2023
    On 01/11/2023 12:14 pm, Spike wrote:
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 11:53 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a
    three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be breath tested.

    IOW: driving whilst only a chav-cyclist and failing to stop (actually,
    he did stop, but failed to hang around as a pedestrian).

    Interesting…There was no OP showing here, only your reply to it. I wonder what filter took it out? The ‘poor English’ one, perhaps?

    Posted by Mr Misogyny at 11:53 today (and still on the Berlin news
    server, apparently):

    QUOTE:
    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a
    three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be
    breath tested.

    Banned driver Robert McLeod, 41, is starting 17 weeks behind bars after
    a court heard he caused the crash seconds after leaving the city’s Ivy
    House pub

    McLeod, of Cossack Terrace, Pallion, was caught on CCTV exiting the
    boozer with a woman and getting behind the wheel of her BMW.

    Footage from a household Ring doorbell moments later showed the car
    hitting a parked red vintage Mercedes in Worcester Terrace, Ashbrooke.

    The force of the smash, at around 11pm on Sunday, April 16, caused over
    £4,000 of damage to the Mercedes and sent it careering into a second motor.

    McLeod then used a false name in phoning a taxi on his mobile, which
    along with DNA evidence linked him to the crash, prosecutor Ruth Foster
    said.

    She said McLeod, who has previous convictions for driving while banned
    and drink and drug driving, would have been breathalysed had he stayed
    at the scene.

    He claimed the crash had been caused by a pooch running into the road –
    and that he had not been boozing, magistrates in South Tyneside heard.

    Mrs Foster added: “The defendant was seen leaving the Ivy House with a
    female and getting into a black BMW.

    “The vehicle is seen being driven at speed and into a red Mercedes,
    which shunts another vehicle.

    “The defendant is seen getting picked up by a taxi. He gave a different
    name, but from the mobile he used to call officers in relation to this investigation.

    “The steering wheel and airbag were taken from the BMW for forensic
    analysis, and they came back with the DNA of the defendant.

    “It was quite clear from the Ring doorbell that the BMW collided with
    the Mercedes at considerable speed and shunted it down the road.

    “The Mercedes was a classic car and improvements had been done. The
    insurance only paid for a basic car, which left £1,850 outstanding.”

    McLeod pleaded guilty to driving while disqualified, failing to stop
    after an accident, driving without due care and attention and driving
    without insurance.

    He has 19 previous convictions, including drink driving in 2009 and drug driving in 2018.

    And McLeod, who works overseas, was given a 32-month ban in 2021 for
    driving while disqualified.

    Joanne Gatens, defending, said: “He has significant personal mitigation. He’s in employment and has a good job.

    “In terms of the accident, he would say that a dog ran out in front of
    the car.

    “He tells me he doesn’t drink and hasn’t for some time. He would not
    want the assumption to be that he had been drinking.”

    McLeod was sentenced to concurrent 17-week jail terms for failing to
    stop and driving while banned, with no separate penalty for the other
    charges.

    He was disqualified from driving for 20 months, with an additional eight
    weeks for time spent in prison.

    https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/jail-for-driver-who-used-false-name-to-book-taxi-after-smash-4393191
    ENDQUOTE

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 1 17:21:06 2023
    On 01/11/2023 12:14 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 11:53 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a
    three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be breath tested.

    IOW: driving whilst only a chav-cyclist and failing to stop (actually,
    he did stop, but failed to hang around as a pedestrian).

    Interesting…There was no OP showing here, only your reply to it. I wonder what filter took it out? The ‘poor English’ one, perhaps?

    Mind you, I had "article can't be found" responses to three of Mr
    Misogyny's posts today, in the threads headed:

    "Predatory taxi-driver",

    "Warminster delivery driver" and

    "M6 driver caught drinking tea".

    I surmise that he has learned how to cancel posts, probably using an
    add-on for Google Groups that he wrote himself.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Misogyny on Wed Nov 1 17:21:57 2023
    On 01/11/2023 01:46 pm, Simon Misogyny wrote:

    QUOTE: She said McLeod, who has previous convictions for driving while banned and drink and drug driving, would have been breathalysed had he stayed at the scene. ENDS

    Had the non existent dog been drinking? :-)

    Not only that, but it was riding the fairy-cycle.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 11:10:58 2023
    QUOTE:
    “The vehicle is seen being driven at speed and into a red Mercedes, which shunts another vehicle.
    ENDS

    A white car slamming into a red car?
    A game of chav snooker?
    A pint after each cannon. :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Misogyny on Wed Nov 1 18:20:20 2023
    On 01/11/2023 06:10 pm, Simon Misogyny wrote:

    QUOTE:
    “The vehicle is seen being driven at speed and into a red Mercedes, which shunts another vehicle.
    ENDS

    A white car slamming into a red car?
    A game of chav snooker?
    A pint after each cannon. :-)

    One defers to your knowledge of and involvement in such things, M'Lud.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 1 12:03:27 2023
    On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 6:11:00 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE:
    “The vehicle is seen being driven at speed and into a red Mercedes, which shunts another vehicle.
    ENDS

    A white car slamming into a red car?
    A game of chav snooker?
    A pint after each cannon. :-)

    QUOTE: Mrs Foster added: “The defendant was seen leaving the Ivy House with a female and getting into a black BMW. ENDS

    Black? That was seven points, your honour!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Nov 1 19:14:37 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 12:14 pm, Spike wrote:
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 11:53 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a
    three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be breath tested.

    IOW: driving whilst only a chav-cyclist and failing to stop (actually,
    he did stop, but failed to hang around as a pedestrian).

    Interesting…There was no OP showing here, only your reply to it. I wonder >> what filter took it out? The ‘poor English’ one, perhaps?

    Posted by Mr Misogyny at 11:53 today (and still on the Berlin news
    server, apparently):

    QUOTE:
    […]
    ENDQUOTE

    Thanks. I use NIN here, so slightly puzzled as to why it didn’t show up.
    Just one of those things…



    --
    Spike

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 12:27:11 2023
    QUOTE: “The Mercedes was a classic car and improvements had been done. The insurance only paid for a basic car, which left £1,850 outstanding.” ENDS

    I think these "improvements " have been somewhat negated by stoving it into a couple of cars and getting shunted down the road. :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Nov 1 19:24:12 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 12:14 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 11:53 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a
    three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be breath tested.

    IOW: driving whilst only a chav-cyclist and failing to stop (actually,
    he did stop, but failed to hang around as a pedestrian).

    Interesting…There was no OP showing here, only your reply to it. I wonder >> what filter took it out? The ‘poor English’ one, perhaps?

    Mind you, I had "article can't be found" responses to three of Mr
    Misogyny's posts today, in the threads headed:

    "Predatory taxi-driver",

    "Warminster delivery driver" and

    "M6 driver caught drinking tea".

    I surmise that he has learned how to cancel posts, probably using an
    add-on for Google Groups that he wrote himself.

    Those posts are available here, I could quote them for you…but there are 11 responses by him in the ‘taxi driver’ thread alone…:-(

    --
    Spike

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu Nov 2 00:53:05 2023
    On 01/11/2023 07:24 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 12:14 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 11:53 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    A serial Sunderland roads offender has been jailed for causing a
    three-car smash he blamed on a dog - then fleeing before he could be breath tested.

    IOW: driving whilst only a chav-cyclist and failing to stop (actually, >>>> he did stop, but failed to hang around as a pedestrian).

    Interesting…There was no OP showing here, only your reply to it. I wonder >>> what filter took it out? The ‘poor English’ one, perhaps?

    Mind you, I had "article can't be found" responses to three of Mr
    Misogyny's posts today, in the threads headed:

    "Predatory taxi-driver",

    "Warminster delivery driver" and

    "M6 driver caught drinking tea".

    I surmise that he has learned how to cancel posts, probably using an
    add-on for Google Groups that he wrote himself.

    Those posts are available here, I could quote them for you…but there are 11 responses by him in the ‘taxi driver’ thread alone…:-(

    Oh, please...

    Is the Pope Catholic?

    [But I have seen some responses, just not that one.]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 2 00:25:57 2023
    QUOTE: McLeod, who has previous convictions for driving while banned and drink and drug driving. ENDS

    QUOTE: He claimed the crash had been caused by a pooch running into the road – and that he had not been boozing, magistrates in South Tyneside heard. ENDS

    Never touched a single drop - no Siree.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)