• USA Rough Cost Comparison: Riding an E-Bike Versus Driving a Car

    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 08:47:36 2023
    As the popularity of e-bikes continues to surge, more tangible benefits are beginning to materialize. An e-bike rider recently crunched the numbers and was blown away by the impact owning an e-bike had on her wallet

    Bryn Grunwald, an e-bike commuter and Colorado resident, compared the cost of reaching for her bike for more trips than her car, according to Electrek. Since 2018, Grunwald has ridden over 11,500 miles on her 2018 Juiced CrossCurrent commuter e-bike.

    Grunwald’s CrossCurrent 624 kWh e-bike battery averages 35 miles per charge. Grunwald’s travel mileage translates to 205 kWh of electricity. With electricity in Boulder, Colorado costing $0.15 per kWh, Grunwald’s total fuel cost over the five years
    cost $30.75.

    For comparison’s sake, Grunwald calculated what driving the same distance would cost if she drove her 2010 Toyota Camry. With her car averaging 26 miles per gallon and a gallon of gas averaging $3.50 per gallon over the same five years, Grunwald’s
    fuel cost to drive the same distance is approximately $1,500.

    Electricity for the CrossCurrent would average $6 annually versus $300 to fill up Grunwald’s Camry.

    Since both vehicles also require maintenance, Grunwald crunched those numbers as well.

    The e-bike required a new battery that cost $600 plus maintenance and accessories added another $500. Grunwald estimates riding her e-bike cost around $1,130.75 over the five years.

    The e-bike’s total cost was relatively minimal compared to the car. Car maintenance at a conservative $0.10 per mile totals $1,150. This bumps the cost of driving to $2,650.

    Riding an e-bike saved Grunwald over $1,500. These savings do not consider other costs associated with owning a car, such as the total price of a car versus an e-bike or insurance, registration, and inspection.

    The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to the cost of a car. Many states and municipalities offer or plan to offer rebates on new e-bikes. Federal legislative proposals have been introduced, but not passed, that would provide
    federal subsidies for e-bikes. As more e-bike manufacturers enter the market, buying a new e-bike is becoming increasingly more affordable.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Aug 11 16:58:37 2023
    On 11/08/2023 04:47 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    As the popularity of e-bikes continues to surge, more tangible benefits are beginning to materialize. An e-bike rider recently crunched the numbers and was blown away by the impact owning an e-bike had on her wallet
    Bryn Grunwald, an e-bike commuter and Colorado resident, compared the cost of reaching for her bike for more trips than her car, according to Electrek. Since 2018, Grunwald has ridden over 11,500 miles on her 2018 Juiced CrossCurrent commuter e-bike.

    So what?

    Most American drivers have covered well more than that since 31st
    December 2022.

    Grunwald’s CrossCurrent 624 kWh e-bike battery averages 35 miles per charge. Grunwald’s travel mileage translates to 205 kWh of electricity. With electricity in Boulder, Colorado costing $0.15 per kWh, Grunwald’s total fuel cost over the five
    years cost $30.75.
    For comparison’s sake, Grunwald calculated what driving the same distance would cost if she drove her 2010 Toyota Camry. With her car averaging 26 miles per gallon and a gallon of gas averaging $3.50 per gallon over the same five years, Grunwald’s
    fuel cost to drive the same distance is approximately $1,500.
    Electricity for the CrossCurrent would average $6 annually versus $300 to fill up Grunwald’s Camry.
    Since both vehicles also require maintenance, Grunwald crunched those numbers as well.
    The e-bike required a new battery that cost $600 plus maintenance and accessories added another $500. Grunwald estimates riding her e-bike cost around $1,130.75 over the five years.
    The e-bike’s total cost was relatively minimal compared to the car. Car maintenance at a conservative $0.10 per mile totals $1,150. This bumps the cost of driving to $2,650.
    Riding an e-bike saved Grunwald over $1,500. These savings do not consider other costs associated with owning a car, such as the total price of a car versus an e-bike or insurance, registration, and inspection.
    The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to the cost of a car. Many states and municipalities offer or plan to offer rebates on new e-bikes. Federal legislative proposals have been introduced, but not passed, that would provide
    federal subsidies for e-bikes. As more e-bike manufacturers enter the market, buying a new e-bike is becoming increasingly more affordable.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Aug 11 16:24:28 2023
    Someone on cannabis?

    “Grunwald’s CrossCurrent 624 kWh e-bike battery averages 35 miles per charge”.

    That’s the electric-motor bicycle market finished, then, with only 35 miles from a 624kWh battery…the normal mileage for an electric car is about 3.5 miles per kWh.

    Perhaps Ms Grunwald should get her money back from (Very?)CrossCurrent…

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    As the popularity of e-bikes continues to surge, more tangible benefits
    are beginning to materialize. An e-bike rider recently crunched the
    numbers and was blown away by the impact owning an e-bike had on her wallet

    Bryn Grunwald, an e-bike commuter and Colorado resident, compared the
    cost of reaching for her bike for more trips than her car, according to Electrek. Since 2018, Grunwald has ridden over 11,500 miles on her 2018 Juiced CrossCurrent commuter e-bike.

    Grunwald’s CrossCurrent 624 kWh e-bike battery averages 35 miles per charge. Grunwald’s travel mileage translates to 205 kWh of electricity. With electricity in Boulder, Colorado costing $0.15 per kWh, Grunwald’s total fuel cost over the five years cost $30.75.

    For comparison’s sake, Grunwald calculated what driving the same distance would cost if she drove her 2010 Toyota Camry. With her car averaging 26 miles per gallon and a gallon of gas averaging $3.50 per gallon over the
    same five years, Grunwald’s fuel cost to drive the same distance is approximately $1,500.

    Electricity for the CrossCurrent would average $6 annually versus $300 to fill up Grunwald’s Camry.

    Since both vehicles also require maintenance, Grunwald crunched those numbers as well.

    The e-bike required a new battery that cost $600 plus maintenance and accessories added another $500. Grunwald estimates riding her e-bike cost around $1,130.75 over the five years.

    The e-bike’s total cost was relatively minimal compared to the car. Car maintenance at a conservative $0.10 per mile totals $1,150. This bumps
    the cost of driving to $2,650.

    Riding an e-bike saved Grunwald over $1,500. These savings do not
    consider other costs associated with owning a car, such as the total
    price of a car versus an e-bike or insurance, registration, and inspection.

    The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to the
    cost of a car. Many states and municipalities offer or plan to offer
    rebates on new e-bikes. Federal legislative proposals have been
    introduced, but not passed, that would provide federal subsidies for
    e-bikes. As more e-bike manufacturers enter the market, buying a new
    e-bike is becoming increasingly more affordable.




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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 09:32:09 2023
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to the cost of a car. ENDS

    We know - ask anyone in London!

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Aug 11 10:43:09 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:32:11 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to the cost of a car. ENDS

    We know - ask anyone in London!

    Why do London house garages cost more than a house does outside London?
    NOWHERE TO PARK OTHERWISE.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Aug 11 17:31:14 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to
    the cost of a car. ENDS

    We know - ask anyone in London!

    At 35 miles from a 624kWh battery, how can anyone afford it? A car would
    be cheap by comparison.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Aug 11 20:55:04 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:32:11 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to
    the cost of a car. ENDS

    Except when the battery explodes and burns down the building.

    QUOTE E-bike ignites every two days, says fire brigade

    28 June 2023

    London Fire Brigade (LFB) has been called to one e-scooter or e-bike fire
    every two days this year, an LFB spokesman said.

    A lithium-ion battery fire can rip through a double bedroom in 10 to 15 seconds, Dominic Ellis, deputy commissioner at LFB, told City Hall on Wednesday.

    The batteries, which power electric scooters and bicycles, can create
    "quick and ferocious" house fires, he explained.

    A battery fire may start due to impact damage or short circuiting, the
    Fire, Resilience and Emergency Planning Committee heard.

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c88x2y3kr21o>

    ENDQUOTE

    We know - ask anyone in London!

    Why do London house garages cost more than a house does outside London?

    NOWHERE TO PARK OTHERWISE.

    It’s Economics 101: The Law of Supply and Demand

    🙄

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 14:13:17 2023
    QUOTE: Bryn Grunwald, an e-bike commuter and Colorado resident, compared the cost of reaching for her bike for more trips than her car, according to Electrek. Since 2018, Grunwald has ridden over 11,500 miles on her 2018 Juiced CrossCurrent commuter e-
    bike. ENDS

    Amazing - my record was 7500 in a year on my Scott CR1.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 01:45:39 2023
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to the cost of a car. ENDS

    And try fitting a dozen cars into a bike hangar.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 08:26:30 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: Bryn Grunwald, an e-bike commuter and Colorado resident, compared
    the cost of reaching for her bike for more trips than her car, according
    to Electrek. Since 2018, Grunwald has ridden over 11,500 miles on her
    2018 Juiced CrossCurrent commuter e-bike. ENDS

    Amazing - my record was 7500 in a year on my Scott CR1.

    Ms Grunwald’s electric-motor bicycle has a 624kWh battery, though, so can travel farther than youw.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 03:54:26 2023
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:41 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to the cost of a car. ENDS

    And try fitting a dozen cars into a bike hangar.

    Or even ONE.
    See: https://southwarknews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/blur-1-e1678820650684.jpeg

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 10:23:01 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to
    the cost of a car. ENDS

    And try fitting a dozen cars into a bike hangar.

    I know a chap who keeps his 47 motorcycles in a bike hangar.

    An electric-motor bicycle with a 624kWh battery is going to take up a
    couple of bicycle hangars all on its own.

    Let’s see if you can resist the Must Have Last Word (MHLW) syndrome on this one…

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 11:17:45 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:41 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to
    the cost of a car. ENDS

    And try fitting a dozen cars into a bike hangar.

    Or even ONE.
    See: https://southwarknews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/blur-1-e1678820650684.jpeg

    How much better it would have been if the car had been an EV with a 624kWh battery… It would have flattened (pardon the pun) the bicycle bin.

    Over to Mason for a Must Have Last Word (MHLW) posting…

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 05:03:32 2023
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 11:54:28 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:41 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison to the cost of a car. ENDS

    And try fitting a dozen cars into a bike hangar.
    Or even ONE.
    See: https://southwarknews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/blur-1-e1678820650684.jpeg

    Hangar's fault for not wearing hi-vis paint.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 13:07:45 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 11:54:28 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:41 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: The cost of owning and operating an e-bike pales in comparison
    to the cost of a car. ENDS

    And try fitting a dozen cars into a bike hangar.
    Or even ONE.
    See: https://southwarknews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/blur-1-e1678820650684.jpeg

    Hangar's fault for not wearing hi-vis paint.

    If that bike bin was a skip, guess how many laws it would break. Quite appropriate for the bicycle world.

    Over to Mason for a Must Have Last Word (MHLW) posting…

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 07:59:05 2023
    A controversial bike hangar, which incited a furious backlash from outraged motorists in November when it was installed in a car parking space, has been removed by Brighton and Hove City Council after it was crushed and damaged over the weekend by a
    suspected “large vehicle”.

    The cycle hangar in Norfolk Square, one of 60 installed in the city since July 2022, appears to have been damaged while residents’ bikes were stored inside it (a photo of the damage, which seems to show a crack in the unit’s roof, causing the front
    of the hangar to pop out, can be found on the Argus’ website (link is external)).

    However, the council has said that no bikes were damaged or stolen following the “unfortunate incident”, believed to have caused by a motorist, and that a replacement hangar will be delivered “soon”.

    The new cycle hangars, which offer secure storage for six bicycles, have proven a somewhat surprising and enduring source of contention in Brighton and Hove in recent months.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 15:56:11 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    A controversial bike hangar, which incited a furious backlash from
    outraged motorists in November when it was installed in a car parking
    space, has been removed by Brighton and Hove City Council after it was crushed and damaged over the weekend by a suspected “large vehicle”.

    The cycle hangar in Norfolk Square, one of 60 installed in the city since July 2022, appears to have been damaged while residents’ bikes were
    stored inside it (a photo of the damage, which seems to show a crack in
    the unit’s roof, causing the front of the hangar to pop out, can be found on the Argus’ website (link is external)).

    However, the council has said that no bikes were damaged or stolen
    following the “unfortunate incident”, believed to have caused by a motorist, and that a replacement hangar will be delivered “soon”.

    The new cycle hangars, which offer secure storage for six bicycles, have proven a somewhat surprising and enduring source of contention in
    Brighton and Hove in recent months.

    Since you raised the topic, the obvious rejoinder to that is ‘no sh1t, Sherlock’.

    Over to Mason for a Must Have Last Word (MHLW) posting…

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 09:37:57 2023
    An eleven-month-old baby was hospitalised last week after a driver collided with a roadside cycle hangar – and a local residents’ group has blamed the crash on the destroyed storage unit.

    The collision, which we featured on last week’s live blog, saw a motorist drive straight into the back of the green bike container located on Grove Lane in the Denmark Hill area of London, in what the Southwark News reports (link is external) was the
    second time a motorist has collided with the unit in just over three months.

    Following the crash, which took place at around 2.30pm on 6 March, a woman and an eleven-month-old baby were taken to hospital. No arrests were made and the baby is believed to be fine, though neighbours have told the local newspaper that the child’s
    mother is “beyond distraught”.

    A similar collision, which saw a driver knock the hangar sideways onto the pavement, occurred on the evening of 2 December 2022. No one was hurt.

    The hangar has been removed since last week’s collision, with one local cyclist noting on Twitter that, yesterday evening at least, the space it formerly occupied was being taken up by a parked lorry.

    While the two collisions may raise concerns about the standard of driving in the area (considering the unit was placed in a car parking space), a local residents’ group has argued this week that the hangar was “dangerously” positioned and have
    criticised the council for not acting sooner to prevent motorists from colliding with it.

    According to the Southwark News (link is external), the local council was warned about the hangar’s placement by the Grove Lane Area Residents’ Association (GLARA) soon after it was installed in October 2021.

    In that meeting, the group expressed concerns about the sight lines along Grove Lane for pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers, with Southwark Council’s cabinet member for leisure, parks, streets, and clean air, Catherine Rose, promising to review aspects
    of the road layout, including the hangar’s placement.

    However, until last week’s collision, the unit had been kept in its initial position, with the original container replaced after it was destroyed in December.

    The complaints about the hangar have also coincided with concerns from some residents that Grove Lane has become “more dangerous” in recent years thanks to the introduction of low traffic neighbourhoods and restrictions in nearby areas.

    Anti-LTN activists say these schemes have displaced more traffic onto main roads such as Grove Lane – though analysis carried out by Southwark Council has shown that traffic on the road has fallen by 12.7 percent compared to pre-Covid levels.

    Following last week’s crash, a spokesperson for the Grove Lane Area Residents’ Association pointed to the increased traffic on the road in a statement which claimed that incidents involving the bike hangar were “foreseeable”.

    “We as residents are ready and willing to work with the council to make improvements to Grove Lane and we want to see the council honour its manifesto commitments to reduce traffic on main roads – because this was foreseeable given it was the second
    accident on Grove Lane involving the bike hangar in the last three months,” the spokesperson said.

    The placement of cycle hangars – a growing presence in British cities thanks to the demand for safe and secure bike parking – has become something of a constant talking point in recent months.

    In Brighton and Hove, where the council is planning to introduce the units across the city, the hangars have proven a somewhat surprising and enduring source of contention in the south coast city.

    With 150 hangars expected to be rolled out across Brighton and Hove in the next few months, and a waiting list stretching into the hundreds, they have proven hugely popular with many residents looking for somewhere to securely store their bikes. However,
    the units have also attracted the ire of some locals who claim that they are an eyesore and take up too much space, despite the hangars being able to fit in a space usually reserved for one car.

    In November, a new cycle hangar in Norfolk Square, one of 60 already installed in the city since July 2022, was met with outrage after residents pointed out that it was hanging over two permit car parking spaces, prompting the council to investigate the
    hangar’s positioning.

    Later that month, a Hove woman successfully persuaded the council not to put one of the new hangars outside her home because it was “unattractive” – leading one councillor to observe that people opposed to them do not seem to have a problem with “
    Range Rovers that are half parked on the pavement”.

    And in January, things became even more heated when the council was accused of misleading the public after it claimed that a group of “unhappy” residents “surrounded” contractors tasked with installing one of the new hangars.

    According to the council, staff from parking enforcement contractors NSL were in the process of implementing a parking suspension, in preparation for the installation of a second bike hangar on Cissbury Road, Hove, when they were “surrounded by a lot
    of unhappy residents”.

    However, a Cissbury Road resident criticised the council’s account, branding it “misleading”, and claimed that he “had barely gotten a word out before I was threatened with the police”.

    But, even in Brighton and Hove it seems, the hangars have yet to be blamed for the inattentiveness and carelessness of motorists driving into them (as far as we can tell).

    As one cyclist noted on Twitter (link is external) this week, “is there anything that can’t be blamed on cycling infrastructure and cyclists?”

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 10:57:35 2023
    Twenty new bike hangars are being installed on streets across the Bath area as part of a two-year trial to provide secure on-street cycle parking. The cycle hangars will provide lockable and secure storage for 120 bikes for residents who don’t have
    access to private cycle parking, such as a shed or garage.

    They will be installed later in August, in a colour in keeping with the location, and maintained and operated by Falco on behalf of Bath & North East Somerset Council.

    The hangars are part of a £193,000 two-year trial, which is funded by the government’s Transforming Cities Fund awarded by the West of England Combined Authority (WECA) and Bath Clean Air Zone revenue reserve.

    Each hangar can store six bikes, with each space costing £42 a year to rent, during the trial period.

    Councillor Sarah Warren, deputy leader and cabinet member for Climate Emergency and Sustainable Travel, said: “Our Journey to Net Zero policy aims to encourage a shift towards active travel methods such as cycling and discussions with residents who
    took part in the Citizens’ Panel on Active Travel revealed that while bike lanes were needed, it was also important having safe and secure storage for cycles.

    “If we can make it easier for residents to store a bike by providing secure cycle parking near their homes, we hope that more people will be encouraged to use a bike for short journeys around Bath.

    “This will help to reduce traffic congestion and air pollution and improve public health.”

    “I would like to thank the communities who took part in our consultation and came forward with locations.

    “People will have another chance to request hangars in their area later in the year when the West of England Combined Authority will be consulting on sites for additional funded hangars.”

    Hangars will be installed on The Street in Radstock, Carpenters Lane in Keynsham and at the following locations in Bath:

    Grove Street
    Railway Place
    Camden Road
    Portland Place
    Cleveland Place
    Henry Street
    Walcot Street
    Vane Street
    Lansdown Place West
    Park Place
    Upper Church Street
    South Parade
    Henrietta Mews
    Catharine Place
    Archway Street
    Pulteney Gardens
    Sydney Mews
    Grosvenor Place

    The locations were prioritised in areas where there was shown to be the greatest demand through a recent consultation.

    Factors such as relative level of deprivation, whether a cycle is a mobility aid for disabled people or for carrying children, the likelihood a cycle could be stolen and feasibility were also considered, according to the local authority.

    The hangers can be reconfigured by removing one of the stands to allow additional storage space for non-standard bikes used by people with a disability.

    Non-standard bike spaces have not been requested by residents so far, however users are being encouraged to request this in future phases of the scheme.

    The cycle hangars are already being trialled in Great Stanhope Street, New King Street and Sydney Buildings.

    Residents can find out more about the new hangars or rent a space for their bike at www.rentals.falco.co.uk.

    The West of England Combined Authority has been granted funding from the government’s Active Travel Fund for cycle hangars across the area.

    A survey on proposed sites will be launched later this summer and could include up to 20 more cycle hangars across the district.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 17:55:23 2023
    The obvious solution is to treat bicycle bins as if they were -
    appropriately enough -rubbish skips, with lights, hi viz, reflectors, etc
    etc.

    Oh…wait a minute…in what sector of the road-user community has that been a dismal failure…

    Over to Mason for a Must Have Last Word (MHLW) posting…

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    An eleven-month-old baby was hospitalised last week after a driver
    collided with a roadside cycle hangar – and a local residents’ group has blamed the crash on the destroyed storage unit.

    The collision, which we featured on last week’s live blog, saw a motorist drive straight into the back of the green bike container located on Grove Lane in the Denmark Hill area of London, in what the Southwark News
    reports (link is external) was the second time a motorist has collided
    with the unit in just over three months.

    Following the crash, which took place at around 2.30pm on 6 March, a
    woman and an eleven-month-old baby were taken to hospital. No arrests
    were made and the baby is believed to be fine, though neighbours have
    told the local newspaper that the child’s mother is “beyond distraught”.

    A similar collision, which saw a driver knock the hangar sideways onto
    the pavement, occurred on the evening of 2 December 2022. No one was hurt.

    The hangar has been removed since last week’s collision, with one local cyclist noting on Twitter that, yesterday evening at least, the space it formerly occupied was being taken up by a parked lorry.

    While the two collisions may raise concerns about the standard of driving
    in the area (considering the unit was placed in a car parking space), a
    local residents’ group has argued this week that the hangar was “dangerously” positioned and have criticised the council for not acting sooner to prevent motorists from colliding with it.

    According to the Southwark News (link is external), the local council was warned about the hangar’s placement by the Grove Lane Area Residents’ Association (GLARA) soon after it was installed in October 2021.

    In that meeting, the group expressed concerns about the sight lines along Grove Lane for pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers, with Southwark
    Council’s cabinet member for leisure, parks, streets, and clean air, Catherine Rose, promising to review aspects of the road layout, including
    the hangar’s placement.

    However, until last week’s collision, the unit had been kept in its
    initial position, with the original container replaced after it was destroyed in December.

    The complaints about the hangar have also coincided with concerns from
    some residents that Grove Lane has become “more dangerous” in recent years thanks to the introduction of low traffic neighbourhoods and restrictions in nearby areas.

    Anti-LTN activists say these schemes have displaced more traffic onto
    main roads such as Grove Lane – though analysis carried out by Southwark Council has shown that traffic on the road has fallen by 12.7 percent compared to pre-Covid levels.

    Following last week’s crash, a spokesperson for the Grove Lane Area Residents’ Association pointed to the increased traffic on the road in a statement which claimed that incidents involving the bike hangar were “foreseeable”.

    “We as residents are ready and willing to work with the council to make improvements to Grove Lane and we want to see the council honour its manifesto commitments to reduce traffic on main roads – because this was foreseeable given it was the second accident on Grove Lane involving the
    bike hangar in the last three months,” the spokesperson said.

    The placement of cycle hangars – a growing presence in British cities thanks to the demand for safe and secure bike parking – has become something of a constant talking point in recent months.

    In Brighton and Hove, where the council is planning to introduce the
    units across the city, the hangars have proven a somewhat surprising and enduring source of contention in the south coast city.

    With 150 hangars expected to be rolled out across Brighton and Hove in
    the next few months, and a waiting list stretching into the hundreds,
    they have proven hugely popular with many residents looking for somewhere
    to securely store their bikes. However, the units have also attracted the
    ire of some locals who claim that they are an eyesore and take up too
    much space, despite the hangars being able to fit in a space usually reserved for one car.

    In November, a new cycle hangar in Norfolk Square, one of 60 already installed in the city since July 2022, was met with outrage after
    residents pointed out that it was hanging over two permit car parking
    spaces, prompting the council to investigate the hangar’s positioning.

    Later that month, a Hove woman successfully persuaded the council not to
    put one of the new hangars outside her home because it was “unattractive” – leading one councillor to observe that people opposed to them do not
    seem to have a problem with “Range Rovers that are half parked on the pavement”.

    And in January, things became even more heated when the council was
    accused of misleading the public after it claimed that a group of “unhappy” residents “surrounded” contractors tasked with installing one of the new hangars.

    According to the council, staff from parking enforcement contractors NSL
    were in the process of implementing a parking suspension, in preparation
    for the installation of a second bike hangar on Cissbury Road, Hove, when they were “surrounded by a lot of unhappy residents”.

    However, a Cissbury Road resident criticised the council’s account, branding it “misleading”, and claimed that he “had barely gotten a word out before I was threatened with the police”.

    But, even in Brighton and Hove it seems, the hangars have yet to be
    blamed for the inattentiveness and carelessness of motorists driving into them (as far as we can tell).

    As one cyclist noted on Twitter (link is external) this week, “is there anything that can’t be blamed on cycling infrastructure and cyclists?”




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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 18:51:27 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Twenty new bike hangars are being installed on streets across the Bath
    area as part of a two-year trial to provide secure on-street cycle parking.

    What has Bath done to deserve such a fate?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 12:24:03 2023
    The council is cutting the cost of bike hangars spaces in Lambeth to help residents reduce their cost of living and carbon emissions.

    The cut will make sure that a family of four will pay less to store their bikes than they pay for any residents parking permit for a car – which is currently just over £120 per year for an electric vehicle.

    The on-street cycle storage units are important in helping people who live in flats and other homes with limited space keep their bike safe and secure when they are at home.

    The price reduction of £12 per bike for a 12-month permit will come into effect from 10 August 2023.

    Cllr Rezina Chowdhury, Lambeth’s Deputy Leader (Sustainable Lambeth and Clean Air), said:

    “We know that residents are struggling with the cost of living and that they want to do more to tackle the climate emergency.

    “A family that cycles should not pay more to store their vehicles than one that drives, but this was the effect of per-vehicle pricing. Now a family of four will not pay more to cycle than drive, and an individual will pay only a quarter for
    parking if they cycle.”

    “Road traffic is a danger, particularly to children and disabled people, and toxic air hurts everyone. Walking and cycling make our streets safer, our air cleaner and is good for our health.

    The council has a role to play in creating the right incentives for people to make greener choices.”

    “This new measure supports our wider work to support our communities as we work on improving our neighbourhoods, improving our health and becoming net zero by 2030.”

    There are currently 423 bike hangars in Lambeth, providing 2,538 cycle spaces, as part of the council’s commitment to installing 5,000 secure cycle storage spaces by 2026.

    As well as annual subscriptions falling from £42 to £30, the council is also currently reviewing its charges for cycle storage on estates with a view to also cutting the cost to help ensure even more residents can afford access to secure bike storage.

    These initiatives are part of Lambeth Council’s wider efforts to transform local streets to make them more pleasant, enjoyable public spaces that meet the challenges of a changing climate.

    The council’s award-winning Kerbside Strategy will see a quarter of the kerbside reclaimed from car parking spaces, to allow for more community parklets, cycle infrastructure and climate resilient measures.

    The council’s Big Shift campaign is also supporting people to make the switch from cars to sustainable forms of travel wherever possible.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Aug 12 21:06:40 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    The council is cutting the cost of bike hangars spaces in Lambeth to help residents reduce their cost of living and carbon emissions.

    <snip>

    You posted this less than 48 hours ago.

    Brain problems, perhaps?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Sun Aug 13 00:13:54 2023
    On 12/08/2023 10:06 pm, Spike wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    The council is cutting the cost of bike hangars spaces in Lambeth to help
    residents reduce their cost of living and carbon emissions.

    <snip>

    You posted this less than 48 hours ago.

    Brain problems, perhaps?

    no "perhaps" about it!

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 13 00:13:21 2023
    The 100th bike hanger in Enfield borough has been installed, providing secure residential parking space for 600 cyclists.

    The bike hangars are on-street cycle storage containers that are accessible by key to those who pay for membership to that hangar.

    A lack of space to park and store a bike at home is a barrier for many residents who might otherwise choose to cycle.

    Rick Jewell, Enfield Council’s cabinet member for environment, said: “Through the journeys and places programme, the council is working to deliver secure cycle parking for residents across the borough.

    “Bike hangars are fantastic as they provide an affordable and safe place for residents to park their bikes. There is more to be done, and we need to ensure we are making the best use of our roads, as the cycle hangars take up less space than a car but
    can secure up to six bicycles.

    “More cycle parking close to homes, along with safe space to cycle on our roads, will enable more of our community to choose this healthy form of travel. I am very proud we have reached this important milestone of one hundred Enfield bike hangars.”

    Residents can apply for a space in an existing bike hangar near to their home: Email cycleparking@enfield.gov.uk

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 13 07:42:33 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    The 100th bike hanger in Enfield borough has been installed, providing
    secure residential parking space for 600 cyclists.

    But tell us, do, when the residents are safely locked in their bicycle
    bins, where do they store their bicycles?

    Residents can apply for a space in an existing bike hangar near to their home:
    Email cycleparking@enfield.gov.uk

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 13 02:38:06 2023
    A cycle hangar is to be moved from one part of Warren Street in Fitzrovia to another location on the street because it is repeatedly struck by drivers of motor vehicles, according to a Camden Council report.

    The cycle hanger will be moved from outside number 45 to about 100m east to outside number 58 Warren Street and next to an existing cycle hangar. A single tree is also to be planted across the street.

    The bike hangar is fully occupied with six cycles and 26 residents are on the waiting list for spaces.

    “The hangar is located opposite the streatery (outdoor seating area in a suspended parking bay) outside the Smugglers Tavern public house and has been damaged on more than one occasion by [drivers of] motor vehicles.

    “The bike hangar is at potential risk of further damage in the future due to the street being narrow at the existing location. It is therefore recommended that the existing bike hangar be relocated as proposed where the street is significantly wider,
    and the risk of damage would be significantly reduced,” states the report.

    However, while the bike hangar is located within the parking bay the streatery extends beyond the bay. The streatery is also showing signs of damage.

    Camden has installed 237 bike hangars as of March 2023, across the Borough. There is a growing demand from residents living in high density dwellings that are common in the Borough and usually have limited space for covered and secure cycle parking.

    “Waiting list data provided by Cyclehoop and Falco (the Council’s previous cycle hangar supplier) indicates that the majority of the 237 hangars installed in the Borough, so far, are fully occupied with a combined waiting list of 9,219 people. The
    implementation of a hangar in an area usually increases the number of requests in that locality, such is the demand for bike hangar parking,” states the report.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 13 09:52:52 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    A cycle hangar is to be moved from one part of Warren Street in Fitzrovia
    to another location on the street because it is repeatedly struck by
    drivers of motor vehicles, according to a Camden Council report.

    Is Camden Council claiming that drivers get out of their vehicles and kick
    the crap out of the bicycle bin?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 13 04:00:00 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:38:08 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: A cycle hangar is to be moved from one part of Warren Street in Fitzrovia to another location on the street because it is repeatedly struck by drivers of motor vehicles, according to a Camden Council report. ENDS

    Have they tried using hi-vis paint?
    Or are they all blinded by the Sun?

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 13 11:12:58 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:38:08 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: A cycle hangar is to be moved from one part of Warren Street in Fitzrovia to another location on the street because it is repeatedly
    struck by drivers of motor vehicles, according to a Camden Council report. ENDS

    Have they tried using hi-vis paint?
    Or are they all blinded by the Sun?

    Why would drivers painting their vehicles in hi viz help the problem? Bicyclists don’t do that, why should anyone else?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 13 05:27:49 2023
    Lambeth Council is bolstering its on-street cycle storage by rolling the first adapted bike hangars to make it easier for residents of all abilities to safely store their bikes.

    There are currently 423 bike hangars in Lambeth, providing 2,538 cycle spaces, as part of the council’s commitment to installing 5,000 secure cycle storage spaces by 2026.

    However, many users of adapted cycles such as tandems or hand bikes would not fit inside because of their larger dimensions.

    Now, adapted bike users can also register their interest in securing an adapted hangar for their own street.

    Cllr Rezina Chowdhury, Deputy council leader and cabinet member for Sustainable Lambeth and Clean Air, said: “We are making cycling easier and more accessible for everyone in Lambeth, but ensuring we have the right infrastructure is crucial.

    “That means providing space for people to securely store their bikes close to their homes.

    “For many families who use adapted bikes, the ordinary hangars are too small for the larger, more cumbersome bikes.

    “By installing more adapted cycling hangars and increasing the overall number of hangars in Lambeth, we can support even more people to make the transition to more sustainable forms of travel.”

    The first adapted bike hangar was installed by Cyclehoop in March – and it has already put a smile on the face of 13-year-old Isaac.

    Isaac, 13, who has Down’s Syndrome, can now enjoy bike rides with his father on their adapted tandem on the roads in Lambeth.

    The family approached Lambeth Council requesting a hangar to help store their 20kg tandem and were able to secure a hangar suitable for the bike.

    Isaac’s mother Catherine said: “Before the hangar was installed, we struggled to store the adapted bike, and we would have to bring it in and out of the house each time we wanted to use it.

    “But it’s now easier for us to get out and cycle than ever before.

    “With Isaac’s disability, there are certain things we can’t do. But now we can safely store his bike, we can go on family cycle rides together and it makes cycling to school so much easier.

    “Our neighbours are happy to have the hangar and are asking for another one in our street. A lot of households have bikes and don’t have a garage, so it can be difficult for everyone.

    “I’d encourage all households to contact the council and see if a hangar would work for them.”

    Lambeth Council is transforming local streets to make them more pleasant, enjoyable public spaces that meet the challenges of a changing climate.

    The council’s award-winning Kerbside Strategy will see a quarter of the kerbside reclaimed from car parking spaces, to allow for more community parklets, cycle infrastructure and climate resilient measures.

    The council’s Big Shift campaign is also supporting people to make the switch from cars to sustainable forms of travel wherever possible.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 13 15:49:20 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Lambeth Council is bolstering its on-street cycle storage by rolling the first adapted bike hangars to make it easier for residents of all
    abilities to safely store their bikes.

    Will they be painting the bicycle bins in hi viz and fitting them with
    lights and reflectors?

    Thought not!

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 13 10:05:44 2023
    New cycle hangars will be installed outside council tower blocks in Bristol next year to give cyclists somewhere safe to store their bicycles. Bristol mayor Marvin Rees said a new plan will look at installing cycle hangars at 16 sites across the city,
    with spaces for 168 bikes.

    Bristol already has a few secure cycle hangars, which allow people with little storage space at home to safely lock up their bikes. The hangars look like large bread bins, take up the space of about one car, and usually have enough room to store several
    bicycles.

    Responding to calls for safer cycling infrastructure in the city, the mayor said the “single biggest flaw” in transport planning is to have a “single focus”. In a recent blog post on his website, he said an underground railway network would allow
    for more segregated cycle lanes to be built. Campaigners said many cyclists would likely “not be satisfied” with the mayor’s response.

    Mr Rees said in the blog post: “As part of our work with the West of England combined authority, we’ve been able to begin the project for a programme of cycle hangars in the city. We will use the funding which will be made available at the January
    committee to prioritise cycle hangars for council blocks.

    “The project scored blocks against strategic criteria such as their links to the strategic cycling network, levels of deprivation and car ownership. This identified 168 cycle hangar spaces for 16 sites, and we’ll begin installation next year.”

    Calls are growing on Bristol City Council to make the city safer for cyclists. Earlier this month thousands petitioned council chiefs to come up with a plan for a comprehensive network of safe bike lanes, a proper bike share scheme, and cycle hangars to
    clamp down on rampant bike theft. The mayor’s blog post is his formal response to the petition for safer cycling.

    Mr Rees added: “When dealing with transport planning, the single biggest flaw is to approach the challenge through a single focus. Our challenge is to enable people’s movement while bringing people with us on a journey to sustainable, efficient, low
    carbon travel. Many campaigns struggle: alienating and isolating people, building barriers to growing support for change.

    “Active Travel England has set out standards that we aspire to where they are deliverable. We want to deliver infrastructure which enables growth of cycling among more disadvantaged communities. Bristol has a clear transport hierarchy, which
    prioritises pedestrians and then cyclists.

    “Our mass transit plans have progressed and are ready to be completed by the next administration and the combined authority. This is the single most transformation [sic] approach to transport in our city for a century and will remove more car journeys
    than any other initiative, paving the way for far greater implementation of segregated cycling and active travel like other modern cities.”

    Current plans to build new cycle lanes in Bristol are detailed in a document called the Local Cycling Walking Infrastructure Plan, which covers the whole of the West of England region. Mr Rees said new routes in this document would increase cycling in
    disadvantaged areas, but critics say many of these plans are sub-standard and focus only on major commuter routes. There are also no dates for when the works will be done, only before the year 2036.

    Elsewhere, the council is applying for £14 million from the government’s Levelling Up fund to build a new Family Cycling Centre in Lawrence Weston. This would help people learn to ride a bike in a safe environment, but would also mean the closure of
    the Bristol Family Cycling Centre in Hengrove Park.

    Mr Rees added that the council is taking a “holistic approach” to improving the city’s transport network. This includes the hugely popular Voi e-scooter trial, which he claimed has taken three million car journeys off the roads and saved “
    hundreds of thousands of kilos of carbon dioxide emissions”; as well as the new Clean Air Zone, and plans for fining drivers for moving traffic offences.

    Ian Pond, who organised the cycling petition and chairs the Bristol Cycling Campaign, said the mayor’s blog post did not address the issues which his petition called for earlier this month.

    He said: “The petition asked Bristol City Council to complete and publish an updated cycling delivery plan, as was committed to in the 2019 Bristol Transport Strategy. The mayor’s article is not a cycling delivery plan; it is a description of some
    individual initiatives, some concerned with cycling, but others not.

    “Petition signatories are expecting a comprehensive strategy and plan for cycling, just as motor vehicles and public transport are given in the Bristol Transport Strategy. I don’t think that the almost 4,000 Bristol residents who signed the petition
    will be satisfied with this response."

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