• Drivers and their problems

    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 24 14:03:55 2023
    A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don't quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes.

    David9694 | 2740 posts | 1 week ago
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    Anxieties swirl after latest accident on 'terrifying' Leighton Buzzard road where there have been 50 accidents in 5 years

    “Local people are very concerned. I’ve travelled on this road daily for more than five years. It’s terrifying. Can someone please do something about this.”

    response so far
    It’s been acknowledged there have been about 50 personal injury accidents along this route from April 2016 to March 2022. Some of these incidents are because of common types of error, such as:

    46 per cent or 23 of them involved failure to look properly;
    24 per cent or 12 of these failure to judge another person’s speed or direction;
    18 per cent or nine were caused by careless or reckless driving by someone in a hurry;
    and 12 per cent or six were the result of a driver exceeding the speed limit.

    EDIT - just added this up and realised its a full house. Drivers and their problems. WDIW?

    https://road.cc/content/forum/drivers-and-their-problems-296315

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 24 21:52:49 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don't quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes.

    David9694 | 2740 posts | 1 week ago
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    Anxieties swirl after latest accident on 'terrifying' Leighton Buzzard
    road where there have been 50 accidents in 5 years

    To borrow the cyclist’s favourite trope in these situations: “It’s only a handful, why bother doing anything?”.

    “Local people are very concerned. I’ve travelled on this road daily for more than five years. It’s terrifying. Can someone please do something about this.”

    response so far
    It’s been acknowledged there have been about 50 personal injury accidents along this route from April 2016 to March 2022. Some of these incidents
    are because of common types of error, such as:

    46 per cent or 23 of them involved failure to look properly;
    24 per cent or 12 of these failure to judge another person’s speed or direction;
    18 per cent or nine were caused by careless or reckless driving by someone in a hurry;
    and 12 per cent or six were the result of a driver exceeding the speed limit.

    EDIT - just added this up and realised its a full house. Drivers and their problems. WDIW?

    https://road.cc/content/forum/drivers-and-their-problems-296315




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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 01:12:35 2023
    David9694 | 2743 posts | 1 week ago
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    Van with rolls of carpet sticking out stopped by police in Luton

    Locals have already bagged the available puns on this story...or have they?.

    https://www.bedfordshirelive.co.uk/news/bedfordshire-news/van-rolls-carpet-sticking-out-8603546

    https://i2-prod.bedfordshirelive.co.uk/incoming/article8603550.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_police-lay-down-1034742.jpg

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 08:54:41 2023
    A woman who moved traffic cones to cross over a major Essex A-road to avoid traffic queues has been fined. Footage of the woman went viral in April this year when she was queuing in traffic due to a crash and decided to move two rows of traffic cones on
    a central area of the A12 to try and avoid the queues.

    In the footage, the woman attempts to drive into the parallel lane before being spoken to by National Highways contractor Andrew Craig. Mr Craig has now described what happened as part of a National Highways campaign to educate road users about the
    dangers of not following instructions around roadworks.

    He said: “There had been a collision further up the A12 – which was the reason for the congestion. I was driving towards the incident to help when I came across the lady moving cones and trying to get her car in a more free-flowing lane. Stopping my
    vehicle to deal with it delayed me getting to the collision and helping those affected. It also put me in an incredibly dangerous situation, which was completely avoidable.

    “You can see from the footage how busy that section of road was, and the actions of the lady was understandably drawing the attention of other motorists who were driving yards away from where we were both stood. Just one distracted driver could have
    easily led to a fatal accident."

    Following the incident, a 66-year-old woman from south London was issued with a conditional caution. She was also fined £100, with the money going to a road worker safety charity. Moving cones and driving through a marked-off area is an offence and a
    breach of the Highway Code.

    Karl Brooks – National Highways’ Programme Delivery Manager in the East Region - said: “We understand that nobody likes being stuck in a car and queueing through roadworks, so we plan very carefully and, where possible, carry out work overnight and
    at weekends when roads are at their quietest. Unfortunately, that’s not always possible and traffic management measures like cones and signs are there for the safety of the public and those working to improve the road network.

    “We do everything we can to highlight roadworks – and alongside our contractors – we train those working on the road network to recognise potentially dangerous situations and take every precaution they can to minimise that risk.

    "We are now urging drivers to do the same; if you’re driving through a section of roadworks please take extra care, follow the signs, and think about the people working there to make the road you’re travelling on better. Safety is an absolute
    priority for National Highways; we want everyone to get home safe and well, and that goes for our workers too.”

    https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/woman-who-moved-traffic-cones-8599343

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 16:17:10 2023
    Cyclists can, of course, just weave between the cones. Just as illegal, of course.

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    A woman who moved traffic cones to cross over a major Essex A-road to
    avoid traffic queues has been fined. Footage of the woman went viral in
    April this year when she was queuing in traffic due to a crash and
    decided to move two rows of traffic cones on a central area of the A12 to
    try and avoid the queues.

    In the footage, the woman attempts to drive into the parallel lane before being spoken to by National Highways contractor Andrew Craig. Mr Craig
    has now described what happened as part of a National Highways campaign
    to educate road users about the dangers of not following instructions around roadworks.

    He said: “There had been a collision further up the A12 – which was the reason for the congestion. I was driving towards the incident to help
    when I came across the lady moving cones and trying to get her car in a
    more free-flowing lane. Stopping my vehicle to deal with it delayed me getting to the collision and helping those affected. It also put me in an incredibly dangerous situation, which was completely avoidable.

    “You can see from the footage how busy that section of road was, and the actions of the lady was understandably drawing the attention of other motorists who were driving yards away from where we were both stood. Just
    one distracted driver could have easily led to a fatal accident."

    Following the incident, a 66-year-old woman from south London was issued
    with a conditional caution. She was also fined £100, with the money going
    to a road worker safety charity. Moving cones and driving through a marked-off area is an offence and a breach of the Highway Code.

    Karl Brooks – National Highways’ Programme Delivery Manager in the East Region - said: “We understand that nobody likes being stuck in a car and queueing through roadworks, so we plan very carefully and, where
    possible, carry out work overnight and at weekends when roads are at
    their quietest. Unfortunately, that’s not always possible and traffic management measures like cones and signs are there for the safety of the public and those working to improve the road network.

    “We do everything we can to highlight roadworks – and alongside our contractors – we train those working on the road network to recognise potentially dangerous situations and take every precaution they can to minimise that risk.

    "We are now urging drivers to do the same; if you’re driving through a section of roadworks please take extra care, follow the signs, and think about the people working there to make the road you’re travelling on better. Safety is an absolute priority for National Highways; we want everyone to get home safe and well, and that goes for our workers too.”

    https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/woman-who-moved-traffic-cones-8599343




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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 09:32:04 2023
    David9694 | 2746 posts | 1 week ago
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    Driver caught speeding at 100mph in Wiltshire claims electric car was 'running out of charge'

    A Specialist Operations unit at Wiltshire Police tweeted a picture of a device recording 101mph.

    The caption said "the driver of the electric vehicle stated they were in a rush to plug in for more charge they didn’t understand the faster you go the more juice the car uses!"

    The force said: "A trip to court awaits where hopefully more common sense prevails. #Fatal5".

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 09:38:31 2023
    A spokesperson from Lancashire Police said: ‘As a responder, when you hear ‘car trapped under a lorry’, you prepare yourself for the worst.

    ‘This lorry was parked up in Rawtenstall with the driver soundly asleep in his cab when the Mercedes collided with the rear of it, becoming trapped underneath the tail mounted forklift.

    ‘Incredibly, the Mercedes driver suffered relatively minor injuries despite travelling at around 60mph (in a 40mph limit) when the collision occurred. He also passed all impairment tests.

    ‘The Mercedes driver has been reported to court for driving without due care and attention, driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence and driving without insurance.’

    All of the comments about it are saying how lucky the driver was etc etc. Nothing about how f-ing stupid he was driving that fast and clearly not paying attention - on the whole, parked lorries are not difficult to spot...

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 11:04:11 2023
    irsute | 7815 posts | 1 week ago
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    'We can't use new drive because council put bollards in front of it - we're trapped'

    TRAPPED I TELL YOU !

    Then you read that they use a pedestrian crossing to go over the pavement to the house, failed to ask permission for anything and thought driving over a ped crossing was normal.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1Um65rX0AAfuyI?format=jpg&name=small

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 19:28:25 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    irsute | 7815 posts | 1 week ago
    7 likes

    'We can't use new drive because council put bollards in front of it - we're trapped'

    TRAPPED I TELL YOU !

    Then you read that they use a pedestrian crossing to go over the pavement
    to the house, failed to ask permission for anything and thought driving
    over a ped crossing was normal.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1Um65rX0AAfuyI?format=jpg&name=small

    Arse covering by the Local Authority.

    Where’s the pedestrian crossing, then?

    And why was a dropped kerb there (not shown in the photo)?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 12:34:43 2023
    David9694 | 2746 posts | 1 day ago
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    More signs needed in Nottingham to stop drivers blocking tram route as car dealership approved.

    one more sign will fix it.

    :-)

    https://road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/IMG_4800.jpeg

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 20:38:20 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    David9694 | 2746 posts | 1 day ago
    3 likes

    More signs needed in Nottingham to stop drivers blocking tram route as
    car dealership approved.

    one more sign will fix it.

    :-)

    https://road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/IMG_4800.jpeg

    One more sign will fix it.

    <https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/245-cyclists-caught-riding-on-expressways-from-jan-to-sept-as-more-pick-up-cycling-as>

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 14:12:28 2023
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    David9694 replied to OnYerBike | 2746 posts | 6 days ago
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    And I see another food delivery rider has been convicted of running a red light and giving a ped a broken foot, so we'll be hearing about that for the next 3 years.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 14:05:26 2023
    HoldingOn wrote:

    Ignoring the (assumed) drivist responses, as I've sat here thinking about this - I actually think it is about time.

    I have been noticing pedestrian crossings changing to amber while (generally older) people are still trying to cross. I can imagine some drivers will start to drive through because "its amber and that means go"

    I see it most days: drivers waiting until people are not directly in front of their car on a zebra crossing then pulling away; drivers doing the same on pelican crossings, as long as the light is amber...

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 01:46:44 2023
    Southampton: Car hits barriers after switching lanes

    Another driverless car crashing. The only driver mentioned was one who was trying to take photos of the crash.

    A car ploughed into road barriers after switching lanes at the last minute.

    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/resources/images/17020849.jpg?type=mds-article-962

    Officers were called to the scene earlier today and discovered the car mounted on top of the barriers.

    The car was travelling towards the M27 when it attempted to cross into another lane, heading to the M271.

    In an online post, officers said: “If you're in the wrong lane, do not just move over at the last minute.

    “Carry on to the next available safe location to turn around and continue with your journey.

    “Accidents like this in Southampton can be avoided.”

    The post went on to say that a 'keen driver' decided to almost bring traffic to a stop to photograph the crash scene.

    They added: "She failed to see the police officer stood in front of her whilst taking a picture, and our marked police car."

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 01:55:54 2023
    Fuming drivers call for new speed cameras to be taken down after thousands are caught

    One driver was caught travelling at 73mph on a 30mph road but some have called for the cameras to be removed.

    Four new bi-directional speed cameras in Devon and Cornwall have received mixed reviews after they caught more than 3,000 speeding drivers in the first few days of being operational. Unlike conventional speed cameras, bi-directional speed cameras are
    able to monitor both directions of traffic.

    The four cameras – which have been operational for between seven and 15 days - have detected a whopping 3,280 speeding offences in that time. One of the cameras - in Exmouth - has been activated about 120 times per day in the first two weeks, while
    another detected a driver travelling at 73mph on a 30mph road.

    In Devon, the new digital cameras replaced older Gatso models on Exeter Road in Exmouth and the A385 Ashburton Road in Totnes. These cameras were funded by the Vision Zero South West Road Safety Partnership. In Cornwall, two sets of bi-directional
    cameras have been erected on the A390 at Drakewalls and St Ann’s Chapel near Gunnislake. These cameras were funded by Cornwall Council.


    The A376 Exeter Road cameras have been activated 1,671 times since 14/6/23, with the highest speed recorded at 61mph
    On Ashburton Road, the cameras have been activated 865 times since 16/6/23, with the highest speed recorded at 56mph
    The cameras at St Annes Chapel has seen 599 activations since 14/6/23, with the highest recorded speed at 73mph
    At Drakewalls, the cameras have been activated 145 times since 22/6/23, with the highest speed recorded at 47mph

    But despite their early success rate some members of the public have criticised the cameras with some calling for them to be taken down. Commenting on Facebook, Clive Sherriff said: "Nothing to do with naughty motorists. It's simply a funds raiser!"

    Scott Rennie said: "Just more and more money-making machines." Debbie Summers demanded: "Take it down."

    David Dale claimed the new speed cameras would lead to "everyone in the country" having a speeding conviction.

    He said: "120 a day won't be long and everyone in the country will have a speeding conviction or end up driving at 25mph just to make sure they don't, causing tailbacks and even more exasperated drivers who will speed up the moment they pass them."

    And Dmitri Kuznetznov said: "All I see is more infrastructure being used to bleed the money out of the public. Britain's obsession with cameras is very cringe."

    Not everyone was of the same opinion and some called out the dangerous drivers. "If you don't like the speed cameras please raise your right foot," pointed out David Smith.

    Caspar Hughes said: "Good work! These dangerous drivers need to be dealt with and taken off the road for all our safety."

    Keith Oakes demanded the offenders have their cars taken away from them, saying: "Fine them and take the car off them for three months and make them sit another driving test that should slow them down if not ban them from driving for a year caught again
    scrap the car."

    Raymond Taylor said: "Good work. I call speeding fines an idiot tax. It's easy money to help the economy. If you can't limit your vehicle to adhere to speed limits, especially in modern vehicles, you're an idiot and deserve to get an idiot tax. Good work
    Devon and Cornwall Police."

    Graham Mullis commented: "So many signs there and the cameras are so noticeable. Some people are so stupid." And Steve Thomas said: "Stop speeding and you won't get fined and then you can stop moaning about it being a revenue maker."

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 26 08:21:51 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    HoldingOn wrote:

    Ignoring the (assumed) drivist responses, as I've sat here thinking
    about this - I actually think it is about time.

    I have been noticing pedestrian crossings changing to amber while (generally older) people are still trying to cross. I can imagine some drivers will start to drive through because "its amber and that means go"

    I see it most days: drivers waiting until people are not directly in
    front of their car on a zebra crossing then pulling away; drivers doing
    the same on pelican crossings, as long as the light is amber...

    Whatever you do, don’t monitor people crossing the road at traffic lights
    on red….A recent survey by road.cc showed 50% of cyclists blatantly
    ignoring the red.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 06:32:19 2023
    A motorist has given a whole new meaning to the phrase on the rocks as shocked bystanders watched a car mount boulders at a popular beach in Cornwall. The Jaguar XF Estate got in a sticky situation at popular Widemouth Bay.

    It happened on Thursday (June 1) just days after a BMW washed out to sea on Trevaunance Beach in St Agnes. A witness said fire crews and members of the coastguard attended the scene near Bude to ensure the vehicle wasn't posing a threat to the public.
    The vehicle was then covered in tape and a bollard was put out while the vehicle awaited recovery.

    It's not known how the vehicle came to be on the rocks - which surround the car park - but pictures show significant damage. It appears as though the subframe bent over half the rock, causing the vehicle to become wedged.

    Becky Wise saw the incident unfold. She felt bad for the "poor chap" but said people watching on "found it very amusing". "The fire brigade turned up in blue lights, the coastguards and fire crew all took a good look round but I think they all concluded
    it wasn't going anywhere.

    "It looked like the subframe had bent in half over the rock. Out came the bollard and tape and it was left for a recovery vehicle I assume. We all found it very amusing, poor chap."

    https://i2-prod.cornwalllive.com/incoming/article8489951.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/1_LL_DCM20623-car-stuck.jpg

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 06:30:20 2023
    Musician Noel Gallagher must pay more than £1,000 for failing to tell police who was driving his Range Rover.

    The 56-year-old former Oasis star, who cannot drive, was also handed six penalty points.

    He refused to give information relating to the identification of a driver when required by magistrates earlier this week.

    Gallagher's Range Rover was recorded speeding at 41mph on a 30mph stretch of the A40 in west London in October.

    The guitarist and songwriter's case was dealt with at Willesden Magistrates' Court on Wednesday. Under the Single Justice Procedure, Gallagher was not required to be present.

    He was fined £742 and told to pay a £296 victim surcharge plus £100 costs, a court official confirmed.

    His manager declined to comment.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 26 14:08:20 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Musician Noel Gallagher must pay more than £1,000 for failing to tell
    police who was driving his Range Rover.

    The 56-year-old former Oasis star, who cannot drive, was also handed six penalty points.

    He refused to give information relating to the identification of a driver when required by magistrates earlier this week.

    Gallagher's Range Rover was recorded speeding at 41mph on a 30mph stretch
    of the A40 in west London in October.

    The guitarist and songwriter's case was dealt with at Willesden
    Magistrates' Court on Wednesday. Under the Single Justice Procedure, Gallagher was not required to be present.

    He was fined £742 and told to pay a £296 victim surcharge plus £100
    costs, a court official confirmed.

    His manager declined to comment.

    Who was the victim?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Kelvinjohn agreed that the parking on Wed Jul 26 08:21:23 2023
    Visitors slam 'extortionate' parking charges at popular Devon beach (Wollacoombe- also 'won't return' klaxon)

    The fees have received mixed reviews with one calling the trip a ‘waste of time’

    User Charley M said the parking charge was extortionate. She commented on June 5: “Car parking… £10 for 1 hour?! We had no other choice but to pay it.

    “Daylight robbery. We were taking little one for her first play in the sand, turns out she isn’t a beach babe! Otherwise we would have stayed longer. Should have gone to wales. Waste of time- won’t visit again.”

    Another user, Kelvinjohn agreed that the parking charges were 'unacceptable'. They said: "Car parking charges have become extortionate and really are a rip off despite their contributions to RNLI and beach maintenance. Ten pounds to park a car for a day
    or an hour is unacceptable." (See picture of "unacceptable" charges.)

    :-) https://road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/IMG_4678.jpeg

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 09:39:39 2023
    A man who refused to take an evidential breath test after being spotted driving erratically has been banned from driving for four years. Officers from Devon and Cornwall Police’s No Excuse team spotted Connor Dennison’s red BMW weaving across two
    lanes on the A390 between Treliske Hospital and Threemilestone in Truro on April 13.

    Video footage from the unmarked police vehicle shows the moment officers pulled Dennison over after witnessing him driving erratically. Dennison was breathalysed at the roadside, where he gave a breath test of 78 microgrammes of alcohol per 100
    millilitres of breath – more than double the prescribed limit of 35 microgrammes.

    However, when he was arrested and taken to Camborne police station to provide an evidential breath test, he refused and was subsequently charged with failing to provide a specimen for analysis. Dennison, aged 24 from Truro, appeared in court on Tuesday,
    June 13, where he pleaded guilty to the charge.

    He was disqualified from driving for 48 months and given a 10-day community order with a rehabilitation requirement. The court also ordered Dennison to pay a £323 fine, £85 costs and a £114 victim surcharge.

    Chief Inspector Ben Asprey, head of roads policing in Devon and Cornwall and chair of the Vision Zero South West tactical tasking group, said: “The substantial length of the driving ban in this case should act as a warning to others.
    Dennison, aged 24 from Truro, was handed a 48 month driving ban and given a 10-day community order with a rehabilitation requirement.

    “Driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs is one of the biggest causes of fatal and serious collisions, known as the ‘Fatal Five’. If you get behind the wheel after drinking or taking drugs, you are putting your own life – as well as
    the lives of innocent members of the public – at risk.

    “We receive regular intelligence about roads being used by drink and drug drivers and coordinated our patrols to target these areas. Drink driving carries a mandatory driving ban of at least 12 months, which may lead to you losing your job, your
    livelihood and potentially much more. It’s just not worth it.”

    So far this year, up to May 30, there have been 790 arrests for drink driving in Devon and Cornwall, with over 500 giving evidential tests that are over the prescribed limit. During the same period, 904 drivers have been tested for drugs (cocaine and
    cannabis) with 417 arrests made.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 26 17:51:12 2023
    On 25/07/2023 05:38 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    A spokesperson from Lancashire Police said: ‘As a responder, when you hear ‘car trapped under a lorry’, you prepare yourself for the worst.

    ‘This lorry was parked up in Rawtenstall with the driver soundly asleep in his cab when the Mercedes collided with the rear of it, becoming trapped underneath the tail mounted forklift.

    ‘Incredibly, the Mercedes driver suffered relatively minor injuries despite travelling at around 60mph (in a 40mph limit) when the collision occurred. He also passed all impairment tests.

    ‘The Mercedes driver has been reported to court for driving without due care and attention, driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence and driving without insurance.’

    All of the comments about it are saying how lucky the driver was etc etc. Nothing about how f-ing stupid he was driving that fast and clearly not paying attention - on the whole, parked lorries are not difficult to spot...

    Where have we heard of moving vehicles colliding with parked vehicles
    before?

    Oh yes...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OrKLGEOVRA>

    and...

    <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gIquuQeZmOE>

    and this dishonest little prick...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHP0JhMTr5M>

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Jul 26 17:53:13 2023
    On 25/07/2023 08:28 pm, Spike wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    David9694 | 2746 posts | 1 week ago
    2 likes

    Driver caught speeding at 100mph in Wiltshire claims electric car was
    'running out of charge'

    A Specialist Operations unit at Wiltshire Police tweeted a picture of a
    device recording 101mph.

    The caption said "the driver of the electric vehicle stated they were in
    a rush to plug in for more charge they didn’t understand the faster you
    go the more juice the car uses!"

    The force said: "A trip to court awaits where hopefully more common sense
    prevails. #Fatal5".

    EVs have a lot to answer for.

    He was probably trying to get home before the battery exploded.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 10:04:37 2023
    Tourist season can reportedly leave locals ***trapped*** and unable to move their cars

    ----------------------------
    Cornwall, it's arguably Britain's most beautiful county so it's no wonder that many people journey hours and hours just to spend a weekend on its sandy shores. But with mass tourism comes big problems for those who call it home.

    This is a particular problem for the seaside town of St Ives where residents complain about "nightmare" tourists who inundate the area each year. According to A1 Cars' Andrew Ward, the summer season means a lot of additional traffic and mile-long queues
    snaking into the area, making it difficult for local people to get around.

    Speaking to The Express on whether he believes 2023 would be any different, Mr Ward said: "Well, basically it's the same every year so it won't be any busier this year than it is normally. The locals can't even move their own cars and the traffic gets
    horrendous. You only need to look at the chaos by Truro.

    "The whole of this end of Cornwall around Hale and down to Penzance can be a real nightmare with queuing traffic. We need the tourists, that's the only problem... a lot of the locals would prefer fewer tourists."

    Mr Ward's comments came days after a beach in St Ives was branded "hell on earth". One of the beaches was slammed by irate users on TripAdvisor who weren't pleased with what they found.

    One user, who went by the name Philip H said the water was too cold and that beach had the wrong type of sand. He wrote: "Very cold water. We visited the beach yesterday. We had to walk ages to the sea because the tide was out and when we got there it
    was freezing and very windy."

    Philip H added: "The sand was awful as it is the wrong sort of sand and very sticky. It got everywhere and I'm still finding bits today! Won't be back next year."

    Another user, known as WendyAH8 said: "Hideous, overcrowded, noisy, covered in litter. Why would anyone with any sense want to go to this place which is hell on earth?

    "Crowded, noisy, nothing to eat but bad fish and chips and Cornish pasties, and the beach packed full of the morbidly obese, screaming sunburnt children in buggies and people with tattoos.

    "The place to go to see parenting at its worst and cardiovascular disease waiting to happen."

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornish-town-overrun-nightmare-tourists-8582733

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 10:08:40 2023
    A mum has faced abuse for having to park on a busy A-road after double yellow lines were painted over her usual parking spot. Laura Murray, who lives in Keynsham with her son, originally used the on-street parking on Pixash Lane which was removed in
    February as part of work to accommodate the new Keynsham Recycling Hub.

    Now she has been forced to leave her car parked on the busy A4 Bath Road in order to park near her house, but has faced abuse from other drivers. Ms Murray said: “It’s been an absolute nightmare.”

    She said: “That’s the only legal place I can park because anywhere else is double yellows. They won’t let me park on the land outside my house because it's not a dropped kerb and apparently it's too close to the junction.”

    Ms Murray said she had to deal with rude messages written about her in local Facebook groups, drivers coming past “effing and blinding” at her, and abusive language written in dust on her car.

    She said: “It’s kind of like living in fear in my own home. I don’t feel safe in my own home at the moment.”

    Ms Murray says she was working with others on the street and is taking the issue to the local government ombudsman. She has also spoken to local MP Jacob Rees-Mogg who plans to raise the issue in Parliament.

    She said she had been told by the council it was not obligated to provide parking, but she said: “I’m just asking you to give it back. You took it.”

    Manda Rigby, Bath and North East Somerset Council ’s cabinet member for highways, said: “The need to provide these parking restrictions has been in the public domain for some time as it formed part of the Transport Assessment in support of the
    planning application for Keynsham Recycling Hub that was submitted in January 2021.

    “The correct process was followed to introduce the double yellow line parking restrictions through a Traffic Regulation Order (TRO), including notices on site and adverts within local newspapers as required.

    “Once we have had time to monitor traffic safety, we will undertake a review of the parking restrictions to determine whether any changes can be made. We’ll also be investigating some other potential ideas suggested by residents for improving Pixash
    Lane.

    “Separate to this, we have [on Friday July 7] removed a section of double yellow lines in nearby Ashmead Road which will free up some parking there. These had been put in on a temporary basis when a booking system had operated at the recycling centre,
    but are no longer necessary.”

    But Ms Murray said the parking on Ashmead road would not help people now forced to park on Bath Road. Local councillor Hal McFie and council officers will hold a meeting with concerned residents at the Masonic Hall at 6pm tonight (July 10).

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 26 18:09:51 2023
    On 26/07/2023 02:30 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Musician Noel Gallagher must pay more than £1,000 for failing to tell police who was driving his Range Rover.

    The 56-year-old former Oasis star, who cannot drive, was also handed six penalty points.

    So he's not bovvered...

    Quite clever, really... this way he's not feeling pressured into
    shopping a mate and £1,000 is nothing to him (which will be triggering
    May Sun's green jealousy).

    You'd have no difficulty with shopping a mate, though, May Sun?

    We all remember how you were *highly* amused when your wife got a Gatso
    ticket (whereas any normal close relative would have been outraged).

    Oh, just one more thing... who was riding the chav-bike?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 26 18:19:37 2023
    On 26/07/2023 04:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Visitors slam 'extortionate' parking charges at popular Devon beach (Wollacoombe- also 'won't return' klaxon)

    The fees have received mixed reviews with one calling the trip a ‘waste of time’

    User Charley M said the parking charge was extortionate. She commented on June 5: “Car parking… £10 for 1 hour?! We had no other choice but to pay it.

    “Daylight robbery. We were taking little one for her first play in the sand, turns out she isn’t a beach babe! Otherwise we would have stayed longer. Should have gone to wales. Waste of time- won’t visit again.”

    Another user, Kelvinjohn agreed that the parking charges were 'unacceptable'. They said: "Car parking charges have become extortionate and really are a rip off despite their contributions to RNLI and beach maintenance. Ten pounds to park a car for a
    day or an hour is unacceptable." (See picture of "unacceptable" charges.)

    :-) https://road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/IMG_4678.jpeg

    What "charges" are displayed in the image you cite?

    Just how thick ARE you?

    You are excelling yourself almost daily.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 10:33:46 2023
    A woman had to be cut free from a car by fire crews after the crash on the A41 near Newport, Shropshire at 1.15pm on Thursday. [report (link is external)]

    A car ended up on its roof on 30mph road after a collision on Belle Vue Road in Shrewsbury on Friday morning [report (link is external)]. A local resident I know was not at all surprised - far too much fast, dangerous, and inconsiderate driving on that
    road, he said.

    A driverless car went rogue in a "one-vehicle collision" in Parkway, Madeley, Telford shortly after 7am on Sunday morning when a car "left the roadway and came to rest on a concrete bollard and fence. Nobody was trapped inside". Isn't technology great.

    https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/Belle%20Vue%20crash%2030Jun23.jpg

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 10:36:12 2023
    Drivers are being warned about two Birmingham city-centre bus lanes which have caught 20,000 motorists - in just five months.

    Bus zones on Moor Street Queensway and Sheepcote Street both caught around 10,000 motorists each, between January and May this year.City Council bosses say the rules are clearly signposted, but people continue to either get confused about where they can
    drive in the restricted areas, or choose to ignore them as the fines grow.

    The Moor Street Queensway bus zone was launched two years ago, as part of major changes to city centre road rules, but it also caused confusion for thousands of motorists.There are signs the number of people getting into trouble is falling, but 9,910
    were still caught on the southbound section heading towards Digbeth between January and May this year.

    Another 10,733 were fined for passing through the bus lane on Sheepcote Street at the canal bridge near Broad Street.

    That's around 70 a day, and is the other key hotspot where motorists will most likely get fined.

    The two bus lanes alone have earned the City Council millions of pounds in revenue.

    The figures were passed to BirminghamLive following a Freedom of Information request.

    This comes as Birmingham City Council faces a black hole in its budget worth at least £650 million, after fresh equal pay claims emerged.

    These aren't the only lanes drivers are getting caught out either - 2,725 motorists were also fined at St Martin's Queensway and 2,228 others along various parts of Bordesley Green East.

    https://www.itv.com/news/central/2023-07-03/the-notorious-bus-lanes-that-caught-20000-drivers-in-just-five-months

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Jul 26 17:38:41 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 25/07/2023 08:28 pm, Spike wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    David9694 | 2746 posts | 1 week ago
    2 likes

    Driver caught speeding at 100mph in Wiltshire claims electric car was
    'running out of charge'

    A Specialist Operations unit at Wiltshire Police tweeted a picture of a
    device recording 101mph.

    The caption said "the driver of the electric vehicle stated they were in >>> a rush to plug in for more charge they didn’t understand the faster you >>> go the more juice the car uses!"

    The force said: "A trip to court awaits where hopefully more common sense >>> prevails. #Fatal5".

    EVs have a lot to answer for.

    He was probably trying to get home before the battery exploded.

    LOL

    --
    Spike

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 10:43:28 2023
    Concerns have been raised after a dangerous incident on the Downs where a motorist drove towards dozens of children in an outdoor classroom. This was after human excrement had to be cleared from the area in order for the youngsters' outing to continue.

    The incident took place on July 5 when 56 children visited the area from Weston-super Mare for an education session by the Avon Gorge & Downs Wildlife Project. The children were aged between four and six and were with adult helpers.

    In an email sent by AGDWP to the Downs Committee - seen by Bristol Live - the group says it arrived for the session and found the area strewn with human excrement and wipes. These were removed or covered over by the adults as the children were small and
    there was no time to take them to find another space.

    The email said: “We use a secluded ‘classroom’ area surrounded mostly by bushes and trees so we are removed from the main body of the Downs. Yesterday, a car began to drive into the classroom area while 29 five and six year olds were seated on the
    ground.”

    Two volunteers immediately approached the driver and asked him to back away, which he did, but then he parked on the trail which was about to be used by the children. The email said: “They asked him to move again and he refused and was very rude to
    them.”

    The volunteers remained calm in order to defuse the situation, according to the email. It added that the children had been placed in 'an extremely vulnerable position with a volatile person at the wheel of the car illegally on the Downs'.

    It stated that the car had been driven to the travellers camp. Travellers arrived at the Downs and set up camp towards the end of June.

    Robert Westlake, chair of Friends of the Downs & Avon Gorge said he was alarmed that such an incident should occur on the Downs. He said: “We would urge anyone who becomes involved in a confrontation to notify the police on 101 or ring 999 if it is an
    emergency."

    Travellers also arrived and set up camp on Hengrove Park in early June. A possession order was served by the council six days ago, but since then more people have arrived.

    At present, there is a shortage of sites in Bristol for traveller sites. There is a permanent traveller site with 12 pitches in Ashton Vale, 20 pitches in a transit traveller site in Lawrence Weston and a site with 12 plots for ethnic showpeople in
    Bedminster.

    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/volatile-motorist-downs-drove-towards-8588935?int_source=nba

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 10:45:22 2023
    Avatar
    essexian replied to HoldingOn | 220 posts | 3 weeks ago
    3 likes


    Like most BMW's, indicators were optional on my new car. I decided to pay the extra to have them fitted, just so I had the fun of not using them to signal a turn. They do however, come in handy when parking on double yellow lines as I pop into the shops
    for a take away.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 26 19:12:06 2023
    On 26/07/2023 05:39 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    A man who refused to take an evidential breath test after being spotted driving erratically has been banned from driving for four years. Officers from Devon and Cornwall Police’s No Excuse team spotted Connor Dennison’s red BMW weaving across two
    lanes on the A390 between Treliske Hospital and Threemilestone in Truro on April 13.

    Video footage from the unmarked police vehicle shows the moment officers pulled Dennison over after witnessing him driving erratically. Dennison was breathalysed at the roadside, where he gave a breath test of 78 microgrammes of alcohol per 100
    millilitres of breath – more than double the prescribed limit of 35 microgrammes.

    However, when he was arrested and taken to Camborne police station to provide an evidential breath test, he refused and was subsequently charged with failing to provide a specimen for analysis. Dennison, aged 24 from Truro, appeared in court on Tuesday,
    June 13, where he pleaded guilty to the charge.

    He was disqualified from driving for 48 months and given a 10-day community order with a rehabilitation requirement. The court also ordered Dennison to pay a £323 fine, £85 costs and a £114 victim surcharge.

    Chief Inspector Ben Asprey, head of roads policing in Devon and Cornwall and chair of the Vision Zero South West tactical tasking group, said: “The substantial length of the driving ban in this case should act as a warning to others.
    Dennison, aged 24 from Truro, was handed a 48 month driving ban and given a 10-day community order with a rehabilitation requirement.

    “Driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs is one of the biggest causes of fatal and serious collisions, known as the ‘Fatal Five’. If you get behind the wheel after drinking or taking drugs, you are putting your own life – as well
    as the lives of innocent members of the public – at risk.

    “We receive regular intelligence about roads being used by drink and drug drivers and coordinated our patrols to target these areas. Drink driving carries a mandatory driving ban of at least 12 months, which may lead to you losing your job, your
    livelihood and potentially much more. It’s just not worth it.”

    So far this year, up to May 30, there have been 790 arrests for drink driving in Devon and Cornwall, with over 500 giving evidential tests that are over the prescribed limit. During the same period, 904 drivers have been tested for drugs (cocaine and
    cannabis) with 417 arrests made.

    Disgusting.

    It's about time that drunk driving (and drunk chav-cycling by chavs on
    bikes boasting about coming home from the pub late at night after a
    skinful) was made illegal.

    And also high time that the death penalty was restored for murder and
    for dealing in, or possessing, illegal drugs. No ifs or buts.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 11:37:43 2023
    Nissan Micra seized for parking on same Sheffield pavement twice in six months.

    They've paid all that money for a pavement and the untaxed, uninsured walkers aren't even using it! Then you get into trouble when you try to use it with your tax paying, insured car.
    =================================
    A driver has had their car seized for a second time in six months for "appalling" parking at the exact same spot.

    The Nissan Micra was first confiscated in December last year after it was abandoned on a pavement in Sheffield.

    At the time, in a social media post, the Sheffield North West Neighbourhood Team said officers took action "after it was found parked in an appalling manner".

    But the driver apparently did not heed the warning as the same police team once again loaded the car onto a recovery truck after it was discovered parked in the same place this week.

    Pictures posted on Facebook show the vehicle has been spray painted with hearts in the interim.

    The team posted on Facebook: "We have recovered this vehicle again this week for parking in the same position we seized it from last year.

    "We started trialling Operation Park Safe in the North West area in 2022 to reduce the issue of illegal, dangerous and anti-social parking within our communities.

    "We will continue to seize any vehicles parked in this type of position and obstructing our streets."

    Is it illegal to park on a pavement?

    The Highway Code states that parking wholly or partially on a pavement in London is forbidden.

    Parking on the pavement outside of London is a grey area, legally speaking. It is treated differently, depending on the rules of your local council.

     The Highway Code states drivers should not park on the pavement, unless doing so is specifically signposted. This means that legally, outside the capital, you have the right to park on the pavement as long as doing so does not break any other driving
    laws. However, the code also states that vehicles must not be left where they cause any unnecessary obstruction of the road. Under this rule, police can penalise you if they deem your parking to be dangerous or in any way causing an obstruction of the
    road – even if legally you can park on the pavement.

    Anyone doing so can face a fixed penalty notice, which includes a fine and sometimes penalty points.

    https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2023-06-08/same-car-seized-for-appalling-parking-at-same-spot-twice-in-months

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 26 19:25:58 2023
    On 26/07/2023 06:33 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    A woman had to be cut free from a car by fire crews after the crash on the A41 near Newport, Shropshire at 1.15pm on Thursday. [report (link is external)]

    A car ended up on its roof on 30mph road after a collision on Belle Vue Road in Shrewsbury on Friday morning [report (link is external)]. A local resident I know was not at all surprised - far too much fast, dangerous, and inconsiderate driving on that
    road, he said.

    A driverless car went rogue in a "one-vehicle collision" in Parkway, Madeley, Telford shortly after 7am on Sunday morning when a car "left the roadway and came to rest on a concrete bollard and fence. Nobody was trapped inside". Isn't technology great.

    https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/Belle%20Vue%20crash%2030Jun23.jpg

    Was it one of the fire crew who was on the chav-bike?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 05:51:48 2023
    Dashcam footage captured the moment a speeding driver crashed a hired Lamborghini on a busy city road.

    Gull Khan, 32, was seen weaving in and out of traffic on Bourges Boulevard in Peterborough on 15 March 2022 at up to 75mph (120km/h) in a 40mph (64km/h) zone.

    Police said he hit the back of another car, causing it to lift into the air as it was pushed along the road and into the central reservation, leaving the other driver with facial injuries.

    Khan, of Silverwood Road, Peterborough, admitted dangerous driving and having no insurance and was given a 10-week suspended prison sentence at Peterborough Magistrates' Court on Friday.

    PC Pete Smith said: "Khan seemed determined to use the roads like a racetrack. He showed a complete disregard for the laws of the road and other people’s safety."

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 05:48:22 2023
    Whilst it would be great for more people to cycle or get the bus to the beach, for many, a car is pretty much an essential.

    It's not 'essential' to go to the beach unless it's part of your job. Genuinely deprived people probably can't afford a car in the first place!

    Using the term 'deprived people' is just like the whataboutery deployed against LTNs, pedestrianisation of town centres etc saying "what about disabled people" when they don't GAF about them. Do they really think that these Cornish car parks are full of
    20 year old Peugeot 307s and tired Skoda Fabias? There will be more 19- to 22-plate SUVs and Audis than anything else. Anti-social drivers have had it too easy and too cheap for far too long.

    Thanks to the repeated cuts every council has to find revenue somehow to pay for the services that everyone takes for granted - like the street cleaning, bin emptying and litter picking due to all the selfish c**ts that toss litter everywhere (like the
    sleeping bag with broken zip that I carried back from a beach walk on Anglesey the other week and the carrier bag full of bottles and cans collected the following morning on a short walk in Bangor.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 05:45:37 2023
    So what the lorry driver is saying is that in the 24 years since passing his test, he hasn't picked up a copy of the highway code? Because it's there in black and white (Rule 249).

    And if he thinks lorry drivers are "easy pickings", I would suggest law enforcement would have a much easier time enforcing Rule 248 - go to any residential street at night (excluding those where most houses have driveways) and you'll find a significant
    proportion of cars are parked illegally facing the wrong way. I daresay the majority of drivers are completely ignorant of that requirement.
    =============================================================================== A Westcountry lorry driver has hit out at a 'hidden' parking law which landed him in court.

    Paul Down, 60, from Tiverton, just over the Somerset border in Devon, pulled over to take a break after feeling a migraine coming on.

    But because he didn't have his lights switched on while he was pulled up in a layby, he ended up before a district judge at the magistrates court in Exeter, Devon Live reports.

    He was given a ticket for switching off his lights while he slept, which apparently breached the Road Traffic act 1988.

    At the time of the offence Paul, who has driven HGVs for 24 years, was among the lockdown drivers 'keeping the nation moving' by making vital deliveries during the first weeks of Covid.

    Paul says he has never been made aware that parking in a layby without lights illuminated was illegal. He says the law, passed in 1989, is out of date and does not take account of the number of reflective strips modern lorries have or the inevitable
    drain on the engine's battery.

    He says thousands of lorry drivers up and down the land unwittingly break the traffic law every day by not having their lights on when parked.

    He said: "In 24 years since passing my test I and other drivers have never been informed of this law and huge companies have never informed me or any transport manager either. You're told many important rules about lorry driving but I was never told
    about this one.

    "I can't get my head around it," he says. "I was off the road and no danger to anybody. I now know it is a law but you've only got to drive around and there are hundreds of lorries parked up with no lights on. I see some European lorry drivers parked on
    hard shoulders and farmers with tractors parking under bridges on the M25 with no lights on.

    "It's a crazy, stupid law. Back in the 1980s when a trailer had one measly light bulb at the back on each side it might have made sense. Today the manufacture of units and trailers is so much more advanced. There are reflective strips on the side and the
    back.

    "A lorry has 25 or 30 different lights on it. If I leave them on the battery won't sustain it and it will be flat in the morning.

    Paul did not speak to a police officer at the time as he as asleep in his cabin. He had no knowledge he was doing anything wrong and there were further delays caused by documents being sent to the wrong address. He chose to contest the case, in part so
    that he could hear what the charge was about, and ended up in court last week - more than two years after he parked up.

    The incident happened less than two weeks after the country went into Covid lockdown. At the time, lorries drivers were categorised as key workers, along with NHS staff and government officials, and there was much publicity about how vital it was to keep
    the country's transport network moving.

    Paul says lorry drivers are 'easy pickings' for over zealous law enforcement.

    Paul pleaded not guilty but was found guilty after a brief trial on June 2 prosecuted by North Yorkshire Police. He was discharged conditionally for six months, told to pay prosecution costs of £100 and a victim surcharge of £22.

    A spokesperson for North Devon Police said: “Road safety is high priority for North Yorkshire Police and we will take action when motorists break the law.”

    https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/lorry-drivers-fury-crazy-parking-8504266

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 27 13:05:37 2023
    QUOTE A spokesperson for North Devon Police said: “Road safety is high priority for North Yorkshire Police…” UNQUOTE

    North Yorkshire Police suddenly struck dumb?

    That’ll be a first…

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    So what the lorry driver is saying is that in the 24 years since passing
    his test, he hasn't picked up a copy of the highway code? Because it's
    there in black and white (Rule 249).

    And if he thinks lorry drivers are "easy pickings", I would suggest law enforcement would have a much easier time enforcing Rule 248 - go to any residential street at night (excluding those where most houses have driveways) and you'll find a significant proportion of cars are parked illegally facing the wrong way. I daresay the majority of drivers are completely ignorant of that requirement. ===============================================================================
    A Westcountry lorry driver has hit out at a 'hidden' parking law which landed him in court.

    Paul Down, 60, from Tiverton, just over the Somerset border in Devon,
    pulled over to take a break after feeling a migraine coming on.

    But because he didn't have his lights switched on while he was pulled up
    in a layby, he ended up before a district judge at the magistrates court
    in Exeter, Devon Live reports.

    He was given a ticket for switching off his lights while he slept, which apparently breached the Road Traffic act 1988.

    At the time of the offence Paul, who has driven HGVs for 24 years, was
    among the lockdown drivers 'keeping the nation moving' by making vital deliveries during the first weeks of Covid.

    Paul says he has never been made aware that parking in a layby without
    lights illuminated was illegal. He says the law, passed in 1989, is out
    of date and does not take account of the number of reflective strips
    modern lorries have or the inevitable drain on the engine's battery.

    He says thousands of lorry drivers up and down the land unwittingly break
    the traffic law every day by not having their lights on when parked.

    He said: "In 24 years since passing my test I and other drivers have
    never been informed of this law and huge companies have never informed me
    or any transport manager either. You're told many important rules about
    lorry driving but I was never told about this one.

    "I can't get my head around it," he says. "I was off the road and no
    danger to anybody. I now know it is a law but you've only got to drive
    around and there are hundreds of lorries parked up with no lights on. I
    see some European lorry drivers parked on hard shoulders and farmers with tractors parking under bridges on the M25 with no lights on.

    "It's a crazy, stupid law. Back in the 1980s when a trailer had one
    measly light bulb at the back on each side it might have made sense.
    Today the manufacture of units and trailers is so much more advanced.
    There are reflective strips on the side and the back.

    "A lorry has 25 or 30 different lights on it. If I leave them on the
    battery won't sustain it and it will be flat in the morning.

    Paul did not speak to a police officer at the time as he as asleep in his cabin. He had no knowledge he was doing anything wrong and there were
    further delays caused by documents being sent to the wrong address. He
    chose to contest the case, in part so that he could hear what the charge
    was about, and ended up in court last week - more than two years after he parked up.

    The incident happened less than two weeks after the country went into
    Covid lockdown. At the time, lorries drivers were categorised as key
    workers, along with NHS staff and government officials, and there was
    much publicity about how vital it was to keep the country's transport network moving.

    Paul says lorry drivers are 'easy pickings' for over zealous law enforcement.

    Paul pleaded not guilty but was found guilty after a brief trial on June
    2 prosecuted by North Yorkshire Police. He was discharged conditionally
    for six months, told to pay prosecution costs of £100 and a victim surcharge of £22.

    A spokesperson for North Devon Police said: “Road safety is high priority for North Yorkshire Police and we will take action when motorists break the law.”

    https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/lorry-drivers-fury-crazy-parking-8504266




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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 27 13:13:27 2023
    The most surprising thing about this report is that Peterborough has a Boulevard!!

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dashcam footage captured the moment a speeding driver crashed a hired Lamborghini on a busy city road.

    Gull Khan, 32, was seen weaving in and out of traffic on Bourges
    Boulevard in Peterborough on 15 March 2022 at up to 75mph (120km/h) in a 40mph (64km/h) zone.

    Police said he hit the back of another car, causing it to lift into the
    air as it was pushed along the road and into the central reservation,
    leaving the other driver with facial injuries.

    Khan, of Silverwood Road, Peterborough, admitted dangerous driving and
    having no insurance and was given a 10-week suspended prison sentence at Peterborough Magistrates' Court on Friday.

    PC Pete Smith said: "Khan seemed determined to use the roads like a racetrack. He showed a complete disregard for the laws of the road and
    other people’s safety."


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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 27 13:10:56 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Whilst it would be great for more people to cycle or get the bus to
    the beach, for many, a car is pretty much an essential.

    It's not 'essential' to go to the beach unless it's part of your job.

    Sounds like you’ve never had kids.

    Genuinely deprived people probably can't afford a car in the first place!

    And even the non-genuinely deprived too…

    Using the term 'deprived people' is just like the whataboutery deployed against LTNs, pedestrianisation of town centres etc saying "what about disabled people" when they don't GAF about them. Do they really think
    that these Cornish car parks are full of 20 year old Peugeot 307s and
    tired Skoda Fabias? There will be more 19- to 22-plate SUVs and Audis
    than anything else. Anti-social drivers have had it too easy and too
    cheap for far too long.

    The green eye is strong in this one…

    Thanks to the repeated cuts every council has to find revenue somehow to
    pay for the services that everyone takes for granted - like the street cleaning, bin emptying and litter picking due to all the selfish c**ts
    that toss litter everywhere (like the sleeping bag with broken zip that I carried back from a beach walk on Anglesey the other week and the carrier
    bag full of bottles and cans collected the following morning on a short walk in Bangor.

    You forgot to add bicyclists’ gel packs, for some reason.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 08:22:55 2023
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    Car enthusiasts face having their vehicles seized

    The operation also visited Tesco car park on Harbour Road, Seaton, after police had received complaints of anti-social driving

    I see the "let them have their fun" brigade are out in genteel east Devon.

    The Devon and Cornwall news is full of main road crashes too numerous to mention and and it's only the beginning of June.
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    Devon car enthusiasts face having their vehicles seized if they try and ‘show off at speed’ again. It follows a joint operation carried out in East Devon aimed at targeting rural crime and unroadworthy vehicles.

    Officers from the Rural East Devon Neighbourhood Team were in prominent locations in laybys on the A35 and the A3052, both high harm routes which have suffered many serious collisions and are subject to rural and cross border crime. The operation also
    visited Tesco car park on Harbour Road, Seaton, after police had received complaints of anti-social driving.

    Vehicles were stopped for either a routine inspection or after an offence was spotted by officers in unmarked police vehicles. And one ddriver decided to show off his sports car by taking off at speed down Royal Observer Way in Seaton, where he was met
    by officers who provided him with a vehicle examination and a warning under Section 59 Police Reform Act 2002.

    This means if he drives that vehicle or any other in the same manner during the next 12 months, it will be seized. A number of local car enthusiasts were also spoken with, had their vehicles examined and were provided with advice around acceptable
    driving behaviour.

    PC Craig Amarilli, Neighbourhood Beat Manager for the Seaton Police Team, said: “These operations are all about education, engagement and enforcement. The engagement with drivers and riders was fantastic and, as a result, we did not have a single
    incident of conflict over the weekend. These results highlight that Rural east Devon area requires constantly varied and functional policing which we will continue to display by repeating operations such as this in the future. We hope that local
    motorists and visitors to this part of Devon will drive carefully and stay safe.”

    The #NoExcuses campaign was developed to highlight some of the most unbelievable reasons given by drivers for committing one of the ‘fatal five’ offences by motorists travelling on the roads of Devon and Cornwall.

    As a result of the overall operation, eight drivers were reported to court for offences ranging from dangerous driving to having no MOT or not wearing a seatbelt. Three vehicles were prohibited by Driver & Vehicle Standards Agency until the drivers can
    take a further MOT test. Following further investigations five vehicles were searched under Section 23 of the Misuse of Drugs Act and one was searched under the Police & Criminal Evidence Act in order to locate stolen goods with ten people also searched
    under the same act.

    Another person was searched for items linked to an offence and police also witnessed a group of six bikers overtaking a lorry which caused the unmarked police vehicle to brake drastically to avoid a collision. Police spoke to the group about the manner
    of their driving. Another driver was also spotted using their mobile phone while a different motorist was reported for driving without insurance.

    Devon & Cornwall Police are part of the Vision Zero South West road safety partnership project which aims to stop serious and fatal road traffic collisions in the two counties.

    Natalie Warr, manager of the Vision Zero South West road safety partnership, added: “Through detailed analysis, these roads have been designated as high harm routes by our tactical tasking group and will be subject to increased safety and enforcement
    efforts.

    “In 2021, 47 people were killed and 647 seriously injured on Devon and Cornwall’s roads. Working together, we are determined to reduce the number of fatal and serious collisions by half by 2030.”

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 08:20:53 2023
    A shocking video shows a drunk woman driving the wrong way down the M5 before crashing head-on into another vehicle. Dorothy Denny, 65 and from Bredon, was driving a Mini Cooper on the southbound carriageway, north of junction 9 at Tewkesbury, while
    drunk on vodka at the time of the crash.

    The collision took place shortly after midnight on Wednesday, October 5 last year. Gloucestershire Police had received a number of 999 calls reporting a car driving the wrong way on the motorway shortly before it happened.

    The head-on collision took place near Strensham Services and involved Denny's Mini and a Vauxhall Astra. Two lorries were also hit and damaged in the crash, leaving debris across the motorway.

    The driver of the Astra, 30-year-old Carly Pope, suffered a broken arm in two places, whiplash, cuts, bruises and soft tissue damage. Meanwhile, a male passenger suffered whiplash and bruising.

    The drunk driver in the Mini, Dorothy Denny, sustained broken ribs. At the scene she provided a roadside screening breath test that was over three times the legal limit.

    In an interview, she said she had received some sad news that had caused her to drink. She admitted consuming alcohol before driving to the BP garage on Ashchurch Road in Tewkesbury to buy milk and more alcohol.

    After leaving the forecourt she said she turned left instead of right for her home address, then went around the roundabout in order to get back off at Ashchurch Road. But instead of getting off at that exit she accidentally took the prior left-hand turn,
    the M5 southbound off-slip, and then travelled up the motorway on the southbound side.

    Believing herself to be in lane one but actually in lane three, she carried on driving against the flow of traffic for over two miles before colliding head on with the Astra and striking both HGVs. In an interview, Denny said she had been in a distressed
    and confused state and when she realised what she had done couldn't find a gap to get across to the hard shoulder.

    Carly Pope, a person trainer from Bristol, said: “My arm was so badly snapped that I had to be given local anaesthetic in order for two grown men to pull and realign the bones before putting me in a plaster cast.

    “The rest of my superficial injuries healed in good time but my arm was excruciating for weeks while it was in the cast and it is still extremely painful. I was told that one of the bones healed longer than before the accident and one healed shorter,
    which means I will be permanently visibly disfigured and may never regain full range of motion (at least not without pain) ever again. I still have pain in my neck and shoulder from the jolt of the collision and all three areas are so stiff and
    uncomfortable, especially in the mornings.

    “Following the incident I have had breakdowns as a passenger on the motorway at night, I have vivid nightmares when I do manage to sleep and I don't feel as though I will ever be as confident a driver as I once was.
    Denny also smashed into a Vauxhall Astra (Image: Google Maps Street View)

    "I am now so detached from my job due to my reduced ability and confidence to teach, that I have been signed off by my doctor three times since the accident. It is now at the point where I may have to change my career entirely and that breaks my heart.

    “I am still having regular physio therapy and working on getting some strength back into my arm. However everything I do with it is painful, even typing is extremely difficult as I cannot pronate my wrist even half the amount of a normal person. I
    still may have to have surgery if I do not get the mobility back as I need both of my arms to be fully functional, my life literally depends on it.

    “I am a personal trainer, that is my job and I made it my job because the gym is the thing I love most in the world and what I am best at. So having this injury means not only that I have been unable to work since, but unable to participate in my
    primary hobby either. I say hobby but I am actually also a competitive athlete, having come first place in both a powerlifting competition and also a calisthenics competition last year. I had more competitions lined up which I had a good chance of
    winning too, but that was taken away from me.

    “Before the accident I have suffered with my mental health and the gym is what I used to cope with the things that go on in my head, so having that taken away from me meant that my mental health rapidly declined. I have been unable eat or sleep or
    maintain a normal routine at all because my entire life was destroyed by this accident. I have been referred to therapy for my suicidal thoughts as a result of feeling as though I had nothing to live for, I have been placed on anti-depressants and am
    also on a waiting list for PTSD specific therapy.

    “I am also severely struggling with the prospect now of having regressed so much in my overall physical fitness that it is going to take me months or even years to get back to the standard I was at, if at all.”

    Officer in the case, PC Stuart Dudfield, said: "When you see the collision and how close the drink driver came to then crashing head on with a lorry, it is a miracle no one died in this.

    "No one expects to see a car heading straight at them on the motorway and it must have been a terrifying few moments for Carly, her passenger and the other motorists who were forced to take evasive action.

    "The injuries experienced by Carly were severe, on top of the lasting trauma she has described.

    "In all my years' experience in roads policing this has got to be one of the starkest examples of what can happen when you drink drive or drive whilst impaired.

    “The defendant was compliant during my investigation and very remorseful, however that does not excuse the fact that she has made a conscious decision to drive her vehicle whilst intoxicated.

    "Anyone who thinks they can still drive under the influence of drink or drugs should watch this footage, read Carly’s words and think about the implications."

    On Friday, May 19, Denny was sentenced at Gloucester Crown Court for causing serious injury by dangerous driving and drink driving. She was given a 20-month suspended prison sentence, £10,000 fine and banned from driving for ten years.

    https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/shocking-footage-shows-moment-drunk-8501623

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 08:24:44 2023
    More than 50 Devon road users were caught speeding during just one hour. Cops took to the streets of Paignton following complaints by residents of speeding motorists – and caught plenty breaking the limit.

    In just one hour at rush hour on Wednesday, 53 motorists were caught exceeding the 40mph speed limit with one motorcycle doing a scarcely believable 75mph.

    There were also some ‘near misses’ as pedestrians were trying to cross the road. All of those caught speeding will now face prosecution.

    Devon and Cornwall Police’s Road Policing team tweeted: “Brixham Rd, Paignton (urban 40) Resident’s complaints of speeding followed up during rush hour today and 53 offences detected in one hour.

    “A motorcycle was captured at 75mph! & speeding vehicles were approaching pedestrian’s crossing, causing some near misses.”

    Adrian Leisk, Head of Road Safety at Devon & Cornwall Police, added: “All 53 will be prosecuted. Some will go to court and face potential disqualification. Every day Roads Policing officers are taking non-compliant vehicles off the road and making
    arrests for drink/drug driving. Work to do indeed, but we are trying hard.

    “Several hundred drivers will have seen this enforcement activity. They weren’t expecting to see us, but will now wonder if we are there next time they pass. We can be anywhere. This is how we help to change behaviour.”

    https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/devon-road-users-caught-paignton-8506116

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu Jul 27 17:24:25 2023
    On 27/07/2023 02:13 pm, Spike wrote:

    The most surprising thing about this report is that Peterborough has a Boulevard!!

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dashcam footage captured the moment a speeding driver crashed a hired
    Lamborghini on a busy city road.

    Gull Khan, 32, was seen weaving in and out of traffic on Bourges
    Boulevard in Peterborough on 15 March 2022 at up to 75mph (120km/h) in a
    40mph (64km/h) zone.

    Police said he hit the back of another car, causing it to lift into the
    air as it was pushed along the road and into the central reservation,
    leaving the other driver with facial injuries.

    Khan, of Silverwood Road, Peterborough, admitted dangerous driving and
    having no insurance and was given a 10-week suspended prison sentence at
    Peterborough Magistrates' Court on Friday.

    PC Pete Smith said: "Khan seemed determined to use the roads like a
    racetrack. He showed a complete disregard for the laws of the road and
    other people’s safety."

    A fair bit of Peterborough is new-build Milton-Keynesia.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu Jul 27 17:23:46 2023
    On 27/07/2023 02:10 pm, Spike wrote:

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Whilst it would be great for more people to cycle or get the bus to
    the beach, for many, a car is pretty much an essential.

    It's not 'essential' to go to the beach unless it's part of your job.

    Sounds like you’ve never had kids.

    He's never mentioned any. And after the Gatso FPN incident...

    Genuinely deprived people probably can't afford a car in the first place!

    And even the non-genuinely deprived too…

    Using the term 'deprived people' is just like the whataboutery deployed
    against LTNs, pedestrianisation of town centres etc saying "what about
    disabled people" when they don't GAF about them. Do they really think
    that these Cornish car parks are full of 20 year old Peugeot 307s and
    tired Skoda Fabias? There will be more 19- to 22-plate SUVs and Audis
    than anything else. Anti-social drivers have had it too easy and too
    cheap for far too long.

    The green eye is strong in this one…

    Thanks to the repeated cuts every council has to find revenue somehow to
    pay for the services that everyone takes for granted - like the street
    cleaning, bin emptying and litter picking due to all the selfish c**ts
    that toss litter everywhere (like the sleeping bag with broken zip that I
    carried back from a beach walk on Anglesey the other week and the carrier
    bag full of bottles and cans collected the following morning on a short walk in Bangor.

    You forgot to add bicyclists’ gel packs, for some reason.

    And the other things they leave on village greens.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 09:34:17 2023
    Hirsute wrote:

    Two black SUV drivers who saw the No Entry signs at Dunquin saying 'Route for Pedestrians & Sheep only' & decided it didn't apply to them, one burnt out their clutch trying to reverse up before getting rescued by tractor

    Bloody sheep, why should they have their own expensive road, bet those flocks don't even have to pass a droving test...

    Chapeau to the tractor driver there though; that looks like a tow-er de force.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 27 16:36:23 2023
    And what is Adrian Leisk, Head of Road Safety at Devon & Cornwall Police,
    doing about errant cyclists?

    (…silence reigned…)

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    More than 50 Devon road users were caught speeding during just one hour.
    Cops took to the streets of Paignton following complaints by residents of speeding motorists – and caught plenty breaking the limit.

    […]

    https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/devon-road-users-caught-paignton-8506116


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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 09:38:03 2023
    Edinburgh bus repeatedly rammed by motorist in bizarre video

    Well, the bus wasn't wearing hi-viz or a helmet, nor was it using the bus lane that the car, all on its own, had paid millions to build.
    ==================================
    Bizarre footage shows the moment a driver rams repeatedly into the rear of a stationary bus in Edinburgh.

    The video, first reported by Edinburgh Live, shows the blue Dacia Sandero Stepway repeatedly driving into the double decker – even reversing to take a run-up. Passengers can be seen jolting from the impacts as the car is driven into the rear of the bus
    14 times in the space of a minute.

    Passing motorists and pedestrians can only watch on in confusion as the man continues driving backwards and forwards, continually crashing into the larger vehicle.

    The clip has been circulated on social media since, garnering similarly confused reactions from social media. The incident itself is believed to have occurred on Tuesday May 23 on Portobello Road, in the Meadowbank area of Edinburgh.

    Writing on social media, one person commented: "What on earth, why?" Another joked: "At least put a bit of effort into it, going to take a lot more than that to push a decker."

    One local said: "The sooner cars are banned from the city centre the better." While a further resident added: "What the actual heck. Never seen anything so mental."

    Another joked: "Very public spirited in trying to push start the bus with a flat battery."

    A Lothian Buses spokesperson said: “We are aware of an incident involving one of our vehicles and are assisting Police Scotland with their enquiries.”

    A Police Scotland spokesperson said: "A 58-year-old man was arrested and charged following a road traffic incident which happened around 9.10 pm on Wednesday, 24 May, 2023 in the Jocks Lodge area of Edinburgh. The incident involved a bus and a blue Dacia
    car. He was traced at the time. A report will be sent to PF."

    https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article30103826.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/2_edibus.jpg

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 27 16:32:02 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Devon and Cornwall news is full of main road crashes too numerous to mention and and it's only the beginning of June.

    Beginning of June? It’s actually the last week of July.

    The population of Devon and Cornwall is about 1.8m.

    Summertime visitors add another million.

    Expect more accidents on overcrowded underfunded roads…🙄


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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 10:34:52 2023
    A man from Kingsbridge has received two speeding fines - in a matter of two minutes. George Peck is now warning other drivers to "keep their speed in check" when travelling down the A379 into Plymouth.

    Mr Peck, 70, had two summons delivered to his house for a speeding offence which he does not dispute, but says he feels having two for what he deems is the same offence is a "waste of the courts time". While travelling down the road in his Audi 25, Mr
    Peck said that he had not realised that the speed limit had been changed from 40mph to 30mph down the hill on the A379 towards Billacombe roundabout.

    The first of Mr Peck's summons was for breaking the speed limit at 2.42pm on August 6, 2022, and the second was for the same offence two minutes later at 2.44pm. The first clocked Mr Peck driving at 36mph while the second caught him travelling 37mph.

    Police revealed this is due to the average camera locations using two systems in the same stretch of road which are linked together but still deemed separate locations - thus one journey along the road can see drivers 'caught' twice.

    A police spokesperson from the Devon and Cornwall Police's Road Safety Team said that as there is a roundabout between the systems and you can and will get recorded and reported for speeding on both average speed systems, if you exceed the speed limit
    from Elburton to the roundabout and then again from the roundabout down to the supermarket roundabout. "Two systems means two speeding offences," they said.

    Mr Peck explained the first summons describes the offence being caught by a static camera while the second describes it as maintaining an average speed between the Billacombe roundabout and the Saltram roundabout that exceeded 30mph.

    Retracing his steps, Mr Peck notes there is only a single 30mph reminder between these roundabouts which is positioned some way beyond the first by which time the average speed camera will have already recorded a majority speed.

    Mr Peck, who is retired and has been driving over 50 years, was offered a speed awareness course for the first of the two summons as it was his first speeding offence but for the second, just minutes later, he was given three points and a fixed penalty
    of £100 due to it then being a repeated offence..

    Mr Peck explained: "I couldn't believe they wouldn't agree that it was one offence, two minutes apart, surely they would understand that that was the same offence, just two minutes later. I understood that having exceeded the speed limit once I was due
    for a summons but I couldn't believe I was due for two. It seemed to me the system was wrong if that was happening. If somebody gets caught by one, they're almost certainly going to get caught by the other."

    Mr Peck continued: "I thought this must be happening to other people as well. I thought well these cameras are automatic so I can't be the only person this has happened to because if you misread the speed limit, which I did, I wasn't deliberately going
    faster than I should have done, I just thought it was a 40mph limit. I'm not going to change two minutes later unless there's a sign to say 30mph."

    Mr Peck explained that the road safety team made the point that they were technically two different roads - Elburton Road and Billacombe Road - hence the two offences, but Mr Peck disputes this as in both his summons letters, the road is just written as
    the A379 with the two roads being separated only by a small roundabout. Mr Peck suggests that they should either have multiple static speed camera or one set of average speed cameras on the road rather than both as "that will just cause problems".

    He added: "I just think it's a great pity when we're suppose to, and want to, support the police and their efforts, they can't show a little bit of common sense when dealing with what is a relatively minor offence. I can't believe it does anything except
    rub people's backs up the wrong way."

    A spokesperson for the Devon and Cornwall Police's Road Safety Team added: "Average speed systems are an excellent road safety tool, with around 96 percent compliance. That means a reduced level of speed, lower speed gives more time to react, more time
    to react means less collisions and if there are collisions the reduced speed means less energy going into the collision which means less injuries as a consequence.

    "The Devon and Cornwall Police Road Safety Team has recently more than doubled the number of speed detection officers, with additional vans and motorbikes to reach more difficult to enforce areas. They have also doubled the number of staff on the
    Operation Snap Team processing members of the public’s dash cam submissions. The police roads policing team has also doubled the number of No Excuse specialist traffic officers and increased the number of roads policing officers.

    "The Police have also strengthened Community Speed Watch (CSW), with Speed Detection Officers now working with CSW volunteers in locations where there continues to be higher non compliance with the speed limit.

    "All of this is working towards the Police’s ambition of making Devon and Cornwall an uncomfortable place for drivers who commit offences contrary to the Fatal Five or other road traffic offences that put other road users at risk. The police should not
    apologise for the prosecution of drivers who exceed the speed limit."

    Devon and Cornwall Police also added any road user who receives a fine is given information in relation to the alleged offence. A spokesperson said: “All road users who receive a fine are given all the information that they need in relation to the
    alleged offence, including routes to find further information and if necessary, how to appeal.

    “Offences against the Road Traffic Act could still result in a court hearing if the road user chooses to appeal. Therefore Devon and Cornwall Police are not able to comment on individual cases as to not to interfere with any possible future hearings or
    appeal.”

    https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/man-receives-two-speeding-tickets-7631249

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 12:12:58 2023
    A Lancashire woman who visited Bath over the summer has spoken out against its "hostile and confusing" Clean Air Zone.

    Lyndsey Simpson travelled to the city with her husband and six teenagers, whom they were taking to a summer camp in Somerset. Living near Bolton, Mrs Simpson understood the clean air zone concept but thought the same regulations applied to all of them.

    She later discovered that the family van - a nine-seater Volkswagen Transporter - was eligible for a £9 daily charge within the Bath zone. Only when a fine of £120 landed on her doormat did she realise her mistake.

    Lyndsey said: "I was not ready for the hostile and confusing nature of the Bath Clean Air Zone. The signs are so unfriendly, yet there's nothing to alert you to the fact that Bolton's rules might differ.

    "Back home, our van is not eligible for charges, but in Bath, it is - isn't that a bit weird? The ironic thing is, we didn't even need to go into Bath but I thought I would be eco-friendly and leave my car there, with a friend."

    Mrs Simpson and her husband were both helping out at the summer camp near Yeovil but travelled down separately due to the amount of luggage they required and their different responsibilities at the camp. They were moving on to Cornwall afterwards, for a
    family holiday, and decided to leave Lyndsey's car with a friend in Bath.

    "She lives on Old Fosse Road and we tried to skirt the centre to get there because of the traffic. The next thing, we got a fine in the post for £120. It was reduced to £60 if you paid it quickly, plus the £9 you owed for travelling through the zone,"
    Lyndsey explained.

    The Lancashire woman said that receiving the fine had put her off returning to Bath. "The whole thing makes me a little bit sad. I want to visit somewhere I’m welcome," she said.

    Lyndsey is not the only recent visitor to take this stance. A Welsh man who came to Bath on holiday also said he will not return to the city after being fined over £200. Paul Woollard, a carpenter from Swansea, stayed at a cottage in Nimlet last April.

    He said that he was completely "oblivious" to the zone, as no information about it was provided at his holiday cottage and he had not been to Bath for several years. He drives a Vauxhall Vivaro van, which was eligible for the £9 daily charge.

    Mr Woollard and his family entered the Clean Air Zone three times during their stay in Nimlet - twice on London Road and once on Warminster Road. The carpenter said that, on each occasion, he had not seen the signs marking the edge of the zone.

    "It appears that we entered the zone on Sunday the 17th, Monday the 18th and Thursday the 21st, of April. I was pretty annoyed because, if I had known, I would have paid the £9 there and then.

    In fact, I would have paid the £9 fee for every day we were there, just so we didn't have to worry about whether we were in the zone or not. I think the signs are not obvious enough. They should have it written on the road surface - the way they do in
    London," he said.

    Bath Live contacted Bath and North East Somerset Council for comment regarding Lyndsey Simpson's experience. Sarah Warren, deputy leader and cabinet member for Climate and Sustainable Travel, said: “The plans for the Clean Air Zone were developed over
    several years and were subject to two public consultations and scrutiny both at a local and national level.

    "As a result, the signage is in line with Department for Transport requirements and clearly states it is a Class C CAZ as motorists approach the zone. The purpose of the CAZ is to reduce levels of nitrogen dioxide in the city for the benefit of public
    health, including that of visitors to the city.

    "Clean Air Zones across the UK range from Class A-D and Bristol will be launching their Class D CAZ at the end of November. As such, the council urges motorists to check if charges apply to their vehicle when travelling as charges and exemptions vary
    from city to city.

    "The council has worked closely with tourist and events organisations to encourage visitors planning a trip to Bath to check their vehicle using the government’s vehicle checker. It has also run several advertising campaigns on social media targeted at
    people planning to visit or having recently visited Bath with a focus on raising awareness of the CAZ among tourists and visitors. More information on Bath’s CAZ can be found here."

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 12:10:11 2023
    PRSboy | 1387 posts | 9 months ago
    9 likes

    Not a news story, but on-topic... In conversation a while ago, a friend told me they were annoyed because they'd been 'done' by a speed camera van parked about 50 yards from our house. Which is on a 30 limit village road, just along from a school
    entrance.

    I didn't quite know what to say, so I ran with "Good!".

    They seemed genuinely confused as to why I thought that...

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Jul 27 20:45:14 2023
    On 27/07/2023 08:10 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    Not a news story, but on-topic... In conversation a while ago, a friend told me they were annoyed because they'd been 'done' by a speed camera van parked about 50 yards from our house. Which is on a 30 limit village road, just along from a school
    entrance.

    I didn't quite know what to say, so I ran with "Good!".

    That was no "friend".

    That was your wife!

    They seemed genuinely confused as to why I thought that...

    I bet you're the one who was "confused" when she'd finished with you.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 12:48:29 2023
    Sriracha replied to David9694 | 3965 posts | 9 months ago
    3 likes

    So once again we have the appeal to incompetence being advanced as a defence:

    I wasn't so much speeding as simply unaware of the limit altogether.

    Gets me every time!

    So he fully deserves two penalties - one for breaking the speed limit, one for driving without due care and attention.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 12:51:34 2023
    The interesting part about that is why 58 offences were racked up. It was stopped elsewhere for having no insurance, but implicit in that was the registration did not tie up to an address and they needed the information from another force to identify the
    driver. They then sent 58 notices all at once.

    Clearly a deliberate attempt to drive outside the law. They must have known they were setting off speed cameras and not getting tickets so they believed their ploy was working.

    I can't see that ban being abided by given that no other aspect of vehicle law was abided by. Watch this space.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 14:06:49 2023
    A TikTok user has shamed their neighbour who blocked in her car for 13 HOURS. Stacey Campbell says her neighbour wants to park directly outside his house.

    She shared a viral clip showing his black Mercedes parked right up to the kerb in front of his house. Stacey branded him "inconsiderate" - because he keeps blocking her in.

    She wrote: "The joys of Sunday morning parking issues. "How inconsiderate are some people." Stacey added: "I asked the main to move his car as he was blocking in my car and had been for over 13 hours and he wouldn't."

    Her daughter "missed a play date", she added. The TikTok user added to her followers: "Do people not realise you own a house...not the road."

    In response, as the clip went viral, one wrote: "Just get a mate to drag away in the night." And a second chimed in with: "Someone I know had this issue, he welded massive steel bumpers onto the front and rear and pushed anyone out the way."

    "Buy a skip and have it placed in his space," another asked her. And a fourth wrote: "I'll fully park outside and not move the car for a week."

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mum-rages-neighbour-blocks-13-25238816

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 27 20:53:52 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    A man from Kingsbridge has received two speeding fines - in a matter of
    two minutes. George Peck is now warning other drivers to "keep their
    speed in check" when travelling down the A379 into Plymouth.

    The first of Mr Peck's summons was for breaking the speed limit at 2.42pm
    on August 6, 2022, and the second was for the same offence two minutes
    later at 2.44pm. The first clocked Mr Peck driving at 36mph while the
    second caught him travelling 37mph.

    https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/man-receives-two-speeding-tickets-7631249

    So, in actualité, there was only one speeding offence, not two.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 14:08:33 2023
    A Tesco shopper has been left raging after crashing into a new trolley bay. The consumer says they are so short he couldn't even see them.

    Paul Gadd, 49, has said his local trolley bay is "badly designed" after it left his car damaged. He hit the barrier bay at the store in Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire.

    But he said the supermarket assumed his car had been hit by a loose trolley and received a 'confused' and 'childish' response.

    Paul says he heard an 'almighty crunch' when his Citroen C4 hit the metal guard. He claims that the company has not accepted it was at fault.

    He told YorkshireLive : "I have been trying to get them to fix it. They would not accept liability. They were making excuses when I was trying to explain to them."

    In June, Tesco appeared confused when they sent Paul a letter that said: "We are sorry to hear that your vehicle was damaged during an incident with a trolley."

    The letter said it could not take responsibility for "the wind catching an abandoned trolley" or if customers left them in an unsafe place. It said: "Unfortunately, this means that we cannot offer to pay for any damage on this occasion."

    In a reply in August, Tesco said: "Thank you for the images, we have investigated this and this is still a rejection due to the trolley bay being a fixed object in the designated area clear and visible with hazard tape on the barriers." A Tesco
    spokesperson said: “The safety of our customers and colleagues is our number one priority and we are confident that the parking facilities at our Cleckheaton Superstore are safe and easy to use.”

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/tesco-shopper-raging-after-crashing-25193564

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 03:51:16 2023
    IanMSpencer replied to ShutTheFrontDawes | 1862 posts | 9 months ago
    2 likes

    I had a limiter on a 1999 Mercedes, and that could only use engine braking to hold the speed. On my 2012 they integrated it with the ABS/stability control system and now it will apply brakes to hold the speed. When approaching a speed limit it is easy to
    gently knock it down in 5s or 1s to hit the new limit bang on the line - which of course pisses off drivers behind who think that you have a few hundred meters of allowance so you shouldn't start braking until some point after the limit sign (but before
    any obvious speed cameras of course)

    MUST STARE AT THE SPEEDO ALL THE TIME.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Jul 28 10:55:42 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    IanMSpencer replied to ShutTheFrontDawes | 1862 posts | 9 months ago
    2 likes

    I had a limiter on a 1999 Mercedes, and that could only use engine
    braking to hold the speed. On my 2012 they integrated it with the ABS/stability control system and now it will apply brakes to hold the
    speed. When approaching a speed limit it is easy to gently knock it down
    in 5s or 1s to hit the new limit bang on the line - which of course
    pisses off drivers behind who think that you have a few hundred meters of allowance so you shouldn't start braking until some point after the limit sign (but before any obvious speed cameras of course)

    MUST STARE AT THE SPEEDO ALL THE TIME.

    If you think that’s a bad thing, campaign for the removal of speed limits.
    Or speedos.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 06:18:29 2023
    A plan that would see people's car registrations printed on food packaging from McDonald's is being considered in a bid to deter littering. The idea would see the details put on bags given to customers who use drive-thrus.

    A council chief in Wales confirmed that the idea was being considered there. Chris Howell, who is head of waste, parks and cleansing at Swansea Council, said it had merit.

    However, he also said there were drawbacks to the idea in terms of data privacy, reports WalesOnline. Mr Howell also said there was an issue about which fast-food companies would "go first" with such an initiative.

    Mr Howell told a climate change corporate delivery committee meeting: "The Welsh Government has explored with McDonald's, or their franchises, whether or not they could print number plates of cars collecting takeaways from their drive throughs with a
    view that that would discourage people from discarding their materials (litter)."

    He added: "If McDonald's do it, then people will just go to Burger King instead of McDonald's, because nobody wants to have their private details printed on that packaging. I think it's a really good idea, but at the minute it's fraught with some
    difficulties."

    Two years ago, Welsh political party Plaid Cymru launched a petition calling on fast-food companies to print number plates on drive through packaging after an increase in litter as people headed to outlets after the first coronavirus lockdown. The Welsh
    Government said littering was not acceptable and that it was working on a new prevention plan with businesses and councils.

    Meanwhile, Mr Howell said Swansea was forecast to recycle 70% of waste from householders and 1,500 commercial customers the council collects from this financial year, which would hit a Wales-wide target two years ahead of schedule if achieved. A decade
    ago the figure was just under 48%.

    Mr Howell said the efforts of householders and businesses in Swansea had been "fantastic". The recycling rate of commercial customers, though, is currently just under 58%, which brings down the overall recycling rate.

    A report before the committee said recycling targets could be hit without altering the current fortnightly collection of black bin bags, but that this could change if more stringent targets were introduced. In Carmarthenshire, black bin bags will be
    collected every three weeks from next January.

    In answer to questions from councillors, Mr Howell said Swansea Council was always looking to increase the type of materials it collected from the kerbside, but that technology and markets to deal with these materials had to be in place. Soft, flexible
    plastics and potentially textiles were, he said, "priority" materials for the council to consider picking up. He said supermarkets were keen for councils to offer a kerbside service for soft plastics, but that the market for processing them was "very
    much in its infancy".

    Swansea Council's waste service costs just over £19 million per year, but it claws back nearly £7 million via income from commercial contracts and the sale of recyclable materials. Mr Howell said the authority's fleet of refuse lorries would need to be
    renewed shortly, and that consideration would be given to the next fleet having three compartments instead of two to accommodate an extra type of waste material.

    He said some refuse vehicles in Wales had several compartments, and that there were pros and cons to this. "The system (we have) works perfectly well for us - I would not want to fix what's not broken, but obviously times continue to move on," he said.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 06:21:21 2023
    West Midlands Ambulance Service has said moving its hub away from the Meole Brace area, where thousands of children attend local schools, is something it is working on.

    But now Radbrook councillor Julia Evans has submitted a motion calling on Shropshire Council to work towards a solution as quickly as possible.

    Several schoolchildren have been hit by cars in the area. Two mums launched a campaign group after one boy was hit by a car and another was involved in a frightening near miss.

    Although the ambulance service has no recorded incidents of its vehicles being involved in a collision with a pedestrian in three years, parents are concerned about the traffic chaos caused by cars having to mount pavements to let paramedics drive
    through on blue lights and sirens. More recently, a man had to be cut free after a crash in Bank Farm Road.

    In her motion, Councillor Evans calls on the council to urge portfolio holders to work towards a new ambulance hub site as quickly as possible, in order to facilitate much-needed road safety improvements in residential areas, investigate offering
    alternatives within the councils assets, in particular at Weeping Cross, and assist a teaching programme between schools and the ambulance service.

    She also calls on the authority to assist WMAS with public information on how to drive and pull over when blue lights are seen and negotiate with them about incorporating a local Shropshire Ambulance Control within the new hub

    At a Radbrook Road Safety Group meeting on November 25, a WMAS boss said that moving the hub was the organisation's "number one" estates priority.

    Craig Cooke, the WMAS operational support services director, said: "The project is my next priority, my number one priority. There is no estates priority in front of this one. It has a lease life. We are serious about replacing this one."

    Mr Cooke revealed that the hub is busier than it would normally be because of increasing pressures on the service.

    "Every crew that books on has an emergency waiting for them," he said.

    If pressures weren't so acute, ambulances would be out and about in the community instead. Chiefs hope that a bigger hub would be better for the Shrewsbury area where a rising population is increasing demands.

    Councillor Evans' motion will be discussed at a full council meeting on Thursday this week. To view the meeting, which starts at 10am, visit bit.ly/3FhuoiU and click on the agenda front sheet to access the video link.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Jul 28 14:41:54 2023
    On 27/07/2023 10:06 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    A TikTok user has shamed their neighbour who blocked in her car for 13 HOURS. Stacey Campbell says her neighbour wants to park directly outside his house.

    She shared a viral clip showing his black Mercedes parked right up to the kerb in front of his house. Stacey branded him "inconsiderate" - because he keeps blocking her in.

    She wrote: "The joys of Sunday morning parking issues. "How inconsiderate are some people." Stacey added: "I asked the main to move his car as he was blocking in my car and had been for over 13 hours and he wouldn't."

    Her daughter "missed a play date", she added. The TikTok user added to her followers: "Do people not realise you own a house...not the road."

    In response, as the clip went viral, one wrote: "Just get a mate to drag away in the night." And a second chimed in with: "Someone I know had this issue, he welded massive steel bumpers onto the front and rear and pushed anyone out the way."

    "Buy a skip and have it placed in his space," another asked her. And a fourth wrote: "I'll fully park outside and not move the car for a week."

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mum-rages-neighbour-blocks-13-25238816

    Which one was a chav on a chav-bike?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Jul 28 14:44:13 2023
    On 28/07/2023 02:18 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    A plan that would see people's car registrations printed on food packaging from McDonald's is being considered in a bid to deter littering. The idea would see the details put on bags given to customers who use drive-thrus.

    [ ... ]

    A chav on a *fairy-cycle* complaining about littering!

    You couldn't make it up.

    Well, not unless you have some idea of May Sun and his form (as well as
    that of chavs on chav-bikes generally - village greens, anyone?).

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 08:13:49 2023
    When you mix a pedestrianisation with a string of iffy car parks, relief road with iffy underpasses and the local river, you can end up cutting your town centre off from its surrounds. But if your business is offering something special or worthwhile,
    people will find it.

    They can be a strange lot, shopkeepers, they seem to associate people driving past in their cars with actual trade.

    :-)

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Jul 28 22:23:53 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    When you mix a pedestrianisation with a string of iffy car parks, relief
    road with iffy underpasses and the local river, you can end up cutting
    your town centre off from its surrounds. But if your business is
    offering something special or worthwhile, people will find it.

    They can be a strange lot, shopkeepers, they seem to associate people
    driving past in their cars with actual trade.

    :-)

    That sounds as if it was written by someone who has never even ran a whelk stall.

    --
    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Sat Jul 29 00:30:20 2023
    On 28/07/2023 11:23 pm, Spike wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    When you mix a pedestrianisation with a string of iffy car parks, relief
    road with iffy underpasses and the local river, you can end up cutting
    your town centre off from its surrounds. But if your business is
    offering something special or worthwhile, people will find it.

    They can be a strange lot, shopkeepers, they seem to associate people
    driving past in their cars with actual trade.

    :-)

    That sounds as if it was written by someone who has never even ran a whelk stall.

    Spot on.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 29 01:15:10 2023
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 2:18:31 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    A plan that would see people's car registrations printed on food packaging from McDonald's is being considered in a bid to deter littering. The idea would see the details put on bags given to customers who use drive-thrus.

    but you could easily tear the reg part off, and still dump the bag or its contents so it doesnt solve the problem, equally alot of the road detritus we see, and Im not denying people do still chuck stuff and dont care, but actually comes out the back
    of rubbish trucks, as they just chuck the rubbish in the back and rarely if ever secure/close the hatch part, it might compact it a bit, but most of its still left loose right, and when the truck gets up to a certain speed there is a negative pressure
    effect that actually then sucks some of the trash back out.

    I only know this because I happened to be following one once that was merrily dumping McDs type stuff and other loose items roadside as it hacked along a road.

    That doesn't explain the copious quantities of cans/bottles/fast food containers that can be found at the traffic lights at the end of motorway off-ramps.
    I can honestly say that I've never seen a refuse truck on a motorway.

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