• Extend green man crossing times to make cities friendlier for older peo

    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 24 09:21:49 2023
    Whether it is crossing the road before the green man disappears, finding a spot to pause for breath, or identifying a landmark by which to navigate, getting out and about can be a challenge – particularly for older people or those with health problems.

    Now experts say a slew of measures could help to make towns and cities more friendly for the modern population, whose lives have become longer and waistlines larger.

    Among the proposed changes is an increase in the time given to people to cross the road.

    An Active Travel England (ATE) spokesperson said: “We want to enable millions more people to travel by walking, wheeling and cycling for short trips. A big part of that is being able to make sure crossing times are inclusive so that they give enough
    time for everyone to cross the road.”

    According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT), the assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from 1.2 metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% – where there is a large number of slower
    pedestrians, for example. Few councils, however, have adopted the change.

    The shift is expected to be incorporated into guidance from ATE and linked to council funding.

    While ATE said the guidance was still being finalised, it said changes to crossing times could be particularly beneficial for older people.

    A study published in 2012 by researchers at University College London found that among people aged 65 or older, 76% of men and 85% of women had a walking speed below the 1.2 metres per second needed to use a pedestrian crossing.

    “Crossing times can be a challenge, particularly for elderly and disabled people, and a bad experience is enough to put someone off doing it,” the ATE spokesperson said.

    Stephen Edwards, the chief executive of the charity Living Streets, said the shift to a lower assumed walking speed would be welcome, noting the current value was calculated in the 1950s and had not changed since.

    “People walking and wheeling shouldn’t have to race to get to safety. These updated guidelines are a step in the right direction,” he said.

    The charity, which runs a number of campaigns to improve accessibility, is also calling for pedestrian crossings to stop the traffic more quickly, noting people were more likely to take risks when crossing roads if the delay was more than 30 seconds.

    Better walkways also matter, it notes, with the charity’s research showing 31% of over 65s are prevented from walking on their local streets because of cracked pavements. Meanwhile, clutter-free pavements – cleared of badly parked scooters, wheelie
    bins and poorly placed signage – would improve safety by removing obstacles.

    Edwards said more public toilets and places to pause when walking would be another positive outcome.

    “Places to rest are incredibly important for people who can’t walk long distances, including older people, those with chronic conditions or families with young children,” he said.

    “We want people to walk more of their everyday journeys to improve health and reduce congestion, however, if people don’t have places to stop and rest or access to public bathrooms, they simply won’t make the journey or will be forced into using
    less sustainable and less active ways to get around.”

    Caroline Abrahams, charity director at Age UK, also stressed the importance of such features for older people, adding good local amenities and public spaces also mattered. “Living a long fulfilling life is something we pretty much all aspire to, but
    one of the most important factors in helping us to live well for longer is our local environment,” she said.

    With the number of people with dementia in the UK expected to rise from almost 900,000 in 2021 to 1.6 million in 2040, experts have also flagged adaptations that could help those with such conditions. These include legible streets signs, streets laid out
    in an irregular grid pattern, uncomplicated junctions, and distinctive features placed at decision points such as junctions.

    But experts say it is not only elderly people, or those with dementia, who should be kept in mind.

    Dr Rachel Colls at Durham University noted that there were also actions that could be taken to make urban spaces size-inclusive, such as making seating larger, that would also be beneficial for public transport. In this context having seats with movable
    arms, expandable seat belts and the capacity to book two seats if required would make these spaces more accessible, she said.

    But, Colls added, it was not just the built environment that needed to change, but also the social one.

    “Being a fat person in public space is difficult because attitudes towards fat people are so hostile,” she said. “That is what makes urban public spaces inaccessible: the fear of being judged, called names and being discriminated against.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/24/extend-green-man-crossing-times-cities-older-people

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 24 17:49:10 2023
    On 24/07/2023 05:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    Whether it is crossing the road before the green man disappears, finding a spot to pause for breath, or identifying a landmark by which to navigate, getting out and about can be a challenge – particularly for older people or those with health
    problems.

    Now experts say a slew of measures could help to make towns and cities more friendly for the modern population, whose lives have become longer and waistlines larger.

    Among the proposed changes is an increase in the time given to people to cross the road.

    An Active Travel England (ATE) spokesperson said: “We want to enable millions more people to travel by walking, wheeling and cycling for short trips. A big part of that is being able to make sure crossing times are inclusive so that they give enough
    time for everyone to cross the road.”

    According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT), the assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from 1.2 metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% – where there is a large number of slower
    pedestrians, for example. Few councils, however, have adopted the change.

    The shift is expected to be incorporated into guidance from ATE and linked to council funding.

    While ATE said the guidance was still being finalised, it said changes to crossing times could be particularly beneficial for older people.

    A study published in 2012 by researchers at University College London found that among people aged 65 or older, 76% of men and 85% of women had a walking speed below the 1.2 metres per second needed to use a pedestrian crossing.

    “Crossing times can be a challenge, particularly for elderly and disabled people, and a bad experience is enough to put someone off doing it,” the ATE spokesperson said.

    Stephen Edwards, the chief executive of the charity Living Streets, said the shift to a lower assumed walking speed would be welcome, noting the current value was calculated in the 1950s and had not changed since.

    “People walking and wheeling shouldn’t have to race to get to safety. These updated guidelines are a step in the right direction,” he said.

    The charity, which runs a number of campaigns to improve accessibility, is also calling for pedestrian crossings to stop the traffic more quickly, noting people were more likely to take risks when crossing roads if the delay was more than 30 seconds.

    Better walkways also matter, it notes, with the charity’s research showing 31% of over 65s are prevented from walking on their local streets because of cracked pavements. Meanwhile, clutter-free pavements – cleared of badly parked scooters, wheelie
    bins and poorly placed signage – would improve safety by removing obstacles.

    Edwards said more public toilets and places to pause when walking would be another positive outcome.

    “Places to rest are incredibly important for people who can’t walk long distances, including older people, those with chronic conditions or families with young children,” he said.

    “We want people to walk more of their everyday journeys to improve health and reduce congestion, however, if people don’t have places to stop and rest or access to public bathrooms, they simply won’t make the journey or will be forced into using
    less sustainable and less active ways to get around.”

    Caroline Abrahams, charity director at Age UK, also stressed the importance of such features for older people, adding good local amenities and public spaces also mattered. “Living a long fulfilling life is something we pretty much all aspire to, but
    one of the most important factors in helping us to live well for longer is our local environment,” she said.

    With the number of people with dementia in the UK expected to rise from almost 900,000 in 2021 to 1.6 million in 2040, experts have also flagged adaptations that could help those with such conditions. These include legible streets signs, streets laid
    out in an irregular grid pattern, uncomplicated junctions, and distinctive features placed at decision points such as junctions.

    But experts say it is not only elderly people, or those with dementia, who should be kept in mind.

    Dr Rachel Colls at Durham University noted that there were also actions that could be taken to make urban spaces size-inclusive, such as making seating larger, that would also be beneficial for public transport. In this context having seats with
    movable arms, expandable seat belts and the capacity to book two seats if required would make these spaces more accessible, she said.

    But, Colls added, it was not just the built environment that needed to change, but also the social one.

    “Being a fat person in public space is difficult because attitudes towards fat people are so hostile,” she said. “That is what makes urban public spaces inaccessible: the fear of being judged, called names and being discriminated against.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/24/extend-green-man-crossing-times-cities-older-people

    The above is a load of trash.

    Motor-vehicle drivers don't race off on green and amber and mow down pedestrians on crossings.

    It's only chav-cyclists on their fairy-cycles who do that (to the rather limited extent that any of them stop at all, that is, at any sort of
    pedestrian crossing).

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 24 10:03:36 2023
    QUOTE: An Active Travel England (ATE) spokesperson said: “We want to enable millions more people to travel by walking, wheeling and cycling for short trips. A big part of that is being able to make sure crossing times are inclusive so that they give
    enough time for everyone to cross the road.” ENDS

    Good to see that they are applying this scheme to Toucan crossings as well. Should annoy the impatient Mr Toads.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Mon Jul 24 18:43:14 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 05:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    Whether it is crossing the road before the green man disappears, finding
    a spot to pause for breath, or identifying a landmark by which to
    navigate, getting out and about can be a challenge – particularly for
    older people or those with health problems.

    Now experts say a slew of measures could help to make towns and cities
    more friendly for the modern population, whose lives have become longer
    and waistlines larger.

    Among the proposed changes is an increase in the time given to people to cross the road.

    An Active Travel England (ATE) spokesperson said: “We want to enable
    millions more people to travel by walking, wheeling and cycling for
    short trips. A big part of that is being able to make sure crossing
    times are inclusive so that they give enough time for everyone to cross the road.”

    According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT), the
    assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from 1.2
    metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% – where
    there is a large number of slower pedestrians, for example. Few
    councils, however, have adopted the change.

    The shift is expected to be incorporated into guidance from ATE and
    linked to council funding.

    While ATE said the guidance was still being finalised, it said changes
    to crossing times could be particularly beneficial for older people.

    A study published in 2012 by researchers at University College London
    found that among people aged 65 or older, 76% of men and 85% of women
    had a walking speed below the 1.2 metres per second needed to use a pedestrian crossing.

    “Crossing times can be a challenge, particularly for elderly and
    disabled people, and a bad experience is enough to put someone off doing
    it,” the ATE spokesperson said.

    Stephen Edwards, the chief executive of the charity Living Streets, said
    the shift to a lower assumed walking speed would be welcome, noting the
    current value was calculated in the 1950s and had not changed since.

    “People walking and wheeling shouldn’t have to race to get to safety.
    These updated guidelines are a step in the right direction,” he said.

    The charity, which runs a number of campaigns to improve accessibility,
    is also calling for pedestrian crossings to stop the traffic more
    quickly, noting people were more likely to take risks when crossing
    roads if the delay was more than 30 seconds.

    Better walkways also matter, it notes, with the charity’s research
    showing 31% of over 65s are prevented from walking on their local
    streets because of cracked pavements. Meanwhile, clutter-free pavements
    – cleared of badly parked scooters, wheelie bins and poorly placed
    signage – would improve safety by removing obstacles.

    Edwards said more public toilets and places to pause when walking would
    be another positive outcome.

    “Places to rest are incredibly important for people who can’t walk long >> distances, including older people, those with chronic conditions or
    families with young children,” he said.

    “We want people to walk more of their everyday journeys to improve
    health and reduce congestion, however, if people don’t have places to
    stop and rest or access to public bathrooms, they simply won’t make the
    journey or will be forced into using less sustainable and less active ways to get around.”

    Caroline Abrahams, charity director at Age UK, also stressed the
    importance of such features for older people, adding good local
    amenities and public spaces also mattered. “Living a long fulfilling
    life is something we pretty much all aspire to, but one of the most
    important factors in helping us to live well for longer is our local
    environment,” she said.

    With the number of people with dementia in the UK expected to rise from
    almost 900,000 in 2021 to 1.6 million in 2040, experts have also flagged
    adaptations that could help those with such conditions. These include
    legible streets signs, streets laid out in an irregular grid pattern,
    uncomplicated junctions, and distinctive features placed at decision
    points such as junctions.

    But experts say it is not only elderly people, or those with dementia,
    who should be kept in mind.

    Dr Rachel Colls at Durham University noted that there were also actions
    that could be taken to make urban spaces size-inclusive, such as making
    seating larger, that would also be beneficial for public transport. In
    this context having seats with movable arms, expandable seat belts and
    the capacity to book two seats if required would make these spaces more
    accessible, she said.

    But, Colls added, it was not just the built environment that needed to
    change, but also the social one.

    “Being a fat person in public space is difficult because attitudes
    towards fat people are so hostile,” she said. “That is what makes urban >> public spaces inaccessible: the fear of being judged, called names and
    being discriminated against.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/24/extend-green-man-crossing-times-cities-older-people

    The above is a load of trash.

    Well, it’s The Guardian, after all…

    Motor-vehicle drivers don't race off on green and amber and mow down pedestrians on crossings.

    It's only chav-cyclists on their fairy-cycles who do that (to the rather limited extent that any of them stop at all, that is, at any sort of pedestrian crossing).



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    Spike

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 24 12:14:21 2023
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 6:03:39 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: An Active Travel England (ATE) spokesperson said: “We want to enable millions more people to travel by walking, wheeling and cycling for short trips. A big part of that is being able to make sure crossing times are inclusive so that they give
    enough time for everyone to cross the road.” ENDS

    Good to see that they are applying this scheme to Toucan crossings as well. Should annoy the impatient Mr Toads.

    A toucan crossing is the British term for a type of pedestrian crossing that also allows bicycles to be ridden across. Since “two can” cross together (both pedestrians and cyclists) the name “toucan” was chosen. In the United Kingdom toucan
    crossings are normally four metres (13 feet) wide, instead of the 2.8 metre (9 feet) width of any pelican crossing or puffin crossing.

    There are two types of toucan crossing: on more recently installed ones, a “green bicycle” is displayed next to the “green man” when cyclists and pedestrians are permitted to cross. A red bicycle and red man are shown at other times; older
    crossings do not have a red bicycle – bicycles are permitted to cross at any time (if it is safe to do so).

    Unlike the pelican crossing, before the lights for vehicles go back to green, a steady red and amber are displayed instead of the flashing amber. The pedestrian/cyclist signal lights may be on the near side of the crossing (like a puffin crossing), or on
    the opposite side of the road (like a pelican crossing). A related crossing type is the pegasus crossing for horse riders.

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  • From Peter Keller@21:1/5 to JNugent on Mon Jul 24 22:05:11 2023
    On 24. 7. 2023 18:49, JNugent wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 05:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    Whether it is crossing the road before the green man disappears,
    finding a spot to pause for breath, or identifying a landmark by which
    to navigate, getting out and about can be a challenge – particularly
    for older people or those with health problems.

    Now experts say a slew of measures could help to make towns and cities
    more friendly for the modern population, whose lives have become
    longer and waistlines larger.

    Among the proposed changes is an increase in the time given to people
    to cross the road.

    An Active Travel England (ATE) spokesperson said: “We want to enable
    millions more people to travel by walking, wheeling and cycling for
    short trips. A big part of that is being able to make sure crossing
    times are inclusive so that they give enough time for everyone to
    cross the road.”

    According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT),
    the assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from
    1.2 metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% –
    where there is a large number of slower pedestrians, for example. Few
    councils, however, have adopted the change.

    The shift is expected to be incorporated into guidance from ATE and
    linked to council funding.

    While ATE said the guidance was still being finalised, it said changes
    to crossing times could be particularly beneficial for older people.

    A study published in 2012 by researchers at University College London
    found that among people aged 65 or older, 76% of men and 85% of women
    had a walking speed below the 1.2 metres per second needed to use a
    pedestrian crossing.

    “Crossing times can be a challenge, particularly for elderly and
    disabled people, and a bad experience is enough to put someone off
    doing it,” the ATE spokesperson said.

    Stephen Edwards, the chief executive of the charity Living Streets,
    said the shift to a lower assumed walking speed would be welcome,
    noting the current value was calculated in the 1950s and had not
    changed since.

    “People walking and wheeling shouldn’t have to race to get to safety.
    These updated guidelines are a step in the right direction,” he said.

    The charity, which runs a number of campaigns to improve
    accessibility, is also calling for pedestrian crossings to stop the
    traffic more quickly, noting people were more likely to take risks
    when crossing roads if the delay was more than 30 seconds.

    Better walkways also matter, it notes, with the charity’s research
    showing 31% of over 65s are prevented from walking on their local
    streets because of cracked pavements. Meanwhile, clutter-free
    pavements – cleared of badly parked scooters, wheelie bins and poorly
    placed signage – would improve safety by removing obstacles.

    Edwards said more public toilets and places to pause when walking
    would be another positive outcome.

    “Places to rest are incredibly important for people who can’t walk
    long distances, including older people, those with chronic conditions
    or families with young children,” he said.

    “We want people to walk more of their everyday journeys to improve
    health and reduce congestion, however, if people don’t have places to
    stop and rest or access to public bathrooms, they simply won’t make
    the journey or will be forced into using less sustainable and less
    active ways to get around.”

    Caroline Abrahams, charity director at Age UK, also stressed the
    importance of such features for older people, adding good local
    amenities and public spaces also mattered. “Living a long fulfilling
    life is something we pretty much all aspire to, but one of the most
    important factors in helping us to live well for longer is our local
    environment,” she said.

    With the number of people with dementia in the UK expected to rise
    from almost 900,000 in 2021 to 1.6 million in 2040, experts have also
    flagged adaptations that could help those with such conditions. These
    include legible streets signs, streets laid out in an irregular grid
    pattern, uncomplicated junctions, and distinctive features placed at
    decision points such as junctions.

    But experts say it is not only elderly people, or those with dementia,
    who should be kept in mind.

    Dr Rachel Colls at Durham University noted that there were also
    actions that could be taken to make urban spaces size-inclusive, such
    as making seating larger, that would also be beneficial for public
    transport. In this context having seats with movable arms, expandable
    seat belts and the capacity to book two seats if required would make
    these spaces more accessible, she said.

    But, Colls added, it was not just the built environment that needed to
    change, but also the social one.

    “Being a fat person in public space is difficult because attitudes
    towards fat people are so hostile,” she said. “That is what makes
    urban public spaces inaccessible: the fear of being judged, called
    names and being discriminated against.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/24/extend-green-man-crossing-times-cities-older-people

    The above is a load of trash.

    Motor-vehicle drivers don't race off on green and amber and mow down pedestrians on crossings.

    It's only chav-cyclists on their fairy-cycles who do that (to the rather limited extent that any of them stop at all, that is, at any sort of pedestrian crossing).

    This chav-bicyclist on his fairy-bicycle stops at pedestrian crossings.
    He loves observing the delicious mini-skirted floosies in their flimsy
    low-cut cop-tops wandering across the crossing.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Peter Keller on Mon Jul 24 23:42:22 2023
    On 24/07/2023 09:05 pm, Peter Keller wrote:
    On 24. 7. 2023 18:49, JNugent wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 05:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    Whether it is crossing the road before the green man disappears,
    finding a spot to pause for breath, or identifying a landmark by
    which to navigate, getting out and about can be a challenge –
    particularly for older people or those with health problems.

    Now experts say a slew of measures could help to make towns and
    cities more friendly for the modern population, whose lives have
    become longer and waistlines larger.

    Among the proposed changes is an increase in the time given to people
    to cross the road.

    An Active Travel England (ATE) spokesperson said: “We want to enable
    millions more people to travel by walking, wheeling and cycling for
    short trips. A big part of that is being able to make sure crossing
    times are inclusive so that they give enough time for everyone to
    cross the road.”

    According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT),
    the assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from
    1.2 metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% –
    where there is a large number of slower pedestrians, for example. Few
    councils, however, have adopted the change.

    The shift is expected to be incorporated into guidance from ATE and
    linked to council funding.

    While ATE said the guidance was still being finalised, it said
    changes to crossing times could be particularly beneficial for older
    people.

    A study published in 2012 by researchers at University College London
    found that among people aged 65 or older, 76% of men and 85% of women
    had a walking speed below the 1.2 metres per second needed to use a
    pedestrian crossing.

    “Crossing times can be a challenge, particularly for elderly and
    disabled people, and a bad experience is enough to put someone off
    doing it,” the ATE spokesperson said.

    Stephen Edwards, the chief executive of the charity Living Streets,
    said the shift to a lower assumed walking speed would be welcome,
    noting the current value was calculated in the 1950s and had not
    changed since.

    “People walking and wheeling shouldn’t have to race to get to safety. >>> These updated guidelines are a step in the right direction,” he said.

    The charity, which runs a number of campaigns to improve
    accessibility, is also calling for pedestrian crossings to stop the
    traffic more quickly, noting people were more likely to take risks
    when crossing roads if the delay was more than 30 seconds.

    Better walkways also matter, it notes, with the charity’s research
    showing 31% of over 65s are prevented from walking on their local
    streets because of cracked pavements. Meanwhile, clutter-free
    pavements – cleared of badly parked scooters, wheelie bins and poorly
    placed signage – would improve safety by removing obstacles.

    Edwards said more public toilets and places to pause when walking
    would be another positive outcome.

    “Places to rest are incredibly important for people who can’t walk
    long distances, including older people, those with chronic conditions
    or families with young children,” he said.

    “We want people to walk more of their everyday journeys to improve
    health and reduce congestion, however, if people don’t have places to
    stop and rest or access to public bathrooms, they simply won’t make
    the journey or will be forced into using less sustainable and less
    active ways to get around.”

    Caroline Abrahams, charity director at Age UK, also stressed the
    importance of such features for older people, adding good local
    amenities and public spaces also mattered. “Living a long fulfilling
    life is something we pretty much all aspire to, but one of the most
    important factors in helping us to live well for longer is our local
    environment,” she said.

    With the number of people with dementia in the UK expected to rise
    from almost 900,000 in 2021 to 1.6 million in 2040, experts have also
    flagged adaptations that could help those with such conditions. These
    include legible streets signs, streets laid out in an irregular grid
    pattern, uncomplicated junctions, and distinctive features placed at
    decision points such as junctions.

    But experts say it is not only elderly people, or those with
    dementia, who should be kept in mind.

    Dr Rachel Colls at Durham University noted that there were also
    actions that could be taken to make urban spaces size-inclusive, such
    as making seating larger, that would also be beneficial for public
    transport. In this context having seats with movable arms, expandable
    seat belts and the capacity to book two seats if required would make
    these spaces more accessible, she said.

    But, Colls added, it was not just the built environment that needed
    to change, but also the social one.

    “Being a fat person in public space is difficult because attitudes
    towards fat people are so hostile,” she said. “That is what makes
    urban public spaces inaccessible: the fear of being judged, called
    names and being discriminated against.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/24/extend-green-man-crossing-times-cities-older-people


    The above is a load of trash.

    Motor-vehicle drivers don't race off on green and amber and mow down
    pedestrians on crossings.

    It's only chav-cyclists on their fairy-cycles who do that (to the
    rather limited extent that any of them stop at all, that is, at any
    sort of pedestrian crossing).

    This chav-bicyclist on his fairy-bicycle stops at pedestrian crossings.
    He loves observing the delicious mini-skirted floosies in their flimsy low-cut cop-tops wandering across the crossing.

    I know! :-)

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  • From Peter Keller@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 10:49:39 2023
    On 25. 7. 2023 10:20, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:05:14 PM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

    He loves observing the delicious mini-skirted floosies in their flimsy
    low-cut cop-tops wandering across the crossing.

    At your age, I'd be very careful about admitting such things!

    Why?
    I know what I like and don't care who else knows.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Peter Keller on Tue Jul 25 01:20:19 2023
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:05:14 PM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

    He loves observing the delicious mini-skirted floosies in their flimsy low-cut cop-tops wandering across the crossing.

    At your age, I'd be very careful about admitting such things!

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 02:09:57 2023
    QUOTE: According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT), the assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from 1.2 metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% – where there is a large number of slower
    pedestrians, for example. ENDS

    Don't forget the time it takes for a cyclist to dismount, walk across and then remount at the road on the other side.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 11:54:10 2023
    On 25/07/2023 10:09 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT), the assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from 1.2 metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% – where there is a large number of
    slower pedestrians, for example. ENDS

    Don't forget the time it takes for a chav-cyclist to dismount, walk across and then remount at the road on the other side.

    Why would a chav on a fairy-bike do that?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 11:55:04 2023
    On 25/07/2023 09:20 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:05:14 PM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

    He loves observing the delicious mini-skirted floosies in their flimsy
    low-cut cop-tops wandering across the crossing.

    At your age, I'd be very careful about admitting such things!

    Why?

    There's nothing illegal or even untoward about it.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Peter Keller on Tue Jul 25 11:55:18 2023
    On 25/07/2023 09:49 am, Peter Keller wrote:
    On 25. 7. 2023 10:20, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:05:14 PM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

    He loves observing the delicious mini-skirted floosies in their flimsy
    low-cut cop-tops wandering across the crossing.

    At your age, I'd be very careful about admitting such things!

    Why?
    I know what I like and don't care who else knows.

    Well said.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 05:27:48 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 10:09:59 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT), the assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from 1.2 metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% – where there is a large number of
    slower pedestrians, for example. ENDS

    Don't forget the time it takes for a cyclist to dismount, walk across and then remount at the road on the other side.

    I used to carry my bike across as "luggage" just to stay within the law 100%.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 14:16:59 2023
    On 25/07/2023 01:27 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    [pretending to answer himself, said:]

    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 10:09:59 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: According to 2019 guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT), the assumed speed at which people cross a road can be decreased from 1.2 metres a second to 1 metre a second – a change of almost 20% – where there is a large number of
    slower pedestrians, for example. ENDS

    Don't forget the time it takes for a cyclist to dismount, walk across and then remount at the road on the other side.

    I used to carry my bike across as "luggage" just to stay within the law 100%.

    Since when did you "stay within the law 100%"?

    You have posted links to video of yourself riding your chav-bike on
    footways and between "No Entry" signs.

    You have boasted of driving across halfway a continent in an unsafe
    vehicle (because you were too tight to get it fixed).

    Peculiar ways to stay within the law.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 08:25:08 2023
    QUOTE: “People walking and wheeling shouldn’t have to race to get to safety. ENDS

    Agreed - too many elderly people are harassed by impatient drivers revving their engines and sounding their horns in a futile attempt to get them to hurry up. Longer red light times would be great.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 08:48:31 2023
    QUOTE: Meanwhile, clutter-free pavements – cleared of badly parked scooters, wheelie bins and poorly placed signage – would improve safety by removing obstacles. ENDS

    You mean scenes like this?

    https://www.livingstreets.org.uk/media/1111/pavementparking.png

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 15:43:28 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: “People walking and wheeling shouldn’t have to race to get to safety. ENDS

    Agreed - too many elderly people are harassed by impatient drivers
    revving their engines and sounding their horns in a futile attempt to get them to hurry up. Longer red light times would be great.

    Longer red light times wouldn’t make any difference to cyclists, would
    they?

    --
    Spike

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