YOUNG people in Stirling will have the chance to create banners and flags for an upcoming major cycling event with free summer art workshops.

The art workshops will be held in communities along the route for the 2023 UCI Cycling World Championships as the build up for the event gains momentum.

Stirling will stage the Individual Time Trials from August 9 to August 11 with young people given the opportunity to design banners and signs to wave as the world’s best cyclists pass by during three days of thrilling racing.

Council leader Chris Kane said: “This is going to be the biggest sporting event in Stirling’s history and it’s incredibly exciting that we’re just over a month away until the action gets underway on August 9.

“These free workshops will be a great opportunity for our young people to learn about the races passing through their communities in a fun and creative environment.

“By hosting these world-class events we want to encourage more people of all ages to take up cycling and get more active and it would be fantastic to see Stirling’s children and young people lining the routes in August to get inspired by the power of
the bike.”

The drop-in workshops are open to children aged 5-14 and will be supported by artists from Creative Stirling and GOSSIP Collective, with some part of the council’s Play in the Park events.

There will be a workshop in Fintry on July 12 as part of the Play in the Park event that is being held at Fintry Sports Club Grounds from 11am to 3pm.

Cambusbarron will be next from July 17, at the same times, in the King George Play Area.

Kippen will follow on July 26 from 10am to 12noon at Kippen Reading Rooms.

Gragunnock Community Centre will also host a workshop on the same day, from 1.30pm to 3.30pm.

The workshops will move to Raploch Community Campus on July 27 from 10am to 12noon and thereafter to the Tolbooth Attic from 1.30pm to 3.30pm.

Again as part of Play in the Park, there will be a workshop at Thornhill Play Area on August 4 from 11am to 3pm.

Covering up to 48km of roads, the Individual Time Trials will see riders set off from the King’s Knot in the shadow of Stirling Castle, before heading out west into the countryside and looping back into Stirling’s historic city centre, with a sprint
through the city to the finish on the castle esplanade.

Allan’s Primary is based in the heart of Stirling’s historic city centre with riders passing the school on their way to the sprint finish at the castle.

Lindsey Howland, headteacher at Allan’s PS, said: “We are delighted that our school will feature in the final sprint finish to the castle which will share the heart of Stirling to audiences across the world.

“Cycling is a firm favourite in our school as we continue to promote and develop our children’s love of cycling through the Bikeability and Play on Pedals initiatives and the children are really excited about the events coming to Stirling in August.�
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Children must be accompanied by a parent or guardian at all times at the banner making workshops.

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On 27/06/2023 04:41 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

YOUNG people in Stirling will have the chance to create banners and flags for an upcoming major cycling event with free summer art workshops.

Well, there wouldn't be much point in trying to charge for it.

It'd be like a pub landlord trying to charge for a pint of cold water on
a hot summer's day when a horde of chavs have just come in on their
chav-bikes, led by a spokesman called "May Sun" who quotes a
centuries-old Act which (he says) means that hostelries MUST provide
free water to "customers"...

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QUOTE: Stirling will stage the Individual Time Trials from August 9 to August 11 with young people given the opportunity to design banners and signs to wave as the world’s best cyclists pass by during three days of thrilling racing. ENDS

"Racing" in the land of the forest stage car rally countryside - how apt.

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On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 5:37:08 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: Stirling will stage the Individual Time Trials from August 9 to August 11 with young people given the opportunity to design banners and signs to wave as the world’s best cyclists pass by during three days of thrilling racing. ENDS

"Racing" in the land of the forest stage car rally countryside - how apt.

Mind you, these races come with risks impossible with young cyclists:
QUOTE:

A rally driver has told an inquiry how his car crashed into spectators during a race in Inverness, killing a 51-year-old woman.

Graeme Schoneville, 31, was speaking during an inquiry into the deaths of four motor sport fans at two separate rallies in Scotland.

Joy Robson died of multiple injuries sustained at the Snowman rally in Inverness in 2013. Iain Provan, 64, Elizabeth Allan, 63, and Len Stern, 71, were killed the following year when a car ploughed into them at the Jim Clark rally near Coldstream in the
Scottish Borders.

In the first day of evidence at Edinburgh sheriff court, Schoneville, from Lanarkshire, told how the car he was driving spun out of control into spectators near a hairpin bend.

“We came to a corner and the road surface changed and the car began to slide, which was OK because we’ve experienced that plenty of times,” he said. “As I tried to correct the slide the car then swung in the other direction and impacted a rock.”

Schoneville said all he could remember of the moment of the crash was “a loud bang” from the back left of the Honda Civic he and his co-driver were in before the car somersaulted in the air. “I can remember it rolling just by seeing the sky, then
dark, then the sky,” he said.

Robson, a nursery teacher from Portree, Skye, was killed when the car landed upright on its wheels on top of her. An eight-year-old boy was also treated in hospital for injuries.

Schoneville and his navigator were both wearing a helmets and safety belts and escaped unhurt.

“Immediately after the crash, the car landing, [we were] aware of a lot of people round about the car and we could obviously see a commotion and we knew that somebody was potentially under the car,” he said.

Schoneville began rallying in 2006, but told the court that despite doing “bits and bobs” since the crash it had never felt the same.

Giving evidence, Michael Hossack, 36, who had been standing next to Robson at the event, said that after a car came very close to them he and his wife had decided to move up the road to a safer spot. “I said to my wife that I didn’t like that area,”
he said, explaining that car tyres were churning up the road and making the course “slidier and slidier”.

The inquiry, which is expected to last several weeks, will examine the circumstances surrounding the deaths and aims to “help to avoid such incidents happening in the future”. The decision to hold a joint fatal accident inquiry was announced in
December, though Scotland’s Crown Office said there would be no criminal proceedings in relation to either event unless new evidence came to light.

Evidence will be heard about the accident at the Jim Clark rally in May 2014 in the coming weeks. Provan, his partner, Allan, and Stern were fatally injured when a car spun off the course. Six others were injured after two accidents within two hours on
the course in the Duns and Kelso areas. The Jim Clark rally has been suspended until the completion of the inquiry.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: Stirling will stage the Individual Time Trials from August 9 to
August 11 with young people given the opportunity to design banners and
signs to wave as the world’s best cyclists pass by during three days of thrilling racing. ENDS

"Racing" in the land of the forest stage car rally countryside - how apt.

I can think of a banner design…the second word is “OFF”

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On 27/06/2023 06:37 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 5:37:08 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: Stirling will stage the Individual Time Trials from August 9 to August 11 with young people given the opportunity to design banners and signs to wave as the world’s best cyclists pass by during three days of thrilling racing. ENDS

"Racing" in the land of the forest stage car rally countryside - how apt.

Mind you, these races come with risks impossible with young cyclists:
QUOTE:

A rally driver has told an inquiry how his car crashed into spectators during a race in Inverness, killing a 51-year-old woman.

Graeme Schoneville, 31, was speaking during an inquiry into the deaths of four motor sport fans at two separate rallies in Scotland.

Joy Robson died of multiple injuries sustained at the Snowman rally in Inverness in 2013. Iain Provan, 64, Elizabeth Allan, 63, and Len Stern, 71, were killed the following year when a car ploughed into them at the Jim Clark rally near Coldstream in

the Scottish Borders.

In the first day of evidence at Edinburgh sheriff court, Schoneville, from Lanarkshire, told how the car he was driving spun out of control into spectators near a hairpin bend.

“We came to a corner and the road surface changed and the car began to slide, which was OK because we’ve experienced that plenty of times,” he said. “As I tried to correct the slide the car then swung in the other direction and impacted a rock.�

��

Schoneville said all he could remember of the moment of the crash was “a loud bang” from the back left of the Honda Civic he and his co-driver were in before the car somersaulted in the air. “I can remember it rolling just by seeing the sky, then

dark, then the sky,” he said.

Robson, a nursery teacher from Portree, Skye, was killed when the car landed upright on its wheels on top of her. An eight-year-old boy was also treated in hospital for injuries.

Schoneville and his navigator were both wearing a helmets and safety belts and escaped unhurt.

“Immediately after the crash, the car landing, [we were] aware of a lot of people round about the car and we could obviously see a commotion and we knew that somebody was potentially under the car,” he said.

Schoneville began rallying in 2006, but told the court that despite doing “bits and bobs” since the crash it had never felt the same.

Giving evidence, Michael Hossack, 36, who had been standing next to Robson at the event, said that after a car came very close to them he and his wife had decided to move up the road to a safer spot. “I said to my wife that I didn’t like that area,�

�� he said, explaining that car tyres were churning up the road and making the course “slidier and slidier”.

The inquiry, which is expected to last several weeks, will examine the circumstances surrounding the deaths and aims to “help to avoid such incidents happening in the future”. The decision to hold a joint fatal accident inquiry was announced in

December, though Scotland’s Crown Office said there would be no criminal proceedings in relation to either event unless new evidence came to light.

Evidence will be heard about the accident at the Jim Clark rally in May 2014 in the coming weeks. Provan, his partner, Allan, and Stern were fatally injured when a car spun off the course. Six others were injured after two accidents within two hours on

the course in the Duns and Kelso areas. The Jim Clark rally has been suspended until the completion of the inquiry.

*All* racing of all types (including racing given the hypocritical name "time-trialling") on highways or other public land should be banned.

It really couldn't be more straightforward.

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An inquiry into the deaths of three spectators at a car rally in the Scottish Borders has found that they should have been warned by organisers not to stand where they were hit.

The fatal accident inquiry (FAI) has concluded there was a "weak, ambiguous and inadequate" system for checking the warnings to people of unsafe vantage points at the Jim Clark Rally in May 2014.

The three spectators who died were 64-year-old Iain Provan, his partner Elizabeth Allan, 63, and 71-year-old Len Stern.

They were hit when a vehicle, with Irish driver David Carney at the wheel, skidded off the road and ploughed into the crowd.

The FAI also examined the death of 51-year-old Joy Robson at the Highland Snowman Rally bear Inverness in 2013. She was hit by a vehicle after it left the track.

In her case, Sheriff Kenneth MacIver concluded: "There are no reasonable precautions which I can identify whereby Mrs Robson's death or the accident causing her death could have been avoided."

In the case of the Jim Clark Rally, the sheriff found that the spot where the three spectators were killed should have been identified, in line with the organisers plan, so that it clearly prohibited spectators from standing anywhere near.

In his determination, he said the deaths were down to "no single person and no single circumstance" but was due to a "perfect storm" of circumstances.

He found that there had been an "unlikely coincidence" of errors and omissions in the event's organisation which had created a "perfect storm" that led to a disastrous consequence.

Andrew Henderson, the solicitor representing Joy Robson's said: "For Joy's children this was never about trying to stop rallying but rather to improve safety for the spectators.

"They always believed that the best way to do this was through the FAI process so that evidence could be properly evaluated and recommendations made.

"This is a very difficult time for them but they are absolutely resolute in their wish that no other family should ever go through the horror they have and that rallying is made as safe for its fans as it can possibly be."

https://news.sky.com/story/rally-death-spectators-not-warned-by-organisers-inquiry-finds-11137073

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A 19-year-old boy was killed and five people were seriously injured today when a rally car driver spun out of control during a race.

Shocking footage shows the driver careering around a corner before veering off the track and flying through the air towards spectators of the Rallye des Cardabelles in the south of France.

The 19-year-old boy died on the spot while a 17-year-old boy had to be flown by air ambulance to a hospital in Toulouse in a serious condition.

The driver, named by local media as Jean-Charles Beaubelique, 47, was coming out of a hairpin bend as he spun out of control and seemed to fly through the air.

The spectators who were injured had been standing in a forbidden spot next to the track. The French Motor Sports Federation said in the early afternoon that the rally was cancelled.

A spokesman told Midi Libre: 'The organisation has decided to stop the rally so that all necessary means are provided to the victims.

'The FFSA extends its deepest condolences to the family as well as to the relatives of the victim.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7566365/Tragic-moment-rally-driver-loses-control-just-killing-teenage-fan.html

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20:24, 12 Oct 2019 , updated 20:24, 12 Oct 2019:

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A 19-year-old boy was killed and five people were seriously injured today when a rally car driver spun out of control during a race.

<snip>

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7566365/Tragic-moment-rally-driver-loses-control-just-killing-teenage-fan.html

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Scraping the bottom:

“…at the Jim Clark Rally in May 2014”

Nine years ago!

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

An inquiry into the deaths of three spectators at a car rally in the
Scottish Borders has found that they should have been warned by
organisers not to stand where they were hit.

<snip>

https://news.sky.com/story/rally-death-spectators-not-warned-by-organisers-inquiry-finds-11137073

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On 27/06/2023 08:12 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

An inquiry into the deaths of three spectators at a car rally in the Scottish Borders has found that they should have been warned by organisers not to stand where they were hit.

The fatal accident inquiry (FAI) has concluded there was a "weak, ambiguous and inadequate" system for checking the warnings to people of unsafe vantage points at the Jim Clark Rally in May 2014.

The three spectators who died were 64-year-old Iain Provan, his partner Elizabeth Allan, 63, and 71-year-old Len Stern.

They were hit when a vehicle, with Irish driver David Carney at the wheel, skidded off the road and ploughed into the crowd.

The FAI also examined the death of 51-year-old Joy Robson at the Highland Snowman Rally bear Inverness in 2013. She was hit by a vehicle after it left the track.

In her case, Sheriff Kenneth MacIver concluded: "There are no reasonable precautions which I can identify whereby Mrs Robson's death or the accident causing her death could have been avoided."

In the case of the Jim Clark Rally, the sheriff found that the spot where the three spectators were killed should have been identified, in line with the organisers plan, so that it clearly prohibited spectators from standing anywhere near.

In his determination, he said the deaths were down to "no single person and no single circumstance" but was due to a "perfect storm" of circumstances.

He found that there had been an "unlikely coincidence" of errors and omissions in the event's organisation which had created a "perfect storm" that led to a disastrous consequence.

Andrew Henderson, the solicitor representing Joy Robson's said: "For Joy's children this was never about trying to stop rallying but rather to improve safety for the spectators.

"They always believed that the best way to do this was through the FAI process so that evidence could be properly evaluated and recommendations made.

"This is a very difficult time for them but they are absolutely resolute in their wish that no other family should ever go through the horror they have and that rallying is made as safe for its fans as it can possibly be."

https://news.sky.com/story/rally-death-spectators-not-warned-by-organisers-inquiry-finds-11137073

Ban ALL racing on the highway - no matter what the pretext.

Sorted.

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A rally driver has died and another is in hospital following a crash on the Isle of Mull yesterday.

Andy Mort, 47, was pronounced dead at the scene by paramedics.

John MacCrone, 26, suffered serious injuries and was airlifted to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow.

The men were participating in the annual Mull Rally, which sees 150 cars take part in high-speed stages over three days.

MacCrone, from Mull, was driving and Mort, who was also from the island, was his co-driver.

Two drivers were also taken to hospital on Friday after a crash, according to a statement on the event’s official Facebook page.

It said: “Tommy Graham and co-driver Mike Bailey involved in big crash on SS2 in their Mitsubishi Evo. Both being taken to hospital for checks. Driver complaining of a sore shoulder, co-driver ok.

“But it was a big crash: rolled 4 or 5 times, landed on roof on the road and blocked the stage.”

Shortly after the fatal crash on Saturday, organisers announced that the weekend event had been abandoned.

Road policing officers are investigating the incident, which happened shortly after 1pm.

They have asked spectators to hand over mobile phone footage of the crash.

Sergeant Archie McGuire of Argyll and West Dunbartonshire Divisional Road Policing Unit, who is leading the inquiry, said: “For the spectators and participants of the annual Mull Rally, this has been a desperately saddening event. We are working
closely with the event organisers in investigating the incident.

“Specialist officers are at the scene and have begun the process of determining the circumstances which have led to this crash.

“We thank those who have been in contact with police at the scene to pass on information and to give statements. We would ask for anyone else who has not yet given a statement to contact officers at the Road Policing Unit at Dumbarton on the 101 number.
We would be grateful to receive any mobile phone footage that spectators may have as part of our ongoing enquiries.”

In a statement, the Motor Sports Association said: “As with any serious incident in or around UK motor sports, the MSA is now working with the event organisers and relevant authorities to establish precisely what happened on this occasion.

“The MSA is saddened by this tragic incident and sends its condolences to the family and friends of the co-driver, and offers its best wishes to the driver for a full recovery.”

The Scottish Government ordered a review of motorsport event safety after the deaths of three spectators at the Jim Clark Rally in 2014.

Iain Provan, 64; Elizabeth Allan, 63; and Len Stern, 71, died at the event in the Borders after a car veered off the road.

A spectator was also killed at the Snowman Rally in the Highlands in 2013. Joy Robson, 50, of Skye died and an eight-year-old boy was injured.

The review’s recommendations included the introduction of a mandatory marshal licensing scheme, new rules on assisting cars back onto the road, improved communication with spectators and the adoption of international standards for identifying low,
medium and high risk spectator areas.

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UPDATED: 22:01, Sat, Oct 10, 2015

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A rally driver has died and another is in hospital following a crash on
the Isle of Mull yesterday.

Andy Mort, 47, was pronounced dead at the scene

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The driver of a rally car involved in a crash which killed three people broke down as he told an inquiry he saw a woman 'flying in the air'.

David Carney, 29, from Ireland, said he lost control of the vehicle after going over a bridge and then realised he was heading towards spectators.

He said he no longer rallies, and more than three years on from the crash "every time I close my eyes at night I still see three people lying in the road".

He was giving evidence at a fatal accident inquiry examining the deaths of photographer Iain Provan, 64, his partner Betty Allan, 63, and Len Stern, 71, at the Jim Clark Rally near Coldstream in the Scottish Borders in May 2014, as well as the death of
Joy Robson, 51, at the Snowman Rally in Glenurquhart in the Highlands the previous year.

Mr Carney told Edinburgh Sheriff Court he had been an amateur rally driver since 2008, competing in races at home and overseas, and had driven the Jim Clark Rally in 2013.

He said his vehicle had come off the road during the rally the day before the crash on May 31 and hit a tree.

Mr Carney said it had been repaired by his team of engineers then undergone further repairs on the day of the crash as the rear had felt unusual during the morning stages.

He said once those repairs had been carried out the car "felt perfect", and he had expected to go over the bridge with no problems.

The court was shown photos of the car landing and swerving to the left, then right.

Mr Carney said: "I steered into the slide but the car just kept coming. It seemed to just go that quick, I couldn't catch it."

He told the police in a statement: "I knew at this time I was a passenger as I had the steering wheel fully locked and I couldn't do anything else."

He told the court: "The car continued to turn round 180 degrees while sliding back off the road."

Andrew Brown QC, for the Crown, asked him: "Were you aware that the car was heading towards spectators?"

Mr Carney became emotional as he replied: "Only when I looked after I knew the car was gone.

"I grabbed my helmet and started shouting 'no, no, no'. I knew I had lost control at that point.

"It didn't seem real at first. I remember seeing dust and a woman flying in the air."

He said there was "disbelief" after the car came to a stop and he got out to see if he could help the people lying on the ground.

He said: "I went over to someone who was getting up from all fours and someone was running down to them. I said sorry.

"I wanted to try and help in some way but I didn't know how."

Mr Carney said he "couldn't figure out" why the car had crashed.

The inquiry heard from official reports stating there were no defects on the car and concluding the crash at 81mph was likely to be either due to the car going too fast for the driver's ability, not being aligned to a slight deviation to the right on
landing, not landing in proper alignment or a combination of these factors.

Mr Carney said he did not believe he had been going too fast, and added: "It seemed to be okay from the moment we left the bridge to the split second we landed and then it just went."

Earlier on Thursday, marshal Tom Roger, 27, told the inquiry the crash site was a like a "war zone".

He said if he had known people were standing in the area before the crash he would have stopped the cars, but he had been standing further along the road out of sight of the area.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

The driver of a rally car involved in a crash which killed three people
broke down as he told an inquiry he saw a woman 'flying in the air'.

Article produced without attribution from:

<https://m.independent.ie/news/rally-driver-recalls-moment-woman-flew-through-air-as-car-crashed/36019891.html>

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Co-driver to her husband, Duncan Cameron in a Peugeot 205 Rallye, Susan Cameron, 46, was fatally injured on Friday, 10 October 2003 night in an accident which happened during the 34th Philips Tour of Mull Rally in Scotland, when their car left the road
above Kilbrennan, near Torloisk, and hit a tree.

It happened at around 22h30, shortly after the start of the third stage of the rally, on the island of Mull's narrow and winding roads of Calgary Bay, in western Scotland. The driver Duncan Cameron, 45, was unhurt. Emergency services attended the scene,
but paramedics could not save Susan Cameron's life.

A resident of Laurencekirk in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, Susan Cameron, née Harrott, was pronounced dead at the scene at 00h15 on Saturday, 11 October 2003. An experienced rally co-driver, she guided her husband in rallies in UK and abroad, since the
1980s. The couple had won many trophies, including two consecutive class victories in the Rallye National du Touquet in France, in 2001 and 2002.

Almost 150 cars and drivers from all over the UK were entered in the three-day Tour of Mull Rally, organised by the 2300 Club of Blackburn in Lancashire. It was a round of the 2003 Scottish Tarmac rally Championship. After the tragedy, the remaining four
stages of the first leg of the tour were canceled. It was Duncan Cameron’s wish that the rally continued the next day. Winners of the rally were Calum Duffy-Delicon Duffy in a Ford Escort MK2 RS.

Susan Cameron was reported to be the first fatality that marred the Tour of Mull Rally in its 34 editions. A second fatal accident occurred in 2015, claiming the life of co-driver Andy Mort.

One year after his wife's death, Duncan Cameron bravely came back to compete in rallies, finishing 30th in the 2004 Tour of Mull Rally, with Andy Bull as co-driver in his Peugeot 205 Rallye.

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Do you really think you are bringing any comfort at all to the friends and relatives of the deceased by dragging up this 20-year-old tragedy?

Or in true sociopathic style, don’t you care about them?


swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Co-driver to her husband, Duncan Cameron in a Peugeot 205 Rallye, Susan Cameron, 46, was fatally injured on Friday, 10 October 2003 night in an accident which happened during the 34th Philips Tour of Mull Rally in Scotland, when their car left the road above Kilbrennan, near Torloisk, and hit a tree.

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On 28/06/2023 09:29 am, Spike wrote:

21:51, Sat, Oct 10, 2015
UPDATED: 22:01, Sat, Oct 10, 2015

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A rally driver has died and another is in hospital following a crash on
the Isle of Mull yesterday.

Andy Mort, 47, was pronounced dead at the scene

<snip>

I was going to remark upon the name, but decided against it because it
would be in terrible taste.

You know, the sort of thing May Sun would mention.

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JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:

On 28/06/2023 09:29 am, Spike wrote:

21:51, Sat, Oct 10, 2015

UPDATED: 22:01, Sat, Oct 10, 2015

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A rally driver has died and another is in hospital following a crash on
the Isle of Mull yesterday.

Andy Mort, 47, was pronounced dead at the scene

<snip>

I was going to remark upon the name, but decided against it because it
would be in terrible taste.

You know, the sort of thing May Sun would mention.

Quite, I did the same.

I wonder if May Sun has any grasp of the connection?

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A Scottish stock car racer who had been drinking killed a Royal Navy veteran before fleeing the scene.

Marc Fortune, 28, was behind the wheel of his 4x4 pick up when he ploughed into the back of a Vauxhall Meriva driven by John King. The 63 year-old's car was forced off the road and ended up spinning down an embankment on the A92 near Cowdenbeath in Fife.

John - who had served in the Royal Navy for 25 years - never survived the crash on September 12 2020, as the Daily Record reports.

A young boy and a baby in the motor were also hurt, but luckily survived. Fortune - who had earlier been spotted swigging vodka at a stock car meeting - drove off later telling a friend: "My mum is going to kill me."

A judge heard it was instead the "remarkable courage" of the boy injured in the crash who brought the emergency services to the scene late at night. First offender Fortune now faces a lengthy jail-term after he today pled guilty to a charge of causing
death by dangerous driving.

Prosecutor Richard Goddard KC told how Fortune was involved in racing stock cars mainly at a track in Lochgelly, Fife. He had been there on the night of the incident as a spectator.

Mr Goddard told the High Court in Glasgow: "He was seen to take a full sized bottle of vodka from the passenger seat of his Mitsubishi Barbarian L200. He was seen to pinch his nose and drink 'a good few mouthfuls'.

Fortune was described as if he was "tipsy". Despite this, he later drove off in his 4x4 and headed on the A92. John meantime was on the same road on the way to collect a relative from work.

One child was in the front passenger seat with the younger in a baby seat in the back. John was in the inside lane when he was suddenly struck at the back by Fortune's vehicle.

This caused the Vauxhall to spin, hit a barrier and then hurtle through the air before rolling down an embankment. Mr Goddard: "The offside doors burst open and the roof as well as the rear of the vehicle were severely damaged."

It was estimated Fortune had been travelling "at a speed in excess" of the 70mph John was said to be going at. Instead of stopping to help, Fortune instead carried on for half a mile before locking and abandoning his 4x4.

He initially got a woman to collect him claiming he had crashed his car, but did not want to talk about it. Fortune then called a friend to drive him later stating to him: "My mum is going to kill me - I just hit it. They locked up the brakes and I just
hit it."

The court heard that the older boy meantime managed to clamber out of the wrecked Vauxhall. Mr Goddard: "With remarkable courage and presence of mind, he dialled 999. He was highly distressed, but able to remain on the phone and describe the road he had
travelled to allow the emergency services to locate him.

"He was able to describe the condition of (John) and the other child. Towards the end of the call, he approached the road and used his mobile phone torch to successfully guide police."

John, of Ballingry, Fife, was found still in the car, but unresponsive. The baby was upside down in his baby seat. Attempts were made to save John, but he never recovered from head, neck and chest injuries.

Both children suffered cuts and remained in hospital overnight. Police found Fortune's 4x4 and he was traced to his father's home in Kirknewton, Midlothian the next morning.

He had to be woken from his bed and still appeared under the influence of alcohol. He claimed to have left the Mitsubishi parked at the racetrack and that his cousin had given him a lift home. Police checked out his claims, but found he was lying.

They later returned and Fortune was breathalysed. He was found to have 75mg (sic) of alcohol per 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 22mg (sic). Fortune stated he had drunk three vodka and cokes before officers had come back.

The court heard John is survived by his wife of 34 years as well as five brothers, two stepchildren and five grandchildren. It was also stated the boy in the crash remains badly affected, but that there have been "small improvements" in him.

Fortune was remanded in custody as sentencing was deferred for reports.

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Two teenagers have been killed in a tragic accident after a rally car came off the road and crashed into spectators during a competition in Belgium.

The annual Rallye Condroz-Huy race was abandoned in devastating circumstances after a 16-year-old girl and 18-year-old man died following a crash near the town of Wanze in Liege. Spectators were watching the Belgian Rally Series roadside, and the
teenagers were killed after a car veered off the road and crashed in slippery conditions on Sunday.

A statement published on the rally competition's website has since confirmed the details of the tragic accident: "The car veered off the road and hit a small parapet before rolling onto its side, hitting a group of spectators who were in an area
prohibited to the public."

Organisers said the two teenagers died despite 'very rapid intervention of the emergency services'.

A competitor and one other person was taken to hospital after the accident, but were not in a critical condition, the rally competition's statement confirmed.

A judicial inquiry is underway to determine the circumstances of the tragic accident that occurred at around 3:30pm on Sunday.

The annual Rallye Condroz-Huy race was abandoned in devastating circumstances after a 16-year-old girl and 18-year-old man died following a crash near the town of Wanze in Liege. Spectators were watching the Belgian Rally Series roadside, and the
teenagers were killed after a car veered off the road and crashed in slippery conditions on Sunday.

A statement published on the rally competition's website has since confirmed the details of the tragic accident: "The car veered off the road and hit a small parapet before rolling onto its side, hitting a group of spectators who were in an area
prohibited to the public."

Organisers said the two teenagers died despite 'very rapid intervention of the emergency services'.

A competitor and one other person was taken to hospital after the accident, but were not in a critical condition, the rally competition's statement confirmed.

A judicial inquiry is underway to determine the circumstances of the tragic accident that occurred at around 3:30pm on Sunday.

The last leg of the rally, which was at its penultimate stage, has since been cancelled and no trophy ceremony was held at the end of the race..

Organisers have offered their 'deepest condolences' to the families of the teenagers involved in the crash.

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On 28/06/2023 04:23 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A Scottish stock car racer who had been drinking killed a Royal Navy veteran before fleeing the scene.
Marc Fortune, 28, was behind the wheel of his 4x4 pick up when he ploughed into the back of a Vauxhall Meriva driven by John King. The 63 year-old's car was forced off the road and ended up spinning down an embankment on the A92 near Cowdenbeath in

Fife.

John - who had served in the Royal Navy for 25 years - never survived the crash on September 12 2020, as the Daily Record reports.
A young boy and a baby in the motor were also hurt, but luckily survived. Fortune - who had earlier been spotted swigging vodka at a stock car meeting - drove off later telling a friend: "My mum is going to kill me."
A judge heard it was instead the "remarkable courage" of the boy injured in the crash who brought the emergency services to the scene late at night. First offender Fortune now faces a lengthy jail-term after he today pled guilty to a charge of causing

death by dangerous driving.

Prosecutor Richard Goddard KC told how Fortune was involved in racing stock cars mainly at a track in Lochgelly, Fife. He had been there on the night of the incident as a spectator.
Mr Goddard told the High Court in Glasgow: "He was seen to take a full sized bottle of vodka from the passenger seat of his Mitsubishi Barbarian L200. He was seen to pinch his nose and drink 'a good few mouthfuls'.
Fortune was described as if he was "tipsy". Despite this, he later drove off in his 4x4 and headed on the A92. John meantime was on the same road on the way to collect a relative from work.
One child was in the front passenger seat with the younger in a baby seat in the back. John was in the inside lane when he was suddenly struck at the back by Fortune's vehicle.
This caused the Vauxhall to spin, hit a barrier and then hurtle through the air before rolling down an embankment. Mr Goddard: "The offside doors burst open and the roof as well as the rear of the vehicle were severely damaged."
It was estimated Fortune had been travelling "at a speed in excess" of the 70mph John was said to be going at. Instead of stopping to help, Fortune instead carried on for half a mile before locking and abandoning his 4x4.
He initially got a woman to collect him claiming he had crashed his car, but did not want to talk about it. Fortune then called a friend to drive him later stating to him: "My mum is going to kill me - I just hit it. They locked up the brakes and I

just hit it."

The court heard that the older boy meantime managed to clamber out of the wrecked Vauxhall. Mr Goddard: "With remarkable courage and presence of mind, he dialled 999. He was highly distressed, but able to remain on the phone and describe the road he

had travelled to allow the emergency services to locate him.

"He was able to describe the condition of (John) and the other child. Towards the end of the call, he approached the road and used his mobile phone torch to successfully guide police."
John, of Ballingry, Fife, was found still in the car, but unresponsive. The baby was upside down in his baby seat. Attempts were made to save John, but he never recovered from head, neck and chest injuries.
Both children suffered cuts and remained in hospital overnight. Police found Fortune's 4x4 and he was traced to his father's home in Kirknewton, Midlothian the next morning.
He had to be woken from his bed and still appeared under the influence of alcohol. He claimed to have left the Mitsubishi parked at the racetrack and that his cousin had given him a lift home. Police checked out his claims, but found he was lying.
They later returned and Fortune was breathalysed. He was found to have 75mg (sic) of alcohol per 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 22mg (sic). Fortune stated he had drunk three vodka and cokes before officers had come back.
The court heard John is survived by his wife of 34 years as well as five brothers, two stepchildren and five grandchildren. It was also stated the boy in the crash remains badly affected, but that there have been "small improvements" in him.
Fortune was remanded in custody as sentencing was deferred for reports.

1. Is Cowdenbeath a suburb of Stirling?

2. Who was riding the chav-cycle?

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On 28/06/2023 04:56 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Two teenagers have been killed in a tragic accident after a rally car came off the road and crashed into spectators during a competition in Belgium.
The annual Rallye Condroz-Huy race was abandoned in devastating circumstances after a 16-year-old girl and 18-year-old man died following a crash near the town of Wanze in Liege. Spectators were watching the Belgian Rally Series roadside, and the

teenagers were killed after a car veered off the road and crashed in slippery conditions on Sunday.

A statement published on the rally competition's website has since confirmed the details of the tragic accident: "The car veered off the road and hit a small parapet before rolling onto its side, hitting a group of spectators who were in an area

prohibited to the public."

Organisers said the two teenagers died despite 'very rapid intervention of the emergency services'.
A competitor and one other person was taken to hospital after the accident, but were not in a critical condition, the rally competition's statement confirmed.
A judicial inquiry is underway to determine the circumstances of the tragic accident that occurred at around 3:30pm on Sunday.
The annual Rallye Condroz-Huy race was abandoned in devastating circumstances after a 16-year-old girl and 18-year-old man died following a crash near the town of Wanze in Liege. Spectators were watching the Belgian Rally Series roadside, and the

teenagers were killed after a car veered off the road and crashed in slippery conditions on Sunday.

A statement published on the rally competition's website has since confirmed the details of the tragic accident: "The car veered off the road and hit a small parapet before rolling onto its side, hitting a group of spectators who were in an area

prohibited to the public."

Organisers said the two teenagers died despite 'very rapid intervention of the emergency services'.
A competitor and one other person was taken to hospital after the accident, but were not in a critical condition, the rally competition's statement confirmed.
A judicial inquiry is underway to determine the circumstances of the tragic accident that occurred at around 3:30pm on Sunday.

Which Sunday?

Did it all take place in this century?

The last leg of the rally, which was at its penultimate stage, has since been cancelled and no trophy ceremony was held at the end of the race..
Organisers have offered their 'deepest condolences' to the families of the teenagers involved in the crash.

Such "deep condolences" would be easier to treat as sincere if all such "organisers" repented of organising races on the public highway and
promised never to do it again.

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A RALLY spectator died yesterday after he was hit by one of the cars.

The man, who was in his 60s, suffered serious head injuries in the collision at Dixies Corner, near Sennybridge, Powys, at 10.20am.

He was airlifted to the University Hospital of Wales, Cardiff, but died of his injuries.

The driver of the rally car suffered minor injuries in the incident and was taken to Prince Charles Hospital in Merthyr.

The Harry Flatters 09 Rally had been taking place in the area over the weekend.

Inspector Adrian Evans said last night: “Dyfed-Powys Police can now confirm that the spectator in collision with the rally car at Dixies Corner, Sennybridge, has died.

“His personal details are not being released until the next of kin have been informed.”

Inspector Evans said officers were appealing for any witnesses to the incident to contact them.

“The police are particularly keen to have contact with any person that may have any images made at the time, immediately prior to or after the incident,” he said.

Inspector Diane Davies, who was at the scene, said the man had been watching the rally with his family. She said: “What we think has happened is the car came over the brow of a hill and the driver lost control of the vehicle.

“He crossed some marshland, somersaulted and sadly collided with a spectator.”

In a statement the Brecon Motor Club which oversees the rally event said: “It is with regret that Brecon Motor Club reports the tragic death of a spectator on Sunday the 2nd of August during the running of the Harry Flatters Rally on the private roads
of Mynydd Epynt.

“All the relevant authorities have been informed and inquiries into the accident are ongoing.”

The death comes two years after a stage of the Wales Rally GB had to be stopped when two spectators were injured.

In December 2007 a 39-year-old man and his 14-year-old nephew were taken to hospital for treatment after they were struck by flying debris when a powerful Subaru Impreza driven by former British karting champion Simon Harraway crashed off the rally track
close to where they were standing.

And back in 2005, the Wales Rally GB saw the death of 39-year-old father-of-two Mike Park who had been acting as co-driver to one of the world’s top rally drivers, Estonian Markko Martin.

Martin later told an inquest in Neath he could not explain the crash which killed his co-driver. Martin described how he lost control of his Peugeot 307 car as he travelled at up to 100mph in a rally stage at Bryn Forest near Port Talbot.

An accidental death verdict was recorded.

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Colin McRae is the third British rally driver to have died in the past two years.

In November 2005, four years to the day after winning the World Rally Championship, McRae's former Subaru team-mate Richard Burns died, aged 34, after having been in a coma as a result of a brain tumour.

His death was overshadowed by the death on the same day of the footballer George Best.

In November 2003, Burns was driving to the season-ending Wales Rally GB, still in the frame for the title, when he suffered a blackout in his car.

He withdrew from the event and was eventually diagnosed with an astrocytoma.

He had chemotherapy and radiotherapy and left hospital briefly in 2004 but, despite surgery in April 2005, he died later that year.

Two months before Burns' death - two years ago tomorrow - the co-driver Michael Park died during the Margam stage of the Wales Rally GB.

Park was driving with Markko Martin in a Peugeot 307 when the pair crashed into a tree.

McRae is also the second Scottish sportsman to have been killed in a helicopter accident in the last few years.

In July 2003, Steve Hislop, the British Superbikes champion of 1995 and 2002 who also won the Isle of Man TT 11 times, died in a crash in Roxburghshire.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A RALLY spectator died yesterday after he was hit by one of the cars.

In 2009.

And this is supposed to help the grieving family and friends in what way, exactly?


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And this is supposed to help the grieving family and friends in what way, exactly?

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Two teenagers have been killed in a tragic accident after a rally car
came off the road and crashed into spectators during a competition in Belgium.

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A Tipperary rally driver, Mr Frank Meagher, died while giving a "spin" to a rally fan, an inquest into his death heard yesterday.

Mr Meagher died when his Ford Sierra Cosworth Sapphire car overturned and struck a tree on a forest track at Anner Wood, close to his home in Cloneen, Fethard, Co Tipperary.

A statement was read out in the South Tipperary Coroner's Court yesterday by a passenger in Mr Meagher's car at the time of his death on the afternoon of March 10th last.

The inquest heard that Ms Helen O'Riordan, of Lyredane, Greenagh, Co Cork, received only minor injuries, while Mr Meagher (39), a father of four, sustained traumatic injuries.

Ms O'Riordan said that she was looking at a stopwatch on her lap when she heard Mr Meagher shout. She looked up and saw the car driving along the bank of the road. After it came to a halt, she tried talking to Mr Meagher and checked for a pulse, but
there was no response.

She had always wanted a "spin" in his car, and he had agreed on that occasion, the inquest heard.

The coroner, Mr Paul Morris, heard a pathologist's evidence that Mr Meagher died from dislocation fractures to six of his cervical vertebrae and rupture of the underlying spinal cord.

A jury agreed with the coroner's verdict of accidental death due to a road traffic accident.

A popular figure in motor sport, Mr Meagher won the Circuit of Ireland Rally Championship in 1992 and the Tarmac Championship in 1995. He won the Tipperary Stonethrowers Rally a record nine times. He was also a successful businessman.

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A man has died during a vintage car rally after his vehicle, which was more than 100 years old, collided with a lorry on the motorway in Sussex.

The 80-year-old and his female passenger, believed to be a married couple, were taking part in Bonham’s London to Brighton Veteran Car Run on Sunday when they took a wrong turn, deviating from the rally’s official route before winding up on the
motorway.

Their 1903 Knox Runabout Old Porcupine – a tiny, open-cabin vehicle with a single-cylinder engine and max speed of 35mph – collided with an HGV near Junction 7 on the southbound M23, outside Hooley, Surrey.

Emergency services arrived shortly after 10am. The man was pronounced dead at the scene. The woman suffered serious head injuries and was airlifted to hospital.

Surrey police confirmed the man’s death in a statement, adding that the next of kin had been notified and asking anyone who witnessed the collision to come forward.

More than 400 vehicles dating from before 1905 were due to take part in the run, the oldest motoring event in the world according to its organisers, the Royal Automobile Club.

The rally is held every year to commemorate the 1896 “Emancipation Run”, a celebration of the Locomotives on Highways Act, which bumped the speed limit up to 14mph and allowed motorists to drive without being escorted by an attendant on foot.

The crash comes two years after another fatal accident, in which six people participating in the run were injured when a 1902 Benz collided with four other cars outside Reigate Hill, Surrey.

David Corry, the 68-year-old driver of the vehicle, died from his injuries two days later.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A Tipperary rally driver, Mr Frank Meagher, died while giving a "spin" to
a rally fan, an inquest into his death heard yesterday.

And this is supposed to help the grieving family and friends in what way, exactly?


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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Colin McRae is the third British rally driver to have died in the past two years.

And this is supposed to help the grieving families and friends in what way, exactly?

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Rally racers cheated death after their car rolled and a huge log crashed through the windscreen.

Dramatic footage shows the car sliding off the road at high speed during the Snowman Rally in the Highlands at the weekend.

As Tom Howie’s car rolls, a 5ft log slams through the windshield but is thrown clear as the motor tumbles back on to its wheels.

As smoke and steam pour from the engine, Tom can be heard shouting: “F***. You dirty little f****** b****** .”

Tom, 21, from North Kessock, near Inverness, was unhurt – and more upset at the state of his dad’s classic Talbot Sunbeam.

The footage, captured by CPL Motorsport Media, shows the Talbot clipping loose gravel as it corners on the edge of the track.

As the rear end starts to slide out, the car rolls down into the ditch.

The log, which is as long as the car is wide, goes through the windscreen on the co-driver’s side, slides to the other side and pivots in front of Tom’s face before it is thrown clear by the momentum of the car as it lands on its wheels.

Tom can then be seen throwing a chunk of 
turf out of the 30-year-old car. He said: “It happened so quickly to be honest, I didn’t see the log but we narrowly missed a huge rock.

“It was my first forest event and my first event with my co-driver.

“We had a brilliant start to the day, third in class coming into the first service. No problems with the car at all.

“Then we went a bit harder in stages two and three, coming into the second service with a 12-second class lead and sitting 45th overall.”

Tom explained the car has been in his family since 1989, and he has been preparing it for events for the last 10 years. He said: “It was Dad’s old car.

“I have no idea how much money we’ve invested in it since we’ve used my Dad’s old parts to build it.

“He was devastated when he heard about what happened but he told me all the best rally drivers crash at some point.”

The Snowman Rally –named after the usually wintry conditions it takes place in – is the first event of the Scottish Rally Championship 
and is run in forest roads around the Inverness area.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A man has died during a vintage car rally after his vehicle, which was
more than 100 years old, collided with a lorry on the motorway in Sussex.

And this is supposed to help the grieving family and friends in what way, exactly?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Rally racers cheated death after their car rolled and a huge log crashed through the windscreen.

22 FEB 2017

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On 28/06/2023 10:04 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Rally racers cheated death after their car rolled and a huge log crashed through the windscreen.

Dramatic footage shows the car sliding off the road at high speed during the Snowman Rally in the Highlands at the weekend.

As Tom Howie’s car rolls, a 5ft log slams through the windshield but is thrown clear as the motor tumbles back on to its wheels.

As smoke and steam pour from the engine, Tom can be heard shouting: “F***. You dirty little f****** b****** .”

Tom, 21, from North Kessock, near Inverness, was unhurt – and more upset at the state of his dad’s classic Talbot Sunbeam.

The footage, captured by CPL Motorsport Media, shows the Talbot clipping loose gravel as it corners on the edge of the track.

As the rear end starts to slide out, the car rolls down into the ditch.

The log, which is as long as the car is wide, goes through the windscreen on the co-driver’s side, slides to the other side and pivots in front of Tom’s face before it is thrown clear by the momentum of the car as it lands on its wheels.

Tom can then be seen throwing a chunk of 
turf out of the 30-year-old car. He said: “It happened so quickly to be honest, I didn’t see the log but we narrowly missed a huge rock.

“It was my first forest event and my first event with my co-driver.

“We had a brilliant start to the day, third in class coming into the first service. No problems with the car at all.

“Then we went a bit harder in stages two and three, coming into the second service with a 12-second class lead and sitting 45th overall.”

Tom explained the car has been in his family since 1989, and he has been preparing it for events for the last 10 years. He said: “It was Dad’s old car.

“I have no idea how much money we’ve invested in it since we’ve used my Dad’s old parts to build it.

“He was devastated when he heard about what happened but he told me all the best rally drivers crash at some point.”

The Snowman Rally –named after the usually wintry conditions it takes place in – is the first event of the Scottish Rally Championship 
and is run in forest roads around the Inverness area.

Not Stirling, then?

And not chavs-on-bikes?

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On 28/06/2023 08:03 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A man has died during a vintage car rally after his vehicle, which was more than 100 years old, collided with a lorry on the motorway in Sussex.

"in Sussex"

The 80-year-old and his female passenger, believed to be a married couple, were taking part in Bonham’s London to Brighton Veteran Car Run on Sunday when they took a wrong turn, deviating from the rally’s official route before winding up on the

motorway.

Their 1903 Knox Runabout Old Porcupine – a tiny, open-cabin vehicle with a single-cylinder engine and max speed of 35mph – collided with an HGV near Junction 7 on the southbound M23, outside Hooley, Surrey.
Emergency services arrived shortly after 10am. The man was pronounced dead at the scene. The woman suffered serious head injuries and was airlifted to hospital.
Surrey police confirmed the man’s death in a statement, adding that the next of kin had been notified and asking anyone who witnessed the collision to come forward.

"Hooley, Surrey" ... "Surrey Police"

So... Surrey or Sussex?

Or are you one of those thickos who doesn't know the difference?

More than 400 vehicles dating from before 1905 were due to take part in the run, the oldest motoring event in the world according to its organisers, the Royal Automobile Club.
The rally is held every year to commemorate the 1896 “Emancipation Run”, a celebration of the Locomotives on Highways Act, which bumped the speed limit up to 14mph and allowed motorists to drive without being escorted by an attendant on foot.
The crash comes two years after another fatal accident, in which six people participating in the run were injured when a 1902 Benz collided with four other cars outside Reigate Hill, Surrey.
David Corry, the 68-year-old driver of the vehicle, died from his injuries two days later.

Finally, what's the connection with chavs like yourself cycling on
chav-bikes in Storling?

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On 28/06/2023 10:12 pm, Spike wrote:

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Rally racers cheated death after their car rolled and a huge log crashed
through the windscreen.

22 FEB 2017

Ah yes... but what about the splashes from the water-pistols?

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Friday’s Żuławy Rally ended prematurely with the death of driver Łukasz Semkiw and his co-driver Tomasz Czepukojć who drove into a ditch in the northern Polish town of Błotnik.
“Driving a Honda Civic, the rally participant dropped from the track and rolled into a ditch. The driver and his co-driver died on the spot,” said the provincial police spokesperson Renata Legawiec.

The police are investigating the accident.

“The judges, fans firefighters, an ambulance and Medical Air Rescue helicopter… rushed to help. Unfortunately, despite the immediate safety procedure and rescuers’ efforts, the accident turned out deadly and both men died. We offer our condolences
to the families and friends of the deceased participants,” reads the organiser’s statement.

Due to the tragic event, the rally was terminated.

The Żuławy Rally is a rallycross race for unlicensed, non-sports participants organised by the Marine Automobile Club (Automobilklub Morski) in the northern city of Gdynia. The track runs through the difficult terrain of the Cedry Wielkie municipality
veined with ditches and water drainage. This year 28 participants took part in the event.

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DTG: 12.05.2019, 20:58

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Friday’s Żuławy Rally ended prematurely with the death of driver Łukasz Semkiw and his co-driver Tomasz Czepukojć who drove into a ditch in the northern Polish town of Błotnik.

<snip>

And this is supposed to help the grieving family and friends in what way, exactly?

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Due to the tragic event, the rally was terminated.

They all need to get scrapped - too many get killed.

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On 29/06/2023 11:04 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Due to the tragic event, the rally was terminated.

They all need to get scrapped - too many get killed.

Glad you've come around to that way of thinking.

ALL racing, time-setting, time-trialling, etc on the highway should be
banned, with immediate arrest and vehicle seizure for anyone breaching
the law.

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Welshman Gareth Roberts was killed in an accident during the Targa Florio Rally, 5th round of the 2012 IRC-Intercontinental Rally Challenge, held in province of Palermo, Sicily, Italy. He co-drove to the Irishman Craig Breen the Peugeot 207 S2000 #15,
entered by the Italian team HRT Motorsport.

It happened around 10h40 on the second day of the rally, Sunday, 16 June 2012, eight kilometers after the start of the 8th special stage of the rally, the 18-kilometer all-asphalt "Cefalù-1", from Gratteri to Gibilmanna. On the approach to a left-hand
bend in the small village of Campella, the car driven by Breen went out of control, striking the edge of the guardrail on the right side of the road. The impact destroyed the nose of the car, and a piece of armco entered the cockpit, inflicting severe
injuries to navigator Roberts.

At the moment of the crash, Breen and Roberts were lying 6th overall. The accident was reported to be very similar to the crash that seriously injured Polish Formula 1 driver Robert Kubica in February of 2011, during the Rally Ronde di Andora.

It occurred just in front of a safety post and an emergency team rushed to put out a small fire on the car. The special stage was immediately stopped to enable medical crews to attend the scene but, despite their best efforts, Gareth Roberts succumbed to
his injuries. Death was almost instantaneous. Breen escaped unhurt in the accident.

After the tragedy the remainder of the event was cancelled as a mark of respect.

Gareth Roberts, 24, was born and lived in Bronwydd, near Carmarthen, Wales, and worked as a self-employed electrician. Nicknamed as "Jaffa" Roberts by friends, he started his career in 2004 achieving considerable success in the Ford Fiesta SportTrophy
series, winning the double of UK and Irish championships in 2008, with Elfyn Evans. That same year he scored a 5th in class, 18th place overall, in the Wales Rally GB, then a round of the FIA World Rally Championship, co-driving to Elfyn's father, the
experienced Gwyndaf Evans, a works Mitsubishi Lancer EvoIX Group N.

Gareth Roberts raced alongside his country fellow Matt Beebe in a MG ZR 160 until 2009, when he joined Breen, another young gun making his name in the world rally scene. The pair became firm friends, winning the inaugural FIA World Rally Championship
Academy Cup in 2011. In 2012 Breen-Roberts embarked on a partial IRC-Intercontinental Rally Challenge campaign, finishing a creditable 5th in the Circuit of Ireland and 6th in the Tour de Corse.

Gareth Roberts was survived by his parents and his girlfriend, Holly Yeomans. His elder brother, Dai Roberts, is also a talented rally co-driver. Several days after his death, a memorial was erected at Campella in the place of accident, in his memory.
Craig Breen would lose his life on 13 April 2023 in a testing accident before the Croatia Rally.

Gareth Roberts was involved in another fatal accident almost exactly four year before, during the Donegal International Rally in Ireland held on 14 June 2008, when the spectator Richard O'Donnell was hit and killed by the Ford Fiesta which he co-drove to
the Walesman Elfyn Evans.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Welshman Gareth Roberts was killed in an accident during the Targa Florio Rally, 5th round of the 2012 IRC-Intercontinental Rally Challenge, held
in province of Palermo, Sicily, Italy.

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And this is supposed to help the grieving family and friends in what way, exactly?

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The tragic deaths of rally car spectators are unfortunately a reality. The thrill of a rally car race can lead to some extreme and dangerous circumstances, and unfortunately, sometimes the spectators can become the victims of these events.

The most recent tragedy of a rally car spectator death occurred in 2020 when a 20-year-old man was killed after being hit by a car in the Rally Sweden. The incident happened during the first stage of the race, when the car apparently went off the track
and hit the man as he was standing nearby. Sadly, this is not an isolated incident; similar incidents have occurred in the past.

In 2017, a spectator was killed during the Rally of Portugal when a car went off the track and crashed into the crowd. In 2016, another spectator was killed during the Rally of Finland when a car went off the track and hit several spectators.

The fatalities of these spectators are a stark reminder of why safety measures must be taken at all times during a rally car race. Spectators need to be aware that they are in a dangerous environment and must pay attention to their surroundings. The
drivers also need to be aware of the potential dangers and take extra caution when approaching the spectators.

It is also important for rally car organizers to make sure that spectators are aware of the risks involved and are provided with the necessary safety equipment. Spectators should be wearing protective gear, such as helmets and goggles, and should be
standing a safe distance away from the track.

In the wake of these tragedies, the FIA has implemented additional safety measures to ensure the safety of spectators. The FIA now requires that all rally car race organizers provide detailed safety plans and ensure that all spectators are aware of the
risks involved.

The deaths of these spectators are tragic and serve as a reminder of the dangers of attending a rally car race. While the organizers and drivers have taken steps to ensure that spectators are safe, it is still important for spectators to take their own
safety into consideration.
Rally Car Safety: What We Can Learn from Spectator Fatalities
As rally car racing continues to grow in popularity, it is important to consider the safety of not only the drivers, but also the spectators. Although the sport has come a long way since its inception, there have still been a few instances where
spectators have been killed as a result of a rally car crash.

One of the most tragic incidents happened in 2011 at the Rally of Portugal, where a spectator was killed after being hit by a car driven by Jari-Matti Latvala. The car had spun off the track and into the crowd, and the spectator was unfortunately in the
wrong place at the wrong time.

This incident, along with many others, has led to a greater emphasis on spectator safety. Rally organizers have implemented several measures to help protect those watching from the sidelines, such as increasing the distance between the cars and the
crowds and installing barriers on the sides of the track.

In addition to these physical measures, rally organizers have also implemented a “zero tolerance” policy towards drivers who put spectators at risk. Drivers who are found guilty of endangering spectators are subject to immediate disqualification and
possible suspension from future events.

Rally car racing is an exciting and thrilling sport, but it is important to remember that safety should always come first. By taking the necessary precautions and following the rules, we can ensure that spectators are kept safe and that rally car racing
remains a fun and exciting sport for everyone involved.
The Impact of Spectator Deaths on Rally Car Racing
Rally car racing is a dangerous sport for both drivers and spectators alike. Unfortunately, over the years there have been a number of tragic incidents in which spectators have been killed or injured due to a crash involving a rally car. The impact of
these deaths and injuries on the sport of rally car racing has been immense.

The first recorded instance of a spectator being killed in a rally car crash occurred in 1982 at the Tour de Corse rally in Corsica, France. A car driven by Italian driver Attilio Bettega careened off the road and into a crowd of onlookers, killing four
spectators and injuring a further 10. This tragedy was a major wake up call to the sport and had a profound effect on the way in which rally car racing is regulated and organized.

Since then, organizers have taken a number of steps to improve spectator safety at rallies, including establishing spectator-free zones and greater restrictions on where cars can drive. However, these measures have not been entirely successful, as
evidenced by the death of a spectator in Wales in 2014.

In addition to the physical tragedy of these deaths, spectator fatalities have had a significant impact on the financial success of the sport. As a result of the crash in 2014, the World Rally Championship (WRC) had to cancel two events that were due to
be held in Wales, costing them millions of pounds in lost revenue.

The impact of spectator fatalities on rally car racing has been significant and wide-reaching, and it is clear that organizers must continue to take steps to ensure that spectators are kept as safe as possible while enjoying the thrill of the race.

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