• Funeral date set for teens who died in e-bike crash

    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 20 22:40:38 2023
    The funeral of two teenagers who died in a crash which sparked the Ely riot will take place on 6 July.

    Kyrees Sullivan, 16 and Harvey Evans, 15 were riding a Sur-Ron e-bike and being followed by police van moments before they crashed in Snowden Road, Ely, at about 18:00 BST on 22 May.

    Windsor Clive primary school in Ely will be closing for the day.

    A service for best friends Kyrees Sullivan, 16, and Harvey Evans, 15, will be held at 13:00 BST in the Church of the Resurrection in Grand Avenue in the Ely area of Cardiff, followed by a burial in Western Cemetery.

    A wake had been planned at the Vale Sports Arena but their families later said it would not be held there and are struggling to find a suitable venue, with hundreds of people expected to attend.

    The primary school has told parents it will be closing for the day after holding talks with South Wales Police, Cardiff Council and the church.

    A letter from Windsor Clive headteacher Kim Fisher said: "I have held meetings with various organisations such as the police, Cardiff Council and the church to risk-assess the impact of the funerals on the school's ability to operate safely on Thursday
    6th July.

    "Whilst closing the school is not ideal, this decision has been taken in the best interests of the school and local community on what will be a very emotional time for many."

    After the boys' deaths, tensions between members of the public and police at the scene led to a riot lasting several hours, during which dozens of officers were injured, property was damaged and cars were set alight.

    A total of 20 people have so far been arrested in connection with the riot, and two men were arrested last week in relation to a ride-out to commemorate the teenagers which took place on Saturday 10 June.

    Two officers who were captured on CCTV following the two boys in a marked police van minutes before they died are being investigated for gross misconduct as part of a probe by the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC).

    Meanwhile, the tragedy, along with the recent death of 15-year-old Saul Cookson who crashed his e-bike into an ambulance shortly after being followed by police in Salford, Greater Manchester, has reignited calls for e-bikes to be regulated in the same
    way as other vehicles.

    A Facebook post by a family friend asked that funeral-goers "incorporate something blue" into what they wear.

    "Let's celebrate the lives of these two young boys and come together as one to remember them and show how loved they are."

    A second post said: "It's been asked by the families that absolutely no motorbikes, Sur-Ron's or scooters etc are to be at the funeral as the families have been told the police would have to be made aware and this is the last thing we want.

    "We hope to see you all on the 6th July to celebrate their life and give our boys the best send off they deserve."

    First Minister Mark Drakeford met with community leaders and organisations to look at ways of best supporting the community in future.

    Social justice minister Jane Hutt said on Tuesday morning that they are continuing to develop a plan for the Caerau and Ely areas which will focus on supporting children and young people.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65963649

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 21 08:21:27 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    The funeral of two teenagers who died in a crash which sparked the Ely
    riot will take place on 6 July.

    Kyrees Sullivan, 16 and Harvey Evans, 15 were riding a Sur-Ron e-bike and being followed by police van moments before they crashed in Snowden Road, Ely, at about 18:00 BST on 22 May.

    Windsor Clive primary school in Ely will be closing for the day.

    A service for best friends Kyrees Sullivan, 16, and Harvey Evans, 15,
    will be held at 13:00 BST in the Church of the Resurrection in Grand
    Avenue in the Ely area of Cardiff, followed by a burial in Western Cemetery.

    A wake had been planned at the Vale Sports Arena but their families later said it would not be held there and are struggling to find a suitable
    venue, with hundreds of people expected to attend.

    The primary school has told parents it will be closing for the day after holding talks with South Wales Police, Cardiff Council and the church.

    A letter from Windsor Clive headteacher Kim Fisher said: "I have held meetings with various organisations such as the police, Cardiff Council
    and the church to risk-assess the impact of the funerals on the school's ability to operate safely on Thursday 6th July.

    "Whilst closing the school is not ideal, this decision has been taken in
    the best interests of the school and local community on what will be a
    very emotional time for many."

    After the boys' deaths, tensions between members of the public and police
    at the scene led to a riot lasting several hours, during which dozens of officers were injured, property was damaged and cars were set alight.

    A total of 20 people have so far been arrested in connection with the
    riot, and two men were arrested last week in relation to a ride-out to commemorate the teenagers which took place on Saturday 10 June.

    Two officers who were captured on CCTV following the two boys in a marked police van minutes before they died are being investigated for gross misconduct as part of a probe by the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC).

    Meanwhile, the tragedy, along with the recent death of 15-year-old Saul Cookson who crashed his e-bike into an ambulance shortly after being
    followed by police in Salford, Greater Manchester, has reignited calls
    for e-bikes to be regulated in the same way as other vehicles.

    A Facebook post by a family friend asked that funeral-goers "incorporate something blue" into what they wear.

    "Let's celebrate the lives of these two young boys and come together as
    one to remember them and show how loved they are."

    A second post said: "It's been asked by the families that absolutely no motorbikes, Sur-Ron's or scooters etc are to be at the funeral as the families have been told the police would have to be made aware and this
    is the last thing we want.

    "We hope to see you all on the 6th July to celebrate their life and give
    our boys the best send off they deserve."

    First Minister Mark Drakeford met with community leaders and
    organisations to look at ways of best supporting the community in future.

    Social justice minister Jane Hutt said on Tuesday morning that they are continuing to develop a plan for the Caerau and Ely areas which will
    focus on supporting children and young people.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65963649


    The two mindless thugs should be buried without any publicity.

    The Head who closed the School should be dismissed.

    Drakeford has shown he is an idiot, again.

    He should be telling the ‘community’ their council tax will be increased and benefits stopped to pay for the damage.

    Benefits won’t be restored until culprits are named and in custody.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 21 02:05:37 2023
    QUOTE: Two officers who were captured on CCTV following the two boys in a marked police van minutes before they died are being investigated for gross misconduct as part of a probe by the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC).ENDS

    Well done to the police as they usually "look after their own" as they put it.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Brian on Wed Jun 21 11:07:30 2023
    On 21/06/2023 09:21 am, Brian wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    The funeral of two teenagers who died in a crash which sparked the Ely
    riot will take place on 6 July.

    Kyrees Sullivan, 16 and Harvey Evans, 15 were riding a Sur-Ron e-bike and
    being followed by police van moments before they crashed in Snowden Road,
    Ely, at about 18:00 BST on 22 May.

    Windsor Clive primary school in Ely will be closing for the day.

    A service for best friends Kyrees Sullivan, 16, and Harvey Evans, 15,
    will be held at 13:00 BST in the Church of the Resurrection in Grand
    Avenue in the Ely area of Cardiff, followed by a burial in Western Cemetery. >>
    A wake had been planned at the Vale Sports Arena but their families later
    said it would not be held there and are struggling to find a suitable
    venue, with hundreds of people expected to attend.

    The primary school has told parents it will be closing for the day after
    holding talks with South Wales Police, Cardiff Council and the church.

    A letter from Windsor Clive headteacher Kim Fisher said: "I have held
    meetings with various organisations such as the police, Cardiff Council
    and the church to risk-assess the impact of the funerals on the school's
    ability to operate safely on Thursday 6th July.

    "Whilst closing the school is not ideal, this decision has been taken in
    the best interests of the school and local community on what will be a
    very emotional time for many."

    After the boys' deaths, tensions between members of the public and police
    at the scene led to a riot lasting several hours, during which dozens of
    officers were injured, property was damaged and cars were set alight.

    A total of 20 people have so far been arrested in connection with the
    riot, and two men were arrested last week in relation to a ride-out to
    commemorate the teenagers which took place on Saturday 10 June.

    Two officers who were captured on CCTV following the two boys in a marked
    police van minutes before they died are being investigated for gross
    misconduct as part of a probe by the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC).

    Meanwhile, the tragedy, along with the recent death of 15-year-old Saul
    Cookson who crashed his e-bike into an ambulance shortly after being
    followed by police in Salford, Greater Manchester, has reignited calls
    for e-bikes to be regulated in the same way as other vehicles.

    A Facebook post by a family friend asked that funeral-goers "incorporate
    something blue" into what they wear.

    "Let's celebrate the lives of these two young boys and come together as
    one to remember them and show how loved they are."

    A second post said: "It's been asked by the families that absolutely no
    motorbikes, Sur-Ron's or scooters etc are to be at the funeral as the
    families have been told the police would have to be made aware and this
    is the last thing we want.

    "We hope to see you all on the 6th July to celebrate their life and give
    our boys the best send off they deserve."

    First Minister Mark Drakeford met with community leaders and
    organisations to look at ways of best supporting the community in future.

    Social justice minister Jane Hutt said on Tuesday morning that they are
    continuing to develop a plan for the Caerau and Ely areas which will
    focus on supporting children and young people.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65963649


    The two mindless thugs should be buried without any publicity.

    The Head who closed the School should be dismissed.

    Drakeford has shown he is an idiot, again.

    He should be telling the ‘community’ their council tax will be increased and benefits stopped to pay for the damage.

    I wonder what proportion of that "community" actually pay - or are even
    asked to pay - Council Tax?

    Benefits won’t be restored until culprits are named and in custody.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 21 03:37:19 2023
    On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 10:05:40 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Two officers who were captured on CCTV following the two boys in a marked police van minutes before they died are being investigated for gross misconduct as part of a probe by the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC).ENDS

    Well done to the police as they usually "look after their own" as they put it.

    Of course it took a doorbell video to show that the cops were lying when they said that they not chasing the cyclists in their marked van.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 21 11:06:37 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 10:05:40 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Two officers who were captured on CCTV following the two boys in
    a marked police van minutes before they died are being investigated for
    gross misconduct as part of a probe by the Independent Office of Police
    Conduct (IOPC).ENDS

    Well done to the police as they usually "look after their own" as they put it.

    Of course it took a doorbell video to show that the cops were lying when
    they said that they not chasing the cyclists in their marked van.

    There’s a fundamental difference in the police world between ‘chasing’ (with blues and twos) and following (no blues and twos).

    HTH

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    Spike

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 21 11:01:31 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: Two officers who were captured on CCTV following the two boys in a marked police van minutes before they died are being investigated for
    gross misconduct as part of a probe by the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC).ENDS

    Well done to the police as they usually "look after their own" as they put it.

    The whole point of an investigation into gross misconduct is to get the officers off while being seen to ‘do something’.

    --
    Spike

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 21 06:09:35 2023
    Cardiff riot: New CCTV shows police van following two boys before fatal crash.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR_qo7LHa34

    GOTCHA!

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 21 14:13:34 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Cardiff riot: New CCTV shows police van following two boys before fatal crash.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR_qo7LHa34

    GOTCHA!

    ‘Following’ is not ‘chasing’. GOTCHA!

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    Spike

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 21 08:31:02 2023
    QUOTE: South Wales Police and Crime Commissioner Alun Michael had said officers were not chasing the two teenagers when they were killed in the bike crash. ENDS

    Why was that police van filmed doing just that which made the cops fess up in the end?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 21 16:59:21 2023
    On 21/06/2023 04:31 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: South Wales Police and Crime Commissioner Alun Michael had said officers were not chasing the two teenagers when they were killed in the bike crash. ENDS

    Why was that police van filmed doing just that which made the cops fess up in the end?

    Have you actually READ any of the news reporting about the case?

    Can you, in fact, read and comprehend English?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 21 09:37:01 2023
    QUOTE: A wake had been planned at the Vale Sports Arena but their families later said it would not be held there and are struggling to find a suitable venue, with hundreds of people expected to attend. ENDS

    I understand that the families have said that they don't want any fuzz to attend.
    Sensible move given what happened beforehand.

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