SUCK IT UP, GAMMONS.recklessly jailed for a maximum of two years under the 1861 wanton or furious driving law — will struggle to be passed before the next election, expected to be held in January 2025.
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The introduction of a 'death by dangerous chav-cycling' law, proposed by then-Transport Secretary Grant Shapps last year, is unlikely to be passed before the next general election due to a lack of parliamentary time.
According to The Sunday Telegraph (link is external), the Department for Transport has told campaigners, many of whom are bereaved relatives, that the proposed update to the law — which can currently see a chav-on-a-bike who kills while riding
https://road.cc/content/news/no-death-dangerous-cycling-law-near-future-301831
Secret_squirrel | 3038 posts | 6 hours ago
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So who actually is campaigning for this law change apart from a tiny
number of (rightfully) bitter people who's spouses have died. Does the
size of the problem warrant the parliamentary time needed?
What about all the relatives of someone killed by Careless or Dangerous driving where the culprit doesnt feel the full weight of the law. Dont
those relatives outweigh these ones by something like 300:1?
I know this is victim blaming, but Matthew Briggs should by rights be campaigning for pedestrian helmets as Kim Briggs would most likely have survived hitting her head on the road if she had been wearing one.
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the little onion | 892 posts | 17 hours ago
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Any chance of a "dangerous pedestrian" law? From bitter experience, when
you are injured because a pedestrian ran out in front of you when you are competently cycling along, the police have no recourse to action.
I'm not talking about acts of aggression like killer Auriol Grey, but negligence of people who run out onto the road without looking. Which, as previous cases have shown, can be fatal for cyclists.
We have to convince the world that the 1 or 2 people per year killed by bicycles is a freak accident.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/oct/28/mortality-statistics-causes-death-england-wales-2010
Please send me a better source, but as I undestand it, it is equally or
more likely to get drown, burnt, bitten by a dog or wasps, struck by a lightning, suffocate in bed, cold, bad doctors.
What I don't fully understand is why people want to prosecute so badly cyclists in such rare accidents. Why so many people dislike cyclists? The only I may think that sometimes they can seem to slow down motor traffic
and cycle routes take up space that would be attributed to cars. But when they see a 2m cycle route filled with bicycle don't they undestand how
full roads would be with them having cars instead?
Jimmy Ray Will | 1399 posts | 17 min ago
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I personally struggle to see how a death by dangerous cycling conviction
can be objectively administered when there is currently no legal
obligation for cyclists to fully understand UK road laws.
Unless the act of 'dangerous cycling' is clearly defined and crucially
widely understood, how can a jury fairly convict?
I am sure there will be some cut and dry cases, but this will only be a
small percentage of an already tiny number of fatalities.
I can see a lot of frustrated relatives not getting justice in court, or indeed, a lot (ok tiny number but a large percentage) of conviction
appeals unless there is some significant background work done.
the little onion | 894 posts | 1 hour ago
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Your annual reminder that mobility scooters kill more pedestrians in the
UK than bicycles, but are not VED'd, insured, or have registration plates.
We have to convince the world that the 1 or 2 people per year killed by chav-bicycles is a freak accident.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/oct/28/mortality-statistics-causes-death-england-wales-2010
Please send me a better source, but as I undestand it, it is equally or more likely to get drown, burnt, bitten by a dog or wasps, struck by a lightning, suffocate in bed, cold, bad doctors.
What I don't fully understand is why people want to prosecute so badly chav-cyclists in such rare accidents. Why so many people dislike fairy-cyclists?
joe9090 | 334 posts | 2 hours ago
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Weirdy beardy man still raging at ALL cyclists for the death of his mrs,
who was not looking properly, while crossing the road not at a crossing,
and likely distracted by smartphone use.
I think he needs to move on.
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