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    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 14 06:19:18 2023
    A Conservative councillor from the London Borough of Havering has said that a 1.2 metre wide cycle lane, next to a busy road with drivers encroaching the lane, is “safe” and “easy to cycle”, and encouraged cyclists to be “brave”, despite
    numerous people demonstrating their concerns over using the bike path.

    Councillor David Taylor from Romford, Essex posted an image of Mawney Road and wrote: “Even at rush hour, Romford's Mawney Rd is easy to cycle up thanks to this cycle lane. Drivers are politely keeping out of the lane and the absence of bollards meant
    they could move over when a fire-engine came through.

    “My only criticism is that the cycle path isn't coloured.”

    However, when one cyclist explained why they’d be cautious of using the lane, both while passing a queue of cars as it “puts you right in the passenger door zone”, as well as freely moving traffic as it would “encourage drivers to pass without
    leaving the required 1.5 metres”, Taylor commented: “I'd encourage you to be brave. It's very safe and I cycle it on a regular basis. Cyclists must be alert to opening doors, absolutely.”

    Twitter user the Ranty Highwayman, who lives in the area, went down to assess the state of the cycle lane. After measuring the width, he found it to be barely 1.2 metres, less than the minimum 1.5 metres and way lower than the desired 2 metres. He said
    that the disconnectedness of the cycling network in the area and infrastructure like this result in people being discouraged out of cycling because of the inconvenience and safety risks.

    He also said that assuming Mawney Road must remain a through road due to it carrying a high traffic (data from 2016 shows 14,500 vehicles in a day), then “objectively and obviously, this is not somewhere that most people would find easy to cycle along
    . notwithstanding the network issues around the area.

    He told road.cc: “Romford very much feels like a place for drivers and cycling is an outlier from a cycling as transport point of view,” while also adding that the main issues were not technical but political.

    He added: “Politics is interesting here. It was previously a conservative led administration, but he [Taylor] wasn’t part of it as he was only elected last year when they lost to the Residents Association led administration.

    “The previous administration pretty much did nothing for active travel. He has tweeted like this a lot and talks about being a friend of cycling, so I thought it was fair game to set out the bigger picture.”

    Councillor Taylor claims to cycle but on on many occasions, including this latest exchange, has said that cyclists need to be careful on roads and played down active travellers’ concerns. He is also launching a campaign to save Romford’s High Street
    by engaging against ULEZ and asking for cheaper and more car parking areas.

    Taylor also argued against putting in bollards at the cycle lane, as the drivers “could move over when a fire engine came through”, but when a cycling campaigner pointed that “if fewer people drove even easier for fire engines to get through”, he
    replied: “Yes, if no one owned a car then fire engines would have free use of the roads.”

    Others also remarked that the cycle lane was not fit for cargo bikes or trikes.

    However, Taylor seemed unfazed with the all the concerns and criticisms, replying to people who raised issues of poor driving because of such cycle lanes with “Drivers and cyclists should do better” and that this road is “like any road”. “Every
    road user must be alert at all times. Cyclists, pedestrians, drivers. All,” he said.

    https://road.cc/content/news/romford-councillor-encourages-cyclists-be-brave-cycle-lane-301217

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sun May 14 15:14:33 2023
    On 14/05/2023 02:19 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    A Conservative councillor from the London Borough of Havering has said that a 1.2 metre wide chav-cycle lane, next to a busy road with drivers encroaching the lane, is “safe” and “easy to cycle”, and encouraged chav-cyclists to be “brave”,
    despite numerous people demonstrating their concerns over using the chav-bike path.

    Councillor David Taylor from Romford, Essex posted an image of Mawney Road and wrote: “Even at rush hour, Romford's Mawney Rd is easy to cycle up thanks to this chav-cycle lane. Drivers are politely keeping out of the lane and the absence of bollards
    meant they could move over when a fire-engine came through.

    “My only criticism is that the chav-cycle path isn't coloured.”

    However, when one chav explained why they’d be cautious of using the lane, both while passing a queue of cars as it “puts you right in the passenger door zone”, as well as freely moving traffic as it would “encourage drivers to pass without
    leaving the required 1.5 metres”, Taylor commented: “I'd encourage you to be brave. It's very safe and I cycle it on a regular basis. Chav-cyclists must be alert to opening doors, absolutely.”

    The very same chavs-on-bikes will tell predestrians that they're being hysterical for objecting to being passed by chavs passing them at speed
    on chav-bikes on the footway.

    Can any of them spell "hypocrite"?

    Twitter user the Ranty Highwayman, who lives in the area, went down to assess the state of the chav-cycle lane. After measuring the width, he found it to be barely 1.2 metres, less than the minimum 1.5 metres and way lower than the desired 2 metres. He
    said that the disconnectedness of the chav-cycling network in the area and infrastructure like this result in people being discouraged out of chav-cycling because of the inconvenience and safety risks.

    And of course, what a chav-cyclist says must be scientifically correct,
    right? :-)

    He also said that assuming Mawney Road must remain a through road due to it carrying a high traffic (data from 2016 shows 14,500 vehicles in a day), then “objectively and obviously, this is not somewhere that most people would find easy to cycle
    along”. notwithstanding the network issues around the area.
    He told road.cc: “Romford very much feels like a place for drivers and chav-cycling is an outlier from a chav-cycling as transport point of view,” while also adding that the main issues were not technical but political.
    He added: “Politics is interesting here. It was previously a conservative led administration, but he [Taylor] wasn’t part of it as he was only elected last year when they lost to the Residents Association led administration.
    “The previous administration pretty much did nothing for active travel. He has tweeted like this a lot and talks about being a friend of chav-cycling, so I thought it was fair game to set out the bigger picture.”
    Councillor Taylor claims to cycle but on on many occasions, including this latest exchange, has said that chav-cyclists need to be careful on roads and played down active travellers’ concerns.

    What a thing to say!

    Fancy intimating that chavs on their chav-bikes need to be careful!

    Everyone knows that chav-cyclists absolutely do not have to be careful, anywhere, at any time. And we see them behaving so as to confirm that.

    "Chav-cyclists having to be careful"... the very IDEA!

    He is also launching a campaign to save Romford’s High Street by engaging against ULEZ and asking for cheaper and more car parking areas.
    Taylor also argued against putting in bollards at the chav-cycle lane, as the drivers “could move over when a fire engine came through”, but when a cycling campaigner pointed that “if fewer people drove even easier for fire engines to get through
    , he replied: “Yes, if no one owned a car then fire engines would have free use of the roads.”
    Others also remarked that the chav-cycle lane was not fit for cargo chav-bikes or chav-trikes.
    However, Taylor seemed unfazed with the all the concerns and criticisms, replying to people who raised issues of poor driving because of such chav-cycle lanes with “Drivers and chav-cyclists should do better” and that this road is “like any road
    . “Every road user must be alert at all times. Chav-cyclists, pedestrians, drivers. All,” he said.

    How unreasonable.

    https://road.cc/content/news/romford-councillor-encourages-cyclists-be-brave-cycle-lane-301217

    Oh.. that lot again... the illiterate ignorant writing for illiterate
    and ignorant chavs.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 14 08:23:38 2023
    Cyclists must be alert to opening doors? Most effectively done by staying well out of their way.

    It is actually an offence to open the car door causing danger... the councillor might want to mention that.

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