My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount. Thanks
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount. Thanks
On 16/11/2022 19:07, john curzon wrote:
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount. Thanks
Its down to Co2 emission
A 2L Jaguar 2001 to 2010 has tax rates between £180 and £220 depending
on engine
A 2002 Corolla 1.6 has tax rates between £265 and £330
Obviously you have a more polluting car. The 2L diesel version of your
car has a tax rate of £220.
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On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 7:50:12 PM UTC, alan_m wrote:circular while he is not allowed in without paying a charge.
On 16/11/2022 19:07, john curzon wrote:
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount. Thanks
Its down to Co2 emission
A 2L Jaguar 2001 to 2010 has tax rates between £180 and £220 depending
on engine
A 2002 Corolla 1.6 has tax rates between £265 and £330
Obviously you have a more polluting car. The 2L diesel version of your
car has a tax rate of £220.
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So what doesn't make much sense to me to me is that the neighbour's Diesel Jaguar emission is 152g/km and my petrol corolla is 168g/km so his emission is *lower* than mine. Yet i am allowed in the Ultra Low Emission Zone on the inside of the north
On 16/11/2022 19:07, john curzon wrote:
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he pays
less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what is the
way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount. Thanks
https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/
On 16/11/2022 19:37, Robin wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:07, john curzon wrote:
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he
pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what
is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount.
Thanks
https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/
I had a 2002 Mazda 323F GXi automatic, petrol 1.6L, 205 g/km. The road
tax for that would be £360.
I now have a 2016 Infiniti Q30 1.5 DCi city black, Diesel, 103 g/km.
Road tax £20.
If I had made the mistake of buying a March 2017 onwards model the road
tax would be £165. It is also just new enough to have ULEZ. The Mazda
and Infiniti have very similar performance, same insurance bands, but
CO2 emissions of the Diesel are half of the petrol car.
On 17/11/2022 15:26, Peter Hill wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:37, Robin wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:07, john curzon wrote:
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he
pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what
is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount. Thanks >>>
https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/
I had a 2002 Mazda 323F GXi automatic, petrol 1.6L, 205 g/km. The road
tax for that would be £360.
I now have a 2016 Infiniti Q30 1.5 DCi city black, Diesel, 103 g/km.
Road tax £20.
If I had made the mistake of buying a March 2017 onwards model the
road tax would be £165. It is also just new enough to have ULEZ. The
Mazda and Infiniti have very similar performance, same insurance
bands, but CO2 emissions of the Diesel are half of the petrol car.
A friend has a 2016 with a very low road tax. I think maybe at the time
a car with a stop/start engine (at traffic lights etc.) was mistakenly believed, by politicians, to be less populating. By 2017 the chancellor
had changed his mind.
A friend has a 2016 with a very low road tax. I think maybe at the time
a car with a stop/start engine (at traffic lights etc.) was mistakenly believed, by politicians, to be less populating. By 2017 the chancellor
had changed his mind.
So what doesn't make much sense to me to me is that the neighbour's
Diesel Jaguar emission is 152g/km and my petrol corolla is 168g/km so
his emission is *lower* than mine. Yet i am allowed in the Ultra Low Emission Zone on the inside of the north circular while he is not
allowed in without paying a charge
A friend has a 2016 with a very low road tax. I think maybe at the time
a car with a stop/start engine (at traffic lights etc.) was mistakenly believed, by politicians, to be less populating. By 2017 the chancellor
had changed his mind.
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
A friend has a 2016 with a very low road tax. I think maybe at the time
a car with a stop/start engine (at traffic lights etc.) was mistakenly
believed, by politicians, to be less populating. By 2017 the chancellor
had changed his mind.
The Chancellor (Mr Osborne) changed his mind that VED would be a flat tax irrespective of CO2, which took effect from 2017. You get a £10 discount for having a hybrid and that's it. From 2025 even electric cars will pay
the same rate of VED. (There is an additional £355 VED cost for the first 5 years if the purchase price was >£50k)
It seems like older cars won't be on that scheme, so you can have a new electric car and be paying £165pa, or an old diesel and be paying £20pa.
Theo
But something happened in 2016 where car tax was very low (for some new cars?) for that year, and ongoing for those car. For the same make/model
of car registered a year later the tax rate was lot higher.
On 17/11/2022 15:26, Peter Hill wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:37, Robin wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:07, john curzon wrote:
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he
pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what
is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount.
Thanks
https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/
I had a 2002 Mazda 323F GXi automatic, petrol 1.6L, 205 g/km. The road
tax for that would be £360.
I now have a 2016 Infiniti Q30 1.5 DCi city black, Diesel, 103 g/km.
Road tax £20.
If I had made the mistake of buying a March 2017 onwards model the road
tax would be £165. It is also just new enough to have ULEZ. The Mazda
and Infiniti have very similar performance, same insurance bands, but
CO2 emissions of the Diesel are half of the petrol car.
A friend has a 2016 with a very low road tax. I think maybe at the time
a car with a stop/start engine (at traffic lights etc.) was mistakenly believed, by politicians, to be less populating. By 2017 the chancellor
had changed his mind.
In article <e1841393-541e-4774-b167-bb2635efbe02n@googlegroups.com>,
john curzon <kirbyx95@gmail.com> wrote:
So what doesn't make much sense to me to me is that the neighbour's
Diesel Jaguar emission is 152g/km and my petrol corolla is 168g/km so
his emission is *lower* than mine. Yet i am allowed in the Ultra Low
Emission Zone on the inside of the north circular while he is not
allowed in without paying a charge
Different criteria. VED is based only on CO2 emissions. ULEZ on emissions other than CO2. If the ULEZ was based on CO2, all large vehicles would
fail.
Was in central London the other day. Have to say, the air seemed much
cleaner than when I lived there (to 2005), and seemingly better than Sheffield.
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/11/2022 15:26, Peter Hill wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:37, Robin wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:07, john curzon wrote:
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he
pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what >>>>> is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount.
Thanks
https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/
I had a 2002 Mazda 323F GXi automatic, petrol 1.6L, 205 g/km. The road
tax for that would be £360.
I now have a 2016 Infiniti Q30 1.5 DCi city black, Diesel, 103 g/km.
Road tax £20.
If I had made the mistake of buying a March 2017 onwards model the road
tax would be £165. It is also just new enough to have ULEZ. The Mazda
and Infiniti have very similar performance, same insurance bands, but
CO2 emissions of the Diesel are half of the petrol car.
A friend has a 2016 with a very low road tax. I think maybe at the time
a car with a stop/start engine (at traffic lights etc.) was mistakenly
believed, by politicians, to be less populating. By 2017 the chancellor
had changed his mind.
We had a Smart Car.
As it’s CO2 emissions (98g) were under some limit, it was “tax free”.
Our 4x4 hybrid emits just under half as much CO2 (47g) ( ignoring the electricity power station emissions). It is taxed.
The ULEZ is even more of a joke. We had a Mazda MX5, even though it was a 1999 one, it’s emissions were very low when tested. BUT the model isn’t on
the approved list. There must be countless similar cases. ( ULEZ isn’t CO2 based.)
On 22/11/2022 10:30, Brian wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:ULEZ was introduced 2015. No car before that date will have ULEZ rating.
On 17/11/2022 15:26, Peter Hill wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:37, Robin wrote:
On 16/11/2022 19:07, john curzon wrote:
My 2002 corolla 1.6 L road tax shot up to £265 a year recently.
My Neighbour has a 2005 2.0 litre diesel jaguar. He tells me he >>>>>> pays less than that with his road tax. Is he winding me up or what >>>>>> is the way i can find if DVLA aare charging me the right amount.
Thanks
https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/
I had a 2002 Mazda 323F GXi automatic, petrol 1.6L, 205 g/km. The road >>>> tax for that would be £360.
I now have a 2016 Infiniti Q30 1.5 DCi city black, Diesel, 103 g/km.
Road tax £20.
If I had made the mistake of buying a March 2017 onwards model the road >>>> tax would be £165. It is also just new enough to have ULEZ. The Mazda >>>> and Infiniti have very similar performance, same insurance bands, but
CO2 emissions of the Diesel are half of the petrol car.
A friend has a 2016 with a very low road tax. I think maybe at the time
a car with a stop/start engine (at traffic lights etc.) was mistakenly
believed, by politicians, to be less populating. By 2017 the chancellor
had changed his mind.
We had a Smart Car.
As it’s CO2 emissions (98g) were under some limit, it was “tax free”. >>
Our 4x4 hybrid emits just under half as much CO2 (47g) ( ignoring the
electricity power station emissions). It is taxed.
The ULEZ is even more of a joke. We had a Mazda MX5, even though it was a
1999 one, it’s emissions were very low when tested. BUT the model
isn’t on
the approved list. There must be countless similar cases. ( ULEZ isn’t
CO2
based.)
ULEZ was introduced 2015. No car before that date will have ULEZ rating.
In article <tlnjfm$n2a$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Peter Hill <skyshac@yahoo.com> wrote:
ULEZ was introduced 2015. No car before that date will have ULEZ rating.
Not so. Most petrol cars with catalytic converters are OK - and many from
the 90s. Diesels have to meet a much later Euro standard.
My daily driver (petrol) is OK, and 2011. My brothers newer Audi diesel,
not.
On 24/11/2022 14:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <tlnjfm$n2a$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Peter Hill <skyshac@yahoo.com> wrote:
ULEZ was introduced 2015. No car before that date will have ULEZ rating.
Not so. Most petrol cars with catalytic converters are OK - and many from the 90s. Diesels have to meet a much later Euro standard.
My daily driver (petrol) is OK, and 2011. My brothers newer Audi diesel, not.
I know an acquaintance who uses an old Ford Galaxy to enter ULEZones,
who would normally use a much newer van. From a CO2 POV the van is much cleaner but doesn't have the right credentials for ULEZones!
In article <tlo1kn$m4p1$2@dont-email.me>,
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 24/11/2022 14:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <tlnjfm$n2a$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Peter Hill <skyshac@yahoo.com> wrote:
ULEZ was introduced 2015. No car before that date will have ULEZ rating. >> >Not so. Most petrol cars with catalytic converters are OK - and many from >> > the 90s. Diesels have to meet a much later Euro standard.
My daily driver (petrol) is OK, and 2011. My brothers newer Audi diesel, >> > not.
I know an acquaintance who uses an old Ford Galaxy to enter ULEZones,
who would normally use a much newer van. From a CO2 POV the van is much
cleaner but doesn't have the right credentials for ULEZones!
The VED is based on CO2 output. Basically, you pay more the larger the >engine. With diesels getting the best of the deal.
The ULEZ introduced a couple of years ago is based on harmful emissions - >like CO and NOX etc. Which IIRC are measured as a percentage of all
exhaust gasses - so not penalising larger engines like the VED.
Interesting point. There was consultation before the proposed extension of >the ULEZ to all of London next year. 60% were against it but ignored. Of >course. Since it is all about raising more money through charges and
fines. The existing ULEZ has raised about 100m so far - the extended one
will raise a great deal more, since PT isn't the same alterative outside
the central part for many.
In message <5a4d782e71dave@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> writes
In article <tlo1kn$m4p1$2@dont-email.me>,If they're going to extend the ULEZ to all of London inside the M25,
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 24/11/2022 14:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <tlnjfm$n2a$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Peter Hill <skyshac@yahoo.com> wrote:
ULEZ was introduced 2015. No car before that date will have ULEZ rating. >>>>Not so. Most petrol cars with catalytic converters are OK - and many from >>>> the 90s. Diesels have to meet a much later Euro standard.
My daily driver (petrol) is OK, and 2011. My brothers newer Audi diesel, >>>> not.
I know an acquaintance who uses an old Ford Galaxy to enter ULEZones,
who would normally use a much newer van. From a CO2 POV the van is much
cleaner but doesn't have the right credentials for ULEZones!
The VED is based on CO2 output. Basically, you pay more the larger the
engine. With diesels getting the best of the deal.
The ULEZ introduced a couple of years ago is based on harmful emissions -
like CO and NOX etc. Which IIRC are measured as a percentage of all
exhaust gasses - so not penalising larger engines like the VED.
Interesting point. There was consultation before the proposed extension of >> the ULEZ to all of London next year. 60% were against it but ignored. Of
course. Since it is all about raising more money through charges and
fines. The existing ULEZ has raised about 100m so far - the extended one
will raise a great deal more, since PT isn't the same alterative outside
the central part for many.
they're going to need one hell of a lot more ANPR cameras to check all
the vehicles.
If they're going to extend the ULEZ to all of London inside the M25,
they're going to need one hell of a lot more ANPR cameras to check all the vehicles.
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