On 12/04/2022 11:48, RJH wrote:
.... especially as on my
car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine.
but I am assuming that the sump drain plug is at the bottom somewhere ?
anyway ... what happened to "flushing oil" ?
.... especially as on my
car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine.
But now, my Ford, along with a lot of other current models seems quite
happy on 5W40.
On 12/04/2022 11:48, RJH wrote:
.... especially as on my
car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine.
but I am assuming that the sump drain plug is at the bottom somewhere ?
anyway ... what happened to "flushing oil" ?
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they were a bad idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather some garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially as on my car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they were a bad idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather some garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially as on my car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they were a bad
idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather some
garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially as on my >> car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
Some Smart Cars don’t have a sump drain plug. It became a standard mod to replace the sump with a modified one.
When we bought our Smart Car, it was one of the things I checked, although
I later learned ours was to late to be one of the drainless ones. Smart abandoned the idea.
A lot of the ‘quick oil’ change places in the US suck the old oil out via the dipstick tube- they feed a pipe into the sump.
I’ve seen a few in garages here.
Personally, I don’t think they are a good idea. A quick ‘whoosh’ of warm
oil as you remove the sump plug should ‘carry’ any sludge etc which is laying in the bottom of the sump.
If you try to suck the oil with a thin tube - it needs to be thin to go
down the dipstick tube- at best you may suck up a bit of sludge around
where the end of the tube touches the sump.
Ok, if you change you oil regularly, you shouldn’t get sludge but that is due to flushing it out, which the tube doesn’t.
On 12/04/2022 11:48, RJH wrote:
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they were a bad
idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather some garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially as on my
car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
Well, I suppose it avoids having grovel under the car - but I'd prefer
to let the oil drain by gravity in the time honoured fashion.
In article <jbolduFaap9U1@mid.individual.net>,
mills37.fslife@gmail.com says...
On 12/04/2022 11:48, RJH wrote:
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they were a bad
idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather some >>> garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially as on my
car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
Well, I suppose it avoids having grovel under the car - but I'd prefer
to let the oil drain by gravity in the time honoured fashion.
Try a Fumoto valve. It's a game changer!
Maybe in motorsport.
Maybe in motorsport.
... where I believe a lot of engines use dry sump lubrication ?
On 22 Apr 2022 at 10:27:34 BST, "Mark D" <MD@MD.com> wrote:
Try a Fumoto valve. It's a game changer!
Don't see that as a huge advantage over a sump plug. I'd still have to get under the car and remove the tray. By the time I've done that removing the plug is the easy bit. And I'm not sure I like the idea of the exposed little lever to open it up.
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they were a bad idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather some garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially as on my car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
On 12/04/2022 11:48, RJH wrote:
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they were a bad
idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather some
garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially as on my >> car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
Some of us boat owners have come up with a smarter method of draining
the oil, especially when access to us underside of the sump is problematic:
https://calcuttboatsshop.com/epages/c3a6cb0f-3e0f-4132-9636-974f7502e04d.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/c3a6cb0f-3e0f-4132-9636-974f7502e04d/Products/POSP6
https://www.enginesplus.co.uk/product/sump-pump/
Usually a valve is incorporated in the flexible pipe and the pump hung
on something convenient.
On 25 Apr 2022 at 15:30:38 BST, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 12/04/2022 11:48, RJH wrote:
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they were a bad
idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather some >>> garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially as on my
car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
Some of us boat owners have come up with a smarter method of draining
the oil, especially when access to us underside of the sump is problematic: >>
https://calcuttboatsshop.com/epages/c3a6cb0f-3e0f-4132-9636-974f7502e04d.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/c3a6cb0f-3e0f-4132-9636-974f7502e04d/Products/POSP6
https://www.enginesplus.co.uk/product/sump-pump/
Usually a valve is incorporated in the flexible pipe and the pump hung
on something convenient.
Again, if you're going to get under the car and remove any guards to get access to the drain point, you might as well give a spanner a few turns and remove the sump plug.
At least, I'm assuming that device is somewhere hard to access?
On 25/04/2022 21:43, RJH wrote:
On 25 Apr 2022 at 15:30:38 BST, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 12/04/2022 11:48, RJH wrote:
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought they
were a bad
idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather
some
garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially
as on my
car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views?
Some of us boat owners have come up with a smarter method of draining
the oil, especially when access to us underside of the sump is
problematic:
https://calcuttboatsshop.com/epages/c3a6cb0f-3e0f-4132-9636-974f7502e04d.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/c3a6cb0f-3e0f-4132-9636-974f7502e04d/Products/POSP6
https://www.enginesplus.co.uk/product/sump-pump/
Usually a valve is incorporated in the flexible pipe and the pump hung
on something convenient.
Again, if you're going to get under the car and remove any guards to get
access to the drain point, you might as well give a spanner a few
turns and
remove the sump plug.
At least, I'm assuming that device is somewhere hard to access?
Eh?
This device effective replaces the sump plug with a hose and pump. On a narrowboat the sump is a few cm from the base. You simply place the pump
at some convenient location.
The most difficult part is then replacing the filter.
Have they not heard about remote filter kits?
But it adds at least 4 more joints that can piss oil.
And needs more oil as the hoses to and from the remote filter have to be filled.
On 26/04/2022 02:34, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/04/2022 21:43, RJH wrote:
On 25 Apr 2022 at 15:30:38 BST, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 12/04/2022 11:48, RJH wrote:
I see these were on sale recently at Lidl. I'd always thought theySome of us boat owners have come up with a smarter method of draining
were a bad
idea as you can't be sure you get all the old oil out. But I gather
some
garages use them and it'd certainly make my life easier, especially
as on my
car the oil filter is accessed from the top of the engine. Any views? >>>>
the oil, especially when access to us underside of the sump is
problematic:
https://calcuttboatsshop.com/epages/c3a6cb0f-3e0f-4132-9636-974f7502e04d.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/c3a6cb0f-3e0f-4132-9636-974f7502e04d/Products/POSP6
https://www.enginesplus.co.uk/product/sump-pump/
Usually a valve is incorporated in the flexible pipe and the pump hung >>>> on something convenient.
Again, if you're going to get under the car and remove any guards to get >>> access to the drain point, you might as well give a spanner a few
turns and
remove the sump plug.
At least, I'm assuming that device is somewhere hard to access?
Eh?
This device effective replaces the sump plug with a hose and pump. On
a narrowboat the sump is a few cm from the base. You simply place the
pump at some convenient location.
The most difficult part is then replacing the filter.
Have they not heard about remote filter kits?
But it adds at least 4 more joints that can piss oil.
And needs more oil as the hoses to and from the remote filter have to be filled.
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