• Glowplug Removal

    From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 10 23:03:32 2021
    Gentlemen,

    Any suggestions as to how to get the glowplugs out of an alloy head
    without stripping the treads? I gather they can be problematical.
    I was thinking about putting several hundred amps through them between
    the outer threaded part and the surrounding alloy as an alternative to
    using an induction heater to break the bond, since an IH is useless in
    this situation. But I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not. Anyway,
    your tips welcomed.

    TIA.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Jan 10 23:40:32 2021
    On 10/01/2021 23:03, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Any suggestions as to how to get the glowplugs out of an alloy head
    without stripping the treads? I gather they can be problematical.
    I was thinking about putting several hundred amps through them between
    the outer threaded part and the surrounding alloy as an alternative to
    using an induction heater to break the bond, since an IH is useless in
    this situation. But I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not. Anyway,
    your tips welcomed.

    I've always been successful in removing glowplugs

    Some advocate spraying WD40 and leaving for a couple of days to soak.

    Some advocate going backwards and forwards at the start and when/if it
    gets tight unscrewing.

    Have you got any out? What's the vehicle?

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 11 00:41:20 2021
    On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 23:40:32 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@nospam.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 10/01/2021 23:03, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Any suggestions as to how to get the glowplugs out of an alloy head
    without stripping the treads? I gather they can be problematical.
    I was thinking about putting several hundred amps through them between
    the outer threaded part and the surrounding alloy as an alternative to
    using an induction heater to break the bond, since an IH is useless in
    this situation. But I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not. Anyway,
    your tips welcomed.

    I've always been successful in removing glowplugs

    Some advocate spraying WD40 and leaving for a couple of days to soak.

    I don't have much faith in WD40 as a releasing agent. In fairness to
    the brand, that was never what it was intended for originally. In fact
    I have very little faith in releasing agents in general. One can
    probably do a better job for oneself by mixing IPA with ATF and
    letting that soak in for several days with repeated re-applications.

    Some advocate going backwards and forwards at the start and when/if it
    gets tight unscrewing.

    Have you got any out? What's the vehicle?

    It's a 6 pot Beeme circa 2006, dunno the exact model off hand. M57
    engined, though - that much I do know.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Jan 11 01:00:39 2021
    On 11/01/2021 00:41, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 23:40:32 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@nospam.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 10/01/2021 23:03, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Any suggestions as to how to get the glowplugs out of an alloy head
    without stripping the treads? I gather they can be problematical.
    I was thinking about putting several hundred amps through them between
    the outer threaded part and the surrounding alloy as an alternative to
    using an induction heater to break the bond, since an IH is useless in
    this situation. But I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not. Anyway,
    your tips welcomed.

    I've always been successful in removing glowplugs

    Some advocate spraying WD40 and leaving for a couple of days to soak.

    I don't have much faith in WD40 as a releasing agent. In fairness to
    the brand, that was never what it was intended for originally. In fact
    I have very little faith in releasing agents in general. One can
    probably do a better job for oneself by mixing IPA with ATF and
    letting that soak in for several days with repeated re-applications.

    Some advocate going backwards and forwards at the start and when/if it
    gets tight unscrewing.

    Have you got any out? What's the vehicle?

    It's a 6 pot Beeme circa 2006, dunno the exact model off hand. M57
    engined, though - that much I do know.

    I don't know the car, but feel access might be good? Many advocate best
    to remove hot; where the alloy has expanded more than the glowplug.

    In the unlikely event you do break one would it still be drivable
    without too much reassembly? So many designs require removal of things
    like inlet manifolds. My thought is that there are bespoke tools that
    can remove the plug in stages and even clear the thread without any crap
    going into the cylinder. I'm sure a local garage would be able to do the
    job at a sensible price or a mobile mechanic.

    As I've said I have never broken one, though I guess there can still be
    a first time.

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  • From Peter Hill@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Jan 11 09:41:34 2021
    On 11/01/2021 00:41, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 23:40:32 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@nospam.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 10/01/2021 23:03, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Any suggestions as to how to get the glowplugs out of an alloy head
    without stripping the treads? I gather they can be problematical.
    I was thinking about putting several hundred amps through them between
    the outer threaded part and the surrounding alloy as an alternative to
    using an induction heater to break the bond, since an IH is useless in
    this situation. But I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not. Anyway,
    your tips welcomed.

    I've always been successful in removing glowplugs

    Some advocate spraying WD40 and leaving for a couple of days to soak.

    I don't have much faith in WD40 as a releasing agent. In fairness to
    the brand, that was never what it was intended for originally. In fact
    I have very little faith in releasing agents in general. One can
    probably do a better job for oneself by mixing IPA with ATF and
    letting that soak in for several days with repeated re-applications.

    WD40 can penetrate but is not a releasing agent.

    So follow up with a graphite oil.

    Some advocate going backwards and forwards at the start and when/if it
    gets tight unscrewing.

    Have you got any out? What's the vehicle?

    It's a 6 pot Beeme circa 2006, dunno the exact model off hand. M57
    engined, though - that much I do know.


    Get the engine warm.

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  • From Vin Everett@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Mar 1 13:41:19 2021
    On 10/01/2021 23:03, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Any suggestions as to how to get the glowplugs out of an alloy head
    without stripping the treads? I gather they can be problematical.
    I was thinking about putting several hundred amps through them between
    the outer threaded part and the surrounding alloy as an alternative to
    using an induction heater to break the bond, since an IH is useless in
    this situation. But I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not. Anyway,
    your tips welcomed.

    TIA.


    Get the engine hot 30mins driving, do not exceed 25Nm on a torque wrench
    as this will likely shear the plug. Needless to say get a decent fit
    socket.

    Pre-soak with PB-Blaster or AeroKroil, the night before.

    Good luck.

    Cheers Vin

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