• Water based Paint Question

    From john west@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 29 21:52:47 2021
    Large polystyrene sculpture needs a tough and hard wearing coat of
    paint. Using a Cellulose Based Paint is not a possibility because of the
    small studio space available.

    The idea so far is to use something like a builders concrete sealant put
    first put on the polystyrene and then to apply a water based paint like
    one that is put on to cars these days.

    Does there exist an especially tough and hard water based paint? For
    instance one that we might think is put on to the bumpers of cars or
    something else that needs a hard coat? Grateful for any suggestions.

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  • From Abandoned_Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 30 09:21:56 2021
    On 29/11/2021 21:52, john west wrote:


    Using a Cellulose Based Paint is not a possibility because of the
    small studio space available.



    Dont worry about the small studio space - the acetone based cellulose
    thinner will simply dissolve the polystyrene.

    And I know from personal experience that it makes an awful sticky (and highly inflammable) mess


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  • From Dave Plowman (News)@21:1/5 to john west on Tue Nov 30 11:12:17 2021
    In article <so3i3d$h5j$1@dont-email.me>,
    john west <mail.invalid456@mail.invalid> wrote:
    Does there exist an especially tough and hard water based paint? For
    instance one that we might think is put on to the bumpers of cars or something else that needs a hard coat? Grateful for any suggestions.

    Pretty well all car paint is water based these days. But needs baking on.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to john west on Tue Nov 30 17:53:24 2021
    On 29/11/2021 21:52, john west wrote:

    Large polystyrene sculpture needs a tough and hard wearing coat of
    paint. Using a Cellulose Based Paint is not a possibility because of the small studio space available.

    The idea so far is to use something like a builders concrete sealant put first put on the polystyrene and then to apply a water based paint like
    one that is put on to cars these days.

    Does there exist an especially tough and hard water based paint? For
    instance one that we might think is put on to the bumpers of cars or something else that needs a hard coat?  Grateful for any suggestions.

    If you want something permanent I would have thought 2-pack would be
    best but conscious it might not be compatible with a polystyrene substrate.

    This might you you an idea:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmR3uh2ll1w

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  • From Dave Plowman (News)@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Tue Nov 30 18:35:45 2021
    In article <so5oek$9t4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Fredxx <fredxx@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
    On 29/11/2021 21:52, john west wrote:

    Large polystyrene sculpture needs a tough and hard wearing coat of
    paint. Using a Cellulose Based Paint is not a possibility because of
    the small studio space available.

    The idea so far is to use something like a builders concrete sealant
    put first put on the polystyrene and then to apply a water based
    paint like one that is put on to cars these days.

    Does there exist an especially tough and hard water based paint? For instance one that we might think is put on to the bumpers of cars or something else that needs a hard coat? Grateful for any suggestions.

    If you want something permanent I would have thought 2-pack would be
    best but conscious it might not be compatible with a polystyrene
    substrate.

    And even more dangerous indoors than cellulose?

    This might you you an idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmR3uh2ll1w

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 30 19:12:50 2021
    On 30/11/2021 11:12, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
    In article <so3i3d$h5j$1@dont-email.me>,
    john west <mail.invalid456@mail.invalid> wrote:
    Does there exist an especially tough and hard water based paint? For
    instance one that we might think is put on to the bumpers of cars or
    something else that needs a hard coat? Grateful for any suggestions.

    Pretty well all car paint is water based these days. But needs baking on.


    Only at the factory !.

    Much of the repair business is still wedded to solvent-based paints

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 30 23:19:53 2021
    On 30/11/2021 18:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
    In article <so5oek$9t4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Fredxx <fredxx@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
    On 29/11/2021 21:52, john west wrote:

    Large polystyrene sculpture needs a tough and hard wearing coat of
    paint. Using a Cellulose Based Paint is not a possibility because of
    the small studio space available.

    The idea so far is to use something like a builders concrete sealant
    put first put on the polystyrene and then to apply a water based
    paint like one that is put on to cars these days.

    Does there exist an especially tough and hard water based paint? For
    instance one that we might think is put on to the bumpers of cars or
    something else that needs a hard coat? Grateful for any suggestions.

    If you want something permanent I would have thought 2-pack would be
    best but conscious it might not be compatible with a polystyrene
    substrate.

    And even more dangerous indoors than cellulose?

    If you're worried you can do the work outdoors by waiting for that dry
    sunny day. They do occur occasionally.

    This might you you an idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmR3uh2ll1w

    I would say that PVA was pretty benign, if you went down that route?

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