• Brake pipes on the old SD1

    From Dave Plowman (News)@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 10 13:13:02 2021
    Took the SD1 for an MOT. It ran out last year - the car hasn't been used
    due to Covid.

    Did test everything I could before the test - including doing an emergency stop. All seemed OK.

    On the actual test, a brake pipe split on the brake rollers. Not a hose
    but a steel one. Lucky it happened there, rather on the road.

    There is an absolute rats nest of pipes below the master cylinder - to the front/rear balance valve. And this late car has even more pipework due to
    a different secondary system. All of which well buried. Behind the engine,
    etc, and very difficult to trace.

    Because they were all rusty to some extent, am going to replace the lot. They'll have to be cut off the balance valve as well and truly rusted in
    place.

    Can I find a diagram of the pipe layout/runs? BL manual no help. Parts
    lists only show the early cars. So I'm going to have to draw it out
    myself. The kit of new pipes in Cunifer won't arrive until next week
    anyway.

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    Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to dave@davenoise.co.uk on Sat Jul 10 16:43:32 2021
    On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:13:02 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    Took the SD1 for an MOT. It ran out last year - the car hasn't been
    used due to Covid.

    Did test everything I could before the test - including doing an
    emergency stop. All seemed OK.

    On the actual test, a brake pipe split on the brake rollers. Not a
    hose but a steel one. Lucky it happened there, rather on the road.

    There is an absolute rats nest of pipes below the master cylinder -
    to the front/rear balance valve. And this late car has even more
    pipework due to a different secondary system. All of which well
    buried. Behind the engine, etc, and very difficult to trace.

    Because they were all rusty to some extent, am going to replace the
    lot. They'll have to be cut off the balance valve as well and truly
    rusted in place.

    Can I find a diagram of the pipe layout/runs? BL manual no help. Parts
    lists only show the early cars. So I'm going to have to draw it out
    myself. The kit of new pipes in Cunifer won't arrive until next week
    anyway.


    That sounds like the wiring on my HRG, which a friend had restored
    while I was away in the US. Whoever did the wiring left several
    surprises, such as the turn indicator wiring changing colour at the
    front chassis member J-box. The left signal wire goes to the right
    side, and the left has a piece of wire that must have been found loose
    on the garage floor. I made my own wiring diagram, as you will be doing
    with your brake lines.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Dave Plowman (News)@21:1/5 to Davey on Sat Jul 10 18:34:52 2021
    In article <20210710164332.278acfa0@david-NL40-50CU>,
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:13:02 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    Took the SD1 for an MOT. It ran out last year - the car hasn't been
    used due to Covid.

    Did test everything I could before the test - including doing an
    emergency stop. All seemed OK.

    On the actual test, a brake pipe split on the brake rollers. Not a
    hose but a steel one. Lucky it happened there, rather on the road.

    There is an absolute rats nest of pipes below the master cylinder -
    
    :A@AAnQ

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to dave@davenoise.co.uk on Sat Jul 10 23:50:14 2021
    On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 18:34:52 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <20210710164332.278acfa0@david-NL40-50CU>,
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:13:02 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    Took the SD1 for an MOT. It ran out last year - the car hasn't
    been used due to Covid.

    Did test everything I could before the test - including doing an emergency stop. All seemed OK.

    On the actual test, a brake pipe split on the brake rollers. Not a
    hose but a steel one. Lucky it happened there, rather on the road.

    There is an absolute rats nest of pipes below the master cylinder
    -
    __________
    __:____A@__A__A_nQ

    Maybe I need some different encoding, but that comes up as
    rubbish on my PC.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Dave Plowman (News)@21:1/5 to Davey on Sun Jul 11 00:20:45 2021
    In article <20210710235014.71900d06@david-NL40-50CU>,
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 18:34:52 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <20210710164332.278acfa0@david-NL40-50CU>,
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:13:02 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    Took the SD1 for an MOT. It ran out last year - the car hasn't
    been used due to Covid.

    Did test everything I could before the test - including doing an emergency stop. All seemed OK.

    On the actual test, a brake pipe split on the brake rollers. Not a
    hose but a steel one. Lucky it happened there, rather on the road.

    There is an absolute rats nest of pipes below the master cylinder
    -
    __________
    __:____A@__A__A_nQ

    Maybe I need some different encoding, but that comes up as
    rubbish on my PC.

    I've no idea what happened there.

    This is what I replied:-

    I've been very lucky. On Facebook, someone had taken pics of the pipes
    with the engine out. Which saves me trying to draw them.

    --
    *Indian Driver - Smoke signals only*

    Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to dave@davenoise.co.uk on Sun Jul 11 09:51:49 2021
    On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 00:20:45 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <20210710235014.71900d06@david-NL40-50CU>,
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 18:34:52 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <20210710164332.278acfa0@david-NL40-50CU>,
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:13:02 +0100
    "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

    Took the SD1 for an MOT. It ran out last year - the car
    hasn't been used due to Covid.

    Did test everything I could before the test - including doing
    an emergency stop. All seemed OK.

    On the actual test, a brake pipe split on the brake rollers.
    Not a hose but a steel one. Lucky it happened there, rather
    on the road.

    There is an absolute rats nest of pipes below the master
    cylinder
    -
    __________
    __:____A@__A__A_nQ

    Maybe I need some different encoding, but that comes up as
    rubbish on my PC.

    I've no idea what happened there.

    This is what I replied:-

    I've been very lucky. On Facebook, someone had taken pics of the pipes
    with the engine out. Which saves me trying to draw them.


    That's good
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Dave Plowman (News)@21:1/5 to Davey on Sun Jul 11 11:21:47 2021
    In article <20210710164332.278acfa0@david-NL40-50CU>,
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    That sounds like the wiring on my HRG, which a friend had restored
    while I was away in the US. Whoever did the wiring left several
    surprises, such as the turn indicator wiring changing colour at the
    front chassis member J-box. The left signal wire goes to the right
    side, and the left has a piece of wire that must have been found loose
    on the garage floor. I made my own wiring diagram, as you will be doing
    with your brake lines.

    Most of the wiring diagrams you see for old cars are in black and white -
    and often too small to read detail easily.

    For the SD1, I scanned it and used that as a templet to draw it as a
    vector drawing. With all the wiring in the correct colours. And instead of
    a number which referenced to another page to tell you what was what, the
    names printed beside them. As you can zoom in a vector drawing without it
    going fuzzy. Even when converted to a PDF.

    I'm not surprised the wrong colours were used to extend your loom. Par for
    the course, as few can be bothered to source the correct colours - and of course cut lengths are more expensive than a full reel.

    --
    *I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore I am perfect*

    Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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