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    From Les. Hayward@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 28 12:19:23 2022
    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

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  • From RustyHinge@21:1/5 to Les. Hayward on Wed Dec 28 21:25:04 2022
    On 28/12/2022 12:19, Les. Hayward wrote:
    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

    Try asking BBC World service - it's the sort of thing which would poke
    their curiosity button.

    Failing that, R 5 Live.

    --
    Rusty Hinge
    To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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  • From Anthony R. Gold@21:1/5 to Les. Hayward on Wed Dec 28 21:07:55 2022
    On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 12:19:23 +0000, "Les. Hayward" <les@nospam.null> wrote:

    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

    I presume that they know, so maybe ask them.

    Ukrainian Amateur Radio League UARLinfo@ukr.net

    President: Anatoly Kirilenko, UT3UY Email: ut3uy@ukr.net 

    http://www.uarl.org.ua/index.php/english

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  • From Dave Sergeant@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 29 06:34:13 2022
    In article <tohc8b$6be$1@gioia.aioe.org>, les@nospam.null says...

    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

    I worked plenty of Ukraine stations in CQWW CW last month so assume they
    can.

    73 Dave G3YMC

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  • From Les. Hayward@21:1/5 to Dave Sergeant on Thu Dec 29 09:49:31 2022
    On 29/12/2022 06:34, Dave Sergeant wrote:
    In article <tohc8b$6be$1@gioia.aioe.org>, les@nospam.null says...

    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

    I worked plenty of Ukraine stations in CQWW CW last month so assume they
    can.

    73 Dave G3YMC


    Thanks - I thought that might be the case, as I heard a piece on BBC
    where a chap kept in contact with family via CW. His callsign was
    revealed, so I assume it might be official.

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  • From David Woolley@21:1/5 to Les. Hayward on Thu Dec 29 09:49:43 2022
    On 28/12/2022 12:19, Les. Hayward wrote:
    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

    I half heard a BBC Radio 4 programme about an amateur operator (US7IGN)
    in Kyiv. I haven't listened to the full programme yet, so I don't know
    if the operation is legal, although the blurb does say that, at least at
    one time transmission was forbidden.

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gj61>

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  • From Julian Macassey@21:1/5 to david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid on Sat Dec 31 21:41:31 2022
    On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 09:49:43 +0000, David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2022 12:19, Les. Hayward wrote:
    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

    I half heard a BBC Radio 4 programme about an amateur operator (US7IGN)
    in Kyiv. I haven't listened to the full programme yet, so I don't know
    if the operation is legal, although the blurb does say that, at least at
    one time transmission was forbidden.

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gj61>

    Big secret: Most of the saught after call signs are
    pirate operations, often war torn countries.

    --
    All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and
    the Big Bang Theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of
    Hell. - Paul Broun, US Congress

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  • From Gareth Paley@21:1/5 to Les. Hayward on Thu Jan 5 04:11:13 2023
    On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:53:58 PM UTC, Les. Hayward wrote:
    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

    According to my log I worked Ivan, UT5LI on 40m back on the 23rd November 2021. He confirmed the contact on qrz.com but his address details are withheld on there, I guess for obvious reasons.

    I've heard D1DX a lot on HF. He's definitely a pirate. Apparently the D stands for "Donetsk People's Republic" but of course that is not an officially recognized country - qrz.com certainly doesn't recognise it.

    Not sure if the restriction on amateur radio operations during the war is still in place. If it is there's certainly a lot of Ukrainian amateurs ignoring it.

    73 de M0WWS
    https://www.qrz.com/db/M0WWS

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to Gareth Paley on Thu Jan 5 15:44:40 2023
    In message <d9a180d2-5ba0-4d95-ae63-954a6b668fe6n@googlegroups.com>,
    Gareth Paley <gareth.paley@gmail.com> writes
    On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:53:58 PM UTC, Les. Hayward wrote:
    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine
    at present?

    According to my log I worked Ivan, UT5LI on 40m back on the 23rd
    November 2021. He confirmed the contact on qrz.com but his address
    details are withheld on there, I guess for obvious reasons.

    I've heard D1DX a lot on HF. He's definitely a pirate. Apparently the D >stands for "Donetsk People's Republic" but of course that is not an >officially recognized country - qrz.com certainly doesn't recognise it.

    Not sure if the restriction on amateur radio operations during the war
    is still in place. If it is there's certainly a lot of Ukrainian
    amateurs ignoring it.

    73 de M0WWS
    https://www.qrz.com/db/M0WWS

    After what happened last week to the 89 Russians who ignored the ban on
    mobile phones, I would expect the Ukraine authorities not to be very
    happy with uncontrolled amateur operations.

    If there ARE some amateurs on the air, might they not be club stations,
    where operation can be responsibly supervised? In the good old USSR
    days, while there were a fair number of personal licensees, I believe
    most operated from clubs.
    --
    Ian

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  • From jim.gm4dhj@21:1/5 to Ian Jackson on Thu Jan 5 20:17:49 2023
    On 05/01/2023 15:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
    In message <d9a180d2-5ba0-4d95-ae63-954a6b668fe6n@googlegroups.com>,
    Gareth Paley <gareth.paley@gmail.com> writes
    On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:53:58 PM UTC, Les. Hayward wrote:
    Does anyone know if amateurs are officialy allowed to operate in Ukraine >>> at present?

    According to my log I worked Ivan, UT5LI on 40m back on the 23rd
    November 2021. He confirmed the contact on qrz.com but his address
    details are withheld on there, I guess for obvious reasons.

    I've heard D1DX a lot on HF. He's definitely a pirate. Apparently the
    D stands for "Donetsk People's Republic" but of course that is not an
    officially recognized country - qrz.com certainly doesn't recognise it.

    Not sure if the restriction on amateur radio operations during the war
    is still in place. If it is there's certainly a lot of Ukrainian
    amateurs ignoring it.

    73 de M0WWS
    https://www.qrz.com/db/M0WWS

    After what happened last week to the 89 Russians who ignored the ban on mobile phones, I would expect the Ukraine authorities not to be very
    happy with uncontrolled amateur operations.

    If there ARE some amateurs on the air, might they not be club stations,
    where operation can be responsibly supervised? In the good old USSR
    days, while there were a fair number of personal licensees, I believe
    most operated from clubs.
    yes they didn't have a happy new year

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  • From Anthony R. Gold@21:1/5 to ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk on Thu Jan 5 17:28:29 2023
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:44:40 +0000, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

    After what happened last week to the 89 Russians who ignored the ban on mobile phones, I would expect the Ukraine authorities not to be very
    happy with uncontrolled amateur operations.

    I don't see any equivalence. The location of a large number of Russian
    troops was both secret and a valuable military target. The home address of
    an amateur radio station is publicly available and neither of those.

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  • From Ian Jackson@21:1/5 to not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk on Fri Jan 6 08:22:12 2023
    In message <jajerh5n2v8l77au097plqcc6cg3h6n7nt@4ax.com>, Anthony R. Gold <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> writes
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:44:40 +0000, Ian Jackson ><ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

    After what happened last week to the 89 Russians who ignored the ban on
    mobile phones, I would expect the Ukraine authorities not to be very
    happy with uncontrolled amateur operations.

    I don't see any equivalence. The location of a large number of Russian
    troops was both secret and a valuable military target. The home address of
    an amateur radio station is publicly available and neither of those.

    Operation need not necessarily be from the home address - and in the
    present circumstances, if it does take place, is more likely to be /P or
    /M.
    --
    Ian

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