• Radio licensing for foreigners

    From Jason Evans@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 08:27:37 2021
    Hello all,

    I'm in a bit of predicament. I'm a US HAM who has been living in Europe
    (Czech Republic) for the past 6 year. I'm interested in getting my Czech license but it's not an easy process.

    What does this have to do with the UK? The Czech government requires a
    HAREC in order to provider a reciprocal license. The US government
    doesn't provide those, so it looks like the easiest way to go is to get a
    UK license with a HAREC and then transfer that to CZ so I can get a Czech license. Either that or study Czech for the next 10 years to be able to
    study and take the test here. (My Czech is terrible, BTW and not for lack
    of trying).

    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so? If the remote part
    isn't possible, I can come to the UK without too much expense for a
    weekend to take the exams. It's the possibility of requiring a UK mailing address that I'm concerned about. Then I'll have to bug some of my
    friends in the UK to help me out which I really don't want to do.

    Thanks!

    Jason
    KI4GMX

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to Jason Evans on Tue Sep 14 20:03:54 2021
    On 14/09/2021 09:27, Jason Evans wrote:
    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely

    No

    and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so?

    Yes.

    But there is another complication. In order to get the HAREC licence,
    you need to pass the Foundation, the Intermediate and the Advanced
    licence, plus you need to pass a practical test for the Foundation and
    another practical for the Intermediate, and these have to be done with
    an RSGB local club. So, even if you could theoretically pass all 3 exams
    in one day, you still have to go through the practicals. Unless you know somebody at a RGSB club willing to organize all practicals and tests in
    one day for you (mission practically impossible), I see the whole
    shebang a bit difficult.


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  • From Dave Sergeant@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 15 06:50:08 2021
    In article <shpmdp$2fv$1@theuse.news.theuse.net>, jsevans@mailfence.com
    says...

    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so? If the remote part
    isn't possible, I can come to the UK without too much expense for a
    weekend to take the exams. It's the possibility of requiring a UK mailing address that I'm concerned about. Then I'll have to bug some of my
    friends in the UK to help me out which I really don't want to do.

    Thanks!

    Jason
    KI4GMX

    Contrary to what Ottavio ha posted....

    The RSGB has been conducting remote exams right through the pandemic
    which has now been extended to all licence classes. There is no longer a
    need for the practical tests. How long this will continue now
    restrictions have been removed is unknown but what is certain is that
    the remote exams will become a permanent option.

    What I don't know is whether you need to be resident in the UK to take
    the exams or have a UK address to obtain a HAREC. But the RSGB should be
    able to tell you.

    73 Dave G3YMC

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  • From nev young@21:1/5 to Jason Evans on Wed Sep 15 08:09:07 2021
    On 14/09/2021 09:27, Jason Evans wrote:
    Hello all,

    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so? If the remote part
    isn't possible, I can come to the UK without too much expense for a
    weekend to take the exams. It's the possibility of requiring a UK mailing address that I'm concerned about. Then I'll have to bug some of my
    friends in the UK to help me out which I really don't want to do.

    I remember a few years ago reading an RSGB article about some foreign
    students sitting, and passing, all 3 levels of the exams at the rsgb convention.

    A quick look at the rsgb website (searching for convention and exams)
    suggests that you can (could) apply to do all levels on the one day.

    I'm not sure how the "direct to full" exam is progressing.

    Of course this would depend on there actually being a convention!

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    Nev
    It causes me a great deal of regret and remorse
    that so many people are unable to understand what I write.

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  • From Jeff@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Wed Sep 15 10:23:55 2021
    On 14/09/2021 20:03, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 09:27, Jason Evans wrote:
    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely

    No

     and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so?

    Yes.

    But there is another complication. In order to get the HAREC licence,
    you need to pass the Foundation, the Intermediate and the Advanced
    licence, plus you need to pass a practical test for the Foundation and another practical for the Intermediate, and these have to be done with
    an RSGB local club. So, even if you could theoretically pass all 3 exams
    in one day, you still have to go through the practicals. Unless you know somebody at a RGSB club willing to organize all practicals and tests in
    one day for you (mission practically impossible), I see the whole
    shebang a bit difficult.



    Remote exams have been introduced during covid, and may well stay

    The practical tests have been waived during covid and remote exams conditions, so that is not an issue, at least for a while.

    You should be able to get a UK reciprocal licence on the back of your US
    one as long as you US licence meets the standard for CEPT class 1 (Extra
    or Advanced), however whether that entitles you to a UK issued HAREC I
    don't know.

    Jeff

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  • From David Woolley@21:1/5 to Jason Evans on Wed Sep 15 10:58:05 2021
    On 14/09/2021 09:27, Jason Evans wrote:
    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so? If the remote part
    isn't possible, I can come to the UK without too much expense for a
    weekend to take the exams. It's the possibility of requiring a UK mailing address that I'm concerned about.

    The traditional place for HAREC tourism was Ireland. Apparently people
    from GB used to make day trips for their exams, to do everything in one go.

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  • From RustyHinge@21:1/5 to Dave Sergeant on Wed Sep 15 13:04:43 2021
    On 15/09/2021 06:50, Dave Sergeant wrote:
    In article <shpmdp$2fv$1@theuse.news.theuse.net>, jsevans@mailfence.com says...

    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so? If the remote part
    isn't possible, I can come to the UK without too much expense for a
    weekend to take the exams. It's the possibility of requiring a UK mailing
    address that I'm concerned about. Then I'll have to bug some of my
    friends in the UK to help me out which I really don't want to do.

    Thanks!

    Jason
    KI4GMX

    Contrary to what Ottavio ha posted....

    The RSGB has been conducting remote exams right through the pandemic
    which has now been extended to all licence classes. There is no longer a
    need for the practical tests. How long this will continue now
    restrictions have been removed is unknown but what is certain is that
    the remote exams will become a permanent option.

    What I don't know is whether you need to be resident in the UK to take
    the exams or have a UK address to obtain a HAREC. But the RSGB should be
    able to tell you.

    73 Dave G3YMC

    You can always get an 'accommodation address' in the UK

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  • From Jason Evans@21:1/5 to Dave Sergeant on Wed Sep 15 14:20:54 2021
    On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 06:50:08 +0100, Dave Sergeant wrote:

    The RSGB has been conducting remote exams right through the pandemic
    which has now been extended to all licence classes. There is no longer a
    need for the practical tests. How long this will continue now
    restrictions have been removed is unknown but what is certain is that
    the remote exams will become a permanent option.

    What I don't know is whether you need to be resident in the UK to take
    the exams or have a UK address to obtain a HAREC. But the RSGB should be
    able to tell you.

    73 Dave G3YMC

    Thanks for the info. This is what I'd heard also. I have friends and
    colleagues who might be willing to lend their address for this. I will
    check with the RSGB directly to find out.

    73
    Jason
    KI4GMX

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  • From A. non Eyemouse@21:1/5 to David Woolley on Mon Sep 20 15:29:11 2021
    On 15/09/2021 10:58, David Woolley wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 09:27, Jason Evans wrote:
    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so? If the remote part
    isn't possible, I can come to the UK without too much expense for a
    weekend to take the exams. It's the possibility of requiring a UK mailing
    address that I'm concerned about.

    The traditional place for HAREC tourism was Ireland.  Apparently people
    from GB used to make day trips for their exams, to do everything in one go.

    This sounds like an awfully complicated route to secure the right to
    operate in the Czech Republic, due to the fact they don't have a
    reciprocal licensing agreement with the US. Perhaps the OP should start
    by lobbying his congressman or looking again at the local OK examination process (request an interpreter?), particularly if he has no intention
    of residing in the UK.


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  • From Jason Evans@21:1/5 to A. non Eyemouse on Wed Sep 22 07:47:33 2021
    On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 15:29:11 +0100, A. non Eyemouse wrote:

    This sounds like an awfully complicated route to secure the right to
    operate in the Czech Republic, due to the fact they don't have a
    reciprocal licensing agreement with the US. Perhaps the OP should start
    by lobbying his congressman or looking again at the local OK examination process (request an interpreter?), particularly if he has no intention
    of residing in the UK.

    I had to use an interpreter for my driving license exam so I've been down
    that route before. Finding one who can translate the amount of
    engineering knowledge required for the tests would be difficult to say
    the least. I would rather go through the UK or another English speaking
    country rather and be sure that I can pass it than to go through the
    extra expense and headache to try to pass the Czech exam.

    Jason

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to nev young on Thu Oct 7 06:32:28 2021
    nev young <newsforpasiphae1953@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 09:27, Jason Evans wrote:
    Hello all,

    My question is, is it possible to take the UK exams remotely and will I
    be required to have a UK postal address to do so? If the remote part
    isn't possible, I can come to the UK without too much expense for a
    weekend to take the exams. It's the possibility of requiring a UK mailing
    address that I'm concerned about. Then I'll have to bug some of my
    friends in the UK to help me out which I really don't want to do.

    I remember a few years ago reading an RSGB article about some foreign students sitting, and passing, all 3 levels of the exams at the rsgb convention.

    A quick look at the rsgb website (searching for convention and exams) suggests that you can (could) apply to do all levels on the one day.

    I'm not sure how the "direct to full" exam is progressing.

    Of course this would depend on there actually being a convention!


    That is correct, I used to run then - at least initially. I only recall one overseas amateur doing the exams but there may have been more since.

    We had a few UK ones doing all three but not many.

    I used to arrange, if possible, for UK candidates to do their practical assessments with a local ( to them) assessor. We did a few assessments at
    the conventions but it could get hectic - especially the operating one. The
    HF station tended to be busy and getting time on it wasn’t easy.

    Brian

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  • From Jason Evans@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 8 07:37:15 2021
    On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 08:27:37 -0000 (UTC), Jason Evans wrote:

    I just wanted to give a quick followup. Another American expat Ham in the
    Czech Republic that I've been in contact with has received his UK ticket
    and HAREC remotely. I've got the book set ordered and hopefully I will
    have mine also next year.

    Jason KI4GMX

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