On 07/02/2021 10:44, David Woolley wrote:

On 06/02/2021 17:58, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

My apologies, I meant 30m (10 Mhz) or 20m band (14 Mhz).

Resonant ground planes for those bands, if mounted at roof height, are
going to need planning permission, although I suppose, if the area is
all landlorded, there will probably be no complaints.

Moonraker do helically loaded mobile whips for 30 and 20 that could be
adapted for fixed use, They should be inobtrusive (2m), but as David
says, you'd need to string out some radials.

https://www.moonraker.eu/antennas/ham-amateur-radio-antennas/ampro-30-10mhz-hf-mobile-antenna

https://www.moonraker.eu/antennas/ham-amateur-radio-antennas/ampro-20-14mhz-hf-mobile-antenna

Cheap £23

There may be other suggestions.

Brian GM4DIJ
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On 06/02/2021 17:58, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

My apologies, I meant 30m (10 Mhz) or 20m band (14 Mhz).

Resonant ground planes for those bands, if mounted at roof height, are
going to need planning permission, although I suppose, if the area is
all landlorded, there will probably be no complaints.

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On 07/02/2021 10:44, David Woolley wrote:

On 06/02/2021 17:58, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

My apologies, I meant 30m (10 Mhz) or 20m band (14 Mhz).

Resonant ground planes for those bands, if mounted at roof height, are
going to need planning permission, although I suppose, if the area is
all landlorded, there will probably be no complaints.

Ah, ok. That kills the whole thing.

What about one of those HF stick antennas made for mobile? If I attach
it to the roof, would that require planning permission?

And, any feedback on this:

https://www.radioworld.co.uk/atx-portable-antennas/portable-telescopic-hf-bnc-antenna-designed-for-qrp-radios

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On 07/02/2021 10:44, David Woolley wrote:

On 06/02/2021 17:58, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

My apologies, I meant 30m (10 Mhz) or 20m band (14 Mhz).

Resonant ground planes for those bands, if mounted at roof height, are
going to need planning permission, although I suppose, if the area is
all landlorded, there will probably be no complaints.

Is the only requirement for a planning permission is that the antenna be
at roof height? If I put a very long fishing pole in my garden and keep
it straight in a vertical position with a holder and place a piece of
wire on the pole, will that require a permission from anybody who is not
my landlord?

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In message <s4cnsb$be5$1@dont-email.me>, Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> writes

On 07/02/2021 10:44, David Woolley wrote:

On 06/02/2021 17:58, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

My apologies, I meant 30m (10 Mhz) or 20m band (14 Mhz).

Resonant ground planes for those bands, if mounted at roof height,
are going to need planning permission, although I suppose, if the area
is all landlorded, there will probably be no complaints.

Is the only requirement for a planning permission is that the antenna
be at roof height? If I put a very long fishing pole in my garden and
keep it straight in a vertical position with a holder and place a piece
of wire on the pole, will that require a permission from anybody who is
not my landlord?

I think the maximum height is 3 or 4m ( flagpoles can be higher). You
could take it down when not in use if it's taller. I've done that.

A tree doesn't need planning consent , but you might not want to wait
that long. However there may be one already there you can use.


Brian
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On 06/04/2021 11:03, Brian Howie wrote:

I think the maximum height is 3 or 4m ( flagpoles can be higher).

Is that 3-4 m from the roof or from the ground? Are there national
regulations or will it depend on the council?

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On 07/04/2021 09:46, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

On 06/04/2021 11:03, Brian Howie wrote:

I think the maximum height is 3 or 4m ( flagpoles can be higher).

Is that 3-4 m from the roof or from the ground? Are there national regulations or will it depend on the council?

Free standing on the ground. Check your local authority.

https://rsgb.org/main/operating/planning-matters/

Brian GM4DIJ

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In message <s4mv9m$7bc$1@dont-email.me>, Brian Howie
<nospam@b-howie.co.uk> writes

On 07/04/2021 09:46, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

On 06/04/2021 11:03, Brian Howie wrote:

I think the maximum height is 3 or 4m ( flagpoles can be higher).

Is that 3-4 m from the roof or from the ground? Are there national >>regulations or will it depend on the council?

Free standing on the ground. Check your local authority.

https://rsgb.org/main/operating/planning-matters/

Back in the 80s, when 10m FM with modified CB sets was all the rage, one
of my locals had complaints about a fairly inconspicuous 16' Silver Rod sticking out of the top of a small (10'?) apple tree at the end of a
garden backing onto woodland. IIRC, it would have been OK if he had had
it mounted on the house, as the ruling was 3m above the rooftop or 2m
above a chimney.
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Ian

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