• Re: [MW1CFN] IARU: more crap

    From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sun Dec 26 12:07:42 2021
    On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 18:06:07 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 25 Dec 2021 at 14:25:15 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 25/12/2021 12:33, MW1CFN via rec.radio.amateur.moderated Admin
    wrote:

    Real-World Amateur Radio

    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap

    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html



    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it
    describes as taking control of the future of amateur radio,
    rather than being controlled by the future.

    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried it
    off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which involved a
    large number of member societies, seems to end-up repeating the
    same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths of
    rich, retired white people for decades.
    Consider, for example, this sentence:"Amateur radio is seen to be
    providing social, economic, educational,and other benefits to
    society"Well, at an individual level, I suppose there are
    certainly social and educational benefits. But to society as a
    whole? I'm not so sure. And who does IARU believe 'sees' radio
    to be like this? Certainly not the general public. Using the
    words 'other benefits' is nebulous, and weak.
    If you ask a person in the street, or they come across you whilst
    out portable, amongst the public, then I can very confidently say
    that about 95% of them could not tell you a single thing about
    amateur radio. Most, feeling pressed to say anything at all, will
    tend to blurt-out the words 'CB, is it?' And there, I think, is
    the main battlefront for amateur radio: its sheer unknown-ness to
    the general public.That's not to say the public aren't
    interested; I think they very much are. A lot of retired-age
    people who come to talk to me when they see me out on the coast
    will say how much their young grandchildren would enjoy having a
    go at radio. They go on to say it would be a lot better than
    staring at a mobile phone. Of course, they're absolutely right!
    If you don't slap CB down when the public mention it as something
    they remember from the dim past about radio, then they are much
    more likely to take longer to talk to you about it. I often say
    'I started off after a period with CB.' And that was true for
    very many of us older than about 50 years today. It's also true
    that a fair number of people seeing an antenna will try to see
    what's going on, but won't engage and won't come to ask. They
    mumble with one another that it's probably something illegal, or
    wonder whether the operator has permission to put an antenna up
    in such a beautiful spot. This is almost certainly stoked by the
    idea amongst the public that amateur radio operators are socially
    withdrawn, 'anorak' types who lock themselves away in man-sheds.
    And let's be honest, a lot of us are like that. We may not be
    unfriendly, but we can certainly appear to be. In the UK,
    certainly, amateur radio was widely held for decades by
    participants to set them apart from - and above - the rest of
    society. The need to pass a fairly involved, 90 minute, largely
    electronics-based examination, plus the mystique of knowing Morse
    code, essential until very recently to get onto the HF bands,
    made these people, they imagined, 'special'. A large fraction of
    the radio community back then were well-paid career electronics
    workers who could afford and/or build their ham equipment. This
    just reinforced their separation from the general population.
    These attitudes were quite effective in isolating amateur radio
    from the general public, who were even seen as unwelcome threats
    to the hobby when they came to it via the CB route. IARU goes on,
    inevitably, to claim that:"Amateur radio is seen as a welcoming
    and accessible activity for people of all ages, backgrounds,
    genders, and ethnicities, providing fun, social community and
    personal development" Well, I had to laugh at that!
    Considering that 50% of humanity is female, there are essentially
    no women in amateur radio. Ethnic minorities are seriously
    under-represented in countries like the UK and the US, especially
    when it comes to positions in radio societies. I don't think
    that women and ethnic minorities find amateur radio welcoming at
    all. If they did, they would be participating. I also found the
    following rather odd, to the point of surely being wholly
    false:"Amateur radio has an extensive media presence from its
    accessibility to new entrants to its high value technical and
    scientific contribution".Does it? I can only recall one
    mainstream media article about amateur radio in the past several
    years. Even then, where the BBC tried to present a positive
    image for us, it was entitled 'The very particular world of
    amateur radio'. You can still watch it here, and I'll let you
    sit back, imagine you're a non-amateur radio person, and think:
    'is this really painting a good picture of us, or just
    lightheartedly reinforcing what the public think of us already?'
    Or, maybe more usefully: 'will this encourage more people to rush
    out and join up?'I'm not at all persuaded that IARU has a
    strategy that will work for the future. Reading through their
    list of 'Strategic Objectives', you find that they are not so
    much aims for the future, but simply statements of how some
    contributors to the exercise see amateur radio today - or,
    actually, how it was, a long time ago. This feeling is only made
    worse when you look at the flowchart under 'What happens now?',
    which seems like a recipe for more committees or something.For my
    money, I would make these suggestions to IARU:(1) Recognise that
    the management of radio societies are typically highly skewed in
    terms of ethnicity, age, gender and socio-economic security.
    They are highly unrepresentative of society as a whole, and
    unlikely to understand why people not like them are not joining
    the hobby. Indeed, they are unlikely to perceive, or reject the
    case, that there is any problem at all. The problems begin here.
    (2) The perception of amateur radio that matters isn't found from
    within the existing amateur radio population itself. Rather, to
    ensure the future of amateur radio, and to break down the clear,
    existing barriers to participation, we need to ask the general
    public what they think of us. Only then can we find out where
    the negative impressions of our hobby lie (although many of us
    can readily tell you this!)(3) Stop claiming things about amateur
    radio that have little foundation in reality. More especially,
    stop claiming that a reasonable justification for amateur radio's
    value is found in 'emergency communications'. Of couse, radio
    can provide some relief in emergencies. It's just that, in
    practice, almost nobody involved in the hobby will ever use radio
    in this way. I doubt most people who may be interested in joining
    would want to do so to pretend being some kind of emergency
    responder in a yellow jacket, anyway.(4) The claim that amateur
    radio provides skilled people to industry is almost certainly
    false inasmuch as it is in any way a good reason to support
    radio. We all know that radio is overwhelmingly a hobby of the
    ageing male population. Those aren't working-age people of value
    to industry, although they are by no means without value in terms
    of teaching others, for example.(5) Be honest about where we
    stand. We're seen as rather odd, highly-technical and
    anti-social people who hide away in sheds, surrounded by
    incomprehensible electronic stuff. We won't appeal to a new
    generation of enthusiasts unless we tackle these images first.
    There are plenty of other things to tackle, too. The UK
    regulator, OFCOM, for example, has next-to-no interest in the
    amateur service. A year ago, it imposed complex and wholly
    needless EM safety regulations in response to panic amongst the
    ignorant public about 5G internet. When asked, absolutely
    nobody, including OFCOM, were able to provide scientific evidence
    that provided a basis for their imposition of these ridiculous
    rules. There is no point having a strategy for amateur radio
    when regulators just stamp their feet at random, with no basis
    for their actions, and seemingly nobody being able to challenge
    them.



    wall of text

    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from the
    original html and losing the formatting along the way. It's ok on
    the linked web site.
    what was it about?.... life is too short to read it....

    It's not like you to want an answer handed to you on a plate, Jim.

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Sun Dec 26 13:11:22 2021
    On 26/12/2021 12:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 18:06:07 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 25 Dec 2021 at 14:25:15 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 25/12/2021 12:33, MW1CFN via rec.radio.amateur.moderated Admin
    wrote:

    Real-World Amateur Radio

    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap

    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html



    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it
    describes as taking control of the future of amateur radio,
    rather than being controlled by the future.

    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried it
    off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which involved a
    large number of member societies, seems to end-up repeating the
    same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths of
    rich, retired white people for decades.
    Consider, for example, this sentence:"Amateur radio is seen to be
    providing social, economic, educational,and other benefits to
    society"Well, at an individual level, I suppose there are
    certainly social and educational benefits. But to society as a
    whole? I'm not so sure. And who does IARU believe 'sees' radio
    to be like this? Certainly not the general public. Using the
    words 'other benefits' is nebulous, and weak.
    If you ask a person in the street, or they come across you whilst
    out portable, amongst the public, then I can very confidently say
    that about 95% of them could not tell you a single thing about
    amateur radio. Most, feeling pressed to say anything at all, will
    tend to blurt-out the words 'CB, is it?' And there, I think, is
    the main battlefront for amateur radio: its sheer unknown-ness to
    the general public.That's not to say the public aren't
    interested; I think they very much are. A lot of retired-age
    people who come to talk to me when they see me out on the coast
    will say how much their young grandchildren would enjoy having a
    go at radio. They go on to say it would be a lot better than
    staring at a mobile phone. Of course, they're absolutely right!
    If you don't slap CB down when the public mention it as something
    they remember from the dim past about radio, then they are much
    more likely to take longer to talk to you about it. I often say
    'I started off after a period with CB.' And that was true for
    very many of us older than about 50 years today. It's also true
    that a fair number of people seeing an antenna will try to see
    what's going on, but won't engage and won't come to ask. They
    mumble with one another that it's probably something illegal, or
    wonder whether the operator has permission to put an antenna up
    in such a beautiful spot. This is almost certainly stoked by the
    idea amongst the public that amateur radio operators are socially
    withdrawn, 'anorak' types who lock themselves away in man-sheds.
    And let's be honest, a lot of us are like that. We may not be
    unfriendly, but we can certainly appear to be. In the UK,
    certainly, amateur radio was widely held for decades by
    participants to set them apart from - and above - the rest of
    society. The need to pass a fairly involved, 90 minute, largely
    electronics-based examination, plus the mystique of knowing Morse
    code, essential until very recently to get onto the HF bands,
    made these people, they imagined, 'special'. A large fraction of
    the radio community back then were well-paid career electronics
    workers who could afford and/or build their ham equipment. This
    just reinforced their separation from the general population.
    These attitudes were quite effective in isolating amateur radio
    from the general public, who were even seen as unwelcome threats
    to the hobby when they came to it via the CB route. IARU goes on,
    inevitably, to claim that:"Amateur radio is seen as a welcoming
    and accessible activity for people of all ages, backgrounds,
    genders, and ethnicities, providing fun, social community and
    personal development" Well, I had to laugh at that!
    Considering that 50% of humanity is female, there are essentially
    no women in amateur radio. Ethnic minorities are seriously
    under-represented in countries like the UK and the US, especially
    when it comes to positions in radio societies. I don't think
    that women and ethnic minorities find amateur radio welcoming at
    all. If they did, they would be participating. I also found the
    following rather odd, to the point of surely being wholly
    false:"Amateur radio has an extensive media presence from its
    accessibility to new entrants to its high value technical and
    scientific contribution".Does it? I can only recall one
    mainstream media article about amateur radio in the past several
    years. Even then, where the BBC tried to present a positive
    image for us, it was entitled 'The very particular world of
    amateur radio'. You can still watch it here, and I'll let you
    sit back, imagine you're a non-amateur radio person, and think:
    'is this really painting a good picture of us, or just
    lightheartedly reinforcing what the public think of us already?'
    Or, maybe more usefully: 'will this encourage more people to rush
    out and join up?'I'm not at all persuaded that IARU has a
    strategy that will work for the future. Reading through their
    list of 'Strategic Objectives', you find that they are not so
    much aims for the future, but simply statements of how some
    contributors to the exercise see amateur radio today - or,
    actually, how it was, a long time ago. This feeling is only made
    worse when you look at the flowchart under 'What happens now?',
    which seems like a recipe for more committees or something.For my
    money, I would make these suggestions to IARU:(1) Recognise that
    the management of radio societies are typically highly skewed in
    terms of ethnicity, age, gender and socio-economic security.
    They are highly unrepresentative of society as a whole, and
    unlikely to understand why people not like them are not joining
    the hobby. Indeed, they are unlikely to perceive, or reject the
    case, that there is any problem at all. The problems begin here.
    (2) The perception of amateur radio that matters isn't found from
    within the existing amateur radio population itself. Rather, to
    ensure the future of amateur radio, and to break down the clear,
    existing barriers to participation, we need to ask the general
    public what they think of us. Only then can we find out where
    the negative impressions of our hobby lie (although many of us
    can readily tell you this!)(3) Stop claiming things about amateur
    radio that have little foundation in reality. More especially,
    stop claiming that a reasonable justification for amateur radio's
    value is found in 'emergency communications'. Of couse, radio
    can provide some relief in emergencies. It's just that, in
    practice, almost nobody involved in the hobby will ever use radio
    in this way. I doubt most people who may be interested in joining
    would want to do so to pretend being some kind of emergency
    responder in a yellow jacket, anyway.(4) The claim that amateur
    radio provides skilled people to industry is almost certainly
    false inasmuch as it is in any way a good reason to support
    radio. We all know that radio is overwhelmingly a hobby of the
    ageing male population. Those aren't working-age people of value
    to industry, although they are by no means without value in terms
    of teaching others, for example.(5) Be honest about where we
    stand. We're seen as rather odd, highly-technical and
    anti-social people who hide away in sheds, surrounded by
    incomprehensible electronic stuff. We won't appeal to a new
    generation of enthusiasts unless we tackle these images first.
    There are plenty of other things to tackle, too. The UK
    regulator, OFCOM, for example, has next-to-no interest in the
    amateur service. A year ago, it imposed complex and wholly
    needless EM safety regulations in response to panic amongst the
    ignorant public about 5G internet. When asked, absolutely
    nobody, including OFCOM, were able to provide scientific evidence
    that provided a basis for their imposition of these ridiculous
    rules. There is no point having a strategy for amateur radio
    when regulators just stamp their feet at random, with no basis
    for their actions, and seemingly nobody being able to challenge
    them.



    wall of text

    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from the
    original html and losing the formatting along the way. It's ok on
    the linked web site.
    what was it about?.... life is too short to read it....

    It's not like you to want an answer handed to you on a plate, Jim.

    yes it is

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com on Mon Dec 27 17:22:17 2021
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 09:57:32 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    what is the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say 0.001 %

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Mon Dec 27 17:47:44 2021
    On 27/12/2021 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 09:57:32 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    what is the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say 0.001 %

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    see...a class B

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Mon Dec 27 18:06:15 2021
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:47:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    see...a class B

    One of the best then.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Mon Dec 27 18:16:47 2021
    On 27/12/2021 18:06, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:47:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    see...a class B

    One of the best then.

    not hard

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  • From Custos Custodum@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Mon Dec 27 18:48:08 2021
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:47:44 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 09:57:32 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    what is the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say 0.001 %

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    see...a class B

    "or are they just not interested in a hobby where they can't
    complain about being discriminated against?"

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Mon Dec 27 20:33:16 2021
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
    ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    Real-World Amateur Radio

    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap

    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html

    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it
    describes as taking control of the future of amateur radio,
    rather than being controlled by the future.

    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried
    it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which involved
    a large number of member societies, seems to end-up repeating
    the same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths
    of rich, retired white people for decades.

    <very big snip>

    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from the
    original html and losing the formatting along the way. It's ok
    on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've heard
    coming from the mouths of rich, retired white people for
    decades".


    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens radios ? ....what is
    the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you think it
    is some kind of law of nature?

    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham radio
    then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby where they
    can't complain about being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Tue Dec 28 06:56:27 2021
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
    ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    Real-World Amateur Radio

    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap

    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html

    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it
    describes as taking control of the future of amateur radio,
    rather than being controlled by the future.

    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried
    it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which involved
    a large number of member societies, seems to end-up repeating
    the same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths
    of rich, retired white people for decades.

    <very big snip>

    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from the
    original html and losing the formatting along the way. It's ok
    on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've heard
    coming from the mouths of rich, retired white people for
    decades".


    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens radios ? ....what is
    the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you think it
    is some kind of law of nature?

    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham radio
    then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby where they
    can't complain about being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?


    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 28 06:57:24 2021
    On 28/12/2021 06:56, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
        ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html >>>>>>>>> IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it
    describes  as taking control of the future of amateur radio, >>>>>>>>> rather than being controlled by the future.
    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure  IARU has carried >>>>>>>>> it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which  involved >>>>>>>>> a large number of member societies, seems to end-up repeating >>>>>>>>> the same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths >>>>>>>>> of rich,  retired white people for decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from the
    original html and losing the formatting along the way. It's ok
    on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've heard
    coming from the mouths of rich,  retired white people for
    decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens radios ? ....what is
    the percentage  of UK blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you think it
    is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham radio
    then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby where they
    can't complain about being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?


    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew
    bet she is not a ham

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Tue Dec 28 19:07:32 2021
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
    ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    Real-World Amateur Radio

    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap

    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html

    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it
    describes as taking control of the future of amateur radio, >>>>>>>> rather than being controlled by the future.

    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried >>>>>>>> it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which involved >>>>>>>> a large number of member societies, seems to end-up repeating >>>>>>>> the same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths >>>>>>>> of rich, retired white people for decades.

    <very big snip>

    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from the
    original html and losing the formatting along the way. It's ok
    on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've
    heard coming from the mouths of rich, retired white people for
    decades".


    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens radios ? ....what is
    the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you think it
    is some kind of law of nature?

    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham radio
    then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby where they
    can't complain about being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?


    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and Burt
    both.

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Tue Dec 28 19:31:41 2021
    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
    ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    Real-World Amateur Radio

    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap

    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html

    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it >>>>>>>>>> describes as taking control of the future of amateur radio, >>>>>>>>>> rather than being controlled by the future.

    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried >>>>>>>>>> it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which involved >>>>>>>>>> a large number of member societies, seems to end-up repeating >>>>>>>>>> the same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths >>>>>>>>>> of rich, retired white people for decades.

    <very big snip>

    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from the >>>>>>>> original html and losing the formatting along the way. It's ok >>>>>>>> on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've
    heard coming from the mouths of rich, retired white people for
    decades".


    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens radios ? ....what is
    the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you think it
    is some kind of law of nature?

    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham radio
    then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby where they
    can't complain about being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?


    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and Burt
    both.

    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Tue Dec 28 19:54:21 2021
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
    ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    Real-World Amateur Radio

    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap

    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html >>>>>>>
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it >>>>>>>>>> describes as taking control of the future of amateur
    radio, rather than being controlled by the future.

    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure IARU has
    carried it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise,
    which involved a large number of member societies, seems >>>>>>>>>> to end-up repeating the same old rubbish that we've heard >>>>>>>>>> coming from the mouths of rich, retired white people for >>>>>>>>>> decades.

    <very big snip>

    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from
    the original html and losing the formatting along the way.
    It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've
    heard coming from the mouths of rich, retired white people
    for decades".


    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens radios ? ....what
    is the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say0.001
    %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you think
    it is some kind of law of nature?

    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham
    radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby
    where they can't complain about being discriminated
    against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?


    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and Burt
    both.

    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Custos Custodum on Tue Dec 28 20:33:45 2021
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 18:48:08 +0000
    Custos Custodum <me@privacy.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:47:44 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 09:57:32 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    [...]

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    see...a class B

    "or are they just not interested in a hobby where they can't
    complain about being discriminated against?"

    I don't recall Victor ever saying anything about discrimination.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Tue Dec 28 20:28:18 2021
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
    ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    Real-World Amateur Radio

    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap

    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html >>>>>>>>>
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it >>>>>>>>>>>> describes as taking control of the future of amateur
    radio, rather than being controlled by the future.

    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure IARU has
    carried it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise,
    which involved a large number of member societies, seems >>>>>>>>>>>> to end-up repeating the same old rubbish that we've heard >>>>>>>>>>>> coming from the mouths of rich, retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>> decades.

    <very big snip>

    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from >>>>>>>>>> the original html and losing the formatting along the way. >>>>>>>>>> It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've
    heard coming from the mouths of rich, retired white people
    for decades".


    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens radios ? ....what
    is the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say0.001
    %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you think
    it is some kind of law of nature?

    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham
    radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby
    where they can't complain about being discriminated
    against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?


    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and Burt
    both.

    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Wed Dec 29 08:17:20 2021
    On 28/12/2021 20:33, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 18:48:08 +0000
    Custos Custodum <me@privacy.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:47:44 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 09:57:32 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    [...]

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    see...a class B

    "or are they just not interested in a hobby where they can't
    complain about being discriminated against?"

    I don't recall Victor ever saying anything about discrimination.

    not like the others then

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 29 08:18:24 2021
    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio
    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what it >>>>>>>>>>>>> describes  as taking control of the future of amateur >>>>>>>>>>>>> radio, rather than being controlled by the future.
    This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure  IARU has >>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, >>>>>>>>>>>>> which  involved a large number of member societies, seems >>>>>>>>>>>>> to end-up repeating the same old rubbish that we've heard >>>>>>>>>>>>> coming from the mouths of rich,  retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>> decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from >>>>>>>>>>> the original html and losing the formatting along the way. >>>>>>>>>>> It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've >>>>>>>>>> heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired white people >>>>>>>>>> for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens radios ? ....what >>>>>>>>> is the percentage  of UK blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 >>>>>>>>> %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you think >>>>>>>> it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham
    radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby
    where they can't complain about being discriminated
    against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and Burt
    both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Thu Dec 30 19:58:44 2021
    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it describes  as taking control of the future of amateur >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radio, rather than being controlled by the future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure  IARU has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which  involved a large number of member societies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to end-up repeating the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> white people for decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from >>>>>>>>>>>>> the original html and losing the formatting along the way. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've >>>>>>>>>>>> heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired white people >>>>>>>>>>>> for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens
    radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in the >>>>>>>>>>> hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you
    think it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham >>>>>>>>> radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby
    where they can't complain about being discriminated
    against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and
    Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Thu Dec 30 19:39:27 2021
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with what >>>>>>>>>>>>> it describes  as taking control of the future of amateur >>>>>>>>>>>>> radio, rather than being controlled by the future. >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure  IARU has >>>>>>>>>>>>> carried it off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, >>>>>>>>>>>>> which  involved a large number of member societies, >>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to end-up repeating the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired >>>>>>>>>>>>> white people for decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text from >>>>>>>>>>> the original html and losing the formatting along the way. >>>>>>>>>>> It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that we've >>>>>>>>>> heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired white people >>>>>>>>>> for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens
    radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in the
    hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you
    think it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in ham
    radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a hobby
    where they can't complain about being discriminated
    against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and
    Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jeefaw K Effkay@21:1/5 to Brian Morrison on Fri Dec 31 02:46:57 2021
    On 27/12/2021 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 09:57:32 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvi...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    what is the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say 0.001 %

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    I thought Victor is (was?) Maltese.

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Jeefaw K Effkay on Fri Dec 31 15:03:55 2021
    On 31/12/2021 10:46, Jeefaw K Effkay wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 09:57:32 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvi...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    what is the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say 0.001 %

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    I thought Victor is (was?) Maltese.
    near enough

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Jeefaw K Effkay on Sat Jan 1 02:15:09 2022
    On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 02:46:57 -0800 (PST)
    Jeefaw K Effkay <mike.gathergood@googlemail.com> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 17:22, Brian Morrison wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 09:57:32 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvi...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    what is the percentage of UK blacks in the hobby I would say 0.001 %

    I remember Victor G8EUK with his lovely soft Jamaican accent, been a
    long time since I last spoke to him though.

    I thought Victor is (was?) Maltese.

    Hmm, well I was sure he was who I was thinking of, but maybe the mists
    of time have messed up my memory. I have my old logbooks somewhere but
    not to hand.

    I am sure I remember whoever it was being in West London somewhere, I
    see G8EUK is in the south east of London now.

    Puzzling.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sun Jan 2 18:47:20 2022
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it describes  as taking control of the future of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amateur radio, rather than being controlled by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU has carried it off. Indeed, the outcome of this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise, which  involved a large number of member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies, seems to end-up repeating the same old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich,  retired white people for decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the original html and losing the formatting along >>>>>>>>>>>>> the way. It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired >>>>>>>>>>>> white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens
    radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in the >>>>>>>>>>> hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you >>>>>>>>>> think it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in
    ham radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a
    hobby where they can't complain about being discriminated
    against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and
    Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Mon Jan 3 08:19:49 2022
    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it describes  as taking control of the future of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amateur radio, rather than being controlled by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU has carried it off. Indeed, the outcome of this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise, which  involved a large number of member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies, seems to end-up repeating the same old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubbish that we've heard coming from the mouths of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich,  retired white people for decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the original html and losing the formatting along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the way. It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired >>>>>>>>>>>>>> white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens
    radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you >>>>>>>>>>>> think it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in >>>>>>>>>>> ham radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a >>>>>>>>>>> hobby where they can't complain about being discriminated >>>>>>>>>>> against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you and >>>>>>>> Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Sat Jan 8 12:50:43 2022
    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it describes  as taking control of the future >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of amateur radio, rather than being controlled by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future. This is a very good idea. But I'm not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure IARU has carried it off. Indeed, the outcome >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of this exercise, which  involved a large number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member societies, seems to end-up repeating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich,  retired white people for decades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the original html and losing the formatting along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the way. It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens
    radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in >>>>>>>>>>>>> ham radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> hobby where they can't complain about being discriminated >>>>>>>>>>>>> against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you >>>>>>>>>> and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sat Jan 8 12:35:46 2022
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it describes  as taking control of the future >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of amateur radio, rather than being controlled by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future. This is a very good idea. But I'm not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure IARU has carried it off. Indeed, the outcome >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of this exercise, which  involved a large number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member societies, seems to end-up repeating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich,  retired white people for decades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the original html and losing the formatting along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the way. It's ok on the linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired >>>>>>>>>>>>>> white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens
    radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do you >>>>>>>>>>>> think it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested in >>>>>>>>>>> ham radio then ?.....or are they just not interested in a >>>>>>>>>>> hobby where they can't complain about being discriminated >>>>>>>>>>> against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you
    and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sat Jan 8 16:12:59 2022
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it describes  as taking control of the future >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of amateur radio, rather than being controlled by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future. This is a very good idea. But I'm not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure IARU has carried it off. Indeed, the outcome >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of this exercise, which  involved a large number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of member societies, seems to end-up repeating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich,  retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the linked web >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens
    radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested >>>>>>>>>>>>> in ham radio then ?.....or are they just not interested >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a hobby where they can't complain about being
    discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you >>>>>>>>>> and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on
    here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Sat Jan 8 17:09:03 2022
    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
          ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it describes  as taking control of the future >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of amateur radio, rather than being controlled by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future. This is a very good idea. But I'm not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure IARU has carried it off. Indeed, the outcome >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of this exercise, which  involved a large number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of member societies, seems to end-up repeating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same old rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich,  retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the linked web >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of rich,  retired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens
    radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it is some kind of law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in ham radio then ?.....or are they just not interested >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a hobby where they can't complain about being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - you >>>>>>>>>>>> and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on
    here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and Rylan ....tee hee

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sat Jan 8 17:51:53 2022
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST
    https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what it describes  as taking control of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future of amateur radio, rather than being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by the future. This is a very good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried it off. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved a large number of member societies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to end-up repeating the same old rubbish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we've heard coming from the mouths of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich,  retired white people for decades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the linked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we've heard coming from the mouths of rich, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it is some kind of law of nature? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in ham radio then ?.....or are they just not
    interested in a hobby where they can't complain about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - >>>>>>>>>>>> you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on
    here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and Rylan ....tee hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch adverts?

    Good to see you're mainlining your interest in scat and homosexuality,
    Jim.

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sat Jan 8 19:10:41 2022
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 18:58:51 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what it describes  as taking control of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future of amateur radio, rather than being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by the future. This is a very good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which involved a large number of member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies, seems to end-up repeating the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich,  retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the linked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we've heard coming from the mouths of rich, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you think it is some kind of law of nature? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so whites are to blame for blacks not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in ham radio then ?.....or are they just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not interested in a hobby where they can't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on >>>>>>>>>>>>> here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ... >>>>>>>>>
    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and Rylan ....tee
    hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Only know him from that advert. Is he more damaging to society than a
    weak untrustworthy prime minister, or a fascist nutcase home secretary?


    Good to see you're mainlining your interest in scat and
    homosexuality, Jim.

    no problem burnie ....

    totly...

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Sat Jan 8 18:58:51 2022
    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
    On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what it describes  as taking control of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future of amateur radio, rather than being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by the future. This is a very good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried it off. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved a large number of member societies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to end-up repeating the same old rubbish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we've heard coming from the mouths of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich,  retired white people for decades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the linked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we've heard coming from the mouths of rich, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired white people for decades".

    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it is some kind of law of nature? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so whites are to blame for blacks not being interested >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in ham radio then ?.....or are they just not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in a hobby where they can't complain about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on
    here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and Rylan ....tee hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Good to see you're mainlining your interest in scat and homosexuality,
    Jim.

    no problem burnie ....

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Bernie on Sat Jan 8 19:14:02 2022
    On 08/01/2022 19:10, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 18:58:51 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what it describes  as taking control of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future of amateur radio, rather than being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by the future. This is a very good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which involved a large number of member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies, seems to end-up repeating the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich,  retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the linked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we've heard coming from the mouths of rich, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired white people for decades". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage  of UK blacks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you think it is some kind of law of nature? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so whites are to blame for blacks not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in ham radio then ?.....or are they just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not interested in a hobby where they can't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ... >>>>>>>>>>>
    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and Rylan ....tee
    hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Only know him from that advert. Is he more damaging to society than a
    weak untrustworthy prime minister, or a fascist nutcase home secretary?


    Good to see you're mainlining your interest in scat and
    homosexuality, Jim.

    no problem burnie ....

    totly...

    minted ma man

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to Bernie on Sat Jan 8 20:08:16 2022
    On 8 Jan 2022 at 19:10:41 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 18:58:51 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of late >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what it describes as taking control of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future of amateur radio, rather than being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by the future. This is a very good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea. But I'm not sure IARU has carried it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off. Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which involved a large number of member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies, seems to end-up repeating the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich, retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the linked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old rubbish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we've heard coming from the mouths of rich, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired white people for decades". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage of UK blacks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the hobby I would say0.001 %

    And could that be just the point he is making?? Or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you think it is some kind of law of nature? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so whites are to blame for blacks not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in ham radio then ?.....or are they just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not interested in a hobby where they can't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about being discriminated against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew

    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't it ... >>>>>>>>>>>
    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and Rylan ....tee
    hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Only know him from that advert. Is he more damaging to society than a
    weak untrustworthy prime minister, or a fascist nutcase home secretary?

    Or, while you're on the subject, a attorney general largely opposed to the
    rule of law?




    Good to see you're mainlining your interest in scat and
    homosexuality, Jim.

    no problem burnie ....

    totly...


    --
    Roger Hayter

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Sat Jan 8 20:18:05 2022
    On 8 Jan 2022 20:08:16 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 19:10:41 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 18:58:51 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ""Jim GM4DHJ ...""
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio
    /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late with what it describes as taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control of the future of amateur radio, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than being controlled by the future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU has carried it off. Indeed, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outcome of this exercise, which involved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large number of member societies, seems to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end-up repeating the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich, retired white people for decades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich, retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades".
    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage of UK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And could that be just the point he is making?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or do you think it is some kind of law of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in ham radio then ?.....or are they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just not interested in a hobby where they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain about being discriminated
    against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't
    it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and
    Rylan ....tee hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Only know him from that advert. Is he more damaging to society than
    a weak untrustworthy prime minister, or a fascist nutcase home
    secretary?

    Or, while you're on the subject, a attorney general largely opposed
    to the rule of law?

    Yes, I thought about including that one.

    Burt says it's the Slumberland effect, you know. Sleepwalking into a
    world of shit.

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  • From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to Bernie on Sat Jan 8 20:19:29 2022
    On 8 Jan 2022 at 20:18:05 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 20:08:16 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 19:10:41 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 18:58:51 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late with what it describes as taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control of the future of amateur radio, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than being controlled by the future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a very good idea. But I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU has carried it off. Indeed, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outcome of this exercise, which involved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large number of member societies, seems to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end-up repeating the same old rubbish that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've heard coming from the mouths of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich, retired white people for decades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the text from the original html and losing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatting along the way. It's ok on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich, retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades".
    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage of UK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And could that be just the point he is making?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or do you think it is some kind of law of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in ham radio then ?.....or are they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just not interested in a hobby where they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain about being discriminated
    against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't
    it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and
    Rylan ....tee hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Only know him from that advert. Is he more damaging to society than
    a weak untrustworthy prime minister, or a fascist nutcase home
    secretary?

    Or, while you're on the subject, a attorney general largely opposed
    to the rule of law?

    Yes, I thought about including that one.

    Burt says it's the Slumberland effect, you know. Sleepwalking into a
    world of shit.

    I blame Brexit.

    --
    Roger Hayter

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Sat Jan 8 20:31:04 2022
    On 8 Jan 2022 20:19:29 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 20:18:05 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 20:08:16 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 19:10:41 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 18:58:51 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late with what it describes as taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control of the future of amateur radio, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than being controlled by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. This is a very good idea. But I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure IARU has carried it off. Indeed, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the outcome of this exercise, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved a large number of member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies, seems to end-up repeating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same old rubbish that we've heard coming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the mouths of rich, retired white >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people for decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the text from the original html and losing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the formatting along the way. It's ok on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich, retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades".
    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage of UK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And could that be just the point he is making?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or do you think it is some kind of law of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in ham radio then ?.....or are they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just not interested in a hobby where they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain about being discriminated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
    - you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and
    Rylan ....tee hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch
    adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Only know him from that advert. Is he more damaging to society
    than a weak untrustworthy prime minister, or a fascist nutcase
    home secretary?

    Or, while you're on the subject, a attorney general largely opposed
    to the rule of law?

    Yes, I thought about including that one.

    Burt says it's the Slumberland effect, you know. Sleepwalking into a
    world of shit.

    I blame Brexit.


    I blame organised manipulation and exploitation for profit.

    Oh, and "social" media.

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  • From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to Bernie on Sat Jan 8 22:07:03 2022
    On 8 Jan 2022 at 20:31:04 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 20:19:29 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 20:18:05 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 20:08:16 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 19:10:41 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 18:58:51 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
    On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late with what it describes as taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control of the future of amateur radio, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than being controlled by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. This is a very good idea. But I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure IARU has carried it off. Indeed, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the outcome of this exercise, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved a large number of member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies, seems to end-up repeating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same old rubbish that we've heard coming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the mouths of rich, retired white >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people for decades.

    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for stealing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the text from the original html and losing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the formatting along the way. It's ok on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked web site.

    I gave up when I got to "...the same old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich, retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades".
    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage of UK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And could that be just the point he is making?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or do you think it is some kind of law of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in ham radio then ?.....or are they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just not interested in a hobby where they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain about being discriminated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
    - you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim?


    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and
    Rylan ....tee hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch
    adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Only know him from that advert. Is he more damaging to society
    than a weak untrustworthy prime minister, or a fascist nutcase
    home secretary?

    Or, while you're on the subject, a attorney general largely opposed
    to the rule of law?

    Yes, I thought about including that one.

    Burt says it's the Slumberland effect, you know. Sleepwalking into a
    world of shit.

    I blame Brexit.


    I blame organised manipulation and exploitation for profit.

    Oh, and "social" media.

    I'm unconvinced social media is a net bad thing. It clearly is a bad thing, but maybe not having it would be worse. After all, Murdoch managed
    manipulation quite well before it existed.


    --
    Roger Hayter

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  • From Bernie@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Mon Jan 10 18:00:53 2022
    On 8 Jan 2022 22:07:03 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 20:31:04 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 20:19:29 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 20:18:05 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 20:08:16 GMT
    Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:

    On 8 Jan 2022 at 19:10:41 GMT, "Bernie" <bernie.usenet@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 18:58:51 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 17:51, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:09:03 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 16:12, Bernie wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:50:43 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 08/01/2022 12:35, Bernie wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:49 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 02/01/2022 18:47, Bernie wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:58:44 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 30/12/2021 19:39, Bernie wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:24 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 20:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/12/2021 19:54, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:31:41 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 28/12/2021 19:07, Bernie wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:56:27 +0000
    "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 27/12/2021 20:33, Bernie wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:30:38 +0000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 10:33, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2021 at 09:57:32 GMT, ""Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GM4DHJ ..."" <kinvig.nett@ntlworld.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 09:26, Spike wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/12/2021 15:45, Roger Hayter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ""Jim GM4DHJ ..."" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-World Amateur Radio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IARU: more crap
    Posted: 24 Dec 2021 02:56 AM PST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mw1cfnradio.blogspot.com/2021/12/iaru-more-crap.html
    IARU Region 1 seems to have been busy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late with what it describes as taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control of the future of amateur radio, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than being controlled by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. This is a very good idea. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure IARU has carried it off. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, the outcome of this exercise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which involved a large number of member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies, seems to end-up repeating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same old rubbish that we've heard coming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the mouths of rich, retired white >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people for decades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    <very big snip>
    Blame the rec.radio.info people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stealing the text from the original html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and losing the formatting along the way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ok on the linked web site. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I gave up when I got to "...the same old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubbish that we've heard coming from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouths of rich, retired white people for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades".
    yes what has that got to do with hammy mens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radios ? ....what is the percentage of UK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blacks in the hobby I would say0.001 % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And could that be just the point he is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making?? Or do you think it is some kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law of nature?
    so whites are to blame for blacks not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in ham radio then ?.....or are they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just not interested in a hobby where they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't complain about being discriminated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against ? ....

    Foster-Seeley?

    is that a bed ? ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHJ4xU_3Ew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I reckon you've bean radicalised by the DIYists, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
    - you and Burt both.
    well they are more interesting than the wankers on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.....

    It's mostly you on here, Jim.

    I know sad isn't it ...
    I should pack it in...it is a waste of time isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it ...

    Have you considered kill-filing yourself, Jim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    no

    oh

    dear

    What can the matter be?

    two poofters locked in the lavatory ....

    When did that happen to you, Jim?


    When I couldn't take a dump because of Schofield and
    Rylan ....tee hee

    Had to google Rylan - is that the bloke from the Cinch
    adverts?

    yes that turd....all that is wrong with society.....

    Only know him from that advert. Is he more damaging to society
    than a weak untrustworthy prime minister, or a fascist nutcase
    home secretary?

    Or, while you're on the subject, a attorney general largely
    opposed to the rule of law?

    Yes, I thought about including that one.

    Burt says it's the Slumberland effect, you know. Sleepwalking
    into a world of shit.

    I blame Brexit.


    I blame organised manipulation and exploitation for profit.

    Oh, and "social" media.

    I'm unconvinced social media is a net bad thing. It clearly is a bad
    thing, but maybe not having it would be worse. After all, Murdoch
    managed manipulation quite well before it existed.



    Yes, I suppose that it has opened up large scale emotional manipulation
    to groups who wouldn't have otherwise had the means.

    Dominic Cummins often crows¹ about how clever he was to make use of it.


    ¹ on twitter.

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  • From Brian Morrison@21:1/5 to Bernie on Mon Jan 10 18:28:22 2022
    On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:00:53 +0000
    Bernie <bernie.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yes, I suppose that it has opened up large scale emotional manipulation
    to groups who wouldn't have otherwise had the means.

    Only works if you have enough followers.

    --

    Brian Morrison

    "I am not young enough to know everything"
    Oscar Wilde

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