• My my and old chart from 1974

    From Chris Brown@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 10 14:09:38 2021
    Brought this out to mark the death of Les from the Bay City Rollers. I think there are other interesting things in here.
    As for the song title at 40 though...


    Playlists are here. Including the Sparks video I didn’t know existed. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Tduxrd0d9OkMacZDzQCBq?si=Qp_EZ2l6RtCCWa3R1rwXBA&dl_branch=1
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdiUvgvgpgNrHjz4Y7g50OrOYdSsSy-5e

    Chart dated 11 May 1974

    1. (1) Abba - Waterloo
    2. (27) Rubettes - Sugar Baby Love
    3. (4) The Wombles - Remember You're A Womble
    4. (11) Peters And Lee - Don't Stay Away Too Long
    5. (12) Bay City Rollers - Shang-A-Lang
    6. (9) Wizzard - Rock And Roll Winter
    7. (5) The Chi-Lites - Homely Girl
    8. (6) Limmie And The Family Cookin' - A Walkin' Miracle
    9. (3) Terry Jacks - Seasons In The Sun
    10. (17) Stevie Wonder - He's Misstra Know-It-All
    11. (42) Alvin Stardust - Red Dress
    12. (2) Mud - The Cat Crept In
    13. (14) Mungo Jerry - Long Legged Woman Dressed In Black
    14. (39) Paper Lace - The Night Chicago Died
    15. (8) Diana Ross & Marvin Gaye - You Are Everything
    16. (24) The Osmonds - I Can't Stop
    17. (7) Sunny - Doctor's Orders
    18. (28) Jim Stafford - Spiders And Snakes
    19. (10) The Glitter Band - Angel Face
    20. (16) The Three Degrees - Year Of Decision
    21. (15) Little Jimmy Osmond - I'm Gonna Knock On Your Door
    22. (23) David Bowie - Rock And Roll Suicide
    23. (21) Charlie Rich - Behind Closed Doors
    24. (13) Slade - Everyday
    25. (29) MFSB - TSOP (The Sound Of Philadelphia)
    26. (38) Status Quo - Break The Rules
    27. (48) Sparks - This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both Of Us
    28. (25) Marvin Hamlisch - The Entertainer
    29. (NE) David Cassidy - If I Didn't Care
    30. (30) The Wombles - Wombling Song
    31. (19) Bill Haley And His Comets - Rock Around The Clock
    32. (33) The Intruders - I'll Always Love My Mama
    33. (36) Genesis - I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
    34. (NE) R. Dean Taylor - There's A Ghost In My House
    35. (45) Diana Ross - The Last Time I Saw Him
    36. (32) Harold Melvin & The Bluenotes - Satisfaction Guaranteed
    37. (46) Gigliola Cinquetti - Go (Before You Break My Heart)
    38. (22) Mott The Hoople - The Golden Age Of Rock & Roll
    39. (34) Charlie Rich - The Most Beautiful Girl
    40. (31) Paper Lace - Billy- Don't Be A Hero
    41. (20) Gary Glitter - Remember Me This Way
    42. (43) Mouth And Macneal - I See A Star
    43. (18) Hot Chocolate - Emma
    44. (35) The Carpenters - Jambalaya
    45. (41) Ann Peebles - I Can't Stand The Rain
    46. (NE) David Essex - America
    47. (NE) Cockney Rebel - Judy Teen
    48. (NE) Harry Chapin - W.O.L.D.
    49. (37) Ragtimers - The Sting
    50. (36) Queen - Seven Seas Of Rhye

    Chris

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  • From Vidcapper@21:1/5 to Chris Brown on Tue May 11 06:54:06 2021
    On 10/05/2021 22:09, Chris Brown wrote:
    Brought this out to mark the death of Les from the Bay City Rollers. I think there are other interesting things in here.

    As for the song title at 40 though...

    Yes, what about it?

    Chart dated 11 May 1974

    1. (1) Abba - Waterloo

    3. (4) The Wombles - Remember You're A Womble

    9. (3) Terry Jacks - Seasons In The Sun

    14. (39) Paper Lace - The Night Chicago Died

    With the recent riots there, an appropriate title. :p

    30. (30) The Wombles - Wombling Song
    31. (19) Bill Haley And His Comets - Rock Around The Clock

    40. (31) Paper Lace - Billy- Don't Be A Hero

    Surprising I know *this* many from a 1974 chart (not #14 though).


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    Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

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  • From Mark Goodge@21:1/5 to extreme_rice@yahoo.com on Sun May 16 20:42:21 2021
    On Mon, 10 May 2021 14:09:38 -0700 (PDT), Chris Brown
    <extreme_rice@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Brought this out to mark the death of Les from the Bay City Rollers. I think there are other interesting things in here.
    As for the song title at 40 though...


    Playlists are here. Including the Sparks video I didnt know existed. >https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Tduxrd0d9OkMacZDzQCBq?si=Qp_EZ2l6RtCCWa3R1rwXBA&dl_branch=1
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdiUvgvgpgNrHjz4Y7g50OrOYdSsSy-5e

    Chart dated 11 May 1974

    I remember most of this from the time, although those memories are
    fairly varied ones. IIRC, this was shortly after I'd discovered Radio Luxembourg, so I'm pretty sure I heard some of these on that, although a
    lot of memories are of TotP appearances by these songs.

    I've seen two acts in this chart play live, but several years after this
    chart and neither of them played the song that represents them here.

    1. (1) Abba - Waterloo

    The Eurovision connection, of course. I do remember watching this live
    on TV at the time. You've used the official video in the playlist, but I
    prefer to remember the song from the Eurovision perfomance. Unlike now,
    when everything except the vocals is pre-recorded, back then it was all
    100% live. As the commentator put it, this is the Abba group...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1_OKawHYw

    (Listen out for some classic acidental Partridges in the introduction,
    too, or at least they would have been if Alan Partridge had been a thing
    in 1974).

    2. (27) Rubettes - Sugar Baby Love

    This feels a little odd, because listening to it now it sounds a lot
    older than the 1970s, but on the other hand I do remember hearing it on
    the radio and seeing it on TotP back then.

    3. (4) The Wombles - Remember You're A Womble

    As novelty songs go, this does go pretty well. Although, as has been
    widely remarked previously in this group, the actual musicians behind
    the band took it very seriously indeed.

    4. (11) Peters And Lee - Don't Stay Away Too Long

    I didn't think I remembered this at first when listening to it just now,
    but when the chorus kicked in I realised that I did.

    5. (12) Bay City Rollers - Shang-A-Lang

    They weren't a one-hit wonder, but I doubt many people now would
    remember this without being prompted.

    6. (9) Wizzard - Rock And Roll Winter

    Slightly odd title to be charting in late spring. Although, apparently,
    it was originally scheduled to be released in winter, but got pushed
    back. Not one of their best, though.

    7. (5) The Chi-Lites - Homely Girl

    I don't really remember this, even after listening to it.

    8. (6) Limmie And The Family Cookin' - A Walkin' Miracle

    I do vaguely remember this, but only just.

    9. (3) Terry Jacks - Seasons In The Sun

    I remember this very well, though. It must have had a lot of airplay at
    the time.

    10. (17) Stevie Wonder - He's Misstra Know-It-All

    Don't remember this.

    18. (28) Jim Stafford - Spiders And Snakes

    Bit of an odd song. For some reason I remember this very well from the
    time. DOn't think I've ever heard it since.

    22. (23) David Bowie - Rock And Roll Suicide

    I don't remember this from the time, but of course I know it very well
    now. The majority of Bowie's early stuff passed me by, but - like a lot
    of people of my generation, I suppose - I rediscovered it in the 80s
    following Ashes to Ashes.

    24. (13) Slade - Everyday

    Unusual for Slade, on two fronts - firstly it's a ballad, and, secondly,
    it doesn't have any humorous deliberate misspellings in the title.

    26. (38) Status Quo - Break The Rules

    For a band that's been milking precisely the same formula for decades, a
    song titled "Break the Rules" is veering into Alannis Morrisette levels
    of irony.

    27. (48) Sparks - This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both Of Us

    One of my favourites at the time.

    30. (30) The Wombles - Wombling Song

    See above for previous Womble comments.

    31. (19) Bill Haley And His Comets - Rock Around The Clock

    Not quite sure why this was charting here. Although it is, of course,
    genuinely one of the all-time classics.

    39. (34) Charlie Rich - The Most Beautiful Girl

    I remember this from the time. The time in question, of course, being a
    time when country was still mainstream.

    40. (31) Paper Lace - Billy- Don't Be A Hero

    I also remember this very well from the time. Although I don't get the
    point you're making about the title, either.

    41. (20) Gary Glitter - Remember Me This Way

    Whatever posterity does remember him for, it's very unlikely to be this.

    44. (35) The Carpenters - Jambalaya

    Rather annoyingly, I remember this from the time as well.

    Mark

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  • From Chris Brown@21:1/5 to Mark Goodge on Thu May 20 16:15:43 2021
    On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 8:42:27 PM UTC+1, Mark Goodge wrote:
    On Mon, 10 May 2021 14:09:38 -0700 (PDT), Chris Brown
    <extrem...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Brought this out to mark the death of Les from the Bay City Rollers. I think there are other interesting things in here.
    As for the song title at 40 though...

    Gaaah! Typo!
    I meant 41.

    Playlists are here. Including the Sparks video I didn’t know existed. >https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Tduxrd0d9OkMacZDzQCBq?si=Qp_EZ2l6RtCCWa3R1rwXBA&dl_branch=1
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdiUvgvgpgNrHjz4Y7g50OrOYdSsSy-5e

    Chart dated 11 May 1974
    I remember most of this from the time, although those memories are
    fairly varied ones. IIRC, this was shortly after I'd discovered Radio Luxembourg, so I'm pretty sure I heard some of these on that, although a
    lot of memories are of TotP appearances by these songs.

    I know quite a few of these were on there from looking at YouTube.


    1. (1) Abba - Waterloo
    The Eurovision connection, of course. I do remember watching this live
    on TV at the time. You've used the official video in the playlist, but I prefer to remember the song from the Eurovision perfomance.

    Eurovision clearly earlier in the year in 1974 than 2021.
    It can be a bit of a dilemma which clip to use, I think on this occasion I plumped for the video because it matched the record people were buying.

    Unlike now,
    when everything except the vocals is pre-recorded, back then it was all
    100% live. As the commentator put it, this is the Abba group...

    Now I’m imagining how Mark E. Smith used to say “this is the Fall Group”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1_OKawHYw

    (Listen out for some classic acidental Partridges in the introduction,
    too, or at least they would have been if Alan Partridge had been a thing
    in 1974).

    You can’t get more *accidental* Partridge than before Partridge existed.


    2. (27) Rubettes - Sugar Baby Love
    This feels a little odd, because listening to it now it sounds a lot
    older than the 1970s, but on the other hand I do remember hearing it on
    the radio and seeing it on TotP back then.

    It’s very clear in retrospect that this is effectively an early Four Seasons song (as distinct with beefier production values.

    3. (4) The Wombles - Remember You're A Womble
    As novelty songs go, this does go pretty well. Although, as has been
    widely remarked previously in this group, the actual musicians behind
    the band took it very seriously indeed.

    I suppose the skill and the context are also part of the reason this has been more fondly remembered than Gimme Dat Ding or whatever.


    5. (12) Bay City Rollers - Shang-A-Lang
    They weren't a one-hit wonder, but I doubt many people now would
    remember this without being prompted.

    Well, they might now because of the recent news reports, but even though this is probably the second-most recognisable BCR hit I’d agree if you were asking at any other time.

    6. (9) Wizzard - Rock And Roll Winter
    Slightly odd title to be charting in late spring. Although, apparently,
    it was originally scheduled to be released in winter, but got pushed
    back.

    This is obviously why they wanted it to be Christmas every day, so this song wouldn’t have been out of season.

    Not one of their best, though.

    True.

    7. (5) The Chi-Lites - Homely Girl
    I don't really remember this, even after listening to it.

    I think UB40 did a cover of it. Although that doesn’t narrow it down much I know.

    8. (6) Limmie And The Family Cookin' - A Walkin' Miracle
    I do vaguely remember this, but only just.

    I mainly know of it as a question that comes up Popmaster.

    9. (3) Terry Jacks - Seasons In The Sun
    I remember this very well, though. It must have had a lot of airplay at
    the time.

    Not just at the time, I know it only too well and I wasn’t even born in 1974.

    10. (17) Stevie Wonder - He's Misstra Know-It-All
    Don't remember this.

    It was in that advert where the smug bloke didn’t have any trousers on. At least that’s where I first heard it.

    18. (28) Jim Stafford - Spiders And Snakes
    Bit of an odd song. For some reason I remember this very well from the
    time. DOn't think I've ever heard it since.

    I don’t think I’d heard it until recently (I’m pretty sure it wasn’t on streaming last time I did a chart it was in). It is an odd combination of novelty and contemporary pastiche.

    22. (23) David Bowie - Rock And Roll Suicide
    I don't remember this from the time, but of course I know it very well
    now.

    Of course it’s already a couple of albums old at this point.

    The majority of Bowie's early stuff passed me by, but - like a lot
    of people of my generation, I suppose - I rediscovered it in the 80s following Ashes to Ashes.

    Yeah, and although my Dad was a fan so I must have heard this on the album, it wasn’t until this century I started listening to him properly.

    24. (13) Slade - Everyday
    Unusual for Slade, on two fronts - firstly it's a ballad, and, secondly,
    it doesn't have any humorous deliberate misspellings in the title.

    I think this may even be the point they abandoned the practice, depending on whether you consider “Merry Xmas Everybody” a misspelling.

    26. (38) Status Quo - Break The Rules
    For a band that's been milking precisely the same formula for decades, a song titled "Break the Rules" is veering into Alannis Morrisette levels
    of irony.

    Yes, though more so in retrospect I suppose.

    27. (48) Sparks - This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both Of Us
    One of my favourites at the time.

    You weren’t scared of it like everyone else claims they were.

    30. (30) The Wombles - Wombling Song
    See above for previous Womble comments.

    I think this is the lesser of the two tracks in this chart.

    31. (19) Bill Haley And His Comets - Rock Around The Clock
    Not quite sure why this was charting here.

    It just seemed to be what people did in the 70s. And to be fair, with all the retro glam tracks it doesn’t sound that out of place for a 29-year old track.

    Although it is, of course,
    genuinely one of the all-time classics.

    As much for what it represents as what it is perhaps.

    39. (34) Charlie Rich - The Most Beautiful Girl
    I remember this from the time. The time in question, of course, being a
    time when country was still mainstream.

    I’m not sure whether the launch of an Absolute Country station this week implies it’s becoming more or less mainstream.

    40. (31) Paper Lace - Billy- Don't Be A Hero
    I also remember this very well from the time. Although I don't get the
    point you're making about the title, either.

    See above. But I’m sure there’s some joke you could make somewhere.

    41. (20) Gary Glitter - Remember Me This Way
    Whatever posterity does remember him for, it's very unlikely to be this.

    Exactly.

    44. (35) The Carpenters - Jambalaya
    Rather annoyingly, I remember this from the time as well.

    I think the Carpenters are a bit overrated now, and this is one of their more egregious works.

    Chris

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  • From Mark Goodge@21:1/5 to extreme_rice@yahoo.com on Sat May 22 16:16:35 2021
    On Thu, 20 May 2021 16:15:43 -0700 (PDT), Chris Brown
    <extreme_rice@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 8:42:27 PM UTC+1, Mark Goodge wrote:
    On Mon, 10 May 2021 14:09:38 -0700 (PDT), Chris Brown

    6. (9) Wizzard - Rock And Roll Winter
    Slightly odd title to be charting in late spring. Although, apparently,
    it was originally scheduled to be released in winter, but got pushed
    back.

    This is obviously why they wanted it to be Christmas every day, so this
    song wouldnt have been out of season.

    Most of winter is after Christmas, though.


    30. (30) The Wombles - Wombling Song
    See above for previous Womble comments.

    I think this is the lesser of the two tracks in this chart.

    This was the TV theme, though, and therefore wasn't originally written
    with a single release in mind. Like most TV themes, it works very well
    in the length of time that it takes to roll the titles, but it doesn't
    stretch to a three minute pop song particularly well. But the later
    Wombles songs were written to be consumed as music rather than a theme
    tune, and therefore work better in that context.

    39. (34) Charlie Rich - The Most Beautiful Girl
    I remember this from the time. The time in question, of course, being a
    time when country was still mainstream.

    Im not sure whether the launch of an Absolute Country station this week >implies its becoming more or less mainstream.

    I think it's less mainstream now. While alt-country and cowpunk have
    sufficient crossover value for non-genre radio, most of the sort of
    thing you hear on Absolute Country wouldn't get a look in (or a listen
    in) these days.

    There was actually a good illustration of that earlier this week on
    Absolute Radio. On the breakfast show, they've been playing a song from
    the Absolute Country playlist on the main station as a kind of taster of
    the new station. And one day I happened to catch it, the chosen song was
    'Let Your Love Flow' by The Bellamy Brothers. Now, I remember that from
    when it was a hit in 1976, and it was played on Radio 1 at the time.
    But, even though the main Absolute Radio playlist regularly includes
    songs from the 70s, it sounded incredibly out of place on the breakfast
    show now. Not in a bad way, just not in keeping with the overall vibe of
    the rest of the playlist.

    Mark

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  • From Rink@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 1 21:05:01 2021
    Op 21-5-2021 om 1:15 schreef Chris Brown:
    On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 8:42:27 PM UTC+1, Mark Goodge wrote:
    On Mon, 10 May 2021 14:09:38 -0700 (PDT), Chris Brown
    <extrem...@yahoo.com> wrote:


    1. (1) Abba - Waterloo
    The Eurovision connection, of course. I do remember watching this
    live on TV at the time. You've used the official video in the
    playlist, but I prefer to remember the song from the Eurovision
    perfomance.

    Eurovision clearly earlier in the year in 1974 than 2021. It can be a
    bit of a dilemma which clip to use, I think on this occasion I
    plumped for the video because it matched the record people were
    buying.

    Unlike now, when everything except the vocals is pre-recorded, back
    then it was all 100% live. As the commentator put it, this is the
    Abba group...

    Now I’m imagining how Mark E. Smith used to say “this is the Fall Group”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1_OKawHYw



    And your commentator (BBC I presume) did not know
    who is Benny and who is Bjorn......
    (0:20 and 0:29)

    Nice to see this again!

    Rink

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