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  • This Scots hate bill business ?

    From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 14:49:04 2024
    How does it cover someone in England (say) tweeting about someone in
    Scotland to another person in England ?

    Or someone in the US tweeting to someone in England about someone in
    Scotland ?

    Will Scottish polis be crossing into England in dawn raids for
    transgressors ?

    It's all very perplexing.

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  • From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Mon Apr 1 16:49:15 2024
    On 1 Apr 2024 at 15:49:04 BST, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    How does it cover someone in England (say) tweeting about someone in
    Scotland to another person in England ?

    Or someone in the US tweeting to someone in England about someone in
    Scotland ?

    Will Scottish polis be crossing into England in dawn raids for
    transgressors ?

    It's all very perplexing.

    There is extensive precedent for extraditing people to the US for sending
    nasty things to US computers, so it is not so outlandish if the victim is in Scotland for accessible non-Scots to be charged.


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    Roger Hayter

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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 18:13:28 2024
    On 01/04/2024 15:49, Jethro_uk wrote:
    How does it cover someone in England (say) tweeting about someone in
    Scotland to another person in England ?

    Or someone in the US tweeting to someone in England about someone in
    Scotland ?

    Will Scottish polis be crossing into England in dawn raids for
    transgressors ?

    It's all very perplexing.


    Police Scotland has already said it doesn't have the resources to
    investigate every 'low level' crime, in which they include some
    burglaries as well as criminal damage. I suspect that will, in practice,
    mean they are only really going to take action in the most severe cases
    and most of those are already covered by existing UK wide legislation.

    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From Mark Goodge@21:1/5 to cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk on Mon Apr 1 18:46:44 2024
    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 18:13:28 +0100, Colin Bignell
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 01/04/2024 15:49, Jethro_uk wrote:
    How does it cover someone in England (say) tweeting about someone in
    Scotland to another person in England ?

    Or someone in the US tweeting to someone in England about someone in
    Scotland ?

    Will Scottish polis be crossing into England in dawn raids for
    transgressors ?

    It's all very perplexing.


    Police Scotland has already said it doesn't have the resources to
    investigate every 'low level' crime, in which they include some
    burglaries as well as criminal damage. I suspect that will, in practice,
    mean they are only really going to take action in the most severe cases
    and most of those are already covered by existing UK wide legislation.

    Yes, indeed. Despite both the eager promotion for the new law from its supporters and dire warnings from its detractors, I strongly suspect that it will have minimal practical impact. Without more resources for enforcement, it's just virtue signalling. Something must be done about online abuse, this
    is something, so this is being done.

    Mark

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Mon Apr 1 17:01:58 2024
    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 16:49:15 +0000, Roger Hayter wrote:

    On 1 Apr 2024 at 15:49:04 BST, "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com>
    wrote:

    [quoted text muted]

    There is extensive precedent for extraditing people to the US for
    sending nasty things to US computers,

    But the treaty only works one way though.

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Colin Bignell on Mon Apr 1 19:25:01 2024
    On 01-Apr-24 18:13, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 01/04/2024 15:49, Jethro_uk wrote:
    How does it cover someone in England (say) tweeting about someone in
    Scotland to another person in England ?

    Or someone in the US tweeting to someone in England about someone in
    Scotland ?

    Will Scottish polis be crossing into England in dawn raids for
    transgressors ?

    It's all very perplexing.


    Police Scotland has already said it doesn't have the resources to
    investigate every 'low level' crime, in which they include some
    burglaries as well as criminal damage. I suspect that will, in practice,
    mean they are only really going to take action in the most severe cases
    and most of those are already covered by existing UK wide legislation.

    I know nothing about this particular bill, but that:

    "they are only really going to take action in the most severe cases"
    could often be recast as:

    "they are only really going to take action in cases where the failure to
    act would result in very negative publicity for the Police.

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    Sam Plusnet

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Tue Apr 2 01:00:30 2024
    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 17:01:58 -0000 (UTC)
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 16:49:15 +0000, Roger Hayter wrote:

    On 1 Apr 2024 at 15:49:04 BST, "Jethro_uk"
    <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    [quoted text muted]

    There is extensive precedent for extraditing people to the US for
    sending nasty things to US computers,

    But the treaty only works one way though.


    Exactly.

    --
    Davey.

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