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  • Not While The Train Is Standing In The Station

    From Nick Odell@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 15:58:58 2024
    I saw a new variation on an old theme whilst traveling home yesterday.
    My welcome back to Dear Old Blighty included a train strike and a
    station closure which is how I ended up in a Rail Replacement Bus
    which was a coach being run on behalf of the one train company
    servicing MAN that wasn't on strike.

    Which is where I saw this sign:

    Please do not
    use the toilet whilst the vehicle
    is in motion as
    insurance will be void.
    This is a health and safety
    requirement.

    The toilet in question is in the middle of the coach, to the right as
    you go down the same set of steps that lead to the middle exit.

    Plainly, the coach driver is not going to stop every time a member of
    Urinary Incontinence Club, on their annual outing, asks them so what
    are they supposed to do? Where are they supposed to "go?" (PS I likes
    the way the writer managed to smuggle "motion" into a sign about
    loos.)

    If the vehicle insurance can so easily be voided, how is the coach
    legal to drive on the roads?

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair
    term of contract?

    And either way, how is that a Health and Safety requirement?

    Nick

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Nick Odell on Sun Mar 3 16:23:39 2024
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair
    term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do have
    a toilet, but it's only safe to use when the bus is stationary, then the
    bus company is entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about? If you
    are incontinent, you can always use a pad. Or, take your chance in an
    unsafe toilet. Your choice.






    And either way, how is that a Health and Safety requirement?

    Nick


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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 18:24:37 2024
    On 03/03/2024 16:23, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair
    term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do have
    a toilet, but it's only safe to use when the bus is stationary, then the
    bus company is entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about?  If you
    are incontinent, you can always use a pad.

    I suggest you try using one before recommending them.They have a limited capacity before they leak.

    Or, take your chance in an
    unsafe toilet. Your choice.






    And either way, how is that a Health and Safety requirement?

    Nick




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    Colin Bignell

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  • From nothanks@aolbin.com@21:1/5 to Colin Bignell on Mon Mar 4 13:30:09 2024
    On 03/03/2024 18:24, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 16:23, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair
    term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do
    have a toilet, but it's only safe to use when the bus is stationary,
    then the bus company is entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about?  If
    you are incontinent, you can always use a pad.

    I suggest you try using one before recommending them.They have a limited capacity before they leak.

    Or, take your chance in an unsafe toilet. Your choice.






    And either way, how is that a Health and Safety requirement?

    Nick




    Many years ago, on a ski coach in Austria, the driver announced in
    strongly German-accented English: "... und plees do not use zee toilet.
    Last veek zey used zee toilet und, ven I braked, zee durties came all ze
    vay down ze bus" ... we nearly wet ourselves from laughing.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Colin Bignell on Tue Mar 5 12:43:24 2024
    On 03/03/2024 18:24, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 16:23, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair
    term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do
    have a toilet, but it's only safe to use when the bus is stationary,
    then the bus company is entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about?  If
    you are incontinent, you can always use a pad.

    I suggest you try using one before recommending them.They have a limited capacity before they leak.

    I haven't had to use one (yet), but Age UK claim a capacity of up to 3.5
    litres for some of theirs.

    https://www.ageukincontinence.co.uk/incontinence-shop/disposable-incontinence-products/large-shaped-pads.html












    Or, take your chance in an unsafe toilet. Your choice.






    And either way, how is that a Health and Safety requirement?

    Nick





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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 13:46:46 2024
    On 05/03/2024 12:43, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 18:24, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 16:23, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair
    term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do
    have a toilet, but it's only safe to use when the bus is stationary,
    then the bus company is entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about?  If
    you are incontinent, you can always use a pad.

    I suggest you try using one before recommending them.They have a
    limited capacity before they leak.

    I haven't had to use one (yet), but Age UK claim a capacity of up to 3.5 litres for some of theirs.

    https://www.ageukincontinence.co.uk/incontinence-shop/disposable-incontinence-products/large-shaped-pads.html


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TGv9YftAWQ

    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Colin Bignell on Tue Mar 5 14:20:48 2024
    On 05/03/2024 13:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 05/03/2024 12:43, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 18:24, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 16:23, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair >>>>> term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do
    have a toilet, but it's only safe to use when the bus is stationary,
    then the bus company is entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about?  If
    you are incontinent, you can always use a pad.

    I suggest you try using one before recommending them.They have a
    limited capacity before they leak.

    I haven't had to use one (yet), but Age UK claim a capacity of up to
    3.5 litres for some of theirs.

    https://www.ageukincontinence.co.uk/incontinence-shop/disposable-incontinence-products/large-shaped-pads.html


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TGv9YftAWQ


    I'm afraid that there are a couple of comics I cannot stand watching,
    and he's on the list.

    I managed around half a minute of that video, during which he literally
    laughed at incontinent people. Given his various serious ailments, I
    suspect that he's a keen user of incontinence pads himself, now.

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  • From Norman Wells@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 15:43:04 2024
    On 05/03/2024 14:20, GB wrote:
    On 05/03/2024 13:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 05/03/2024 12:43, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 18:24, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 16:23, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair >>>>>> term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do
    have a toilet, but it's only safe to use when the bus is
    stationary, then the bus company is entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about?  If >>>>> you are incontinent, you can always use a pad.

    I suggest you try using one before recommending them.They have a
    limited capacity before they leak.

    I haven't had to use one (yet), but Age UK claim a capacity of up to
    3.5 litres for some of theirs.

    https://www.ageukincontinence.co.uk/incontinence-shop/disposable-incontinence-products/large-shaped-pads.html


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TGv9YftAWQ


    I'm afraid that there are a couple of comics I cannot stand watching,
    and he's on the list.

    I managed around half a minute of that video, during which he literally laughed at incontinent people. Given his various serious ailments, I
    suspect that he's a keen user of incontinence pads himself, now.

    I wouldn't be surprised. He suffers from lots of complaints, and
    regales in recounting many of his own very personal experiences at the
    hands of the medical profession. He's not laughing at others so much as
    at himself and embarrassing situations in general.

    You probably won't like this example either, but I do:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvrzUngEQRw&ab_channel=BillyConnolly

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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 22:00:27 2024
    On 05/03/2024 14:20, GB wrote:
    On 05/03/2024 13:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 05/03/2024 12:43, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 18:24, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 16:23, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair >>>>>> term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do
    have a toilet, but it's only safe to use when the bus is
    stationary, then the bus company is entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about?  If >>>>> you are incontinent, you can always use a pad.

    I suggest you try using one before recommending them.They have a
    limited capacity before they leak.

    I haven't had to use one (yet), but Age UK claim a capacity of up to
    3.5 litres for some of theirs.

    https://www.ageukincontinence.co.uk/incontinence-shop/disposable-incontinence-products/large-shaped-pads.html


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TGv9YftAWQ


    I'm afraid that there are a couple of comics I cannot stand watching,
    and he's on the list.

    My list is the two Carrs.

    I managed around half a minute of that video, during which he literally laughed at incontinent people.

    I saw that as satirising those who do.

    Given his various serious ailments, I
    suspect that he's a keen user of incontinence pads himself, now.

    I hope they are more effective than the ones my late father had to wear.
    I gave him a cushion to sit on when I drove him anywhere, as it it hid
    the towel I put on the seat. The pads may work well under laboratory conditions, but they do leak in real life.

    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From billy bookcase@21:1/5 to Norman Wells on Wed Mar 6 09:28:54 2024
    "Norman Wells" <hex@unseen.ac.am> wrote in message news:l4oss8Fe1kvU5@mid.individual.net...
    On 05/03/2024 14:20, GB wrote:
    On 05/03/2024 13:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 05/03/2024 12:43, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 18:24, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 16:23, GB wrote:
    On 03/03/2024 15:58, Nick Odell wrote:

    If it's passenger liability insurance then wouldn't that be an unfair >>>>>>> term of contract?

    There's no requirement on a bus to have a toilet at all. If they do have a toilet,
    but it's only safe to use when the bus is stationary, then the bus company is
    entitled to say that.

    To be frank, I'm struggling to see what you are worrying about? If you are
    incontinent, you can always use a pad.

    I suggest you try using one before recommending them.They have a limited capacity
    before they leak.

    I haven't had to use one (yet), but Age UK claim a capacity of up to 3.5 litres for
    some of theirs.

    https://www.ageukincontinence.co.uk/incontinence-shop/disposable-incontinence-products/large-shaped-pads.html


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TGv9YftAWQ


    I'm afraid that there are a couple of comics I cannot stand watching, and he's on the
    list.

    I managed around half a minute of that video, during which he literally laughed at
    incontinent people. Given his various serious ailments, I suspect that he's a keen
    user of incontinence pads himself, now.

    I wouldn't be surprised. He suffers from lots of complaints, and regales in recounting
    many of his own very personal experiences at the hands of the medical profession. He's
    not laughing at others so much as at himself and embarrassing situations in general.

    You probably won't like this example either, but I do:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvrzUngEQRw&ab_channel=BillyConnolly


    Billy Connolly was a breath of fresh air when he first appeared on our TV screens
    with his hilarious stories about his former life as a welder working in the Glasgow shipyards and the people he worked with.

    That lasted for around 30 minutes.or so

    While in the opinion of some people at least over the ensuing 45 years of so
    he became progressively less and funny with each successive appearance as he gradually ran our of new material.

    Often in conversation with Michael Parkinson; who at one time actually
    wrote a very amusing column about watching Barnsley Football Club and Skinner Normanton in particular, in the pre-Murdoch "Sunday Times".


    bb

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinner_Normanton














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