Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my G'daughter is being
told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a barrister, yet working as a chef...
"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:upekp6$1noll$1@dont-email.me...
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my G'daughter is being
told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a barrister, yet working as a chef...
Just because she qualified as a barrister wouldn't necessarily guarentee
her sufficient work to live on, if any. So she might find she can earn more as a chef to simply pay the rent, until a vacancy arises.
Each of the Four Inns of Court issue lists of newly qualifies barristers each year
Sample links
https://www.innertemple.org.uk/news/inner-temple-new-silks-2023/.
https://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/news/lincolns-inn-new-silks-2022/
https://www.graysinn.org.uk/news/silk-appointments-2023/
https://www.middletemple.org.uk/news/new-silk-appointments
bb
"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:upekp6$1noll$1@dont-email.me...
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my G'daughter is being
told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a barrister, yet working as a chef...
Just because she qualified as a barrister wouldn't necessarily guarentee
her sufficient work to live on, if any. So she might find she can earn more as a chef to simply pay the rent, until a vacancy arises.
Each of the Four Inns of Court issue lists of newly qualifies barristers each year
Sample links https://www.innertemple.org.uk/news/inner-temple-new-silks-2023/. https://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/news/lincolns-inn-new-silks-2022/ https://www.graysinn.org.uk/news/silk-appointments-2023/ https://www.middletemple.org.uk/news/new-silk-appointments
bb
On 31/01/2024 11:54 pm, billy bookcase wrote:
"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:upekp6$1noll$1@dont-email.me...
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my G'daughter is being
told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a barrister, yet working as a chef...
Just because she qualified as a barrister wouldn't necessarily guarentee
her sufficient work to live on, if any. So she might find she can earn more >> as a chef to simply pay the rent, until a vacancy arises.
bb
I remember reading (admittedly some years ago, but not all that many), that certain
cohorts of barristers were earning less than £10,000 pa from that activity. This at a
time when average pay in the UK was more like £20,000 - £25,000.
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my
G'daughter is being told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a barrister,
yet working as a chef...
"JNugent" <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote in message news:l215v2Fakv8U3@mid.individual.net...
On 31/01/2024 11:54 pm, billy bookcase wrote:
"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:upekp6$1noll$1@dont-email.me...
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my
G'daughter is being told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a
barrister, yet working as a chef...
Just because she qualified as a barrister wouldn't necessarily
guarentee her sufficient work to live on, if any. So she might find
she can earn more as a chef to simply pay the rent, until a vacancy
arises. bb
< snip >
I remember reading (admittedly some years ago, but not all that
many), that certain cohorts of barristers were earning less than
£10,000 pa from that activity. This at a time when average pay in the
UK was more like £20,000 - £25,000.
Becoming a barrister can work out very expensive.
First get a Law Degree,
Then join one of the Four Inns of Court which you need
to do to take the Bar Exams. Study and Pass the Bar
Exams, and then get called to the Bar.
This makes you a barrister but doesn't allow you to practice.
To do this you need to serve a puppilage a year or two of
practical experience usually in a barrister's chambers, As
in Rumpole this is a group of self governing independent
barristers who share the same rooms/offices and barrister's
clerk. Unlike Rumpole these can be anywhere. Not just in
London but even Up North, I believe
As in Rumpole the pupil barrister will wear a wig and gown
in Court take notes etc for minimal pay.
Vacancies for puppilages are highly competitive as not all
chambers are looking to recruit not that there's necessarily
any guarantee of being taken on if people refuse to retire
(Rumpole again) and can often depend on contacts.
After serving your time you then get a certificate.
After all that, having scraped into some chambers a junior
legal aid barrister might spend more money, travelling to and
from Court on a case which is being constantly put back, *
than they will eventually earn as a fee. And that's before
the clerk takes his cut
So the OPs barrister-chef might be still looking for, or saving
up to finance their puppilage, or having done that may be looking
for a vacancy in their specialised field. Maybe catering Law
bb
On 01/02/2024 20:28, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Wednesday 31 January 2024 at 23:23:25 UTC, TTman wrote:Maybe... she's not the brightest star in the sky...I'll ask :)
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my
G'daughter is being told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a barrister,
yet working as a chef...
Got to ask ...
she doesn't mean barista does she?
Owain
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my
G'daughter is being told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a
barrister, yet working as a chef...
On 16:01 1 Feb 2024, billy bookcase said:
"JNugent" <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote in message
news:l215v2Fakv8U3@mid.individual.net...
On 31/01/2024 11:54 pm, billy bookcase wrote:
"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:upekp6$1noll$1@dont-email.me...
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my
G'daughter is being told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a
barrister, yet working as a chef...
Just because she qualified as a barrister wouldn't necessarily
guarentee her sufficient work to live on, if any. So she might find
she can earn more as a chef to simply pay the rent, until a vacancy
arises. bb
< snip >
I remember reading (admittedly some years ago, but not all that
many), that certain cohorts of barristers were earning less than
£10,000 pa from that activity. This at a time when average pay in the
UK was more like £20,000 - £25,000.
Becoming a barrister can work out very expensive.
First get a Law Degree,
Then join one of the Four Inns of Court which you need
to do to take the Bar Exams. Study and Pass the Bar
Exams, and then get called to the Bar.
This makes you a barrister but doesn't allow you to practice.
To do this you need to serve a puppilage a year or two of
practical experience usually in a barrister's chambers, As
in Rumpole this is a group of self governing independent
barristers who share the same rooms/offices and barrister's
clerk. Unlike Rumpole these can be anywhere. Not just in
London but even Up North, I believe
As in Rumpole the pupil barrister will wear a wig and gown
in Court take notes etc for minimal pay.
Vacancies for puppilages are highly competitive as not all
chambers are looking to recruit not that there's necessarily
any guarantee of being taken on if people refuse to retire
(Rumpole again) and can often depend on contacts.
After serving your time you then get a certificate.
After all that, having scraped into some chambers a junior
legal aid barrister might spend more money, travelling to and
from Court on a case which is being constantly put back, *
than they will eventually earn as a fee. And that's before
the clerk takes his cut
So the OPs barrister-chef might be still looking for, or saving
up to finance their puppilage, or having done that may be looking
for a vacancy in their specialised field. Maybe catering Law
bb
After getting though those stages, most barristers end up self-employed
and income will rely on demand. I imagine some will not be as busy as
they would like.
<https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/98104/is-there-any-particular- reason-why-barristers-have-to-be-self-employed-or-is-it>
https://shorturl.at/uELTX
On 03/02/2024 00:03, TTman wrote:
On 02/02/2024 17:46, Roger Morton wrote:So, I finally got the GD to tell me that the GF was in fact a Barista, qualified to
In <upekp6$1noll$1@dont-email.me>, TTman wrote:Definitely... Chinese whisper... G daughter told the wife, the wife told me I won't
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my
G'daughter is being told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a
barrister, yet working as a chef...
Um, a barista might be a more likely sideline for a chef?
--
Roger Morton
roger@chez-morton.com
ask who tolled the bell duh
I've asked the GD to clarify, but no answer yet. I suspect I already know... :(
make cappuccinos...
"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uqbhq4$15a3m$1@dont-email.me...
On 03/02/2024 00:03, TTman wrote:
On 02/02/2024 17:46, Roger Morton wrote:So, I finally got the GD to tell me that the GF was in fact a Barista, qualified to
In <upekp6$1noll$1@dont-email.me>, TTman wrote:Definitely... Chinese whisper... G daughter told the wife, the wife told me I won't
Is there such a thing? If so, where would I find it. I suspect my
G'daughter is being told porkies when a 'friend' says shes a
barrister, yet working as a chef...
Um, a barista might be a more likely sideline for a chef?
--
Roger Morton
roger@chez-morton.com
ask who tolled the bell duh
I've asked the GD to clarify, but no answer yet. I suspect I already know... :(
make cappuccinos...
So Starbucks or Costa ?
Given my GD said she's working as a chef, I guess neither...So, I finally got the GD to tell me that the GF was in fact a Barista, qualified toDefinitely... Chinese whisper... G daughter told the wife, the wife told me I won't
ask who tolled the bell duh
I've asked the GD to clarify, but no answer yet. I suspect I already know... :(
make cappuccinos...
So Starbucks or Costa ?
On 12/02/2024 23:34, billy bookcase wrote:
"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in messageNo idea TBH.I don't think it matters. She could have received 10 mins training in a cafe...
news:uqe8fn$1o8oc$1@dont-email.me...
Given my GD said she's working as a chef, I guess neither...So, I finally got the GD to tell me that the GF was in fact aDefinitely... Chinese whisper... G daughter told the wife, the
wife told me I won't
ask who tolled the bell duh
I've asked the GD to clarify, but no answer yet. I suspect I
already know... :(
Barista, qualified to
make cappuccinos...
So Starbucks or Costa ?
Indeed, but where did she qualify as a barrista ?
bb
"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uqe8fn$1o8oc$1@dont-email.me...
Given my GD said she's working as a chef, I guess neither...So, I finally got the GD to tell me that the GF was in fact a Barista, qualified toDefinitely... Chinese whisper... G daughter told the wife, the wife told me I won't
ask who tolled the bell duh
I've asked the GD to clarify, but no answer yet. I suspect I already know... :(
make cappuccinos...
So Starbucks or Costa ?
Indeed, but where did she qualify as a barrista ?
bb
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