I recently was obliged to send some documents within a specified date.
Given the timescale I intended to hand deliver these papers.

However, the only letterbox I could find was firmly shut and would not
open, so I was thwarted in my attempt to deliver.

Thankfully they accepted, on this occasion, an electronic version the
next day.

Am I expected to deliver papers during working hours?

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"Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote in message news:up9je9$mfsm$1@dont-email.me...

I recently was obliged to send some documents within a specified date.
Given the timescale I intended to hand deliver these papers.

However, the only letterbox I could find was firmly shut and would not open, so I was
thwarted in my attempt to deliver.

But if you posted them in a letterbox, there would be nothing to say you hadn't posted them 10 minutes before the letterbox was opened, on the next day
would there ?

As I doubt an insistence they should check their CCTV would cut much ice

Thankfully they accepted, on this occasion, an electronic version the next day.

Am I expected to deliver papers during working hours?

If you require proof of delivery, then it would appear so.

Some organisations are very specific as to the actual deadline


quote:

" The deadline for the delivery of nominations for a local government election is 4pm
on the nineteenth working day before the poll"

.https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/guidance-returning-officers-administering-
local-government-elections-england/nominations/delivery-nomination-papers/time- delivery-nomination-papers

You can deliver paper documents to the ground floor reception from Monday to Friday,
10am to 4pm (excluding bank holidays). We cannot provide a receipt or proof ...

thttps://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/companies-house/about/access-and-opening

unquote:



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On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 01:29:46 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

I recently was obliged to send some documents within a specified date.
Given the timescale I intended to hand deliver these papers.

However, the only letterbox I could find was firmly shut and would not
open, so I was thwarted in my attempt to deliver.

Thankfully they accepted, on this occasion, an electronic version the
next day.

Am I expected to deliver papers during working hours?

If you're delivering to a business address, then yes, there's no legal obligation for it to be capable of receiving deliveries outside business
hours. That's particularly relevant here given that, for the purpose of
serving legal documents, time is always counted in working days.

But, having said that, electronic service via a durable medium (eg, a PDF
sent by email) is acceptable in the majority of circumstances, so inability
on the part of the sender to deliver personally during working hours is
rarely an issue.

Mark

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On 08:45 30 Jan 2024, Mark Goodge said:

On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 01:29:46 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid>
wrote:

I recently was obliged to send some documents within a specified date. >>Given the timescale I intended to hand deliver these papers.

However, the only letterbox I could find was firmly shut and would not >>open, so I was thwarted in my attempt to deliver.

Thankfully they accepted, on this occasion, an electronic version the
next day.

Am I expected to deliver papers during working hours?

If you're delivering to a business address, then yes, there's no legal obligation for it to be capable of receiving deliveries outside
business hours. That's particularly relevant here given that, for the
purpose of serving legal documents, time is always counted in working
days.

But, having said that, electronic service via a durable medium (eg, a
PDF sent by email) is acceptable in the majority of circumstances, so inability on the part of the sender to deliver personally during
working hours is rarely an issue.

Mark

This reminds me of a similar situation.

I sent some documents and photos by email to the local council which
were too large for their electronic mailbox (at 15 MB). I got a message
back from their computer saying it couldn't be delivered to the
addresee.

So I compressed the files and resent them successfully but this caused a
long delay and missed their deadline.

The bounce message came from the council's computer and I wonder if it
could be argued that theoretically the files were delivered by the
required date but it was their technical limitation that they couldn't
accept it?

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