• Another Equality Act query?

    From RL@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 20 08:01:18 2024
    The following article was in yesterdays Daily Mail -

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12983165/Parkinsons-disease-parking-fine-tremors-download-app-pay-ticket.html

    It refers to a 73 yr old Parkinsons sufferer who had pulled in to park at a car park where it is pay by app.

    Because of his tremors he was unable to download and pay for his ticket within the FIVE mins allowed. He did download the app and pay the parking but it took him 18 mins.

    He was then fined £100

    I wondered if the set up at the location (and potentially many others) may be in breach of some sort of legislation in that they are not easily usable by a disabled person.

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 20 17:00:50 2024
    On 20/01/2024 16:01, RL wrote:
    The following article was in yesterdays Daily Mail -

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12983165/Parkinsons-disease-parking-fine-tremors-download-app-pay-ticket.html

    It refers to a 73 yr old Parkinsons sufferer who had pulled in to park at a car park where it is pay by app.

    Because of his tremors he was unable to download and pay for his ticket within the FIVE mins allowed. He did download the app and pay the parking but it took him 18 mins.

    He was then fined £100

    I wondered if the set up at the location (and potentially many others) may be in breach of some sort of legislation in that they are not easily usable by a disabled person.






    Are the DVLA aware that the driver had Parkinson's diease?

    (A genuine question and Depending on the severity of the parkinson's
    could affect the driver's ability....)

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 21 13:17:36 2024
    On 20/01/2024 17:00, SH wrote:
    On 20/01/2024 16:01, RL wrote:
    The following article was in yesterdays Daily Mail -

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12983165/Parkinsons-disease-parking-fine-tremors-download-app-pay-ticket.html

    It refers to a 73 yr old Parkinsons sufferer who had pulled in to park
    at a car park where it is pay by app.

    Because of his tremors he was unable to download and pay for his
    ticket within the FIVE mins allowed. He did download the app and pay
    the parking but it took him 18 mins.

    He was then fined £100

    I wondered if the set up at the location (and potentially many others)
    may be in breach of some sort of legislation in that they are not
    easily usable by a disabled person.






    Are the DVLA aware that the driver had Parkinson's diease?

    (A genuine question and Depending on the severity of the parkinson's
    could affect the driver's ability....)


    When you are diagnosed
    with Parkinson’s, you must tell the
    licensing agency (DVLA OR DVA)
    straight away and talk to your GP,
    specialist or Parkinson’s nurse (if
    you have one). Having the condition
    doesn’t necessarily mean that your
    licence will be affected, but you may
    need to have a medical or driving
    assessment.

    https://www.parkinsons.org.uk/sites/default/files/2018-09/B064%20Driving%20and%20Parkinson%27s%20WEB.pdf

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 21 16:09:44 2024
    On 20/01/2024 16:01, RL wrote:
    The following article was in yesterdays Daily Mail -

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12983165/Parkinsons-disease-parking-fine-tremors-download-app-pay-ticket.html

    It refers to a 73 yr old Parkinsons sufferer who had pulled in to
    park at a car park where it is pay by app.

    Because of his tremors he was unable to download and pay for his
    ticket within the FIVE mins allowed. He did download the app and pay
    the parking but it took him 18 mins.

    He was then fined £100

    There must be numerous instances where it takes a disabled drive more
    than 5 minutes to get a ticket. Without the possibility of a queue at
    the machine, there must be some who take ages to get out of their car
    into a wheelchair.

    I wondered if the set up at the location (and potentially many
    others) may be in breach of some sort of legislation in that they are
    not easily usable by a disabled person.

    I would expect so, and if the driver took issue he'd win in court,
    assuming it came to that.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Sun Jan 21 17:59:29 2024
    On 21/01/2024 16:09, Fredxx wrote:
    On 20/01/2024 16:01, RL wrote:
    The following article was in yesterdays Daily Mail -

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12983165/Parkinsons-disease-parking-fine-tremors-download-app-pay-ticket.html

     It refers to a 73 yr old Parkinsons sufferer who had pulled in to
    park at a car park where it is pay by app.

    Because of his tremors he was unable to download and pay for his
    ticket within the FIVE mins allowed. He did download the app and pay
    the parking but it took him 18 mins.

    He was then fined £100

    There must be numerous instances where it takes a disabled drive more
    than 5 minutes to get a ticket. Without the possibility of a queue at
    the machine, there must be some who take ages to get out of their car
    into a wheelchair.

    I have known it take more than 5 minutes to *find* one of the three
    empty spaces in a large carpark but with a 15 minute grace window.

    Also due the the small number of working physical machines requiring
    stick insect fingers to enter your registration and huge queues taking
    more than 30 minutes to buy a ticket. I photographed the queue with a
    watch in the foreground just in case they tried it on. Increasingly with
    pay by app there is much less focus on mending broken ticket machines.

    I wondered if the set up at the location (and potentially many
    others) may be in breach of some sort of legislation in that they are
    not easily usable by a disabled person.

    I would expect so, and if the driver took issue he'd win in court,
    assuming it came to that.

    I'd say five minutes should fall foul of the unfair contract terms act.

    It is almost impossible to comply with if you don't already have the
    right app. Some carparks also have misleading signs in remote parts of
    the carpark to rip off non-locals (eg Oxford park and ride).

    If you aren't careful there you will buy just the remote out of town
    parking space and then have to pay extra for the bus tickets into town!

    --
    Martin Brown

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