• How to find details of a death during 2023?

    From nothanks@aolbin.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 15 13:59:43 2024
    It's rumoured that an old, long-last, friend died last year but I have
    no other details. Never having to look before I'd assumed there would be
    an easily searchable online database that I could check for cause and
    date of death - but I can't find one.
    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to nothanks@aolbin.com on Mon Jan 15 16:12:10 2024
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 13:59:43 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    It's rumoured that an old, long-last, friend died last year but I have
    no other details. Never having to look before I'd assumed there would be
    an easily searchable online database that I could check for cause and
    date of death - but I can't find one.
    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    No, but this is the site that you want: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
    - the most recent deaths are from 2021, though. When your friend is
    listed you'll have to pay for a certified copy of his death
    certificate to discover the cause.
    If there could be a will then try:
    https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/sign-in
    which is updated more often and will tell you the date of death. The
    will, if there is one, and probate has been granted, and you are
    curious, can be downloaded for £2.50.
    If your friend's name is distinctive try Google, to see if his death
    was reported on any of the local/regional newspaper sites.

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  • From Roland Perry@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 15 16:37:17 2024
    In message <l0ks2fFm6mqU1@mid.individual.net>, at 13:59:43 on Mon, 15
    Jan 2024, nothanks@aolbin.com remarked:

    It's rumoured that an old, long-last, friend died last year but I have
    no other details. Never having to look before I'd assumed there would
    be an easily searchable online database that I could check for cause
    and date of death - but I can't find one.
    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    Yes, there's a site whose url escapes me at the moment, which allows
    such searches. You get more focussed results if you include search
    terms like their approximate address, approximate date of death etc.
    --
    Roland Perry

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Roland Perry on Mon Jan 15 17:44:41 2024
    Roland Perry wrote:


    nothanks@aolbin.com remarked:

    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    Yes, there's a site whose url escapes me at the moment, which allows
    such searches.

    possibly <https://www.freebmd.org.uk> but it's a volunteer effort and
    can have quite a lag transcribing entries

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  • From nothanks@aolbin.com@21:1/5 to Peter Johnson on Mon Jan 15 21:16:28 2024
    On 15/01/2024 16:12, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 13:59:43 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    It's rumoured that an old, long-lost, friend died last year but I have
    no other details. Never having to look before I'd assumed there would be
    an easily searchable online database that I could check for cause and
    date of death - but I can't find one.
    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    No, but this is the site that you want: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
    - the most recent deaths are from 2021, though. When your friend is
    listed you'll have to pay for a certified copy of his death
    certificate to discover the cause.
    If there could be a will then try: https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/sign-in
    which is updated more often and will tell you the date of death. The
    will, if there is one, and probate has been granted, and you are
    curious, can be downloaded for £2.50.
    If your friend's name is distinctive try Google, to see if his death
    was reported on any of the local/regional newspaper sites.

    Thanks very much for your reply. By going to the probatesearch site I
    was able to find most of the info I wanted (the cost was £1.50) but the
    death was in 2022 (not 2023, as I initially thought) and it seems that
    there is no way to get a copy of the death certificate for some time.

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  • From Roland Perry@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 16 07:09:39 2024
    In message <l0lllbFr2tkU1@mid.individual.net>, at 21:16:28 on Mon, 15
    Jan 2024, nothanks@aolbin.com remarked:
    On 15/01/2024 16:12, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 13:59:43 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    It's rumoured that an old, long-lost, friend died last year but I
    have
    no other details. Never having to look before I'd assumed there would be >>> an easily searchable online database that I could check for cause and
    date of death - but I can't find one.
    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?
    No, but this is the site that you want:
    https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
    - the most recent deaths are from 2021, though. When your friend is
    listed you'll have to pay for a certified copy of his death
    certificate to discover the cause.
    If there could be a will then try:
    https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/sign-in
    which is updated more often and will tell you the date of death. The
    will, if there is one, and probate has been granted, and you are
    curious, can be downloaded for £2.50.
    If your friend's name is distinctive try Google, to see if his death
    was reported on any of the local/regional newspaper sites.

    Thanks very much for your reply. By going to the probatesearch site I
    was able to find most of the info I wanted (the cost was £1.50) but the
    death was in 2022 (not 2023, as I initially thought) and it seems that
    there is no way to get a copy of the death certificate for some time.

    <https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate> claims
    15-day turnround. Also I think many (most?) local authority run
    Registrars of BMD will supply copies, as long as you know which one to
    apply to.
    --
    Roland Perry

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  • From Davidm@21:1/5 to nothanks@aolbin.com on Tue Jan 16 10:29:45 2024
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 21:16:28 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    On 15/01/2024 16:12, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 13:59:43 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    It's rumoured that an old, long-lost, friend died last year but I have
    no other details. Never having to look before I'd assumed there would be >>> an easily searchable online database that I could check for cause and
    date of death - but I can't find one.
    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    No, but this is the site that you want:
    https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
    - the most recent deaths are from 2021, though. When your friend is
    listed you'll have to pay for a certified copy of his death
    certificate to discover the cause.
    If there could be a will then try:
    https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/sign-in
    which is updated more often and will tell you the date of death. The
    will, if there is one, and probate has been granted, and you are
    curious, can be downloaded for £2.50.
    If your friend's name is distinctive try Google, to see if his death
    was reported on any of the local/regional newspaper sites.

    Thanks very much for your reply. By going to the probatesearch site I
    was able to find most of the info I wanted (the cost was £1.50) but the
    death was in 2022 (not 2023, as I initially thought) and it seems that
    there is no way to get a copy of the death certificate for some time.
    For births and deaths that were registered within the last 6 months, applications for certificates should be made to the Register Office in
    the district where the birth or death took place.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Tue Jan 16 13:55:21 2024
    On 15/01/2024 17:44, Andy Burns wrote:
    Roland Perry wrote:

    nothanks@aolbin.com remarked:

    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    Yes, there's a site whose url escapes me at the moment, which allows
    such searches.

    possibly <https://www.freebmd.org.uk> but it's a volunteer effort and
    can have quite a lag transcribing entries

    There are also some county based websites that have parallel and
    sometimes more up to date info on than main GRO.

    ISTR there is a restriction on random strangers getting hold of other
    people's recent birth, death and marriage certificates after Day of the
    Jackal. He had done his homework on how it (getting a genuine passport
    in a false name) was done rather too well.

    Local newspapers and "In memoriam" pages on undertakers websites
    sometimes give hits for people with moderately unusual names.

    --
    Martin Brown

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to nothanks@aolbin.com on Tue Jan 16 15:13:13 2024
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 21:16:28 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    On 15/01/2024 16:12, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 13:59:43 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    It's rumoured that an old, long-lost, friend died last year but I have
    no other details. Never having to look before I'd assumed there would be >>> an easily searchable online database that I could check for cause and
    date of death - but I can't find one.
    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    No, but this is the site that you want:
    https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
    - the most recent deaths are from 2021, though. When your friend is
    listed you'll have to pay for a certified copy of his death
    certificate to discover the cause.
    If there could be a will then try:
    https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/sign-in
    which is updated more often and will tell you the date of death. The
    will, if there is one, and probate has been granted, and you are
    curious, can be downloaded for £2.50.
    If your friend's name is distinctive try Google, to see if his death
    was reported on any of the local/regional newspaper sites.

    Thanks very much for your reply. By going to the probatesearch site I
    was able to find most of the info I wanted (the cost was £1.50) but the
    death was in 2022 (not 2023, as I initially thought) and it seems that
    there is no way to get a copy of the death certificate for some time.

    Go to the GRO site. Create a (free) account if you haven't already,
    login and click on 'Order a Certificate or PDF'.
    Chose England or Wales for 'Where was the event registered?' and Death
    'What type of event was it?'
    Then the question 'When was the event registered?' appears, along with
    a box into which you can enter dates up to 2022.
    Then the question 'How will the event be identified?' appears, to
    which you can answer 'I want the GRO to search for the registration
    and will provide details to identify it.' Then press submit.
    With the name, date and location, and a credit card, you have enough information to get a certificate.

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  • From nothanks@aolbin.com@21:1/5 to Peter Johnson on Tue Jan 16 16:06:30 2024
    On 16/01/2024 15:13, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 21:16:28 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    On 15/01/2024 16:12, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 13:59:43 +0000, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

    It's rumoured that an old, long-lost, friend died last year but I have >>>> no other details. Never having to look before I'd assumed there would be >>>> an easily searchable online database that I could check for cause and
    date of death - but I can't find one.
    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    No, but this is the site that you want:
    https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
    - the most recent deaths are from 2021, though. When your friend is
    listed you'll have to pay for a certified copy of his death
    certificate to discover the cause.
    If there could be a will then try:
    https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/sign-in
    which is updated more often and will tell you the date of death. The
    will, if there is one, and probate has been granted, and you are
    curious, can be downloaded for £2.50.
    If your friend's name is distinctive try Google, to see if his death
    was reported on any of the local/regional newspaper sites.

    Thanks very much for your reply. By going to the probatesearch site I
    was able to find most of the info I wanted (the cost was £1.50) but the
    death was in 2022 (not 2023, as I initially thought) and it seems that
    there is no way to get a copy of the death certificate for some time.

    Go to the GRO site. Create a (free) account if you haven't already,
    login and click on 'Order a Certificate or PDF'.
    Chose England or Wales for 'Where was the event registered?' and Death
    'What type of event was it?'
    Then the question 'When was the event registered?' appears, along with
    a box into which you can enter dates up to 2022.
    Then the question 'How will the event be identified?' appears, to
    which you can answer 'I want the GRO to search for the registration
    and will provide details to identify it.' Then press submit.
    With the name, date and location, and a credit card, you have enough information to get a certificate.

    Thanks, Peter, for the description of the process ... I now need to hope something arrives in the post.

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Tue Jan 16 16:04:20 2024
    Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
    On 15/01/2024 17:44, Andy Burns wrote:
    Roland Perry wrote:

    nothanks@aolbin.com remarked:

    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    Yes, there's a site whose url escapes me at the moment, which allows
    such searches.

    possibly <https://www.freebmd.org.uk> but it's a volunteer effort and
    can have quite a lag transcribing entries

    There are also some county based websites that have parallel and
    sometimes more up to date info on than main GRO.

    ISTR there is a restriction on random strangers getting hold of other people's recent birth, death and marriage certificates after Day of the Jackal. He had done his homework on how it (getting a genuine passport
    in a false name) was done rather too well.


    I’ve obtained a number of certificates - for family history reasons-
    without being asked why. Not all were obviously linked to me ( eg different surnames). In fact, a local office helped discover an unknown relative due
    to pointing out a time on one certificate and found the twin.

    In at least one case, in theory, the documents could been used for false ID reasons ( the person died as an infant but would still be alive now,
    assuming a normal life expectancy).

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to David McNeish on Tue Jan 16 22:13:29 2024
    On 16/01/2024 19:49, David McNeish wrote:
    On Tuesday 16 January 2024 at 13:55:27 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
    On 15/01/2024 17:44, Andy Burns wrote:
    Roland Perry wrote:

    noth...@aolbin.com remarked:

    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    Yes, there's a site whose url escapes me at the moment, which allows
    such searches.

    possibly <https://www.freebmd.org.uk> but it's a volunteer effort and
    can have quite a lag transcribing entries

    ISTR there is a restriction on random strangers getting hold of other
    people's recent birth, death and marriage certificates

    I've never heard of such a thing (in the UK anyway).

    Some years ago I went to try and get a birth certificate and was asked
    why I wanted it. I was told my reason wasn't sufficient and the request
    was refused.

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  • From Roland Perry@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 17 07:42:35 2024
    In message <uo6v29$1knkc$1@dont-email.me>, at 22:13:29 on Tue, 16 Jan
    2024, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> remarked:
    On 16/01/2024 19:49, David McNeish wrote:
    On Tuesday 16 January 2024 at 13:55:27 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
    On 15/01/2024 17:44, Andy Burns wrote:
    Roland Perry wrote:

    noth...@aolbin.com remarked:

    Is there a way to find and view a death certificate from 2023?

    Yes, there's a site whose url escapes me at the moment, which allows >>>>> such searches.

    possibly <https://www.freebmd.org.uk> but it's a volunteer effort and
    can have quite a lag transcribing entries

    ISTR there is a restriction on random strangers getting hold of
    other
    people's recent birth, death and marriage certificates

    I've never heard of such a thing (in the UK anyway).

    Some years ago I went to try and get a birth certificate and was asked
    why I wanted it. I was told my reason wasn't sufficient and the request
    was refused.

    By someone who was insufficiently trained/monitored.
    --
    Roland Perry

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