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    From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 16 21:50:15 2023
    Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.

    I wonder if many here use Google Groups?


    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From The Todal@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Sat Dec 16 22:28:17 2023
    On 16/12/2023 21:50, Sir Tim wrote:
    Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.

    I wonder if many here use Google Groups?



    I bet a lot of readers believe that this group, uk.legal.moderated, is a
    Google group. It isn't, of course. And the moderators therefore have no
    power to delete posts or threads that appear in the Google version of
    this group.

    I guess anyone who accesses the group via Google Groups will have to
    consider using Usenet. Make use of a newsreader such as Thunderbird
    (others are available) and subscribe to our group that way.

    Read the opening paragraph at https://uklegal.weebly.com/

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Sun Dec 17 09:33:17 2023
    Sir Tim wrote:

    I wonder if many here use Google Groups?

    For writing, I haven't noticed* any in this group.

    For reading, who knows? For a read-only web-based alternative see <https://uk.legal.moderated.narkive.com>



    [*] I have rules that selectively kill posts from googlegroups, but tag
    the results, so I know what the rules have done.

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  • From Omega@21:1/5 to The Todal on Sun Dec 17 09:50:54 2023
    On 16/12/2023 22:28, The Todal wrote:
    On 16/12/2023 21:50, Sir Tim wrote:
    Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
    groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet
    groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and
    search for
    historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google
    Groups.

    I wonder if many here use Google Groups?



    I bet a lot of readers believe that this group, uk.legal.moderated, is a Google group. It isn't, of course. And the moderators therefore have no
    power to delete posts or threads that appear in the Google version of
    this group.

    I guess anyone who accesses the group via Google Groups will have to
    consider using Usenet. Make use of a newsreader such as Thunderbird
    (others are available) and subscribe to our group that way.

    Read the opening paragraph at https://uklegal.weebly.com/





    I can vouch for Thunderbird after you recommended this platform to me
    currently sat on a Windows 10 operating system a few years so thank you
    Y Todal.

    After setting my preferences, it has worked totally trouble free in that
    time.

    Thank you.

    omega

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  • From pensive hamster@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Dec 17 03:29:11 2023
    On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 9:35:49 AM UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
    Sir Tim wrote:

    I wonder if many here use Google Groups?
    For writing, I haven't noticed* any in this group.

    For reading, who knows? For a read-only web-based alternative see <https://uk.legal.moderated.narkive.com>

    [*] I have rules that selectively kill posts from googlegroups, but tag
    the results, so I know what the rules have done.

    I use Google Groups for reading and posting. I used to use Turnpike,
    so I am aware there are "proper" newsreaders. I had a look at
    Thunderbird, but it seemed pretty clunky to me, Google Groups seems
    much better for my purposes.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 17 12:02:44 2023
    On 17/12/2023 in message <a24018b0-671c-460d-9a59-db4d6fc63915n@googlegroups.com> pensive hamster
    wrote:

    On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 9:35:49 AM UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
    Sir Tim wrote:

    I wonder if many here use Google Groups?
    For writing, I haven't noticed* any in this group.

    For reading, who knows? For a read-only web-based alternative see >><https://uk.legal.moderated.narkive.com>

    [*] I have rules that selectively kill posts from googlegroups, but tag
    the results, so I know what the rules have done.

    I use Google Groups for reading and posting. I used to use Turnpike,
    so I am aware there are "proper" newsreaders. I had a look at
    Thunderbird, but it seemed pretty clunky to me, Google Groups seems
    much better for my purposes.

    Somebody in another group posted a link to a web based server if that's
    your preference:

    https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/thread.php?group=uk.d-i-y

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The first five days after the weekend are the hardest.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to pensive hamster on Sun Dec 17 11:49:15 2023
    pensive hamster wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    Sir Tim wrote:

    I wonder if many here use Google Groups?
    For writing, I haven't noticed* any in this group.

    For reading, who knows? For a read-only web-based alternative see
    <https://uk.legal.moderated.narkive.com>

    [*] I have rules that selectively kill posts from googlegroups, but tag
    the results, so I know what the rules have done.

    I use Google Groups for reading and posting.

    Ah yes, I have a "stop filters" rule with higher priority in moderated
    groups, that's why I don't see any posts being killed here

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sun Dec 17 12:06:30 2023
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Somebody in another group posted a link to a web based server if that's
    your preference:

    https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/thread.php?group=uk.d-i-y

    Unfortunately it doesn't carry u.l.m

    I'm not sure if that's because nobody has requested it (the owner is
    open to requests) or because it can't handle moderated groups ...

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  • From Pamela@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Sun Dec 17 14:13:12 2023
    On 21:50 16 Dec 2023, Sir Tim said:

    Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to
    Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view
    and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22,
    2024 on Google Groups.

    So messages posted after February 2024 will not be searchable.

    Maybe somebody will step in and provide that service. If you ignore the bianries, Usenet traffic is probably quite modest these days.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to Pamela on Sun Dec 17 19:04:17 2023
    Pamela <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> wrote:

    Usenet traffic is probably quite modest these days.

    *very* I would say (uk.legal is rare in having quite heavy traffic).

    FWIW I use Thunderbird on PC and NewsTap on iPad.

    My news server is:

    http://news.individual.net/

    (10 euros p.a. and very reliable)

    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From Mark Goodge@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Sun Dec 17 19:58:10 2023
    On 16 Dec 2023 21:50:15 GMT, Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at >groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet >groups, or view new Usenet content.

    On the one hand, this is very good news for those of us forced to suffer the technical ineptitude of Google Groups.

    On the other hand, it means that DejaNews is officially dead and buried,
    which is very bad news.

    I'd prefer it if they simply switched off posting, but continued to collect
    and store the archive. But I suppose that doesn't make sufficient financial sense for them.

    Mark

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