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    From Spike@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 21:57:23 2023
    This seems bizarre, but Highway Code rules are Highway Code rules…

    Has anyone been ‘done’ for this, or is it just a Runcorn thing?

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    With the weather worsening, and temparatures falling, drivers are being
    warned that wearing winter clothes while driving could land them a £5,000 fine.
    Wearing gloves, coats and scarves could impact your driving, and therefore
    put you at risk of receiving a fine.

    While it may be tempting to wrap up warm while getting behind the wheel on
    a cold winter’s morning, it could be costly.

    Rule 97 of the Highway Code states that drivers must have “footwear and clothing which does not prevent you using the controls in the correct manner.”

    Motoring experts have warned that gloves could hamper motorists due to a
    loss of grip on the steering wheel or gear stick.

    Scarves, meanwhile, could impact visibility, as could hats and puffy coats,
    the experts warn.

    Michael Bourne, group marketing director at National Tyres and Autocare,
    said: “Driving in outfits that impact your driving ability could cause an accident.

    “Any piece of clothing that impairs your vision or prevents you from using the car’s controls could lead to a £5,000 fine and potentially three points on your licence.”

    The Road Traffic Act warns that anything that obstructs the vision of a
    driver could be considered a hazard.

    If someone is caught with an object that obstructs vision, they could be
    hit with a £100 fine which could rise to £1,000 and three penalty points on their licence if the incident is taken to court.

    https://www.runcornandwidnesworld.co.uk/news/23869284.5-000-fine-driving-gloves-coats-scarves-warning/


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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 1 08:40:06 2023
    On 31/10/2023 21:57, Spike wrote:
    This seems bizarre, but Highway Code rules are Highway Code rules…

    Has anyone been ‘done’ for this, or is it just a Runcorn thing?

    =====

    With the weather worsening, and temparatures falling, drivers are being warned that wearing winter clothes while driving could land them a £5,000 fine.
    Wearing gloves, coats and scarves could impact your driving, and therefore put you at risk of receiving a fine.

    While it may be tempting to wrap up warm while getting behind the wheel on
    a cold winter’s morning, it could be costly.

    Rule 97 of the Highway Code states that drivers must have “footwear and clothing which does not prevent you using the controls in the correct manner.”

    Motoring experts have warned that gloves could hamper motorists due to a
    loss of grip on the steering wheel or gear stick.

    Scarves, meanwhile, could impact visibility, as could hats and puffy coats, the experts warn.

    Michael Bourne, group marketing director at National Tyres and Autocare, said: “Driving in outfits that impact your driving ability could cause an accident.

    “Any piece of clothing that impairs your vision or prevents you from using the car’s controls could lead to a £5,000 fine and potentially three points
    on your licence.”

    The Road Traffic Act warns that anything that obstructs the vision of a driver could be considered a hazard.

    If someone is caught with an object that obstructs vision, they could be
    hit with a £100 fine which could rise to £1,000 and three penalty points on their licence if the incident is taken to court.

    https://www.runcornandwidnesworld.co.uk/news/23869284.5-000-fine-driving-gloves-coats-scarves-warning/

    Well, if they'd have used a photo at the top of the page showing someone wearing gloves and heavy clothes, that might have made some sense. But
    that driver doesn't seem to have either. Mind you, gloves might have
    stopped him sending the text which he appears to be about to do. :-)

    Perhaps they used the wrong photo...especially as it's been been saved
    in reverse as the text and numbers on the phone and display are
    back-to-front! That would also make it a left-hand drive car, and taken
    in another country whether they drive on the right.

    Perhaps the article was intended as a promo piece for NT&A.

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  • From billy bookcase@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 1 09:32:38 2023
    "Spike" <aero.spike@btinternet.invalid> wrote in message news:kqdbi3FgomfU1@mid.individual.net...
    This seems bizarre, but Highway Code rules are Highway Code rules.

    Has anyone been 'done' for this, or is it just a Runcorn thing?

    At a guess, the article is the work of a freelance, Phil or
    Philippa Space, (whether they like it or not) and has been
    syndicated nationally.

    It is kind of topical; despite the fact most cars nowadays have
    heaters. But is based on the principle that no harm is done by
    repeating ad nauseam what may be blindingly obvious to some people;
    while others never give a second thought to such things.

    In the "old days" at least, in really cold weather, how many people
    have driven to work with only a circle of cleared windscreen to look
    through, I wonder . While wiping the condensation away with their
    other hand?

    (And which I assume is no longer necessary in modern "computers says
    no" type cars)

    So that taken to its logical conclusion its not altogether impossible
    that some person at some time may get into trouble over this - but
    probably only after an accident.

    And after ringing round for maybe hours, Phil or Phillipa finally
    got the necessary quote from an "expert"; if only the marketing
    director of a tyre co.

    Anyway it seems to have served its purpose in generating interest
    of some sorts.


    bb

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Wed Nov 1 10:04:04 2023
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Perhaps the article was intended as a promo piece for NT&A.

    Seems to be press release journalism: https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/drivers-warned-face-5000-fine-28228777 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/drivers-risk-hefty-5k-fine-25578868 https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1529247/driving-fines-drivers-christmas-jumper-fines-rules
    https://www.heraldseries.co.uk/news/23887319.5-000-fine-warning-driving-gloves-coats-scarves/

    Note the byline on each of these is different.
    (also recycled in a few dozen local papers)

    I would blame AI, but the datelines on these predate widespread LLM availability.

    Theo

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  • From TTman@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 1 23:05:44 2023
    On 31/10/2023 21:57, Spike wrote:
    This seems bizarre, but Highway Code rules are Highway Code rules…

    Has anyone been ‘done’ for this, or is it just a Runcorn thing?

    =====

    With the weather worsening, and temparatures falling, drivers are being warned that wearing winter clothes while driving could land them a £5,000 fine.
    Wearing gloves, coats and scarves could impact your driving, and therefore put you at risk of receiving a fine.

    While it may be tempting to wrap up warm while getting behind the wheel on
    a cold winter’s morning, it could be costly.

    Rule 97 of the Highway Code states that drivers must have “footwear and clothing which does not prevent you using the controls in the correct manner.”

    Motoring experts have warned that gloves could hamper motorists due to a
    loss of grip on the steering wheel or gear stick.

    Scarves, meanwhile, could impact visibility, as could hats and puffy coats, the experts warn.

    Michael Bourne, group marketing director at National Tyres and Autocare, said: “Driving in outfits that impact your driving ability could cause an accident.

    “Any piece of clothing that impairs your vision or prevents you from using the car’s controls could lead to a £5,000 fine and potentially three points
    on your licence.”

    The Road Traffic Act warns that anything that obstructs the vision of a driver could be considered a hazard.

    If someone is caught with an object that obstructs vision, they could be
    hit with a £100 fine which could rise to £1,000 and three penalty points on their licence if the incident is taken to court.

    https://www.runcornandwidnesworld.co.uk/news/23869284.5-000-fine-driving-gloves-coats-scarves-warning/



    It's nothing but click bait to generate click revenue ( hopefully)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 1 10:57:39 2023
    Spike wrote:

    Has anyone been ‘done’ for this, or is it just a Runcorn thing?

    You've been reading the "warning issued by $X" stories in local rags
    haven't you?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 1 11:23:03 2023
    On 31/10/2023 09:57 pm, Spike wrote:

    This seems bizarre, but Highway Code rules are Highway Code rules…
    Has anyone been ‘done’ for this, or is it just a Runcorn thing?

    When much younger, more impecunious and consequently driving old bangers
    (and the like), we always found Cheshire and North Wales forces to be pussycats, especially as compared to the feared Lancashire mob.

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    With the weather worsening, and temparatures falling, drivers are being warned that wearing winter clothes while driving could land them a £5,000 fine.
    Wearing gloves, coats and scarves could impact your driving, and therefore put you at risk of receiving a fine.

    While it may be tempting to wrap up warm while getting behind the wheel on
    a cold winter’s morning, it could be costly.

    Rule 97 of the Highway Code states that drivers must have “footwear and clothing which does not prevent you using the controls in the correct manner.”

    Motoring experts have warned that gloves could hamper motorists due to a
    loss of grip on the steering wheel or gear stick.

    Driving gloves (as Alan Partridge used to say, giving that "extra
    purchase") have been on sale for decades. Police traffic officers -
    especially those on motorcycles, but certainly also those driving
    pursuit vehicles - wear them for that precise reason. Someone is on a
    wind-up.

    Scarves, meanwhile, could impact visibility, as could hats and puffy coats, the experts warn.

    Michael Bourne, group marketing director at National Tyres and Autocare, said: “Driving in outfits that impact your driving ability could cause an accident.

    “Any piece of clothing that impairs your vision or prevents you from using the car’s controls could lead to a £5,000 fine and potentially three points
    on your licence.”

    The Road Traffic Act warns that anything that obstructs the vision of a driver could be considered a hazard.

    If someone is caught with an object that obstructs vision, they could be
    hit with a £100 fine which could rise to £1,000 and three penalty points on their licence if the incident is taken to court.

    Sat nav on a stick-on cradle?

    And police cars positively bristle with equipment whose top edges are
    well above the level of the dashboard.

    A bit of hyperbole at work there! Follow the money...

    What do National Tyres and Autocare sell?


    https://www.runcornandwidnesworld.co.uk/news/23869284.5-000-fine-driving-gloves-coats-scarves-warning/

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  • From Alan J. Wylie@21:1/5 to Theo on Wed Nov 1 11:31:36 2023
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Seems to be press release journalism: https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/drivers-warned-face-5000-fine-28228777 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/drivers-risk-hefty-5k-fine-25578868 https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1529247/driving-fines-drivers-christmas-jumper-fines-rules
    https://www.heraldseries.co.uk/news/23887319.5-000-fine-warning-driving-gloves-coats-scarves/

    Note the byline on each of these is different.
    (also recycled in a few dozen local papers)

    I would blame AI, but the datelines on these predate widespread LLM availability.

    It's clickbait.

    Here are some, just in the past month, from one local paper: the
    Bradford Telegraph and Argus

    * Halloween decorations on your car could land you £13k in fines
    * Writing 'wash me' on dirty vehicles could land £2,500 fine
    * £5,000 fine for driving in gloves, coats, scarves warning
    * Eyesight standards drivers need to meet or risk £1000 fine
    * UK Drivers warned they face fines for commonly used 'friendly warning'
    (flashing your lights to let other drivers know you are making way)
    * DVLA number plate fine warning (not adhering to specifications)

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/23883687.halloween-decorations-car-land-13k-fine/
    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/23839566.writing-wash-me-dirty-vehicles-land-2-500-fine/
    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/23823837.5-000-fine-driving-gloves-coats-scarves-warning/
    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/23811151.eyesight-standards-drivers-need-meet-risk-1000-fine/
    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/23792854.uk-drivers-warned-face-fines-commonly-used-friendly-warning/
    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/23762912.dvla-number-plate-fine-warning-73-plates-launch/

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to billy bookcase on Wed Nov 1 13:44:43 2023
    On 01/11/2023 09:32, billy bookcase wrote:
    "Spike" <aero.spike@btinternet.invalid> wrote in message news:kqdbi3FgomfU1@mid.individual.net...
    This seems bizarre, but Highway Code rules are Highway Code rules.

    Has anyone been 'done' for this, or is it just a Runcorn thing?

    At a guess, the article is the work of a freelance, Phil or
    Philippa Space, (whether they like it or not) and has been
    syndicated nationally.

    It is kind of topical; despite the fact most cars nowadays have
    heaters. But is based on the principle that no harm is done by
    repeating ad nauseam what may be blindingly obvious to some people;
    while others never give a second thought to such things.

    In the "old days" at least, in really cold weather, how many people
    have driven to work with only a circle of cleared windscreen to look
    through, I wonder . While wiping the condensation away with their
    other hand?

    How about driving slumped down so you can see through the inch of clear windscreen above the dashboard?

    Does anyone remember "travel rugs"? (I think only passengers used them)
    until they were used as bedspreads.

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to billy bookcase on Wed Nov 1 20:15:37 2023
    On 01-Nov-23 9:32, billy bookcase wrote:

    At a guess, the article is the work of a freelance, Phil or
    Philippa Space, (whether they like it or not) and has been
    syndicated nationally.

    Agreed. Clickbait bolleaux which should be ignored, not rebroadcast.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Thu Nov 2 00:56:25 2023
    On 01/11/2023 01:44 pm, Max Demian wrote:
    On 01/11/2023 09:32, billy bookcase wrote:
    "Spike" <aero.spike@btinternet.invalid> wrote in message
    news:kqdbi3FgomfU1@mid.individual.net...
    This seems bizarre, but Highway Code rules are Highway Code rules.

    Has anyone been 'done' for this, or is it just a Runcorn thing?

    At a guess, the article is the work of a freelance, Phil or
    Philippa Space, (whether they  like it or not) and has been
    syndicated nationally.

    It is kind of topical; despite the fact most cars nowadays have
    heaters. But is based on the principle that no harm is done by
    repeating ad nauseam what may be  blindingly obvious to some people;
    while others never give a second thought to such things.

    In the "old days" at least, in really cold weather, how many people
    have driven to work with only a circle of cleared windscreen to look
    through, I wonder . While wiping the condensation away with their
    other hand?

    How about driving slumped down so you can see through the inch of clear windscreen above the dashboard?

    Does anyone remember "travel rugs"? (I think only passengers used them)
    until they were used as bedspreads.

    I still have three or four of them.

    My wife (whom I met forty-three years ago) assures me that they were all already in my house at the time. I, OTOH, remember nothing about buying
    or receiving them.

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