Hollesley Bay is an open prison in Suffolk.

It is probably quite nice as these places go. It's hardly difficult to
escape, as there are no walls. Prisoners are sent home for leave, and
some work outside the prison, etc. The prisoners are mostly at the end
of their sentences, being prepared for release.

Anyone absconding will eventually get picked up by the police, and sent
back to prison in a far less pleasant establishment. I assume they'll
get a bit added to their sentence for absconding - maybe, through loss
of remission.

Yet, this prison has a reputation for people absconding, and there are
three more in the news today. Does anyone have an insight into why they
do this?

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On 22/10/2023 20:08, GB wrote:

Hollesley Bay is an open prison in Suffolk.

It is probably quite nice as these places go. It's hardly difficult to escape, as there are no walls. Prisoners are sent home for leave, and
some work outside the prison, etc. The prisoners are mostly at the end
of their sentences, being prepared for release.

Anyone absconding will eventually get picked up by the police, and sent
back to prison in a far less pleasant establishment. I assume they'll
get a bit added to their sentence for absconding - maybe, through loss
of remission.

Yet, this prison has a reputation for people absconding, and there are
three more in the news today. Does anyone have an insight into why they
do this?

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2014-07-07/why-do-some-criminals-abscond-from-open-prison-a-former-sudbury-inmate-gives-his-views


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Colin Bignell

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On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 20:08:16 +0100, GB wrote:

Hollesley Bay is an open prison in Suffolk.

It is probably quite nice as these places go. It's hardly difficult to escape, as there are no walls. Prisoners are sent home for leave, and
some work outside the prison, etc. The prisoners are mostly at the end
of their sentences, being prepared for release.

Anyone absconding will eventually get picked up by the police, and sent
back to prison in a far less pleasant establishment. I assume they'll
get a bit added to their sentence for absconding - maybe, through loss
of remission.

Yet, this prison has a reputation for people absconding, and there are
three more in the news today. Does anyone have an insight into why they
do this?

Axiomatically, criminals aren't the brightest bunnies.

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On 22/10/2023 20:08, GB wrote:

Hollesley Bay is an open prison in Suffolk.

It is probably quite nice as these places go. It's hardly difficult to escape, as there are no walls. Prisoners are sent home for leave, and
some work outside the prison, etc. The prisoners are mostly at the end
of their sentences, being prepared for release.

Anyone absconding will eventually get picked up by the police, and sent
back to prison in a far less pleasant establishment. I assume they'll
get a bit added to their sentence for absconding - maybe, through loss
of remission.

Yet, this prison has a reputation for people absconding, and there are
three more in the news today. Does anyone have an insight into why they
do this?

May people are myopic, they cannot see the future consequences of their
actions and have little self-control. I know some where if there is any
money on their pocket it has to be spent. They cannot save and
everything is paid for 'on tick'.

I think it's an excellent test for release. If a prisoner has some
self-control then they get released on time. If they walk out they get
picked up and lose some of their parole rights as well as an increased sentence. What's not to like.

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GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote:

Hollesley Bay is an open prison in Suffolk.

It is probably quite nice as these places go. It's hardly difficult to escape, as there are no walls. Prisoners are sent home for leave, and
some work outside the prison, etc. The prisoners are mostly at the end
of their sentences, being prepared for release.

Anyone absconding will eventually get picked up by the police, and sent
back to prison in a far less pleasant establishment. I assume they'll
get a bit added to their sentence for absconding - maybe, through loss
of remission.

Yet, this prison has a reputation for people absconding, and there are
three more in the news today. Does anyone have an insight into why they
do this?

I had a met someone who worked at a local open prison several years ago. He mentioned, if new inmates arrived late in the day, they weren’t issued with fresh kit, especially boots. Not because the stores were closed. It was to save having to replace them as new arrivals tended to do a runner on the
first night.

We don’t often see reports of escapes but I have no doubt they are far more frequent than are reported.

Then, the residents of Sheppey try to escape 😊 Even the Dutch didn’t hang around when they invaded.

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"GB" <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote in message news:uh3ruu$2jf9v$1@dont-email.me...

Hollesley Bay is an open prison in Suffolk.

It is probably quite nice as these places go. It's hardly difficult to escape, as there are no walls. Prisoners are sent home for leave, and some work outside the prison, etc. The prisoners are mostly at the end of their sentences, being prepared for release.

Anyone absconding will eventually get picked up by the police, and sent
back to prison in a far less pleasant establishment. I assume they'll get
a bit added to their sentence for absconding - maybe, through loss of remission.

Yet, this prison has a reputation for people absconding, and there are
three more in the news today. Does anyone have an insight into why they do this?

In some cases but not necessarily these, they absond to attend particular
one off events or ceremonies for which they won't get compassionate
leave.

The funeral of a criminal associate perhaps. Who of course they'll never
have heard of as they're totally innocent. O.K

Or the funeral of a former mistress, their nearest and dearest never
knew about.

Or the marriage of a love child nobody else knew about



bb

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On Monday, 23 October 2023 at 02:21:45 UTC+1, Fredxx wrote:

On 22/10/2023 20:08, GB wrote:

Hollesley Bay is an open prison in Suffolk.

It is probably quite nice as these places go. It's hardly difficult to escape, as there are no walls. Prisoners are sent home for leave, and
some work outside the prison, etc. The prisoners are mostly at the end
of their sentences, being prepared for release.

Anyone absconding will eventually get picked up by the police, and sent back to prison in a far less pleasant establishment. I assume they'll
get a bit added to their sentence for absconding - maybe, through loss
of remission.

Yet, this prison has a reputation for people absconding, and there are three more in the news today. Does anyone have an insight into why they
do this?

May people are myopic, they cannot see the future consequences of their actions and have little self-control. I know some where if there is any
money on their pocket it has to be spent. They cannot save and
everything is paid for 'on tick'.

Indeed, and it is the poor decision-making skills of such people that is often responsible for them being in prison in the first place.

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