My wife bought a new Vauxhall Astra Ultimate Diesel model in January 2023.

According to

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/vauxhall_astra_ultimate_turbo_d

there are only 16 of them ever built in the UK (3 in December 2022, 13 in January 2023).

Which kind of makes sense, Vauxhall (like a lot of manufacturers) have bailed out of diesel engine production.

So (a) how reliable is the site? Is there a better site?

And (b) if my wife chooses to sell, could she advertise it as "a limited edition" model and be immune from legal repurcussions?

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"Tony The Welsh Twat" <tonythewelshtwat@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ea59a703-0aec-4795-b3ca-d23a33c80cc0n@googlegroups.com...

My wife bought a new Vauxhall Astra Ultimate Diesel model in January 2023.

According to

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/vauxhall_astra_ultimate_turbo_d

there are only 16 of them ever built in the UK (3 in December 2022, 13 in January 2023).

Which kind of makes sense, Vauxhall (like a lot of manufacturers) have
bailed out of diesel engine production.

So (a) how reliable is the site? Is there a better site?

And (b) if my wife chooses to sell, could she advertise it as "a limited edition" model and be immune from
legal repurcussions?

As there any evidence that such "rare" cars are actually advertised
as such and that they command a price premium over more common models ?

Without being too pedantic it possibly could be argued that "Limited
Editions" are normally decided on, and described as such, beforehand.
And can number anything from say 5 to 5,000 or more, in the case of commemorative plates. *

Whereas articles which as it turns out were only ever manufactured in
small numbers as a result of a lack of demand are simply commercial
failures; to not put too fine a point on it.

Although its probably advisable not to advertise them as that.


bb

* In a similar vein, every book ever published has appeared as a first
edition. Which in no way discourages some prospective sellers of the
99.5% of titles which never made it to a second edition from advertising
their offerings as a "rare first edition".

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Tony The Welsh Twat <tonythewelshtwat@gmail.com> wrote:

My wife bought a new Vauxhall Astra Ultimate Diesel model in January 2023.

According to

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/vauxhall_astra_ultimate_turbo_d

there are only 16 of them ever built in the UK (3 in December 2022, 13 in January 2023).

Which kind of makes sense, Vauxhall (like a lot of manufacturers) have
bailed out of diesel engine production.

So (a) how reliable is the site? Is there a better site?

And (b) if my wife chooses to sell, could she advertise it as "a limited edition" model and be immune from legal repurcussions?

There is a difference between a manufacturer offering / selling ‘special editions’ and claiming, for example, only 400 will be available in the UK
and either only a limited number being made for other reasons, being left
‘on the road’ after a period of time etc.

For example, in 1999, I bought a limited edition MX5, a 1.8SE. Only 400 (
at least that is the number I recall) were sold. True, people modified
other versions to mimic them - they had tan leather seats, a particular
brand of wooden steering wheel, etc. But, I never saw any evidence there
were more than the claimed 400 real ones. I kept it for 18 years and still sometimes regret selling it but I rarely used it.


That said, Mazda made many other special editions, so the SE wasn’t the
only one. It was simply the one we both liked.


As to your question.

Whereas a true special edition can command a premium, an ordinary car which simply wasn’t made in quantity and MAY therefore have issues when it comes
to getting spares is another matter.

The special MX5s were, essentially normal ones mechanically but the special trim etc was hard to get- even after a short time. When mine was only a
year or so old, someone bumped it while it was parked. He admitted it was
his fault etc but the repairers had trouble getting a special badge only
used on that model. I forget the solution, one was found eventually, but it wasn’t cheap- not that I or my insurance was paying. Conversely, if I
still owned it, I’m sure I could still get new mechanical parts etc. MX5s
are as common as cat muck, not least due to being reliable cars. In the
time I had it, it never missed a beat. It still had the original exhaust
and battery and started first time. I did have the cambelt changed etc and
new tyres. Not bad in 18 years.

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On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 18:42:48 UTC+1, Tony The Welsh Twat wrote:

My wife bought a new Vauxhall Astra Ultimate Diesel model in January 2023.

According to

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/vauxhall_astra_ultimate_turbo_d

there are only 16 of them ever built in the UK (3 in December 2022, 13 in January 2023).

Which kind of makes sense, Vauxhall (like a lot of manufacturers) have bailed out of diesel engine production.

So (a) how reliable is the site? Is there a better site?

And (b) if my wife chooses to sell, could she advertise it as "a limited edition" model and be immune from legal repercussions?

Its rarity might make it more valuable, but for many buyers difficulty of getting spare parts for rare cars and exotica is a major deterrent.

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On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:11:13 -0700 (PDT), "notya...@gmail.com" <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 18:42:48 UTC+1, Tony The Welsh Twat wrote:

My wife bought a new Vauxhall Astra Ultimate Diesel model in January 2023. >>
According to

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/vauxhall_astra_ultimate_turbo_d

there are only 16 of them ever built in the UK (3 in December 2022, 13 in January 2023).

Which kind of makes sense, Vauxhall (like a lot of manufacturers) have bailed out of diesel engine production.

So (a) how reliable is the site? Is there a better site?

And (b) if my wife chooses to sell, could she advertise it as "a limited edition" model and be immune from legal repercussions?

Its rarity might make it more valuable, but for many buyers difficulty of getting spare parts for rare cars and exotica is a major deterrent.

Some 30 years ago a friend who ran his own business went to a BMW
showroom in search of a new car and was persuaded to but a pre-release
version of a forthcoming Series 5. A few years laterand seeking to
trade it in he was rather annoyed to discover that it wasn't worth as
much as he thought it should have been. 'Not a proper model, is it?'
But it must have been rare. Don't think he bought another BMW but
don't remember what he did buy.

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