• Police to get power to stop slow walking climate protests

    From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 27 18:41:16 2023
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-parliament-people-chris- philp-suella-braverman-b2328376.html

    Would this mean there are effectively places that someone who uses a
    walking aid - or who simply cannot walk "normally" are effectively banned
    from ?

    Many years ago, disabled activists threw themselves out of their
    wheelchairs on the steps of the US Congress to make a point. Presumably
    here they would be locked up ?

    I wonder how our courts would cope. Accessibility being someone elses
    problem in the UK in 2023.

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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 27 20:24:47 2023
    On 27/04/2023 19:41, Jethro_uk wrote:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-parliament-people-chris- philp-suella-braverman-b2328376.html

    Would this mean there are effectively places that someone who uses a
    walking aid - or who simply cannot walk "normally" are effectively banned from ?

    They would probably be advised to keep clear of protests, unless they
    are taking part in one, otherwise, I can't see them having a problem.


    Many years ago, disabled activists threw themselves out of their
    wheelchairs on the steps of the US Congress to make a point. Presumably
    here they would be locked up ?

    I wonder how our courts would cope. Accessibility being someone elses
    problem in the UK in 2023.

    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From Algernon Goss-Custard@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 27 20:45:44 2023
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> posted >https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-parliament-people-chris- >philp-suella-braverman-b2328376.html

    Would this mean there are effectively places that someone who uses a
    walking aid - or who simply cannot walk "normally" are effectively banned >from ?

    No. Any such law would certainly have exceptions for the genuinely
    disabled, as you know.


    Many years ago, disabled activists threw themselves out of their
    wheelchairs on the steps of the US Congress to make a point. Presumably
    here they would be locked up ?

    Presumably not.


    I wonder how our courts would cope. Accessibility being someone elses
    problem in the UK in 2023.

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    Algernon

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  • From billy bookcase@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Thu Apr 27 20:18:34 2023
    "Jethro_uk" <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote in message news:u2efkb$3s7qk$2@dont-email.me...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-parliament-people-chris- philp-suella-braverman-b2328376.html


    Well at least the fat coppers will have more of a chance of catching them.

    Unlike say with "rat boys"


    bb

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 28 10:28:57 2023
    On 27/04/2023 07:41 pm, Jethro_uk wrote:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-parliament-people-chris- philp-suella-braverman-b2328376.html

    Would this mean there are effectively places that someone who uses a
    walking aid - or who simply cannot walk "normally" are effectively banned from ?

    Yes. As now.

    The carriageway of a motorway would be a good example. The carriageway
    of a radial main road leading into and out of a city would be another.
    Even "destination-only" city-centre street carriageways would be yet
    another. Footways are provided for pedestrians. Use them or lose them to fairy-cyclists.

    Many years ago, disabled activists threw themselves out of their
    wheelchairs on the steps of the US Congress to make a point. Presumably
    here they would be locked up ?

    Were they walking slowly in order to deliberately hold up motor traffic
    from making progress up and down the steps of the US Congress?

    I wonder how our courts would cope. Accessibility being someone elses
    problem in the UK in 2023.

    That is what is known as a red herring.

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Fri Apr 28 08:45:43 2023
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-parliament-people-chris- philp-suella-braverman-b2328376.html

    Would this mean there are effectively places that someone who uses a
    walking aid - or who simply cannot walk "normally" are effectively banned from ?

    Many years ago, disabled activists threw themselves out of their
    wheelchairs on the steps of the US Congress to make a point. Presumably
    here they would be locked up ?

    I wonder how our courts would cope. Accessibility being someone elses
    problem in the UK in 2023.


    I certainly wouldn’t want to see a law which banned those with disabilities
    - with aids or otherwise- from certain areas etc or going about their
    normal lives. Nor do I see any suggestion that is the intention.

    I can’t believe it is impossible to frame any new law to avoid such
    problems.

    That said, I don’t expect anything to come of this announcement. We’ve had countless ‘promises’ / ‘commitments’ from the faux conservatives. Not one
    has been honoured.

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  • From Andy Leighton@21:1/5 to Algernon Goss-Custard on Fri Apr 28 10:26:44 2023
    On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 20:45:44 +0100, Algernon Goss-Custard <Ben@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> posted
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-parliament-people-chris- >>philp-suella-braverman-b2328376.html

    Would this mean there are effectively places that someone who uses a >>walking aid - or who simply cannot walk "normally" are effectively banned >>from ?

    No. Any such law would certainly have exceptions for the genuinely
    disabled, as you know.

    So any demo should just have a couple of ranks of elderly / disabled
    people / toddlers who can't walk very fast at the front.

    "But it would be rude and dangerous to force my way through officer"!

    --
    Andy Leighton => andyl@azaal.plus.com
    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
    - Douglas Adams

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