• Re: Are Americans poorer than they used to be (was Re: Electric cars)

    From Roland Perry@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 25 15:46:13 2024
    In message <k4a4piFf72sU2@mid.individual.net>, at 16:45:38 on Sun, 5 Feb
    2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
    On 05/02/2023 08:41 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k47iqvF383eU2@mid.individual.net>, at 17:26:55 on Sat, 4
    Feb 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
    On 04/02/2023 03:44 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k45q20Fpd07U3@mid.individual.net>, at 01:17:52 on Sat,
    4 Feb  2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
    On 01/02/2023 05:31 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3sfhlFbsh8U3@mid.individual.net>, at 12:23:17 on
    Tue, 31  Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
    On 31/01/2023 09:58 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3q084F6biU2@mid.individual.net>, at 13:49:57 on >>>>>>>>Mon, 30  Jan  2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked: >>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2023 10:33 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3igfaFpv68U8@mid.individual.net>, at 17:37:47 on >>>>>>>>>>Fri,  27  Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked: >>>>>>>>>>> On 27/01/2023 05:06 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3fr4mFdk1lU2@mid.individual.net>, at 17:21:26 >>>>>>>>>>>>on Thu,  26  Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/01/2023 11:05 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3cm2jFglvcU1@mid.individual.net>, at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:36:36 on  Wed,  25  Jan 2023, JNugent >>>>>>>>>>>>>><jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
    On 25/01/2023 07:37 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3agpbF6imaU2@mid.individual.net>, at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>16:54:04  on  Tue,  24  Jan 2023, JNugent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><jenningsandco@mail.com>  remarked:

    Almost next door by American distances. Rust Belt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to  California  is  similar to moving from London >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Only in distance.

    I suspect in culture too.

    I have friends at either end of the United States. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And north  to  south  too. There are indeed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>differences in culture  between the  extremes (and  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>difference  in culture between England  and Turkey! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For a start, you don't have to ask permission to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     That is political rather than cultural.

    In the USA, you just climb into the car in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pennsylvania and  drive  to  California. All you need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to do en route is  find a  few  motels  and to  fill up (man and machine).

    No-one will ask you for your papers.

    Try that on a road trip from Anatolia to Hertfordshire. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
     That's policing, dictated by politics, not cultural. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's one large cultural difference for a start. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Which is???

    I've just mentioned the thing you cited!

     Why the riddle, just say it again.

    Being asked for your papers! Maybe having to carry a >>>>>>>>>>>translation  of  your licence and insurance. Having customs >>>>>>>>>>>inspection of  what's in  the  "trunk" at state borders.

     That's still policing.

     Which has absolutely nothing to do with things like the >>>>>>>>>>cultural  differences between living in New York and the deep south. >>>>>>>>>
    I've had lengthy stays in both (and in Texas, New Mexico, >>>>>>>>>Kansas,  Missouri and California).

    They're not all that different.

     Culturally they are completely different. Unless you >>>>>>>>discovered a  KKK  clan operating in NYC.

    More different than a village in Hertfordshire and one outside >>>>>>>Ankara?

     Don't know about Ankara (it may be fairly westernised being a >>>>>>large  Capital city) but I almost went to a conference in Antalya >>>>>>(Anatolian  coastline), which is a popular holiday resort.

    ...and?

     That response of yours doesn't seem to add much...

    ...except to draw attention to the lack of meaningful content in the >>>immediately preceding response.
    Drawing attention to your perception of that.

    Are you still insisting that there are no cultural differences
    between Turkish people in Turkey and British people in the United >>>Kingdom?

    That would be absurd. Of course there are cultural differences, just
    not as significant as you claim.

    How "significant" have I said they are?

    They are what they are, irrespective of how "significant" they are.

    Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been
    begging for it for moths if not years).
    --
    Roland Perry

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  • From billy bookcase@21:1/5 to Roland Perry on Thu Jan 25 21:31:44 2024
    "Roland Perry" <roland@perry.uk> wrote in message news:Z7XmGUAFJoslFAes@perry.uk...

    Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been begging for it for
    moths if not years).

    Good call !

    quote:

    A 2008 study found that 35 species of moths were just as
    attracted to traps baited with wine as with beer.

    :unquote

    https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/animals/do-animals-get-drunk



    bb

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Roland Perry on Thu Jan 25 23:30:14 2024
    On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k4a4piFf72sU2@mid.individual.net>, at 16:45:38 on Sun, 5 Feb 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
    On 05/02/2023 08:41 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k47iqvF383eU2@mid.individual.net>, at 17:26:55 on Sat, 4
    Feb  2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
    On 04/02/2023 03:44 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k45q20Fpd07U3@mid.individual.net>, at 01:17:52 on Sat,
    4  Feb  2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
    On 01/02/2023 05:31 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3sfhlFbsh8U3@mid.individual.net>, at 12:23:17 on
    Tue,  31  Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked: >>>>>>>> On 31/01/2023 09:58 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3q084F6biU2@mid.individual.net>, at 13:49:57 on >>>>>>>>> Mon,  30  Jan  2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked: >>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2023 10:33 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3igfaFpv68U8@mid.individual.net>, at 17:37:47 on >>>>>>>>>>> Fri,  27  Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/01/2023 05:06 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3fr4mFdk1lU2@mid.individual.net>, at 17:21:26 >>>>>>>>>>>>> on  Thu,  26  Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> remarked:
    On 26/01/2023 11:05 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3cm2jFglvcU1@mid.individual.net>, at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:36:36  on  Wed,  25  Jan 2023, JNugent
    <jenningsandco@mail.com>  remarked:
    On 25/01/2023 07:37 am, Roland Perry wrote:
    In message <k3agpbF6imaU2@mid.individual.net>, at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16:54:04  on  Tue,  24  Jan 2023, JNugent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jenningsandco@mail.com>  remarked:

    Almost next door by American distances. Rust Belt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to  California  is  similar to moving from London >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only in distance.

    I suspect in culture too.

    I have friends at either end of the United States. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And  north  to  south  too. There are indeed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences in  culture  between the  extremes (and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference  in culture  between England  and Turkey! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For a start, you don't have to ask permission to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
     That is political rather than cultural. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    In the USA, you just climb into the car in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania  and  drive  to  California. All you need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do en route  is  find a  few  motels  and to  fill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up (man and machine).

    No-one will ask you for your papers.

    Try that on a road trip from Anatolia to Hertfordshire. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
     That's policing, dictated by politics, not cultural. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's one large cultural difference for a start. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Which is???

    I've just mentioned the thing you cited!

     Why the riddle, just say it again.

    Being asked for your papers! Maybe having to carry a
    translation  of  your licence and insurance. Having customs >>>>>>>>>>>> inspection of  what's in  the  "trunk" at state borders. >>>>>>>>>
     That's still policing.

     Which has absolutely nothing to do with things like the >>>>>>>>>>> cultural  differences between living in New York and the deep >>>>>>>>>>> south.

    I've had lengthy stays in both (and in Texas, New Mexico,
    Kansas,  Missouri and California).

    They're not all that different.

     Culturally they are completely different. Unless you
    discovered  a  KKK  clan operating in NYC.

    More different than a village in Hertfordshire and one outside >>>>>>>> Ankara?

     Don't know about Ankara (it may be fairly westernised being a
    large  Capital city) but I almost went to a conference in Antalya >>>>>>> (Anatolian  coastline), which is a popular holiday resort.

    ...and?

     That response of yours doesn't seem to add much...

    ...except to draw attention to the lack of meaningful content in the
    immediately preceding response.
     Drawing attention to your perception of that.

    Are you still insisting that there are no cultural differences
    between  Turkish people in Turkey and British people in the United
    Kingdom?

     That would be absurd. Of course there are cultural differences, just
    not  as significant as you claim.

    How "significant" have I said they are?
    They are what they are, irrespective of how "significant" they are.

    Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been
    begging for it for moths if not years).

    Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.

    Is it one of your passions?

    PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!

    Why so long in responding? :-)

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  • From kat@21:1/5 to JNugent on Fri Jan 26 10:21:24 2024
    On 25/01/2024 23:30, JNugent wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:


    Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been begging >> for it for moths if not years).

    Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.

    Is it one of your passions?

    PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!

    Why so long in responding? :-)



    It certainly was an old moth-eaten post.
    --
    kat
    >^..^<

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to kat on Fri Jan 26 11:40:12 2024
    On 26/01/2024 10:21 am, kat wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 23:30, JNugent wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:


    Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been
    begging for it for moths if not years).

    Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.

    Is it one of your passions?

    PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!

    Why so long in responding? :-)



    It certainly was an old moth-eaten post.

    I expect there was a certain amount of trawling and mining which
    preceded the response of yesterday's date.

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  • From Roland Perry@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 27 14:50:59 2024
    In message <l1hk0sFhbctU1@mid.individual.net>, at 11:40:12 on Fri, 26
    Jan 2024, JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> remarked:
    On 26/01/2024 10:21 am, kat wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 23:30, JNugent wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:

    Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've
    been begging for it for moths if not years).

    Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.

    Is it one of your passions?

    PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!

    Why so long in responding? :-)


    It certainly was an old moth-eaten post.

    I expect there was a certain amount of trawling and mining which
    preceded the response of yesterday's date.

    Nothing so exciting. Just my oldest unread/unflushed posting in ulm
    (there's 3600 in total) which got invoked by some finger trouble.
    --
    Roland Perry

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Roland Perry on Sat Jan 27 22:25:37 2024
    On 27/01/2024 02:50 pm, Roland Perry wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> remarked:
    On 26/01/2024 10:21 am, kat wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 23:30, JNugent wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:

    Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've
    been  begging for it for moths if not years).

    Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.
    Is it one of your passions?

    PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!
    Why so long in responding? :-)

     It certainly was an old moth-eaten post.

    I expect there was a certain amount of trawling and mining which
    preceded the response of yesterday's date.

    Nothing so exciting. Just my oldest unread/unflushed posting in ulm
    (there's 3600 in total) which got invoked by some finger trouble.

    Good to hear.

    Many thanks.

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